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more than one server?
Malamenz
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Well since this has popped up in the UL forums, and NightHawk and I jacked Madrakes "funny"
thread with not so funny posts (although i probably shoud have just left the comment about Zephyr's hair), i'd figure its time to start a new thread about the possibility of having more than one server.
As I understand it, which means i'm probbably wrong, the idea of having more than one server was to have one with dreamstrike available, and one with no dreamstrike at all. Also, if the player base grows too big for one of the servers, they would introduce a new one. Right now i'm too lazy to go digging through Stratics forums to find the Rec Tuesday Discussion where this was brought up (hint hint Lyra Confirmation).
Personally, I like the idea because the thought of seeing how The City evolved over a set period of time. It would be like each server is an alternate reality. And yes, I do hope if this is the case, one's character wouldn't be able hop from server to server. If Lyra is willing to spend the time and resources of keeping the servers seperate (i.e. a new plane or art discovered on one, but not on the other, which Lyra could initiate a proper RP to introduce the new art to the other server after its been implimented on the first), then i really don't see the problem. Seperate forums for each server, one generic all around one should, SHOULD solve most of the concerns.
All in all, who can say aside from Lyra (HINT HINT) what the plans actually are. I dunno, but lets hear the thoughts about this.
....and life goes on
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Lyra shoudl probebly read all the post in the past 3 months and comment on them!! we need feedback too!
Anyways, i love the ideas of more than one server, but i do disagree on one thing, Character transfer from one server to another, i agree it shouldn't be possible but not impossible.
What if a role play that goes on for many months and get people involved and then lets say a character finds a way to the next reality!!! Woudln't that be like sweet?
I am just saying if there is possibilities out there we shoudln't shut the door and lock it until everythign has been looked into.
"Anyways, i love the ideas of more than one server, but i do disagree on one thing, Character transfer from one server to another, i agree it shouldn't be possible but not impossible.
What if a role play that goes on for many months and get people involved and then lets say a character finds a way to the next reality!!! Woudln't that be like sweet?
I am just saying if there is possibilities out there we shoudln't shut the door and lock it until everythign has been looked into."
I was going to suggest that on the other post but I decided to think it through a little more before I said anything. I agree though, as the game expands they might add more servers and maybe dreamers (though a rigorous RP or meeting certain stats or paying a fee or whatever) would be able to discover a new branch of reality (another server) and they would be able to move there or even back and forth between the two.
"Lyra shoudl probebly read all the post in the past 3 months and comment on them!! we need feedback too!"
Yeah, seriously. How bout it Lyra? I know you guys read these but how about some posts too?
They're probably pretty busy setting up Reclamation and maintaining Underlight but still, throw us a frickin bone here. <-worst Dr. Evil impression ever
Seriously though, I'd love to see what Lyra thinks about all of the things that have been said so far, I know you're all very busy but it would be nice to see what all of you at Lyra Studios think.
-Night
Since you put that way NightHawk, that would be seriously sweet to find yourself in an alternate reality, hopefully it would be just a massive RP like a 7th or 8th sphere task with much work.
And please Lyra, I'll wil grovel and beg for some feed back to our ideas. I do realize Daggar gots his thing finishing up, and Stone & Glee are prepping the Beta Fairy for its next release into the wild, just asking for some lovin.
....and life goes on
you know when you watch cartoons when someone got a brilliant idea a lightbulb appears on top of his head?
Well i just had 10 of them popping so i will share with you one i got while reading this!!
Malamenz you said a massive RP for 7th or 8th sphere, What if they were releasing a new server at the time and they need you the player with experience to guide the new server but you need to do a role play again to find this alternate state...
In other words you enter this new server ( dream city ) and you are the elders!
Of course being able to transfer server you wouldn't be able to come back just yet, lets say each vortex people find has a limite of 2 to 3 months so if you enter a new plain of existence hence a new dream city with your 7th sphere, and that you are lets say HC in your older dream, then you could become the next house elder of HC in t his new dream and help form it up with the dreamers there?
This would help keep the lyra staff at a low ## and players that really loves the game could pitch in and have fun anyways. Remember this is not EQ This is a real role playing game, and ify ou get a chance to be a dungeon master and you have the experience in a previous dream then why not?
This could become a trend esach time they release a new server maybe have a bunch of dreamers maybe 4 to go to the next level and enter this new dream being a guide and an elder :-)
Ok Lyra you really need to comment on this!!! hehe
also what you all think?
first, just realized i never read this reply which is why its slightly belated.....
second, love the idea, espicially not being able to go back to the old server or "alternate dream" for a few months.
but another idea, don't know how it would work if one was a house elder, but how being able to set up a small group, maybe three, four, or five, who's RP (assuming there's more than two servers) is every couple of months is to move on to another reality, when they come back five, six months later to a server, people gather around to here the different stories or to see if a new art has been learned, etc..
and third..... I know you're out there Stone, trolling...... any chance of having a Lyran sighting on these boards?!?!?!?!?!?! Maybe even a little hey thats a good idea, that idea won't work, you all been accepted into the beta test, we'll see if we can work that suggestion in, or your undestanding of concept isn't quite right here's how its suppose to work?
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Or how about a "HEY GUYS! GUESS WHAT!? Lyra just won 500 BILLION DOLLARS! SERIOUSLY! And we're giving all of our faithful players 1 billion dollars and a job working for Lyra Studios! Also, you're all in beta and we just bought Microsoft."
Really? Thanks Lyra!
Really though, where are you guys?
I would imagine that they are busy actually making the game as well as any other employment, real life sort of things. According to the guidelines of many a game designer, having a forum is great, as long as you don't spend too much time on it. Spending time nattering on a board takes away from the time you could have been working on your game. As a writer, I know alllllll about that, I spend more time NOT writing than I do actually finishing my work. Sometimes the internet is a really nasty little temptation.
So, best thing to do is keep nattering among ourselves, they'll check in now and again and let us know what's what when they've got the time to breathe.
I'm necro-posting because a new, yet slightly small idea just hit me and seemed appropiate for some of things discussed previously in this thread.....
Touching back on the idea of having a small group travel from "alternate reality" to "alternate reality". damnit I like my idea of a small group traveling to other "realities" to introduce arts or help discover new planes found in other cities, but this new take the "alternate realities" came from a conversation I had when I first met Taroneh (IMHO the best roleplayer in UL). Tzayak and crew had just taken over the Keeper's, probably two maybe three weeks into that RP when her and I discussed this.
We got on the idea that maybe the city is lost to the DarkMares and it was time to move on ....... to ANOTHER city. Instead of alternate realities, what if each server is another city in the chaos. It would make the Traveling Group idea more pheasable, but your normal dreamer still couldn't hop from server to server. It can be explained that the original city was destroyed or over-run by the DarkMares and the dreamers managed to build other cities before what ever this New Great Loss happened, simultaneous in each of the new cities. AND!!!! which ever the bad mofo Darkmare is (assuming its still controlled by Lyra Hawk) could very conceivably pop into each city by traversing the chaos between them. But each city will still grow in its own unique way, and if there is a DreamStrike server (I really do hope there is one), the Traveling Group can explain to the other cities exactly why they won't teach this art.
alright, I'm going to bed now.
....and life goes on
Seperate servers being seperate Cities, or something like that. In UL, there was the Overlight, Nirvana, and Arret, and one other that I remember hearing about. Though some of them have belief affiliations, being able to move to another City, like Arret, would be cool. Not just a jump because a character has advanced so much, but a thought out RP around it that would have to involve others.
I don't like the thought of spreading all the players out in different servers, I'd prefer to see everyone interacting with each other on one.
From my understanding, I thought nirvana was a seperate plane of existence of eternal bliss. Which I always thought was amusing when Munchkin supposedly went there but came back. I cracked up imagining a return speech, "Eh, bliss was fun, but it got boring." I thought it was like being raptured into heaven. Though, chances are she probably didn't really say she was going there or something. It's entirely possible that by the time the news reached The Striker's ears it had be so mangled that that's what it was.
The Striker, that's one name I shall always regret. The work of an adolescent mind is not always great. At the very least I know how to come up with original names now. At the time my little brain was thinking "oh that's sounds so cool and mysterious" and then I was stuck with it.
Oye!
Because only someone as deranged as me would have a rubber chicken Named Alfredo Sanchez
Nirvana is supposed to be like heaven I guess, though there have been char's that have said they went and couldn't stay, and char's that were brought back from Nirvana like the seneschals in GoE. But if it were a City/community, it could be purely pacifist.
Then again, maybe each house is a small City
I think all the servers as seperate cities wouldn't work out the best. One thing that strikes my mind is, if Underlight was ultimately destroyed and multiple more cities were created, why do they all look *exactly the same*? I believe that no names should be able to be duped from one server to another (as in character Bob on ServerX and ServerY) in the case that a server has stagnated and needed to be merged in with another server, characters could be transferred to another server in some big roleplay without naming conflicts. House structuring conflicts would be another story, heh.
About spreading folks out among many servers as Seli suggested. I agree in the 'more the merrier' thought, but Lyra seems to have thought this out pretty intelligently. In browsing their FAQ, they state a goal of like 2-3 thousand dreamers per server, with an approximate average of like 600 dreaming at any given time. That's *plenty* of dreamers to complete a city without making things overpopulated, and still have things small enough to know your fellow house mates! A cap at that amount sounds perfect, and spreading overflow into other servers sounds intelligent.
P.S. Damn, when I first posted this long reply, got freaking 'erased' automatically again. Gotta hate that! I had a lot more ideas to post, but forgot them...maybe they'll come back.
I have lost way to many posts to this confound board. IN the end I found a way to take the text I wrote and highlight EVERYTHING and hit "crtl+c" and copy it to my clip board. This simple habit of paranoia has saved me numerous problems from posts.
It would do you all well to learn this practice and make it your own.
Because only someone as deranged as me would have a rubber chicken Named Alfredo Sanchez
Yep that's exactly what I've been doing, Ctrl+C
Ofcourse the one time I forgot to do it...
The idea of character transfer for role playing purposes is simply assinine.
Believing that another server is an opportunity to facilitate a character belief in another reality meets with the same comments as above.
Other servers are other cities of Underlight for other communities.
Arret was a place in Cloudsbreak, not another reality.
Overlight was heaven, you went there when you died.
Nirvana was a particular Dogma's definition of their place of rest, their heaven if you will.
While it may be interesting to think of crossing levels of reality, as stated above that is not what servers represent.
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
Lascivious pretty much hit the nail on the head. I do not believe I need to further elaborate on that topic.
Once you try to do IC crossovers on servers things get icky.
Because only someone as deranged as me would have a rubber chicken Named Alfredo Sanchez
I wouldn't say assinine, it was only a suggestion for actually making the servers something more than just servers. Server A is for community A, server B is for community B just like every single other MMO out there. But now, who knows if we'll ever get an answer to the possibilities.
....and life goes on
Sometimes a pipe is just a pipe and perfectly suited for that purpose alone.
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.