It is possible that the topic starter is actually an intellectual genius or eye-hand coordination one, but he could also just have so much time on his hands that he beats the rest of the players due to raw experience accumulated by playing far more hours than the general population.
It is important to discuss why he is so good, in order to analyze whether or not pay2win is then a great system to make "bad" players reach "good" ones.
Pay to win is awesome really and it makes pro people enjoy the game so much more. Do you have any idea just how much fun it is to roflstomp your freeloading opponent in AoE: Online with a villager rush because your villagers have epic gear and outdamage his military units? I'm telling you, you haven't lived until you steamrolled some poor basement-dwelling kiddo with your tier 4 siege cannons when all he can make is archers and wooden walls.
Equally hilarious in Battleforge. I would summon a 2-mana giant beast of oblivion during the first 90 seconds of the game. My opponents would desperately summon 10 or more groups of their own tier 1 units consisting of over 40 archers, only to see them flying all over the screen, squatted like the little bugs they are. After throwing everything he has at it, he spasms and screams like a madman when he realizes 3 more are swatting down his buildings. And then the priceless look on his face as they realize you're not answering because you're afk while you attack-moved your units to his base.
It's a feeling you just can't describe to the average player. It's like you're playing Call of Duty, but you're an invincible robot that's calling down orbital Ion Cannons to utterely vaporize anyone who dares to even look in your direction. Freaking incredible. Adding buyable skins for my character is an added bonus. Nothing makes those noobcakes nerdrage more than getting annihilated by a guy called herpderp who's wearing an 80 dollar virtual headband on his avatar. They used to yell at me for having no life after I destroyed them. Now I laugh at them for having no money after they get whomped. It's a whole new world out there, and I for one welcome it.
And what happens if a good player also uses pay 2 win, and another good player does not?
For me it is the same kind of rationale as in doping in sports. Sure it allows for less talented people to compete against the more talented one's, but what happens when a talented person starts to use doping? How will other talented people compete with him?
Pay 2 Win is altogether bad in any kind of competetive activity.
This is the what will happen. Good players don't have some sort of built in "fairness" meter, where they'll watch someone else P2W so they can be equal. If they have the means and its not morally reprehensible to them they'll just P2W as well, and destroy the lesser players as would be expected.
Only beneficiary in this equation is the company and its at the expense of all the other players who don't (or won't) pay to win.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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It is possible that the topic starter is actually an intellectual genius or eye-hand coordination one, but he could also just have so much time on his hands that he beats the rest of the players due to raw experience accumulated by playing far more hours than the general population.
It is important to discuss why he is so good, in order to analyze whether or not pay2win is then a great system to make "bad" players reach "good" ones.
I dont know y I'm so good, I just am. Tho if I had to guess, I would say its cus I have so much more skill and smarter than other plyrs.
Your warped logic makes a kind of sense. If everyone on P2W buys the best gears, then it logically means that the player's actual Skill will determine the outcome of a fight, given that all the gear/abilities are balanced because everyone simply bought the best ones.
However, I don't see alot of P2W games being either huge MMO successes or perfectly balanced as a result of P2W. Hmm...
Neither is necessary to make an enjoyable game for a while. Lots of games become viable turning F2P and they provide good, free entertainment and there are a lot of choices. All good.
It is possible that the topic starter is actually an intellectual genius or eye-hand coordination one, but he could also just have so much time on his hands that he beats the rest of the players due to raw experience accumulated by playing far more hours than the general population.
It is important to discuss why he is so good, in order to analyze whether or not pay2win is then a great system to make "bad" players reach "good" ones.
I dont know y I'm so good, I just am. Tho if I had to guess, I would say its cus I have so much more skill and smarter than other plyrs.
Now days gear determines who is better so your "skills" coment really makes no sense.
It is possible that the topic starter is actually an intellectual genius or eye-hand coordination one, but he could also just have so much time on his hands that he beats the rest of the players due to raw experience accumulated by playing far more hours than the general population.
It is important to discuss why he is so good, in order to analyze whether or not pay2win is then a great system to make "bad" players reach "good" ones.
I dont know y I'm so good, I just am. Tho if I had to guess, I would say its cus I have so much more skill and smarter than other plyrs.
Now days gear determines who is better so your "skills" coment really makes no sense.
yah but i own ppl even if they have better gear so that means u comment make no sense
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It is possible that the topic starter is actually an intellectual genius or eye-hand coordination one, but he could also just have so much time on his hands that he beats the rest of the players due to raw experience accumulated by playing far more hours than the general population.
It is important to discuss why he is so good, in order to analyze whether or not pay2win is then a great system to make "bad" players reach "good" ones.
hehehheehe
Though I'll never ever agree with or support pay to win style, this was one funny argument for having it as an option.
Pay to win is awesome really and it makes pro people enjoy the game so much more. Do you have any idea just how much fun it is to roflstomp your freeloading opponent in AoE: Online with a villager rush because your villagers have epic gear and outdamage his military units? I'm telling you, you haven't lived until you steamrolled some poor basement-dwelling kiddo with your tier 4 siege cannons when all he can make is archers and wooden walls.
Equally hilarious in Battleforge. I would summon a 2-mana giant beast of oblivion during the first 90 seconds of the game. My opponents would desperately summon 10 or more groups of their own tier 1 units consisting of over 40 archers, only to see them flying all over the screen, squatted like the little bugs they are. After throwing everything he has at it, he spasms and screams like a madman when he realizes 3 more are swatting down his buildings. And then the priceless look on his face as they realize you're not answering because you're afk while you attack-moved your units to his base.
It's a feeling you just can't describe to the average player. It's like you're playing Call of Duty, but you're an invincible robot that's calling down orbital Ion Cannons to utterely vaporize anyone who dares to even look in your direction. Freaking incredible. Adding buyable skins for my character is an added bonus. Nothing makes those noobcakes nerdrage more than getting annihilated by a guy called herpderp who's wearing an 80 dollar virtual headband on his avatar. They used to yell at me for having no life after I destroyed them. Now I laugh at them for having no money after they get whomped. It's a whole new world out there, and I for one welcome it.
This is the what will happen. Good players don't have some sort of built in "fairness" meter, where they'll watch someone else P2W so they can be equal. If they have the means and its not morally reprehensible to them they'll just P2W as well, and destroy the lesser players as would be expected.
Only beneficiary in this equation is the company and its at the expense of all the other players who don't (or won't) pay to win.
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
I dont know y I'm so good, I just am. Tho if I had to guess, I would say its cus I have so much more skill and smarter than other plyrs.
Neither is necessary to make an enjoyable game for a while. Lots of games become viable turning F2P and they provide good, free entertainment and there are a lot of choices. All good.
Now days gear determines who is better so your "skills" coment really makes no sense.
yah but i own ppl even if they have better gear so that means u comment make no sense