Originally posted by Bruise187 Not buying it for the simple reason of having to be online to even play the game. Wish I wouldnt have bought SC2
What do you mean? I thought this was an offline game with online multiplayer option (if you so wished to join that?) Would suck if its mainly a single player game were one could have co-op play but you still could only play it whilst being online, what if i was not online or my net was down or i cancelled my ISP services? that would mean i would not be able to play this.
D3 has no offline play, online only to combat pirating.
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Sure Blizzard may ship it with no offline mode, I give it at most 1 month before someone like Skidrow/Reloaded/Razor1911 have cracked/engineered a work-around. Depending on popularity maybe a few more months after said crack for a Hamachi port to appear for lan play.
The sad part is if it were offline/lan-able out of the box, with no RMT AH they would most likely have a couple hundred thousand more sales instead of people waiting for above pirates.
If more people stood up to BliZ and sent them their opinion in the US or even approached the legislators about this issue they would most likely have removed it in the US as well unless the government found a way to tax it.
Sure Blizzard may ship it with no offline mode, I give it at most 1 month before someone like Skidrow/Reloaded/Razor1911 have cracked/engineered a work-around. Depending on popularity maybe a few more months after said crack for a Hamachi port to appear for lan play.
The sad part is if it were offline/lan-able out of the box, with no RMT AH they would most likely have a couple hundred thousand more sales instead of people waiting for above pirates.
This is both sad and true lol.
Blizzards new approach to online Piracy is to force people to do it XD.
This will likely go the way of Real ID, large ammount of protesting and etc. but the problem is this will likely be a little to late to stop it. Blizzard will be the one to lose in this though, not the players because yes... some are already getting prepped to give people offline mode.
If more people stood up to BliZ and sent them their opinion in the US or even approached the legislators about this issue they would most likely have removed it in the US as well unless the government found a way to tax it.
Yeah, thats going to make things SO much "better"... Haven't we had MUCH more than enough problems due to people howling "Government should DO something about that!!"?... If you don't like the way a game is set up, then by all means don't play it. But advocating getting government involved, is very much how matters have reached their current dire state.
Originally posted by Leviathonlx There are actually conflicting reports about what was removed. Blizzard says the RMT is still in but there just isn't a way to cash out.
This was their original intention. They never intended for you to make real cash off the game.
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hate the idea of rmt. Only diablo i played was the first one and not getting the 3rd cause i can't support the always online idea. Played the 1st one as a singleplayer rpg and enjoyed it and would like to play the 3rd the same way instead of having this anti piracy forced down my throat.
Not buying it for the simple reason of having to be online to even play the game. Wish I wouldnt have bought SC2
alot of people say that but with as long as you dont still use dial up and who these days would even think of it more then likely your online all the time anyway
This whole bots thing is a null argument, the requirement to always being online when playing D3 will almost (I did say almost) rules out any kind of effective botting - the reason being the online requirement is not there for pure DRM reasons, D3's game content other than art/sound is not stored on the client it's streamed to the player from the D3 servers;
mobs spawns
Special/random events/Items
Loot drops
Dungeon layouts
Player saved/banks/items
Due to this it will be very hard to create a bot to farm anything but normal difficulty very slowly.
Botting worked well in D1/D2 because it was all stored on the client and there isn't any real kind of anti-bottong system in place, where by D3 I am sure will use a WoW's wardens system.
As to the RMTAH - its only a problem cus Blizzard have have introduced it, if it was announced for swtor or gw2 people would be screaming "what a great idea". - Bottom line don't use it.
i feel like im the only one in the world who wants this Real Money AH, This is the greatest idea ever, all i can think about is how im going to play this game with my friends and sell random items to stupid people with to much money and make bank
Gotta love all this pennyless players that somehow feel offended by the fact casual/working people will be able to progress faster instead of being stuck for months in the crappy tiers.
I will not be using the shop simply because i do not want to spend even more money in e-entertainement, but i am perfectly fine with that busy mom or working father getting items and stuff with their hard earned money.
And you know, if you do not like the idea, you can simply....not play it?
Oh well people called me crazy back then, when mentioning they will have to remove it to make it work in some countries. Korea is the first many will follow and its good.
Even if they remove it I'm just not interested in this game way too dumbed down and lacks some serious features.
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play." "Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
Originally posted by DerWotan Oh well people called me crazy back then, when mentioning they will have to remove it to make it work in some countries. Korea is the first many will follow and its good. Even if they remove it I'm just not interested in this game way too dumbed down and lacks some serious features.
I was saying the same thing. Nay-sayers were saying countries couldn't limit what's in a game other then it's rating.
Finally the nay-sayers got a knuckle sandwhich.
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So what i get from this is that it is better to have a black market driven by hacking/duping and theft completley out of any ones controll then a legit source were Blizzard can monitor and support the user when something goes wrong? Because paying with real cash for tiems happen in the earlier Diablo games... No point in pretending like it did not. So it is not like this is a new invention.
But by all means, support the idea och black market trading and free for all scamming... It is a great motivation to protect... well i am not sure what you are trying to protect.
Why are people crying so much about this feature ...so what someone who has more money to spend than you will get better items faster?? OMG the end of the world... thats life people
just play normaly and equip yourself(way more fun)
after the start boom items will get so cheap it won't be worthwile spending your time farming
i would be surprised to find out that anyone older than 15 years would be bothered by this
I'm all for RMT in D3. It'll happen on other sites anyway whether or not it's implemented into the game, just like it did with Diablo 2. At least this way everyone knows its secure and you will definately get what you paid for without any concerns (I have never bought anything this way myself for an online game).
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
Actually the RMT auction house is the only reason I will buy it. If they opt out for the American version as well, I wont be playing this game. But i seriously doubt Blizzard will want to lose that revenue stream. They lose way too much money for items being sold on "black market websites", and for everyone that doesnt want to use RMT the game will not change for you in the slightest bit. Just keep on playing your way, and ignore that feature. Its a win/win for Blizzard, since those other websites would still exist regardless of any auction house feature they implement. This just keeps it in house, safer for the player, and discourages scams and farmers. Thanks Blizzard, keep up the good work.
really? Are you serious? Do you honestly think that having RMT will discourage farmers, bots and the like?
Lol indeed, it doesn't stop any of that behaviour it's a form of legislation so that Blizzard can get a cut of the spoils.
I am with the people who hate the idea of the RMT auction house and will not buy the game unless a version or server or something is released that is RMT free. As i will not participate in the P2Win activities brought about, encouraged and applauded by RMT auction housing, i stand absolutely zero chance of competeing on any level with the players who have unlimited disposable income to buy their min/max ultra build toons. Sure you can't in any way ever stop hax and sploits and spam and black market back alley illegal sites selling gold and items and accounts etc. However, the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" attitude both frightens and angers me. They say change is inevitable. So it was only a matter of time before blizzard became but another name on the list of companies like squaresoft and bungie (can YOU name others?) that simply aren't what they once were in regards to equating their company with quality products that aren't all about milking franchises and viewing gamers as checking accounts.
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Haha, I came into this thread to post the same thing.
D3 has no offline play, online only to combat pirating.
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Sure Blizzard may ship it with no offline mode, I give it at most 1 month before someone like Skidrow/Reloaded/Razor1911 have cracked/engineered a work-around. Depending on popularity maybe a few more months after said crack for a Hamachi port to appear for lan play.
The sad part is if it were offline/lan-able out of the box, with no RMT AH they would most likely have a couple hundred thousand more sales instead of people waiting for above pirates.
If more people stood up to BliZ and sent them their opinion in the US or even approached the legislators about this issue they would most likely have removed it in the US as well unless the government found a way to tax it.
This is both sad and true lol.
Blizzards new approach to online Piracy is to force people to do it XD.
This will likely go the way of Real ID, large ammount of protesting and etc. but the problem is this will likely be a little to late to stop it. Blizzard will be the one to lose in this though, not the players because yes... some are already getting prepped to give people offline mode.
Yeah, thats going to make things SO much "better"... Haven't we had MUCH more than enough problems due to people howling "Government should DO something about that!!"?... If you don't like the way a game is set up, then by all means don't play it. But advocating getting government involved, is very much how matters have reached their current dire state.
There are actually conflicting reports about what was removed. Blizzard says the RMT is still in but there just isn't a way to cash out.
This was their original intention. They never intended for you to make real cash off the game.
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I,m not buying it because of the RMT. You success in a game should never be based on how much real life money you can spend.
hate the idea of rmt. Only diablo i played was the first one and not getting the 3rd cause i can't support the always online idea. Played the 1st one as a singleplayer rpg and enjoyed it and would like to play the 3rd the same way instead of having this anti piracy forced down my throat.
alot of people say that but with as long as you dont still use dial up and who these days would even think of it more then likely your online all the time anyway
my wife's korean, so i think that's what i'll be doing!
come on blizz why ruin a game before you even release it Please remove RMT from the english version or make plenty of korean servers thats all we ask
This whole bots thing is a null argument, the requirement to always being online when playing D3 will almost (I did say almost) rules out any kind of effective botting - the reason being the online requirement is not there for pure DRM reasons, D3's game content other than art/sound is not stored on the client it's streamed to the player from the D3 servers;
mobs spawns
Special/random events/Items
Loot drops
Dungeon layouts
Player saved/banks/items
Due to this it will be very hard to create a bot to farm anything but normal difficulty very slowly.
Botting worked well in D1/D2 because it was all stored on the client and there isn't any real kind of anti-bottong system in place, where by D3 I am sure will use a WoW's wardens system.
As to the RMTAH - its only a problem cus Blizzard have have introduced it, if it was announced for swtor or gw2 people would be screaming "what a great idea". - Bottom line don't use it.
i feel like im the only one in the world who wants this Real Money AH, This is the greatest idea ever, all i can think about is how im going to play this game with my friends and sell random items to stupid people with to much money and make bank
Gotta love all this pennyless players that somehow feel offended by the fact casual/working people will be able to progress faster instead of being stuck for months in the crappy tiers.
I will not be using the shop simply because i do not want to spend even more money in e-entertainement, but i am perfectly fine with that busy mom or working father getting items and stuff with their hard earned money.
And you know, if you do not like the idea, you can simply....not play it?
Rawr.
Oh well people called me crazy back then, when mentioning they will have to remove it to make it work in some countries. Korea is the first many will follow and its good.
Even if they remove it I'm just not interested in this game way too dumbed down and lacks some serious features.
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play."
"Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
I was saying the same thing. Nay-sayers were saying countries couldn't limit what's in a game other then it's rating.
Finally the nay-sayers got a knuckle sandwhich.
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''RMT guarantees I won't buy it, remove it and I might buy it.''
THis, f*ck RMT, damn I was looking forward to this game(
if they don't remove the RMT I'm not buying the game...
"Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life."
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So what i get from this is that it is better to have a black market driven by hacking/duping and theft completley out of any ones controll then a legit source were Blizzard can monitor and support the user when something goes wrong? Because paying with real cash for tiems happen in the earlier Diablo games... No point in pretending like it did not. So it is not like this is a new invention.
But by all means, support the idea och black market trading and free for all scamming... It is a great motivation to protect... well i am not sure what you are trying to protect.
This have been a good conversation
Why are people crying so much about this feature ...so what someone who has more money to spend than you will get better items faster?? OMG the end of the world... thats life people
just play normaly and equip yourself(way more fun)
after the start boom items will get so cheap it won't be worthwile spending your time farming
i would be surprised to find out that anyone older than 15 years would be bothered by this
I'm all for RMT in D3. It'll happen on other sites anyway whether or not it's implemented into the game, just like it did with Diablo 2. At least this way everyone knows its secure and you will definately get what you paid for without any concerns (I have never bought anything this way myself for an online game).
Lol indeed, it doesn't stop any of that behaviour it's a form of legislation so that Blizzard can get a cut of the spoils.
This looks like a job for....The Riviera Kid!
I am with the people who hate the idea of the RMT auction house and will not buy the game unless a version or server or something is released that is RMT free. As i will not participate in the P2Win activities brought about, encouraged and applauded by RMT auction housing, i stand absolutely zero chance of competeing on any level with the players who have unlimited disposable income to buy their min/max ultra build toons. Sure you can't in any way ever stop hax and sploits and spam and black market back alley illegal sites selling gold and items and accounts etc. However, the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" attitude both frightens and angers me. They say change is inevitable. So it was only a matter of time before blizzard became but another name on the list of companies like squaresoft and bungie (can YOU name others?) that simply aren't what they once were in regards to equating their company with quality products that aren't all about milking franchises and viewing gamers as checking accounts.