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Did WOW Destroy MMORPG's?
Ezen_Surreal
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Sometimes its good to think deep. Some times it good just to play games.
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Not Blizzard's fault that sandbox devs can't get their job done. That's like "Did copying kill music?"
SO true!
But, when every thing starts to sound the same. We need a experienced musician with creativity to come in and save the day!
http://youtu.be/XsCRyO78d_o
Sometimes its good to think deep. Some times it good just to play games.
This stupid question was already asked hundreds of times.
/thread closed
Investors kill MMORPGS
No.
Stupid threads like this: maybe
>.<
Wow is like country music! And every game is creating country music. Give me some heavy metal or some good rap.
http://youtu.be/isumZjs3dKA
Sometimes its good to think deep. Some times it good just to play games.
WoW has somewhat made it harder for me to enjoy other MMOs. No one has come close to match the fluid combat and performance WoW has, and the polish it has built up over all these years are hard to match.
And lastly, one has become very spoiled by addons, it's quite disappointing when you can't even move anything around in SW:Tor, when you can make things looks exactly as you want to in WoW.
Ultima Online has made it hard for me to enjoy other MMO's. UO's fear vs reward was just plain fun. It was the best MMO ever made before tram! Sandbox devs and investers where are you at? I'm tired of listening to country music!
Remember all the hiar bands of the 80's and early 90's , then came Nirvana and killed the spandex but rock.
This is what has happened to MMO's. I see them as hiar bands and somthing needs to come along and change things up.
http://youtu.be/VRBrGe1R69U
Sometimes its good to think deep. Some times it good just to play games.
The 1st generation MMO gamers might not like that dominating voice of the influx mainstream public that 'invaded' their genre with the rise of WoW, just like fans of other MMO design models than the themepark style that WoW advocates might not like it. But the situation is what it is. There's hope though for people who dislike WoW's popular design: the next couple of years seem to offer a wide range of different MMO's that don't adhere to WoW's direction.no, it made them better and more fun than they have ever been
wow saved the MMO genre, without wow mmos would be like adventure games are right now, forgoten and ignored outside of a very niche commnity since every other genre moved forward
I would have to say that WoW is as responsible for killing mmorpgs as McDonald's is for making people fat.
(a) People have to choose to play, no one forces them
(b) If 4 million North Americans, and 6 million Asians want to play WoW, then why not? They have a McDonald's in almost every country too.
However, that being said, unique restaurants pop up all the time. They serve really good food and have a much nicer community than the young teenager who is exausted and focused on a boyfriend break up...while working the McDonald's drive through.
In the case of the mmorpg industry, everything is fast food now, everyone tries to be McDonald's, i.e., everyone wants a piece of WoW's apple pie. There hasn't been ONE unique, immersive in depth mmorpg released since 2004 (other than Shadowbane or Vanguard, but one is on life support and the other is offline).
Today's checklist for mmorpg fabrication:
1. Does the game have 0-2 factions?
2. Does the game have instanced pvp?
3. Does the game have mirrored classes?
4. Have we made sure that no matter how bad or good someone's guild is at pvp, that it will never reflect on your/their entire faction?
If you said yes to the above, then your product is ready for shipment/digital download.
It wasn't hard,... you needed patience and a lot of time.
Actually, after a great workout grabbing a couple Egg McMuffins w/o cheese is a good choice, seeing how it's loaded with protein. Just stay away from fries and sodas you'll be fine.
i am real curious, but do you even play, eve, df, mo?
Philosophy of MMO Game Design
thats total BS. you completly ignored games like LoTRO, and Darkfall. many games came out after WoW that are far different. I dont want to name them all, but just look at the gamelist. you are narrow viewing the games out there, to only see the games that fit the description of the mmo which you hate
Philosophy of MMO Game Design
No they did not. believe it or not, they set the stage for MMO's to be even bigger then ever and more popular. its up to the studios out there to capitalize on it. What wow did do, and do quite well, is DESTROY the Warcraft IP. As someone who started playing warcraft back in the mid 90s like me can assure you, wow put an end to my interest in Azeroth.
I don't think he is into Scottish Kung-Fu, the mostly head butting, spitting, and kicking you while on the ground.
World of Warcraft did NOT kill MMOS. The truth is WE the fans choose what is popular, and what we like, and we make that vote with our money. So in short, if people wanna scream about MMO's sucking hardcore, then the buck stops here, cause we the fans are the blame.
Well, yeah they were this small great company putting out some great games, then they popped a nut!
The problem is all the games trying to copy WoWs success.
If you play the game and almost every turn you think, hey all they did was copy WoW and add small twist or change names... there is a problem with, oh no here it comes: WoW clones! I know someone here just wants to type up some drivel saying how those words shouldnèt even exist together. You can define it MMORPGs as all fruits some are apples, pears, oranges, etc. Sandbox, themepark, F2P, P2P, MMOFPS, superhero, fantasy, sci-fi, etc. When you have a themepark mmo, with two factions, battlegrounds, purple epics, and pretty much every feature looks like a copyépaste from WoW with different names...
When all the game feels like is a copy cat of WoW for cash with no soul, that's the problem.
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
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Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/Pointless thread, to request the MMORPG.com members if WoW is negative...
The answer is NO it did not. People have fond memories of MMORPG's in the past because it was a NEW thing... They aren't new anymore. I have fond memories of WC3, SC, C&C... But I do not enjoy RTS games anymore. They're just old and boring now.
I really enjoyed DAOC and WoW when it first came out but I get bored with MMORPG's these days... Dota/LoL/HoN is a somewhat newer type of game and I really enjoy those these days.
People talk about community and how it doesn't exist anymore? That's like saying LA, NYC, Tokeyo or any other massive CITY doesn't have a community anymore... NO SHIT, you have 123413241234 people and no one cares who you are or what you do. Older MMORPG's had like 200k players at BEST and there was a much greater chance you could be "special" in that small community.
In fact, what all of you are asking for, blizzard is providing, with server first achievements and special mounts and such to show off and be cool or something. The same exact tools exist today as they did in the past. Guilds, chat channels, and websites/forums. They didn't remove anything that you used to build a community in the past. They've added new ways for players to enjoy the game.
Yes
Zoos the Slacker
First with special mounts, eh no lot of games did that before blizzard. And archievements was there all along too, wow just made it so you could see them and show off. Yes, im my eyes Wow did destroy the MMO genre with the 12 age old to play tag. But we all know that children need a hand with everything to keep them interrested. (Sorry for bad spelling)
Zoos the Slacker
It's not just children...there are some adults that play the cartoon mmo called WOW. They too need their hand held throughout the linerer game play.
What we need is a UO (*Cough* Archage) that is updated, that is a sandbox, that has the financial backing to take on WOW..
With some quests, but not the grind your way to level 50 by collecting 5 wild berries and such, over and over again in a linerer fasion.
We need someone to take MMO's to a new level, like Nirvana did music in the 90's. Forget about the spandex, hair and lip stick.
YES THEY WERE popular LIKE WOW IS NOW! Then someone came along and showed people the light! Like the following.
http://youtu.be/KKll4C40TEU
Sometimes its good to think deep. Some times it good just to play games.
Amen. From what I have come across, reading this site, there arfe a handfull of MMORPG that should fit your requirements. But these games remain ignored. I think I have seen soem mentioned in this thread, Darkfall, Mortal Online, DAoC, or Fallen Earth. Rather then bemoan the presence of WoW, why not list the feture you want in your MMO. I will start a thread, and link to it in my signature, just for that purpose. If you know that such a thread exist post a link and I will add that to my sig. I just serached and didn't find such a thread.
Boy: Why can't I talk to Him?
Mom: We don't talk to Priests.
As if it could exist, without being payed for.
F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing.
Even telemarketers wouldn't think that.
It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.