Why i quit EQ2

scaramoosh · July 2005

The game is great and all but ever since launch the populations have been dropping and dropping. Since all that server mess ups they did with the Euero servers alot of people left because of that or play on US server making the Euro servers empty!

Now we have to install the game twice just to be able to play on the US and Euro servers and that makes Runnyeye and Splitpaw even more empty!
Everyone knows because of WOW the populations have dropped by sooo much and mmogchart seems to think by 100k-150k and i understand that cause even i was disappointed in the game.

The game seemed to be soo much fun in beta when i didn't know much about the game and how bad it plays, feels like the dev's wanted to leave out the fun! Also the populations were soo massive on them servers in beta and Antonica used to be called lagtonica because sometimes you can be playing and get like 5 min lag spikes Everyone used team work and you could easily get a group!

I really predict this game going down the pan because low levels can't get a group as everyones high level! So they'll quit and be bored of the game.
Also with the current server populations being soo low i can never find a group to do what i want at lvl 30-40 zones! Theres like 2 people in the cities which are empty and 10 people in each zone and thats just horrible and i liked the feel back in beta when the game was populated!

SUM: I quit the game because the server populations are soo low and i can't get a group. Not sure bout your server but the Euro servers are empty and i don't really wanna play with Americans i wanna play with peopel from the UK.

SUM P2: Went to WOW because i can always get a group at all hours of the day!

Nihilanth · July 2005

ok. bye.

snazzy · July 2005

You have to remember that exchange server's just started, a bold move on soe's part but we have to wait to see how it all works out .

You can always tell a games target player base by the convention, Eq2 went to Las Vegas ans WoW went to Disneyland.

Sharkypal · July 2005

Originally posted by scaramoosh

The game is great and all but ever since launch the populations have been dropping and dropping. Since all that server mess ups they did with the Euero servers alot of people left because of that or play on US server making the Euro servers empty!
Now we have to install the game twice just to be able to play on the US and Euro servers and that makes Runnyeye and Splitpaw even more empty!
Everyone knows because of WOW the populations have dropped by sooo much and mmogchart seems to think by 100k-150k and i understand that cause even i was disappointed in the game.
The game seemed to be soo much fun in beta when i didn't know much about the game and how bad it plays, feels like the dev's wanted to leave out the fun! Also the populations were soo massive on them servers in beta and Antonica used to be called lagtonica because sometimes you can be playing and get like 5 min lag spikes Everyone used team work and you could easily get a group!

I really predict this game going down the pan because low levels can't get a group as everyones high level! So they'll quit and be bored of the game.
Also with the current server populations being soo low i can never find a group to do what i want at lvl 30-40 zones! Theres like 2 people in the cities which are empty and 10 people in each zone and thats just horrible and i liked the feel back in beta when the game was populated!

SUM: I quit the game because the server populations are soo low and i can't get a group. Not sure bout your server but the Euro servers are empty and i don't really wanna play with Americans i wanna play with peopel from the UK.
SUM P2: Went to WOW because i can always get a group at all hours of the day!

I'm on Runnyeye and the population is far from low. I get a group every night with or wothout my guild.

Oh yeah ... Bye Bye!!

S

Lanmoragon · July 2005

And is there somebody here who cares that your quitting? Dont need to make a post when you quit a game...

Laneo · August 2005

Originally posted by scaramoosh

The game is great and all but ever since launch the populations have been dropping and dropping. Since all that server mess ups they did with the Euero servers alot of people left because of that or play on US server making the Euro servers empty!
Now we have to install the game twice just to be able to play on the US and Euro servers and that makes Runnyeye and Splitpaw even more empty!
Everyone knows because of WOW the populations have dropped by sooo much and mmogchart seems to think by 100k-150k and i understand that cause even i was disappointed in the game.
The game seemed to be soo much fun in beta when i didn't know much about the game and how bad it plays, feels like the dev's wanted to leave out the fun! Also the populations were soo massive on them servers in beta and Antonica used to be called lagtonica because sometimes you can be playing and get like 5 min lag spikes Everyone used team work and you could easily get a group!

I really predict this game going down the pan because low levels can't get a group as everyones high level! So they'll quit and be bored of the game.
Also with the current server populations being soo low i can never find a group to do what i want at lvl 30-40 zones! Theres like 2 people in the cities which are empty and 10 people in each zone and thats just horrible and i liked the feel back in beta when the game was populated!

SUM: I quit the game because the server populations are soo low and i can't get a group. Not sure bout your server but the Euro servers are empty and i don't really wanna play with Americans i wanna play with peopel from the UK.
SUM P2: Went to WOW because i can always get a group at all hours of the day!

1. 12 yr olds need to goto WoW

2. EQ2 is meant for people that put an effort into the game. There is no "I WIN" button in EQ2 like there is in WoW (I played a mage to level 60, TWICE in WoW so I can talk). That why there are not many people in EQ2 atm, but it is growing again with recent patches ect that made it more enjoyable to play.

3. Whats wrong with Americans?

4. Bye

darquenblade · August 2005

Originally posted by scaramoosh

The game is great and all but ever since launch the populations have been dropping and dropping. Since all that server mess ups they did with the Euero servers alot of people left because of that or play on US server making the Euro servers empty!
Now we have to install the game twice just to be able to play on the US and Euro servers and that makes Runnyeye and Splitpaw even more empty!
Everyone knows because of WOW the populations have dropped by sooo much and mmogchart seems to think by 100k-150k and i understand that cause even i was disappointed in the game.
The game seemed to be soo much fun in beta when i didn't know much about the game and how bad it plays, feels like the dev's wanted to leave out the fun! Also the populations were soo massive on them servers in beta and Antonica used to be called lagtonica because sometimes you can be playing and get like 5 min lag spikes Everyone used team work and you could easily get a group!

I really predict this game going down the pan because low levels can't get a group as everyones high level! So they'll quit and be bored of the game.
Also with the current server populations being soo low i can never find a group to do what i want at lvl 30-40 zones! Theres like 2 people in the cities which are empty and 10 people in each zone and thats just horrible and i liked the feel back in beta when the game was populated!

SUM: I quit the game because the server populations are soo low and i can't get a group. Not sure bout your server but the Euro servers are empty and i don't really wanna play with Americans i wanna play with peopel from the UK.
SUM P2: Went to WOW because i can always get a group at all hours of the day!

On one hand, you complain about low populations and never being able to find a group, then on the other hand you say you only want to play with people from the UK. Sounds like your problem is entirely your own and you don't want to solve it. Bye. It's not EQ2's fault that you're picky.

Kem0sabe · August 2005

Why do you people still say the EQ2 is for "grown ups" and WoW is for "kids", why do you all keep saying that EQ2 has no "i Win" button? I am in no way a WoW fan, i quit it recently because of the community, but to say that EQ2 is so much different and better is just anoying as hell, EQ2 has basicly the same gameplay as WoW with the exception of the crafting system, everything else is givin to you in a silver platter, how can someone say that a game is harcore when you have a silver line directing you to any npc in a zone you wish to find? the quest system is identical to WoW´s quest system but without the exclamation points, instead the npc´s hail you over with the same anoying speech each time you pass them, the quests in themselfs are very very similar between the 2 games. Mob difficulty is about the same, in WoW you fight small ammounts of mobs that grow in power as you progress from zone to zone, Eq2 relies on large groups of mobs to give you a chalange. Grinding, in eq2 you have to grind to get levels, its easier than questing and it pays better in terms of loot, you grind gnolls in antonica, you grind giants in the thundering stepes, you grind... you get my idea, in WoW you grind quests, same quests different names from zone to zone, gets boring fast in both games.

Speaking of classes and there be no "I win" button, then why is SOE doing a major combat revamp in the line of the SWG CU? why are healing classes beeing completly reworked? why is the difficulty level of encounters beeing completly reedone to be harder? this is all from SOE´s words. Because when you get down to it, PVE combat in eq2 is easier than combat in WoW, in WoW tanks have to know what their doing, they have to use different stances, different taunts and do their job well, in eq2? PVE combat is a joke, its easy, its repetitive and the class diferences between each of the healer classes are a joke, as well as "unique" classes within each of the arquitypes.

Basicly these 2 mmorpg´s are the introduction level products of the mmorpg market, look in SOE game catelog and you have SWG and EQ as much more complete and difficult games, altough im not a fan of SWG myself. WoW is blizzards first mmorpg, they didnt want to take any risks, so they produced a dumbed down version of EQ wich is what EQ2 basicly is.

All im saying is that i respect everyones choice of game and more power to you, but to taunt eq2 over wow as beeing the more mature product is just borderline idiotic.

Wickes · August 2005

I'm not convinced that server population is falling, at least not on my server, Mistmoore, and I don't see why it wouldn't be a typical example.

Several months ago I did a /who all through the level ranges and found around 1100 people online at 11:00 p.m. MST (1:00 a.m. EST), which is fairly late for a weekday. At that time I also picked two other servers at random and got a similar result. And that was before offline selling, which has truly eliminated a LOT of toons being left online 24/7.

Last week I did the same thing on Mistmoore, and got almost the same number at the same time. And this is AFTER the introduction of offline selling.

I also recently decided to make a Sage. While I was leveling him up I was making and selling a large number of low spells. Basically, they all sold within a few hours. Somebody was buying these. I'm now making 20s level spells, and they are going like hotcakes too.

I think people are just spread around a large number of zones now, as a result of which there do seem to be fewer people in some zones. Also have to say that zones like TS, Nek, Zek, EL, and Ferrott and quite busy whenever I am in them.

Noubourne · August 2005

In what language is "down the pan" a colloqualism for "down the drain"?

Also, bye. Don't let the door hit ya...

Aedosen · August 2005

Originally posted by Wickes
I'm not convinced that server population is falling, at least not on my server, Mistmoore, and I don't see why it wouldn't be a typical example.
Several months ago I did a /who all through the level ranges and found around 1100 people online at 11:00 p.m. MST (1:00 a.m. EST), which is fairly late for a weekday. At that time I also picked two other servers at random and got a similar result. And that was before offline selling, which has truly eliminated a LOT of toons being left online 24/7.
Last week I did the same thing on Mistmoore, and got almost the same number at the same time. And this is AFTER the introduction of offline selling.
I also recently decided to make a Sage. While I was leveling him up I was making and selling a large number of low spells. Basically, they all sold within a few hours. Somebody was buying these. I'm now making 20s level spells, and they are going like hotcakes too.
I think people are just spread around a large number of zones now, as a result of which there do seem to be fewer people in some zones. Also have to say that zones like TS, Nek, Zek, EL, and Ferrott and quite busy whenever I am in them.

Someone has been doing that /who all in Splitpaw too and the numbers are actually rising plus it was around 1500 the last he did it. Splitpaw is far from empty actually I think its one of most populated servers there is.

Thunder- · August 2005

I agree. I love this game!!! i can see myself playing it non-stop for days, but there is no one EVER on. Im not in a guild so its like playing an rpg. *sigh* if it also had as many ppl as WoW has.

thunder-

scaramoosh · August 2005

typical EQ2 rude community

LOL is there 2 Splitpaw servers? Like 10 peopel in a zone on peak times isn't populated :S

anarchyart · August 2005

Originally posted by scaramoosh

typical EQ2 rude community

LOL is there 2 Splitpaw servers? Like 10 peopel in a zone on peak times isn't populated :S

That really depends what zone, scara.

Please scaramoosh, your posts used to be funny and intelligent and added levity and some information to the threads you posted on. Lately though it seems they are all trolls. Please, I know you are a decent person. Find something you like and stop trolling everything that even mildly displeases you.

Ranma13 · August 2005

Originally posted by Exnor009Your the kid who said has a wife and job and lvled to 60 WoW in 19 days...your just a fagget anyway and as for...
3.What wrong with Americans?
NORTH Americans...and SOME of them are imature idiots...im not saying the country suks of course not...im saying its the land of the FAT people and idiots

Case of the pot calling the kettle black?

I don't mind people saying that they quit a game, as long as they provide plausible reasons. However, the OP says that the servers are empty and it's hard for him to get a group. Frankly, I don't know what server he plays on but he might do well to consider a server change.

And just because you CAN get a group on WoW, does that mean you will? That game is a massive solo-fest, you can solo up to level 60 without ever having to group once except for the instances. I for one have never had problems getting groups in EQ2, there's always 40-70 people in all the adventuring zones. And as for people in the cities, they're either all tradeskilling (meaning they don't show up on /who) or they're just passing by or taking care of something. Who wants to idle in the city anyway when there's stuff to do elsewhere?

Nihilanth · August 2005

i see a lock in this thread's near future

moonfog · August 2005

Well unlike most ppl I allways find it sad when people that generaly enjoy the game but feel "bumped" out due to low population.

I belive that Desert of Flames will pull new people in. I have even shown the video to several WoW playing friends and they all became very interested (only down side is they need to buy the main game AND FoD).

About the low levels : Well if you are a part of a good guild most will gladly help you out and mentor you. I myself dont have any problems, but Im a more relaxed player and dont see leveling as part of the game. I like the adventure and doing as many quests as I can, chill out in the city etc.

I sometime feel like you (main poster) do but I stick to it and realise its not really that bad. What I have found out is that EQ2 has alot of older players, and play mainly on the weekends.

I play alot and am on Runnyeye server as well. Dont know what lvlel you are but will gladly team up with ya. Send me a mail here if you want.

But I am shocked at the rude relpys here. We are a community in the same game ppl! We are supposed to be supportive!

moonfog · August 2005

EDIT: Woops. sry dobble post.

Tannayr · August 2005

Originally posted by Kem0sabe

Why do you people still say the EQ2 is for "grown ups" and WoW is for "kids", why do you all keep saying that EQ2 has no "i Win" button? I am in no way a WoW fan, i quit it recently because of the community, but to say that EQ2 is so much different and better is just anoying as hell, EQ2 has basicly the same gameplay as WoW with the exception of the crafting system, everything else is givin to you in a silver platter, how can someone say that a game is harcore when you have a silver line directing you to any npc in a zone you wish to find? the quest system is identical to WoW´s quest system but without the exclamation points, instead the npc´s hail you over with the same anoying speech each time you pass them, the quests in themselfs are very very similar between the 2 games. Mob difficulty is about the same, in WoW you fight small ammounts of mobs that grow in power as you progress from zone to zone, Eq2 relies on large groups of mobs to give you a chalange. Grinding, in eq2 you have to grind to get levels, its easier than questing and it pays better in terms of loot, you grind gnolls in antonica, you grind giants in the thundering stepes, you grind... you get my idea, in WoW you grind quests, same quests different names from zone to zone, gets boring fast in both games.
Speaking of classes and there be no "I win" button, then why is SOE doing a major combat revamp in the line of the SWG CU? why are healing classes beeing completly reworked? why is the difficulty level of encounters beeing completly reedone to be harder? this is all from SOE´s words. Because when you get down to it, PVE combat in eq2 is easier than combat in WoW, in WoW tanks have to know what their doing, they have to use different stances, different taunts and do their job well, in eq2? PVE combat is a joke, its easy, its repetitive and the class diferences between each of the healer classes are a joke, as well as "unique" classes within each of the arquitypes.

Basicly these 2 mmorpg´s are the introduction level products of the mmorpg market, look in SOE game catelog and you have SWG and EQ as much more complete and difficult games, altough im not a fan of SWG myself. WoW is blizzards first mmorpg, they didnt want to take any risks, so they produced a dumbed down version of EQ wich is what EQ2 basicly is.
All im saying is that i respect everyones choice of game and more power to you, but to taunt eq2 over wow as beeing the more mature product is just borderline idiotic.

I am not going to respond to your whole post, just the part that states how WoW combat is harder than EQ2 combat. That is a joke, I played both games, and had a lvl 60 warrior in WoW, had a lvl 20 guardian in EQ2, did't get as far in EQ2 because of my work and school schedules. Anyways, any class could tank in WoW, hell at times every character in my groups would be fighting a mob by themselves and we would come out just fine. The reason it may seem harder in WoW is most of it's players are new to the genre and do not know how to properly play and build their characters, so therefore it seems like you need a tank who knows what he is doing. Trust me if everyone knows what they are doing you don't even need a good tank. So neither is actually or factually harder, it is all a matter of opinion, your play style and the ability of your group.

I am a fanboy of neither game, and at the time play neither game, and neither game is my favorite MMORPG of all time, however I also have to agree that EQ2 does hold a much more mature community than WoW, but this all depends on the server you play on and the time of day you play. But anyways, just my thought on it.

Lildemonmzin · August 2005

Originally posted by Exnor009

Originally posted by Laneo

Originally posted by scaramoosh

The game is great and all but ever since launch the populations have been dropping and dropping. Since all that server mess ups they did with the Euero servers alot of people left because of that or play on US server making the Euro servers empty!
Now we have to install the game twice just to be able to play on the US and Euro servers and that makes Runnyeye and Splitpaw even more empty!
Everyone knows because of WOW the populations have dropped by sooo much and mmogchart seems to think by 100k-150k and i understand that cause even i was disappointed in the game.
The game seemed to be soo much fun in beta when i didn't know much about the game and how bad it plays, feels like the dev's wanted to leave out the fun! Also the populations were soo massive on them servers in beta and Antonica used to be called lagtonica because sometimes you can be playing and get like 5 min lag spikes Everyone used team work and you could easily get a group!

I really predict this game going down the pan because low levels can't get a group as everyones high level! So they'll quit and be bored of the game.
Also with the current server populations being soo low i can never find a group to do what i want at lvl 30-40 zones! Theres like 2 people in the cities which are empty and 10 people in each zone and thats just horrible and i liked the feel back in beta when the game was populated!

SUM: I quit the game because the server populations are soo low and i can't get a group. Not sure bout your server but the Euro servers are empty and i don't really wanna play with Americans i wanna play with peopel from the UK.
SUM P2: Went to WOW because i can always get a group at all hours of the day!

1. 12 yr olds need to goto WoW

2. EQ2 is meant for people that put an effort into the game. There is no "I WIN" button in EQ2 like there is in WoW (I played a mage to level 60, TWICE in WoW so I can talk). That why there are not many people in EQ2 atm, but it is growing again with recent patches ect that made it more enjoyable to play.

3. Whats wrong with Americans?

4. Bye

Your the kid who said has a wife and job and lvled to 60 WoW in 19 days...your just a fagget anyway and as for...

3.What wrong with Americans?

NORTH Americans...and SOME of them are imature idiots...im not saying the country suks of course not...im saying its the land of the FAT people and idiots

Im not insulting EQ2 its actually better then WoW but does it have really low population these days??

OMG you guys are so immature. "I mean He's A faggot" "Americans are fat idiots" thats the kind of mentality we can do without on this planet. So what, they are just games. doesnt matter what anyone thinks. I think most of you people who get upset need to log out for awhile and experience some real world drama. I think EQ2 is a console gamers game. there you have it!!

Oh by the way if you see your mom this weekend would you be sure and tell her SATAN, SATAN, SATAN!!

Jodokai · August 2005

Originally posted by Kem0sabe

Why do you people still say the EQ2 is for "grown ups" and WoW is for "kids",
It has to do with the community. You even said you quit because of the community. It also has to do with the ease at whcih you can play and level. Everything is easier with WoW. I'm not saying it's a bad thing (obviously it's not look at the numbers).
why do you all keep saying that EQ2 has no "i Win" button? I am in no way a WoW fan, i quit it recently because of the community, but to say that EQ2 is so much different and better is just anoying as hell, EQ2 has basicly the same gameplay as WoW with the exception of the crafting system, everything else is givin to you in a silver platter, how can someone say that a game is harcore when you have a silver line directing you to any npc in a zone you wish to find?
Actually it's a gold line, but the quests are much harder. No waypoint, and are much more vague. EQ2 hardly hands everything to you on a silver platter. If you don't use OOC chat to ask where everything is, it's actually pretty difficult.
the quest system is identical to WoW´s quest system but without the exclamation points, instead the npc´s hail you over with the same anoying speech each time you pass them,
You can turn this off so they only say it once. I for one like the option of either hearing the Voice Overs or not, since in most games the only option you have is to not hear them.
the quests in themselfs are very very similar between the 2 games. Mob difficulty is about the same, in WoW you fight small ammounts of mobs that grow in power as you progress from zone to zone, Eq2 relies on large groups of mobs to give you a chalange. Grinding, in eq2 you have to grind to get levels, its easier than questing and it pays better in terms of loot,
Actually this is VERY not true. It is much more effecient to level doing quests. You get tons of XP from even the low level "FedEx" quests. I've gone from level 12-15 just doing the quests in the starter towns.
you grind gnolls in antonica, you grind giants in the thundering stepes, you grind... you get my idea, in WoW you grind quests, same quests different names from zone to zone, gets boring fast in both games.
TO each their own. If you take the time to read the quests and get into the story you actually find they're quite involving (in both games).
Speaking of classes and there be no "I win" button, then why is SOE doing a major combat revamp in the line of the SWG CU? why are healing classes beeing completly reworked? why is the difficulty level of encounters beeing completly reedone to be harder? this is all from SOE´s words.
I love the exaggerations and rumors that fly around here. Now someone else is going to read that and think it's true and pass it on. They are reducing the amount of damage a Healer can do. How is that ANYTHING like the SWG CU?
Because when you get down to it, PVE combat in eq2 is easier than combat in WoW, in WoW tanks have to know what their doing, they have to use different stances, different taunts and do their job well, in eq2? PVE combat is a joke, its easy, its repetitive and the class diferences between each of the healer classes are a joke, as well as "unique" classes within each of the arquitypes.
This is such a blatent lie it makes me wonder if you're not just a rabid WoW fanatic, or you've just never played EQ2. A tank in EQ2 is MUCH more involved than WoW. The EQ2's version of Hunter/Rogue's are MUCH harder to play. In a group, tactics is very much a part of the game, which is just not the case in WoW. The only thing that happens is the Tank taunts and everyone else wacks away.

Basicly these 2 mmorpg´s are the introduction level products of the mmorpg market, look in SOE game catelog and you have SWG and EQ as much more complete and difficult games, altough im not a fan of SWG myself. WoW is blizzards first mmorpg, they didnt want to take any risks, so they produced a dumbed down version of EQ wich is what EQ2 basicly is.
Actaully EQ2 has been dumbed down to compete with WoW. It didn't start off that way. Calling SWG more complete than EQ2 made me laugh so hard milk came out my nose.
All im saying is that i respect everyones choice of game and more power to you, but to taunt eq2 over wow as beeing the more mature product is just borderline idiotic.
Again, look at the demographic. Sure there are butt-heads in all games, but in WoW I have to search for someone I woudln't mind grouping with, in EQ2 I have to search for someone I don't want to group with. As you've said you quit because of the community.
I mean, how can you not see in WoW, the crafting is easier the leveling is faster. It's made for the "Why read the book when I can watch the movie" crowd. EQ2 didn't start off that way, they just changed it to compete.

Scaris · August 2005

Actually to expand on one point you made Jo, I have quested my paladin so far from level 1 to level 21. No grind time at all. It was very fast, made the game extremely pleasant, and it keeps my vitality peeked all the time. I always try to keep myself going on some quest or another so I don't get caught in the grind treadmill and make the game start to feel sour, and I have been very successful with that.

Kem0sabe · August 2005

Originally posted by Jodokai
Originally posted by Kem0sabe
Why do you people still say the EQ2 is for "grown ups" and WoW is for "kids",
It has to do with the community. You even said you quit because of the community. It also has to do with the ease at whcih you can play and level. Everything is easier with WoW. I'm not saying it's a bad thing (obviously it's not look at the numbers).Actualy, the rate at wich you level in wow is very similar to the rate you level in eq2, both give you bonus experience if you are in a "rested state", i figure it would take the same ammount of time to get to level 60 in wow and to get to level 50 in eq2.why do you all keep saying that EQ2 has no "i Win" button? I am in no way a WoW fan, i quit it recently because of the community, but to say that EQ2 is so much different and better is just anoying as hell, EQ2 has basicly the same gameplay as WoW with the exception of the crafting system, everything else is givin to you in a silver platter, how can someone say that a game is harcore when you have a silver line directing you to any npc in a zone you wish to find?
Actually it's a gold line, but the quests are much harder. No waypoint, and are much more vague. EQ2 hardly hands everything to you on a silver platter. If you don't use OOC chat to ask where everything is, it's actually pretty difficult.Hmm, i will disagree with you on that, you can get waypoints for every npc you need to find for a quest, the famous golden line, the ammount of fedex quests in eq2 is about 10x as many as wow(possible exageration, but they are many many more fedex quests in eq2 than in wow), and we all know how boring those types of quests can be, you just need to find a guard in a zone, no matter where he is and he points you to the npc you need to find, even if he is as far as 15 minute run. The difficulty is about the same. the quest system is identical to WoW´s quest system but without the exclamation points, instead the npc´s hail you over with the same anoying speech each time you pass them,
You can turn this off so they only say it once. I for one like the option of either hearing the Voice Overs or not, since in most games the only option you have is to not hear them.Was just to point out that both games have a mecanism to get the players atention toards any quest givers. the quests in themselfs are very very similar between the 2 games. Mob difficulty is about the same, in WoW you fight small ammounts of mobs that grow in power as you progress from zone to zone, Eq2 relies on large groups of mobs to give you a chalange. Grinding, in eq2 you have to grind to get levels, its easier than questing and it pays better in terms of loot,
Actually this is VERY not true. It is much more effecient to level doing quests. You get tons of XP from even the low level "FedEx" quests. I've gone from level 12-15 just doing the quests in the starter towns.Hmm, are you happy with you quest loot in eq2? do you feel the rewards are worth it? personaly from what i have played, i dont. after the starting villages, you will grind no matter what, its much faster than quests, the only reason ppl dont grind that much in wow is because the quest rewards are excelent, but at higher levels you will end up grinding all the same either grinding instances fo cash or humanoids for mageweave, etc.you grind gnolls in antonica, you grind giants in the thundering stepes, you grind... you get my idea, in WoW you grind quests, same quests different names from zone to zone, gets boring fast in both games.
TO each their own. If you take the time to read the quests and get into the story you actually find they're quite involving (in both games).Eq2 and WoW do not have a progressive sotry line in their quests, you dont feel like your part of something, you just go from zone to zone doing random tasks for npc´s, sometimes you do a quest chain, but it has no significance to the alliance/horde war wich is the central strugle in wow or the qeynos/freeport relationship in EQ2, otherwise, eq2 doesnt have a main storyline, at least i didnt get that feeling from playing the game.Speaking of classes and there be no "I win" button, then why is SOE doing a major combat revamp in the line of the SWG CU? why are healing classes beeing completly reworked? why is the difficulty level of encounters beeing completly reedone to be harder? this is all from SOE´s words.
I love the exaggerations and rumors that fly around here. Now someone else is going to read that and think it's true and pass it on. They are reducing the amount of damage a Healer can do. How is that ANYTHING like the SWG CU?From what i read in the forums they are doing a major reworking of the healer classes, its not limited to the ammount of dmg either, it involves every aspect of the class, they are doing a major revamp of encounter difficulty and balancing the pve content in general, in my view, those are major changes to the game.Because when you get down to it, PVE combat in eq2 is easier than combat in WoW, in WoW tanks have to know what their doing, they have to use different stances, different taunts and do their job well, in eq2? PVE combat is a joke, its easy, its repetitive and the class diferences between each of the healer classes are a joke, as well as "unique" classes within each of the arquitypes.
This is such a blatent lie it makes me wonder if you're not just a rabid WoW fanatic, or you've just never played EQ2. A tank in EQ2 is MUCH more involved than WoW. The EQ2's version of Hunter/Rogue's are MUCH harder to play. In a group, tactics is very much a part of the game, which is just not the case in WoW. The only thing that happens is the Tank taunts and everyone else wacks away.Not true, have you played a WoW character to high level? have you raided as a tank in WoW? Warriors in WoW are a much more demanding and complete class than any of the tanks in Eq2, at least i think so, you might disagree, but thats more of personal tastes we each have than anything else.
Considering group tactics, the ammount of people that plan their HO chains in Eq2 is minimal, group members just hit their HO without considering if the best choice is to let the healer complete his or the wizard to do more AOE bonus dmg and so on, so in the end it a slug fest, same happens with wow except in the later instances where team work is a must, if you dont do your job the group wipes, simple as that, same can be said from eq2, but in my view, pve combat is more satisfying in WoW.Basicly these 2 mmorpg´s are the introduction level products of the mmorpg market, look in SOE game catelog and you have SWG and EQ as much more complete and difficult games, altough im not a fan of SWG myself. WoW is blizzards first mmorpg, they didnt want to take any risks, so they produced a dumbed down version of EQ wich is what EQ2 basicly is.
Actaully EQ2 has been dumbed down to compete with WoW. It didn't start off that way. Calling SWG more complete than EQ2 made me laugh so hard milk came out my nose.Again, its a matter of personal preference, tho i canceled my SWG after the CU, i still feel that th crafting game in SWG is leaps and bounds superior to EQ2 in terms of visiual diference between the items, the variety of items and pretty much everything else, in terms of freedom, SWG had much much more than eq2, in eq2 you follow a progression of zones, you finish with a zone, you go to the next and so on, low level characters dont have multiple zones to choose to quest in, not talkking about the city of qeynos and its starting villages, when you leave qeynos, the only viable questing area is antonica, in SWG you have more choice.All im saying is that i respect everyones choice of game and more power to you, but to taunt eq2 over wow as beeing the more mature product is just borderline idiotic.
Again, look at the demographic. Sure there are butt-heads in all games, but in WoW I have to search for someone I woudln't mind grouping with, in EQ2 I have to search for someone I don't want to group with. As you've said you quit because of the community.And i did, WoW´s community is a joke if you cant find decent ppl to group with, but my arguments were about the games and their design, both are very similar if not the same at their core, eq2 has a better community, but its still as simplistic as is WoW.I mean, how can you not see in WoW, the crafting is easier the leveling is faster. It's made for the "Why read the book when I can watch the movie" crowd. EQ2 didn't start off that way, they just changed it to compete.So in the end, you feel the same way i do, eh? the EQ2 of today is as simple as WoW, they changed it to compete and they will keep making it an easier and easier game to play.

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shae · August 2005

Originally posted by scaramoosh

The game is great and all but ever since launch the populations have been dropping and dropping. Since all that server mess ups they did with the Euero servers alot of people left because of that or play on US server making the Euro servers empty!
Now we have to install the game twice just to be able to play on the US and Euro servers and that makes Runnyeye and Splitpaw even more empty!
Everyone knows because of WOW the populations have dropped by sooo much and mmogchart seems to think by 100k-150k and i understand that cause even i was disappointed in the game.
The game seemed to be soo much fun in beta when i didn't know much about the game and how bad it plays, feels like the dev's wanted to leave out the fun! Also the populations were soo massive on them servers in beta and Antonica used to be called lagtonica because sometimes you can be playing and get like 5 min lag spikes Everyone used team work and you could easily get a group!

I really predict this game going down the pan because low levels can't get a group as everyones high level! So they'll quit and be bored of the game.
Also with the current server populations being soo low i can never find a group to do what i want at lvl 30-40 zones! Theres like 2 people in the cities which are empty and 10 people in each zone and thats just horrible and i liked the feel back in beta when the game was populated!

SUM: I quit the game because the server populations are soo low and i can't get a group. Not sure bout your server but the Euro servers are empty and i don't really wanna play with Americans i wanna play with peopel from the UK.
SUM P2: Went to WOW because i can always get a group at all hours of the day!

Sweet lord, you were actually PLAYING EQ2 ? All I ever saw you do was trash EQ2 up and down, Trash SOE up and down... thats just hillarious.

LOL and now you've gone to WoW, I distinctly remember flaming me at some point for saying WoW was a "decent" game. Good to know what can be taken seriously in the future.

ferthala · August 2005

I came to EQ2 from WOW 2 months ago, and I think you will find it extremely anoying compared with EQ2. There you will find nothing to do but PVP or killing mobs.

Anyway I wish you the best in your new game (but we will probably see you back in EQ2 soon )

bye

Ranma13 · August 2005

I find it funny how these non-experts and non-analysts like to 'predict' the apparent imminent death of a MMORPG. It's happened with ALL MMORPGs, people will say "This game sucks I predict it will die in <insert x amount of time>". Let's look at the market, shall we? Considering all major MMORPGs, the only 2 I can think of that have been truly cancelled were Motor City Online and Earth and Beyond. Every other MMORPG I know of is still kicking and alive. Hell, even Meridian 59 and Ultima Online are still around. Sometimes, people say the wackiest of things without devoting much thought to exactly what they're claiming.

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