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Help pls. Laptop decision
I have 3 specific choices. I have to choose between:
1. Samsung – i5 2450 – GT 520MX 1GB - 6GB 1333 DDR3 – 500GB HD
2. Fujitsu – i5 2430 – GT 525M 1GB – 4GB 1333 DDR3 – 750GB HD
3. Toshiba – i5 2410 – GT 525M 1GB – 4GB 1333 DDR3 – 640GB HD
I will use it mostly for games ( eve - cod - wow - pro 2012 ) but I will also run sometimes CAD programs. Their price is almost similar.
Which one do you think is more appropriate?
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Unless you found any of those for significantly below $500, I'd say none of them. What's your budget?
i dont have any other choice
must be one of them...
Why don't you have any other choice? People who don't think they have any other choice usually do and don't realize it.
Those are all the same goofy class of product that doesn't have any real reason to exist anymore. If you found one for $400, then have at it, but that's unlikely, as it would require someone selling at a loss.
Anyway i must choose one of them. One last option is a Lenovo - i7 740QM - ATI HD 5730 1GB - 4GB 1333 DDR3 - 500GB HD
Why do you have to choose one of them, though? Why did you previously say there are only three options possible, and now you add a fourth? And what is the price tag on any of these laptops? A laptop that is an awesome deal at $400 may be completely stupid at $1000.
because its a gift man. so if you have a suggestion about those 4 say it pls.
You're not making sense. The only way that I could see those four being the only choices is if someone already has all four of them and is offering to give you one either for free or very cheaply (significantly under $500). Because if the laptop hasn't already been purchased, then buying any of them is probably going to be a huge mistake. That's not a sensible thing to do whether it's you buying a gift for someone else, or someone else buying a gift for you.
So for the third time, could you please explain why those are the only four possible choices? Because they probably aren't.
If those aret he choices I would go for hte Samsung. I prefer their design and they have a lot nicer screen.
But they are very similar so just take the one you think look and feel best.
of those choices, I would pick the Samsung.
So for the third time, could you please explain why those are the only four possible choices? Because they probably aren't.
I think - if the dude says it's his only choices, the reasons don't matter so much. Maybe it's personal, maybe it's illegal, maybe it's none of our damn business. The "why" doesn't really have anything to do with the answer to the question.
A simple "can you pick anything else instead" accomplishes the same line of querying without all the 3rd degree and disrespect.
I would go with the Lenovo myself mostly because I really like the displays in Lenovo machines and the experience I have had with their support is very good. Hard to make a good choice without knowing the model though.
No clue how the GPU's fair against each other though.
Looking forward to uhh.....
playing: Civ 5, Tony Hawk Pro Skater HD
Use desktop for gaming.
As far as which laptop
The i7 option is older, all of the i5's are newer Sandy Bridge models.
I don't really know why laptops come with 6G of RAM, that is strange, but...
The 525M options are quite a bit faster graphics-wise, but your still just one step removed from integrated graphics, so don't expect anything high powered.
The CPU's are all a wash really (even the older i7 one, which will perform about the same all in all, but won't have some of the more advanced power management and TurboBoost features).
Really, I think it would come down to which you think looks and feels better. Laptops can be as much about what works for you (since the trackpad/mouse/touchpad/etc and keyboard and screen are all integrated) as what the tech specs are.
Edit** As a side note - Toshiba ranks very well in Laptop reliability - 6% better than Lenovo. Samsung doesn't sell enough units to really rate. HP rates among the worst, and over 9% lower than Toshiba.
http://www.squaretrade.com/htm/pdf/SquareTrade_laptop_reliability_1109.pdf
Last time someone came in here claiming his choices were very limited, it was because he found some site that would let him pay in installments, and couldn't afford to pay everything up front. The problem was that the site overcharged by something like 30%+ for everything, so it would have been cheaper to just run a balance on a credit card for a year as you pay it off.
If you really want to know how the hardware compares, then a GeForce GT 525M is the low bin of Nvidia's GF118 chip, which isn't really meant for gaming. A GeForce GT 520MX is Nvidia's GF119 chip, which is basically a GF118 cut in half, and the lowest end chip that one could make from Nvidia's Fermi architecture without taking out so much that it flatly doesn't run. A Mobility Radeon HD 5730 is an intermediate bin of AMD's Redwood chip, which is very much a budget gaming chip, but significantly better than GF118.
A Core i5-2410M, -2430M, and -2450M are three different bins of the same chip, a Sandy Bridge dual core. A Core i7-740QM is an older Clarksfield quad core chip. The first three have two faster cores, while the Core i7-740QM has four slower cores. Which is better for gaming depends on how well the game scales to three or four cores.
If you want to game on a laptop and can't afford a $1000+ system, then what you really want is an AMD Llano A6 or A8-based laptop, with a discrete video card optional. The Radeon HD 6620G integrated graphics in a Llano chip is significantly faster than a GeForce GT 520MX discrete card, and not far shy of a GeForce GT 525M. You can get Llano systems new in the $500-$700 range.
As well-meaning as your intentions are - how someone wants to pay for their computer is their own business. If it were up to common sense, Rent-To-Own, Payday Loan, and many other semi-shady operations just wouldn't exist. But people use them, and some people live by them.
It doesn't mean I have to agree with them, or encourage them, but it's their own choice, and not for me to judge. It's their money, and their computer - I wish them good luck no matter how they get it, how they finance it, or what they use it for. I can offer my opinions and advice all day long, but I by no means force it on them, or demand three times that they explain themselves to me before I deem to give it.
so an
HP - A6 3410MX - 6755G2 - 6GB 1333 DDR3
or
HP - A6 3400M - 6540G2 - 6GB 1333 DDR3
is better?
anyone?
Yes, the first of those is a lot better than any of the other laptops you've been looking at. Radeon HD 6755G2 graphics means it has both Radeon HD 6520G integrated graphics and a Radeon HD 6750M discrete card. The integrated graphics are already better than a GeForce GT 520MX. The 6750M is significantly faster than any of the video cards in the other laptops. An A6-3410MX is also a real quad core processor, and while the cores aren't as fast as those of the Core i5-24*0M processors, which is faster will depend on whether a program scales well to four cores or not.
If you're in the US and looking to buy from HP, then you might as well configure the laptop right. 6 GB of memory is stupid. You'd better off with 4 GB, as two 2 GB modules. Alternatively, if it comes with 6 GB, you could buy your own 4 GB module for about $20, and replace the 2 GB module that HP ships with your own 4 GB module, and then have 8 GB.
Also, HP tends to offer upgrades to an A8-3530MX (or maybe -3550MX now?) processor at reasonable prices, so I'd go ahead and grab that upgrade if it fits your budget. That gets you both stronger integrated graphics and also a faster processor.
The laptop might use asynchronous crossfire by default. If it does, then you want to disable that. For most programs, you want to try using the integrated graphics first, as that's the low power option. If you try a game on the integrated graphics and it doesn't perform as well as you'd like, then you can use the discrete card and roughly double your graphics performance. Pulling the graphics work off of the APU will allow for a more aggressive CPU turbo boost, too. Using the discrete card will mean higher power consumption, so you basically want to use it when the performance difference matters and not when it doesn't.
Llano offers by far the best integrated graphics ever made. Switching between AMD integrated graphics and an AMD discrete card means that unified AMD drivers can control everything, and shut down the video card while it's not in use. That means much longer battery life than if you had to keep a discrete card running all of the time. It also means you avoid the driver nightmares of switching between Nvidia and Intel graphics, and hoping that the Intel integrated graphics somehow manage to magically work. Nvidia drivers won't be the problem, but Nvidia can't be expected to make Intel graphics magically work.
ty very much