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Why MO not be a good game!
Tacan
Member Posts: 93
This started long ago.
MO this is MMORPG , as in other game in MO have cheaters. in other games GMs banned cheaters. bcz is reputation game.
but MO thats another story.
MO had bad start. they needed each subscrider. SV did not punish cheaters.
many times ppl show evidence. and again SV not punish cheaters.
Many players saw this situation began to use cheats and exploits.
and also GMs dont know game mechanic.
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I think this is kind of cute.
Do YOU know game mechanics? Ive been called an exploiter and hacker countless times by people who are completely clueless which makes me really skeptical, especially when it comes to people I dont know. Most of the counselors and GMs are dedicated to their job and do make an effort but without proof it's pretty much impossible to justify banning someone.
They used to be completely fricking useless in beta and early release, but during 2011 i know from experience that cheaters have been banned. I agree with some of what you're saying as there are a couple of long term cheaters still running around doing their shit but it is incorrect to accuse them of completely disregarding it.
U know game mechanics?
Question. who faster mage 120 dex or warrior 99 dex?
So the whole issue boils down to SV not having the appropriate tools to detect or at least log enough data to be able to determine that the person was hacking.
Exactly!!! Video is the only proof. But when you show video, GMs respond that it does not cheat or exploit
This is how it looks to me, and Ive been saying for a long time steps should be taken to help GMs do their job.
And Tacan prime example of your 120 dex > all idea
Im a 99 dex warrior and I kept up with that mage effortlessly.
And I know from experience that other 120 dex mages fail to outrun me. As you can see from the video it's not all about speed it's also about how you use your stamina, and if you are an experienced player you will quickly pick out the mistakes the mage makes in the video. Finally, 120/100 really isnt that much faster than a 99/121. It is, but people really seem to overestimate veelas and think they should just leave everyone in the dirt.
And I noticed you said something about a video? If you have one link it and I'll tell you whether I think it's legit or not - i have a LOT of experience of things like that.
However, these GM issues have definitely happened to me so I can sympathize to an extent (and Im not definitively saying you're wrong but a lot of people do get it wrong a lot of the time). AQ has put a lot of effort into getting RUS members banned over the past 10 months and it was painful and seriously annoying how much >proof< we had to give the GMs to get them to act. But in the end they did.
This not be good thread. You has point that small game will have trouble imposing discipline without undermining player population, How is MO different from every other small game? With no reference to something specific, this is kind of a pointless thread.
wait wait wait... you guys actually understood wtf he was getting at??
A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true...
how did you do it?
we tested this a month or so ago. the 120 (125 with bonus) dex mage is only very marginaly faster tehn the 116 (121 with bonus) con worrior. when i say marginaly i mean it was so close you could barely tell if there was any difference at all. only over a few minutes of running could you tell that the mage was slighly pulling away.
of course wehn it comes to sprinting the 121 con fighter has significantly more stamina then the 125 dex mage ( more then 1/4) so the mage would run out of stamina way before the worrior. keep in mind that the worrior we tested had Endurance wile the mage didn't. everything else was all maxed on both characters.
if you really want to be on completely even terms sped/stamina wise with worriors you'll have to go 99 dex 121 con and then get endurance.you'll probably have higher hp too with the 121 dex.
the biggest problem are those polseswords with their 9 feet range. wile a sword has to besically be almost on top of you to hit you a polesword will hit you from quite far. as a mage when you are running away all they have to do is stay within 6 feet behind you and just swing away. 2 swings hit and y ou'll be below 50% which totaly craps out your stamina. stay far far away from those poleswords.
this is exactly how it is, the speed difference is so small that the way you run through the terrain makes all the difference between getting away and being caught. As a mage you really need to keep your distance from warriors especially polearm users and you wont have any problems.
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
eehh
i meant it
mage(full stamina bar) sprinting in non combat mode
Warrior sprint (combat mode) after him and cathches up mage
Im not sure exactly. it involved a lot of anger and petitioning exploits to get the GMs to see their exploit first hand. The exploit in question was very obvious which made it easier for them to detact but at the same time we were astounded by the GM's lack of cooperation on the matter. But in the end we got Dek banned. Then not long after, Weedy from RUS appeared and killed 2 of us in 1 stamina bar and continued sprinting after the fight was over. We showed Discord fraps and he banned him within a couple of hours.
I see it every day.
i play everyday(well almost) and ive only seen it that once
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
against whom you fought?
After Gigamo went down and ended the recording my fraps recording showed BoyZz moving straight onto Darran while continuing to sprint, killing him then continuing to sprint even with no enemies left, when realistically he should have been out of stamina well before he even killed Gigamo.
Cronite sword?
and why did you stsrt talking about cheats at once?
substitute? for GM?
Yes, cronite sword. But as I said he did more than was shown in the video even though what he does in the video is probably impossible on a legit stamina bar.
And the reason I talked about cheats instantly was because on my screen he was on a horse and he'd killed dotix not long before while appearing bugged on a horse, and as it was RUS who have a history of rampant exploiting i jumped to conclusions.
U from AQ?
I know Guild RUS recorder many videos about AQ cheats.but GMs said fraps is not proof.
For me it is proof what 70% use cheats exploits and bugs and incompetent GMs
aq are the most legit guild in MO, I cant speak for every member but i can speak for myself and my knowlegde of the guild and its members. I have never once seen a fellow aq member do anything that i could question as cheating, we report bugs and hackers more regularly than any other guild. RUS have never presented any sufficient evidence to say that aq cheat.
it is widely known by the mo communtiy that rus are well known for blatant cheaqting and many of their members have been banned.
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
ok If RUS do this =cheat
if any other do this =i PvP skill?
right????
then show me these videos?
there are 2 types of mmo, imitators and innovaters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfJ7l9fGYqY&feature=youtu.be
answer:
We have forward these to the Lead GM, he has informed us these are prediction issues not exploiting, its hard to explain but prediction can show your client these type of issues, as on there screen they don't see it.