Nothing to do with the time it takes to level, WoW is just too simple for me.It seems to me in every post you have to preach about how you have done everything and you could do it in 3 weeks etc. Are you looking for some kind of validation? Nobody cares how fast you level, what loot you have or how many quests you've done. I very seriously doubt you have done everything in the game. About why WoW is a "kiddie" game. Well I will concede that EQ 2 is not on the same level as EQ 1 in terms of the amount of time and effort you have to put in but WoW is just too easy. It is laughably easy! Yes, it is my personal preference but the way the game looks is just lame. I really don't like that style at all. That is my proof that WoW is a "kiddie" MMO, it's easy! Far too easy for me and most of the people I know and play with. At the end of the day most of what is said here is personal opinion. I'd say the same thing about GW, it's like the "Happy Meal" of MMOs. You open the box and you can do just about everything. This just isn't for me. I would still play EQ1 but unfortunately I cant get past the graphics anymore. I agree to some extent about your comments vis a vis EQ2 needing a fairly good PC, but thats the price you pay for cutting edge visuals. Ultimately, you pay to play and EQ 2 was designed to look good for a few years! S
Well this has nothing to do with the original post and all you can manage to do is attack me personally and the only reason you have at this point is your personal distaste for WoW and HAVING to be right. I'll just have to agree to dissagree with you that just because YOU say so is enough reason for WoW to suck.
These forums are a celebration of everyone's oppinions brought into one melting pan for others to enjoy, question and comment upon. I'm still completely amazed by people that are so closed minded and can have such a hard time to come up with anything credible that they have to critisize other people personally.
rcdgear I appologize for my own part in steering your thread way off course.
Oh relax, thats hardly what I would deem a personal attack, just pointing something out was all ... I also apologize for de-railing the thread and will not post off topic anymore.
Originally posted by shae Originally posted by Sharkypal Ok, well someone who leaves EQ2 for WoW doesnt really strike me as a serious MMO player. Further to that, the tradeskills are great fun and very rewarding if you stick them out. Admittedly they are rather annnoying at first. I've seen some crazy silly comments on these boards, but this is for sure in the top 5. First of all, she never even said she "left" EQ2 for WoW, instead she simply stated that she was using WoW and COH as filler until EQ2 got their act together but even so, declairing someone you dont even know as "not a serious MMO player" is just inane. WoW is a wonderful game, and fits the bill for many many players, aprox. 12 TIMES more people then EQ2 fits. Some of the hardest of hard core MMO players and RP'ers that I know play WoW full time and nothing but WoW, I'd love for you to tell them that their game doesn't classify as a "serious" MMO. Furthermore, tradeskills maybe great fun for you, I actually really enjoy my lvl 50 weaponsmith and is one of the 3 reasons why I'm actually still playing EQ2 but it's certanly not for everyone. I think rcdtear was simply saying it wasn't for her. Lastly, no one is arguing that EQ2 has ZERO content, as rcdtear stated, you can have content, but where's the depth. Simply stated EQ2 has none and you can prove this by trying to answer one question: Once you have the uber armor, uber twink, done the raids and mastered your tradeskill what does the game do to support the community and gameplay? Without creating an answer you simply can't come up with an answer because there is nothing. Hopefully this is comming, but as it stands now you have to creat depth on your own in EQ2 and that's where many end level players are having issues as it stands right now.
Originally posted by Yeebo Flambait removed. Turn the other cheek and all that. Have a nice day.
LOL Yeebo I was about to, but you removed it and I forgot . Oh now I remember! HEHE sorry but EQ2 is harder than WoW. Have you played WoW? People get to level 60 without a SINGLE clue as to how their class fits in to a group. And this isn't just one or two people, this is literally thronging masses of people who have no clue how to play their class at level 60.
EQ2 punishes you into learning what your classes role is. I like that.
EDIT: btw Shae I enjoy your posts and keep up the good work, anyone with an unjaundiced eye agrees with you. And no I'm not hitting on her lol my gf is watching over my shoulder
I have played both. In a less inflamatorry manner let me give you an idea of where I'm coming from.
In terms of speed of levelling I'd say WoW and EQ II are pretty similar. Unless of course (heaven forbid) you play a Scout class in EQ II. Then it's a ton harder from about 20 on in EQ II. In terms of class roles in a party, EQ II does take more skill for most classes. However, I'd argue that holding aggro takes more skill for a WoW warrior that for a EQ II fighter class (Warriors don't get any really reliable taunts in WoW, it's a real bitch). I fact I'd argue that Warriors and possibly Druids in WoW are much deeper than the average EQ II class (if they add stances in the combat exapansion, as they are talking about, EQ II tanks will catch up the the WoW warrior in terms of depth and skill needed to be effective).
Crafting, EQ II just kicks WoW in the jimmy and never lets it get up. I quit WoW after three months because the crafting bit, and I've played EQ II since then because the crafting is so deep.
However, overall, I just don't think EQ II is very hard. I think it's pretty silly to be completley impressed with yourself for preferring EQ II to WoW. It's like thinking you're a stud because you prefer tick-tac-toe to go-fish. Yeah, it takes a litlle more skill . . .but not that much in the grand scheme of things.
I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.
Originally posted by shae Originally posted by Jodokai Sorry seemed that is EXACTLY what you were asking Then you don't EXACTLY know how to read, do you ?
Or maybe you're just ineffective at getting your point across.
Originally posted by Jodokai Sorry seemed that is EXACTLY what you were asking
Then you don't EXACTLY know how to read, do you ?
Or maybe you're just ineffective at getting your point across.
LOL, the saddest thing about you is you've completely negated even trying to make a point and have resorted to pre-school insults and if that doesn't make my original point about you in then I don't know what would.
Originally posted by anarchyart Have you played WoW? People get to level 60 without a SINGLE clue as to how their class fits in to a group. And this isn't just one or two people, this is literally thronging masses of people who have no clue how to play their class at level 60.
EQ2 punishes you into learning what your classes role is. I like that.
And that is precisely what makes it a poor game compared to EQ1 which allowed for certain classes to find their own way through the game solo if they wished. Players could choose to solo to 65 or to group to 65 or whatever mix of grouping soloing they wanted. Taking away player choice is a BAD thing not a good thing.
Of the ten or so bards I knew who moved from EQ1 to EQ2 one is still playing most had given up by Christmas. I gave up at level 22 one week into the release which funnily enough is exactly how long I lasted in the beta.
Forcing people to group doesn't make a game harder, just more irritating as so much time is wasted. It seems strange that WoW took everything good from EQ and made it better and EQ2 took everything poor in EQ and made it worse.
Unlike in EQ's time there are just too many other games around for a second rate product to survive.
To the original poster my response would be play more than one game, personally I play several though only in one month intervals. It does help to not get bored of any game in particular though.
Originally posted by Noubourne Take a break, and come back when the expansion comes out. You clearly play a lot and that's why you're bored. How many hours have you put into it? Seems a bit odd to claim that one of the games on the market with the MOST content is somehow lacking in content simply because you've put in over 300 hours and you've seen it all. There are games that lack content, this isn't one of them. Maybe play some other game for a few months. If it's not fun, stop playing.
Well....
I dont know about the MOST content. It has alot, but not even near the MOST.
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PLEASE SOE MAKE A CLASSIC EQ SERVER. Shadow of luclin was a prick in EQs side. PoP Was a gun to the face.
Originally posted by scaramoosh Has more content than most! I mean it's lasted you from beta till now :S Most games don't last that long
The first EQ lasted me 5 years.
Man, that game was great... till SOE ruined it with expansions
--Nyture, Arc Convoker of fironia vie server (EQ) --Retired-- -- Nytur 39 Conjuror of Lucan D'lere (Quit due to low populations) -- Currently playing WoW while waiting for vanguard Explorer 66% Socializer 60% Killer 53% Achiever 20%
PLEASE SOE MAKE A CLASSIC EQ SERVER. Shadow of luclin was a prick in EQs side. PoP Was a gun to the face.
Originally posted by Yeebo In terms of speed of levelling I'd say WoW and EQ II are pretty similar.
Completely untrue, while EQ 2 is way faster than EQ 1 in terms of levelling, it is nowhere close to WoW. I got to lvl 23 in just under 3 days. You can't do that in EQ 2.
Originally posted by Noubourne Take a break, and come back when the expansion comes out. You clearly play a lot and that's why you're bored. How many hours have you put into it? Seems a bit odd to claim that one of the games on the market with the MOST content is somehow lacking in content simply because you've put in over 300 hours and you've seen it all. There are games that lack content, this isn't one of them. Maybe play some other game for a few months. If it's not fun, stop playing.
Well.... I dont know about the MOST content. It has alot, but not even near the MOST.
Of current MMO's, EQ 2 easily has the most content!
Originally posted by Yeebo In terms of speed of levelling I'd say WoW and EQ II are pretty similar.
Completely untrue, while EQ 2 is way faster than EQ 1 in terms of levelling, it is nowhere close to WoW. I got to lvl 23 in just under 3 days. You can't do that in EQ 2.
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That is not true either in EQ1 you can hit level 70 in ten days (level 40 in 40 hours is about average for me these days and they are making it easier all the time), in EQ2 you can hit level 15 in one day on your own from scratch so level 23 in 3 days doesn't seem so impossible.
The point is if you play for 16+ hours a day, that is more than the developers work, it is no wonder you run out of content as you play faster than the developers can write.
Originally posted by Yeebo In terms of speed of levelling I'd say WoW and EQ II are pretty similar.
Completely untrue, while EQ 2 is way faster than EQ 1 in terms of levelling, it is nowhere close to WoW. I got to lvl 23 in just under 3 days. You can't do that in EQ 2.
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That is not true either in EQ1 you can hit level 70 in ten days (level 40 in 40 hours is about average for me these days and they are making it easier all the time), in EQ2 you can hit level 15 in one day on your own from scratch so level 23 in 3 days doesn't seem so impossible.
The point is if you play for 16+ hours a day, that is more than the developers work, it is no wonder you run out of content as you play faster than the developers can write.
Exploiting doesnt count mmmmk! You cannot get to level 70 in EQ 1 in 10 days without exploiting. And if I had played WoW for 16 hours a day, I would have been level 60 in 3 days.
One of the reasons that leveling is so easy in WoW is because of the "rested bonus." Basically, if you are a casual gamer your get double Xp for everything you kill. It's designed to make the game less challenging for casual gamers. A hardcore gamer has to play more than twice as much as a casual gamer to level more quickly.
There is only one other game I can think of that has this system, which is designed soley to make the game easier for the average player. Do you know what game I'm thinking of?
I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.
Stop pretending EQ2 has the same low-commitment levelling speed that WoW has. It's just about right for most gamers, but anyone who's going to sit down 24/7 and grind is going to crank through to max level in ANY game.
The point made about EQ2 forcing you to learn your class a bit before getting all the way to the top is a good one.
Maybe you should do a little research before you spout off about "bonus experience", which almost everyone thinks is a good idea when not overdone. Keep in mind MMO players pay several hundred million dollars a year to buy pre-levelled characters so they don't even have to put the time in to do it the regular way.
Is bonus XP supposed to be some indication of game difficulty? Not a very good indicator. And if that's your biggest beef with EQ2 and WoW, you need to get some perspective. There are plenty of things to be critical of, bonus XP is hardly worth the time to whine about.
Habit is not to be flung out the window by any man, but coaxed down the stairs one step at a time. - Mark Twain
I've played loads of games throughout the years and gameplay is always a greater factor for continuing to play a game then graphics will ever be. It seems to be a current trend to make a game look beautiful but lacks longevity. Come on game designers out there! Give players what they want not what you think they want.
Originally posted by Jodokai Sorry seemed that is EXACTLY what you were asking
Then you don't EXACTLY know how to read, do you ?
Or maybe you're just ineffective at getting your point across.
LOL, the saddest thing about you is you've completely negated even trying to make a point and have resorted to pre-school insults and if that doesn't make my original point about you in then I don't know what would.
And the saddest thing about you (besides having no idea how to type a coherent thought), is that if you re-read everything quoted, you specificly ask for what is there to do at end game (I even highlight the question for you), say you didn't ask the question, insult me (saying I can't read) and then get upset when you get it back.
Well actually that might not be true. The saddest thing about you is probably the fact that you have so much free time to play EQ2, you've been able to finish every quest and level 2 toons beyond 40 when the game hasn't been out a year yet.
Originally posted by Jodokai Well actually that might not be true. The saddest thing about you is probably the fact that you have so much free time to play EQ2, you've been able to finish every quest and level 2 toons beyond 40 when the game hasn't been out a year yet.
Again, you've completely decided to relic yourself to the ghost of ten year old flame's past. Your so confused with your own thoughts that your stumbling around like that bully in the school yard that just figured out a girl beat him up: "Oh yeah, well oh yeah !, YOUR STUPID" pouts and runs home to mommy.
And if your going to flame someone, at the very least try to come up with something new and original, seriously your shit has been seen, judged for crap and dumped on. I mean, I have no problem if someone turns a thread into some personal proclamation of testostorone on me but AT THE VERY LEAST stop boring me and come up with something different.
Originally posted by Jodokai Well actually that might not be true. The saddest thing about you is probably the fact that you have so much free time to play EQ2, you've been able to finish every quest and level 2 toons beyond 40 when the game hasn't been out a year yet.
Again, you've completely decided to relic yourself to the ghost of ten year old flame's past. Your so confused with your own thoughts that your stumbling around like that bully in the school yard that just figured out a girl beat him up: "Oh yeah, well oh yeah !, YOUR STUPID" pouts and runs home to mommy.
And if your going to flame someone, at the very least try to come up with something new and original, seriously your shit has been seen, judged for crap and dumped on. I mean, I have no problem if someone turns a thread into some personal proclamation of testostorone on me but AT THE VERY LEAST stop boring me and come up with something different.
Actually what happened is that you tried to show off about how great you are at EQ2! Nobody likes a show off and as much as some of the sad members of this forum will run to your defense because you are female, nobody is interested in how fast you level etc. To me, the fact that you have to make these proclamations at all makes me think you are very young and/or very immature.
Originally posted by Noubourne One game gives you levels for not playing.Can you tell me what game I'm thinking of?Stop pretending EQ2 has the same low-commitment levelling speed that WoW has. It's just about right for most gamers, but anyone who's going to sit down 24/7 and grind is going to crank through to max level in ANY game.The point made about EQ2 forcing you to learn your class a bit before getting all the way to the top is a good one.Maybe you should do a little research before you spout off about "bonus experience", which almost everyone thinks is a good idea when not overdone. Keep in mind MMO players pay several hundred million dollars a year to buy pre-levelled characters so they don't even have to put the time in to do it the regular way.Is bonus XP supposed to be some indication of game difficulty? Not a very good indicator. And if that's your biggest beef with EQ2 and WoW, you need to get some perspective. There are plenty of things to be critical of, bonus XP is hardly worth the time to whine about.
Wow, someone woke up in cranky land this morning.
Actually I like EQ II and WoW a lot. If you read any of my posts you'll see that. I think bonus Xp is a great thing. I was just trying to make the point that like WoW, EQ II makes this concession to the casual gamer. EQ II is not some sort of hardcore grindfest. It's almost as easy to level as WoW, in my opinion. I can hit 20 in about 25-30% more time in EQ II than it takes me in WoW. That is pretty fast compared to most games.
EQ II does have a lot more depth than WoW in a lot of respects. EQ II has better crafting, greater variety of classes, more races, more character customization, better instances. It does a ton of things better than WoW. But this whole issues about WoW being "too easy" because you can level quickly is just silly. You can level almost as fast in EQ II (at least I can, I don't know about you guys). But by all means, if you want to go on pretending that it takes 3-4x as long to hit max level in EQ II, don't let me stop you.
Peace, out.
I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.
Actually what happened is that you tried to show off about how great you are at EQ2! Nobody likes a show off and as much as some of the sad members of this forum will run to your defense because you are female, nobody is interested in how fast you level etc. To me, the fact that you have to make these proclamations at all makes me think you are very young and/or very immature. S
LOL my god, are you even reading the thread anymore, or are you just so desperate to flame that your just making it up as it goes. The only time leveling in EQ2 has ever come up was after YOU stated that WoW is a less "serious" mmo because you can level quickly, to which I replied you can do the same thing in EQ2. Yes with a suffecient amount of time anyone can level to 50 quickly in EQ2 as they can with WoW but apparently because I used the I in a retorical answer it was enough for you to think that I was showing off and now you're calling who immature ?
Seriously are you just so round about unhappy with your life that you have to start picking appart absolutely everything in some vain attempt to make yourself look smarter, even at the expensive of comming off as completely lost ? Because sincerely, calling me young and immature in the same sentence as saying that the only reason someone supported me is because I'm female.... WOW talk about a mind blow ! Are you so intemidated by a female that doesn't back off from you right away that your willing to use that as an excuse for your lack of common sense ?
Anyways, I'm going to appologize to both you and Jodokai right now because I simply should have never played into the flame bait in the first place and at this point, it's just getting silly.
WoW did this discussion ever get derailed. I think everyone should kindly agree that they have one favorite game over another. Perhaps when EQ2 becomes older they will add some new things that make it more fun an exciting. I am still going to play it, however I think I will take a few weeks off to relax and remember what I loved about it. Meanwhile I will visit WOW and COH as off shoot games. WoW for the leveling Fantasy Experience, and COH for the nuke the piss outa something and get rid of agression feeling. I hope to see some excellent changes in EQ2 soon, that will make people love it even more. We can hope.
RCDTEAR
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Well this has nothing to do with the original post and all you can manage to do is attack me personally and the only reason you have at this point is your personal distaste for WoW and HAVING to be right. I'll just have to agree to dissagree with you that just because YOU say so is enough reason for WoW to suck.
These forums are a celebration of everyone's oppinions brought into one melting pan for others to enjoy, question and comment upon. I'm still completely amazed by people that are so closed minded and can have such a hard time to come up with anything credible that they have to critisize other people personally.
rcdgear I appologize for my own part in steering your thread way off course.
Oh relax, thats hardly what I would deem a personal attack, just pointing something out was all ... I also apologize for de-railing the thread and will not post off topic anymore.
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Flambait removed. Turn the other cheek and all that. Have a nice day.
I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.
LOL Yeebo I was about to, but you removed it and I forgot
. Oh now I remember! HEHE sorry but EQ2 is harder than WoW. Have you played WoW? People get to level 60 without a SINGLE clue as to how their class fits in to a group. And this isn't just one or two people, this is literally thronging masses of people who have no clue how to play their class at level 60.
EQ2 punishes you into learning what your classes role is. I like that.
EDIT: btw Shae I enjoy your posts and keep up the good work, anyone with an unjaundiced eye agrees with you.
And no I'm not hitting on her lol my gf is watching over my shoulder 
I have played both. In a less inflamatorry manner let me give you an idea of where I'm coming from.
In terms of speed of levelling I'd say WoW and EQ II are pretty similar. Unless of course (heaven forbid) you play a Scout class in EQ II. Then it's a ton harder from about 20 on in EQ II. In terms of class roles in a party, EQ II does take more skill for most classes. However, I'd argue that holding aggro takes more skill for a WoW warrior that for a EQ II fighter class (Warriors don't get any really reliable taunts in WoW, it's a real bitch). I fact I'd argue that Warriors and possibly Druids in WoW are much deeper than the average EQ II class (if they add stances in the combat exapansion, as they are talking about, EQ II tanks will catch up the the WoW warrior in terms of depth and skill needed to be effective).
Crafting, EQ II just kicks WoW in the jimmy and never lets it get up. I quit WoW after three months because the crafting bit, and I've played EQ II since then because the crafting is so deep.
However, overall, I just don't think EQ II is very hard. I think it's pretty silly to be completley impressed with yourself for preferring EQ II to WoW. It's like thinking you're a stud because you prefer tick-tac-toe to go-fish. Yeah, it takes a litlle more skill . . .but not that much in the grand scheme of things.
I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.
LOL, the saddest thing about you is you've completely negated even trying to make a point and have resorted to pre-school insults and if that doesn't make my original point about you in then I don't know what would.
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EQ2 punishes you into learning what your classes role is. I like that.
And that is precisely what makes it a poor game compared to EQ1 which allowed for certain classes to find their own way through the game solo if they wished. Players could choose to solo to 65 or to group to 65 or whatever mix of grouping soloing they wanted. Taking away player choice is a BAD thing not a good thing.
Of the ten or so bards I knew who moved from EQ1 to EQ2 one is still playing most had given up by Christmas. I gave up at level 22 one week into the release which funnily enough is exactly how long I lasted in the beta.
Forcing people to group doesn't make a game harder, just more irritating as so much time is wasted. It seems strange that WoW took everything good from EQ and made it better and EQ2 took everything poor in EQ and made it worse.
Unlike in EQ's time there are just too many other games around for a second rate product to survive.
To the original poster my response would be play more than one game, personally I play several though only in one month intervals. It does help to not get bored of any game in particular though.
--Nyture, Arc Convoker of fironia vie server (EQ) --Retired--
-- Nytur 39 Conjuror of Lucan D'lere (Quit due to low populations)
-- Currently playing WoW while waiting for vanguard
Explorer 66%
Socializer 60%
Killer 53%
Achiever 20%
PLEASE SOE MAKE A CLASSIC EQ SERVER. Shadow of luclin was a prick in EQs side. PoP Was a gun to the face.
--Nyture, Arc Convoker of fironia vie server (EQ) --Retired--
-- Nytur 39 Conjuror of Lucan D'lere (Quit due to low populations)
-- Currently playing WoW while waiting for vanguard
Explorer 66%
Socializer 60%
Killer 53%
Achiever 20%
PLEASE SOE MAKE A CLASSIC EQ SERVER. Shadow of luclin was a prick in EQs side. PoP Was a gun to the face.
Completely untrue, while EQ 2 is way faster than EQ 1 in terms of levelling, it is nowhere close to WoW. I got to lvl 23 in just under 3 days. You can't do that in EQ 2.
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Of current MMO's, EQ 2 easily has the most content!
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Completely untrue, while EQ 2 is way faster than EQ 1 in terms of levelling, it is nowhere close to WoW. I got to lvl 23 in just under 3 days. You can't do that in EQ 2.
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That is not true either in EQ1 you can hit level 70 in ten days (level 40 in 40 hours is about average for me these days and they are making it easier all the time), in EQ2 you can hit level 15 in one day on your own from scratch so level 23 in 3 days doesn't seem so impossible.
The point is if you play for 16+ hours a day, that is more than the developers work, it is no wonder you run out of content as you play faster than the developers can write.
Completely untrue, while EQ 2 is way faster than EQ 1 in terms of levelling, it is nowhere close to WoW. I got to lvl 23 in just under 3 days. You can't do that in EQ 2.
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That is not true either in EQ1 you can hit level 70 in ten days (level 40 in 40 hours is about average for me these days and they are making it easier all the time), in EQ2 you can hit level 15 in one day on your own from scratch so level 23 in 3 days doesn't seem so impossible.
The point is if you play for 16+ hours a day, that is more than the developers work, it is no wonder you run out of content as you play faster than the developers can write.
Exploiting doesnt count mmmmk! You cannot get to level 70 in EQ 1 in 10 days without exploiting. And if I had played WoW for 16 hours a day, I would have been level 60 in 3 days.
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One of the reasons that leveling is so easy in WoW is because of the "rested bonus." Basically, if you are a casual gamer your get double Xp for everything you kill. It's designed to make the game less challenging for casual gamers. A hardcore gamer has to play more than twice as much as a casual gamer to level more quickly.
There is only one other game I can think of that has this system, which is designed soley to make the game easier for the average player. Do you know what game I'm thinking of?
I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.
One game gives you levels for not playing.
Can you tell me what game I'm thinking of?
Stop pretending EQ2 has the same low-commitment levelling speed that WoW has. It's just about right for most gamers, but anyone who's going to sit down 24/7 and grind is going to crank through to max level in ANY game.
The point made about EQ2 forcing you to learn your class a bit before getting all the way to the top is a good one.
Maybe you should do a little research before you spout off about "bonus experience", which almost everyone thinks is a good idea when not overdone. Keep in mind MMO players pay several hundred million dollars a year to buy pre-levelled characters so they don't even have to put the time in to do it the regular way.
Is bonus XP supposed to be some indication of game difficulty? Not a very good indicator. And if that's your biggest beef with EQ2 and WoW, you need to get some perspective. There are plenty of things to be critical of, bonus XP is hardly worth the time to whine about.
Habit is not to be flung out the window by any man, but coaxed down the stairs one step at a time. - Mark Twain
LOL, the saddest thing about you is you've completely negated even trying to make a point and have resorted to pre-school insults and if that doesn't make my original point about you in then I don't know what would.
And the saddest thing about you (besides having no idea how to type a coherent thought), is that if you re-read everything quoted, you specificly ask for what is there to do at end game (I even highlight the question for you), say you didn't ask the question, insult me (saying I can't read) and then get upset when you get it back.
Well actually that might not be true. The saddest thing about you is probably the fact that you have so much free time to play EQ2, you've been able to finish every quest and level 2 toons beyond 40 when the game hasn't been out a year yet.
Again, you've completely decided to relic yourself to the ghost of ten year old flame's past. Your so confused with your own thoughts that your stumbling around like that bully in the school yard that just figured out a girl beat him up: "Oh yeah, well oh yeah !, YOUR STUPID" pouts and runs home to mommy.
And if your going to flame someone, at the very least try to come up with something new and original, seriously your shit has been seen, judged for crap and dumped on. I mean, I have no problem if someone turns a thread into some personal proclamation of testostorone on me but AT THE VERY LEAST stop boring me and come up with something different.
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Again, you've completely decided to relic yourself to the ghost of ten year old flame's past. Your so confused with your own thoughts that your stumbling around like that bully in the school yard that just figured out a girl beat him up: "Oh yeah, well oh yeah !, YOUR STUPID" pouts and runs home to mommy.
And if your going to flame someone, at the very least try to come up with something new and original, seriously your shit has been seen, judged for crap and dumped on. I mean, I have no problem if someone turns a thread into some personal proclamation of testostorone on me but AT THE VERY LEAST stop boring me and come up with something different.
Actually what happened is that you tried to show off about how great you are at EQ2! Nobody likes a show off and as much as some of the sad members of this forum will run to your defense because you are female, nobody is interested in how fast you level etc. To me, the fact that you have to make these proclamations at all makes me think you are very young and/or very immature.
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Wow, someone woke up in cranky land this morning.
Actually I like EQ II and WoW a lot. If you read any of my posts you'll see that. I think bonus Xp is a great thing. I was just trying to make the point that like WoW, EQ II makes this concession to the casual gamer. EQ II is not some sort of hardcore grindfest. It's almost as easy to level as WoW, in my opinion. I can hit 20 in about 25-30% more time in EQ II than it takes me in WoW. That is pretty fast compared to most games.
EQ II does have a lot more depth than WoW in a lot of respects. EQ II has better crafting, greater variety of classes, more races, more character customization, better instances. It does a ton of things better than WoW. But this whole issues about WoW being "too easy" because you can level quickly is just silly. You can level almost as fast in EQ II (at least I can, I don't know about you guys). But by all means, if you want to go on pretending that it takes 3-4x as long to hit max level in EQ II, don't let me stop you.
Peace, out.
I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.
LOL my god, are you even reading the thread anymore, or are you just so desperate to flame that your just making it up as it goes. The only time leveling in EQ2 has ever come up was after YOU stated that WoW is a less "serious" mmo because you can level quickly, to which I replied you can do the same thing in EQ2. Yes with a suffecient amount of time anyone can level to 50 quickly in EQ2 as they can with WoW but apparently because I used the I in a retorical answer it was enough for you to think that I was showing off and now you're calling who immature ?
Seriously are you just so round about unhappy with your life that you have to start picking appart absolutely everything in some vain attempt to make yourself look smarter, even at the expensive of comming off as completely lost ? Because sincerely, calling me young and immature in the same sentence as saying that the only reason someone supported me is because I'm female.... WOW talk about a mind blow ! Are you so intemidated by a female that doesn't back off from you right away that your willing to use that as an excuse for your lack of common sense ?
Anyways, I'm going to appologize to both you and Jodokai right now because I simply should have never played into the flame bait in the first place and at this point, it's just getting silly.
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WoW did this discussion ever get derailed. I think everyone should kindly agree that they have one favorite game over another. Perhaps when EQ2 becomes older they will add some new things that make it more fun an exciting. I am still going to play it, however I think I will take a few weeks off to relax and remember what I loved about it. Meanwhile I will visit WOW and COH as off shoot games. WoW for the leveling Fantasy Experience, and COH for the nuke the piss outa something and get rid of agression feeling. I hope to see some excellent changes in EQ2 soon, that will make people love it even more. We can hope.
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