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Question for MMO vets re: Housing

I've played a ton of MMOs but really nowhere near close to all the games that are listed at this site so I was hoping to get some feedback from players who have played a lot more than I have.

One of the things I really liked about Vanguard was the ability to build my own house that existed right there in the game world for all to see whether I was logged in or not.  Not instanced, but actually a physical presence in the gameworld.

My question is, what MMOs have offered player housing that was not instanced, but was an actual physical presence in game?

The only two that come to mind for me are UO and Vanguard.  Yes I know there can be problems with players housing (the mess of houses in UO), but I also think it can be done right (Vanguard).  Obviously these can often end up looking like ghost towns when servers aren't active, but I always thought this to be a cool feature and was wondering what other MMO has done this well.

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  • anthonyman6anthonyman6 Member UncommonPosts: 73

    I've been looking for this as well and cannot find one.

     

    Also, add ArcheAge to your list of MMOs to look at. This game should have everything you're looking for.

    You can basically build a house wherever you want. On the side of a cliff, next to waterfall, etc.

  • TorikTorik Member UncommonPosts: 2,342

    Star Wars Galaxies and A Tale in the Desert had/have open world housing.

  • nerovipus32nerovipus32 Member Posts: 2,735

    swg didn't just have housing it had player created cities.

  • HopfrogHopfrog Member Posts: 90

    Originally posted by anthonyman6

    I've been looking for this as well and cannot find one.

     

    Also, add ArcheAge to your list of MMOs to look at. This game should have everything you're looking for.

    You can basically build a house wherever you want. On the side of a cliff, next to waterfall, etc.

     

    Ah good call.  I normally run when I hear "Korean MMO", but taking a look at it based on your suggestion.  Looks like they might have something with this.  Found a video of a house being created and furnished in the game world from their korean beta test.

    warning.... hit the mute button, it is made by a very annoying young korean girl

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=01F0VHXHbDM

     

  • anthonyman6anthonyman6 Member UncommonPosts: 73

    Originally posted by Hopfrog

    Originally posted by anthonyman6

    I've been looking for this as well and cannot find one.

     

    Also, add ArcheAge to your list of MMOs to look at. This game should have everything you're looking for.

    You can basically build a house wherever you want. On the side of a cliff, next to waterfall, etc.

     

    Ah good call.  I normally run when I hear "Korean MMO", but taking a look at it based on your suggestion.  Looks like they might have something with this.  Found a video of a house being created and furnished in the game world from their korean beta test.

    warning.... hit the mute button, it is made by a very annoying young korean girl

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=01F0VHXHbDM

     

    Hahah, I've seen that one! I muted her pretty quickly.

     

    I used to run from Korean MMOs but some are pretty solid. I'm not a huuuge fan of the artstyle but this game doesn't go crazy with it. Secondly, it has way too much of what I want in an MMO to pass it up.

     

    I've watched so many streams of the beta tests and I've been blown away every time.

  • HopfrogHopfrog Member Posts: 90

     I'm not a huuuge fan of the artstyle but this game doesn't go crazy with it. Secondly, it has way too much of what I want in an MMO to pass it up.

    Wow, I thought the exact same thing.  I always hate the cartoony/freaky looking style of characters in Asian games, but I also thought they toned it down enough to keep me interested in it.  Gonna follow this one now as well.  As an aside, any other games currently in dev that will have oped world housing?

    So far, only 4 have had open world housing?

    Vanguard, UO, SWG, and Tale in the Desert

  • anthonyman6anthonyman6 Member UncommonPosts: 73

    Originally posted by Hopfrog

     I'm not a huuuge fan of the artstyle but this game doesn't go crazy with it. Secondly, it has way too much of what I want in an MMO to pass it up.

    Wow, I thought the exact same thing.  I always hate the cartoony/freaky looking style of characters in Asian games, but I also thought they toned it down enough to keep me interested in it.  Gonna follow this one now as well.  As an aside, any other games currently in dev that will have oped world housing?

    So far, only 4 have had open world housing?

    Vanguard, UO, SWG, and Tale in the Desert

    As far as I know. Which is a shame, in my opinion. Open world housing is one of those things that catch immersion for me.

     

    Basically why I'm looking forward to ArcheAge. Plus, it's beautiful graphically.

     

    NEED MORE OPEN HOUSING! haha

  • IcewhiteIcewhite Member Posts: 6,403

    I've always been of the "fun once" mindset with regards to homes.

    After building your first one, and fiddling with it to your heart's content; it becomes less important as a must-have feature.

    How much time does your home actually spend being used/occupied?  Would affect how you feel about homes in general, I suspect.  In most games, the homes are just empty spaces, not terribly useful, not necessary, not even fun (after it's done being built).

    Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  • mastersomratmastersomrat Member UncommonPosts: 373

    Vangaurd does have an interesting take on housing; however, keep in mind that Vangaurds housing is static, meaning yes you can build in an uninstanced area but from what I can see it's pointless (has zero function).

    EQ2 housing is of course is instanced but you have many more options (placement and function).

    WURM Online would have to be over the best regaurding housing (please look it up because it's simply to much to list here) but I would call this a strickly a survival / crafting mmo.

    There are others available; however, imo these are the currently the best released.  Vangaurd and EQ2 are Theamparks, WO is a sandbox; ie., no hand holding..lol

    Ryzom, ATilD (don't recommend unless you want to start over ever 18 months) are also crafting mmo with better than average housing.

    RoM also has instance housing options, They say is F2P but we all know the truth (not really sure who their trying for kid).

    Thats all I can think of now

     

  • ZekiahZekiah Member UncommonPosts: 2,483

    Ultima Online and Star Wars Galaxies are two I know of like that. SWG cities were something to behold! Walking down the streets and seeing people selling droids, other shoppers, etc...man that was magic.

    "Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  • CaldrinCaldrin Member UncommonPosts: 4,505

    Mortal Online

    Dawntide will when tis released

    Xyson - Has player built everything.

    Quite a few others as well..

  • VhalnVhaln Member Posts: 3,159

    DAOC had housing zones, but they weren't instanced.  So does LOTRO.  Althought in DAOC, the neighborhoods are much larger, and customization options a lot more extensive.  Best compromise I've seen in an MMO, of open world housing, that doesn't get in the way of the regular open world.

    When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  • Horizons/Istaria has open world plots, though what you actually construct is used more to boost functionality rather than as buildings you put stuff into and arrange.  For example on your plot you can build a house, some silos, a crafting building, etc.  The house has little purpose beyond storage.

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247

    Originally posted by Hopfrog

    My question is, what MMOs have offered player housing that was not instanced, but was an actual physical presence in game?

     

    For the sake of clarity, this list here includes games where individual players, as opposed to guild or factions, can own and manipulate territory in the open world.


    • Vanguard

    • Ultima Online

    • A Tale in the Desert

    • EVE Online

    • Puzzle Pirates

    • Darkfall

    • Mortal Online

    • SWG

    • Xsyon

    • Asheron's Call

    • Shadowbane (closed)

    • Uncharted Water Online

    • Horizons/Istaria

     


     


    edit: updated. I can't believe I left the one with housing that includes Dragon Dens out. Thanks, Venger!

     

     

     

     

     

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  • VengerVenger Member UncommonPosts: 1,309

    Horizons (Istaria)

  • VengeSunsoarVengeSunsoar Member EpicPosts: 6,601

    Someone allready stated it.

    Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is bad.
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