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Bad things with WoW! (There are also good of course!)
Mapleaf
Member Posts: 41
This is a text about WoW and Blizzard. Sit back and Enjoy! The Bad with WoW. Of course there are good things too but I don't write them here.
World of Warcraft the new "super MMORPG" made by the famous Blizzard. How come WoW become so big? Well, they have money, they have power, they have Warcraft Fans, and they are famous.
Is World of Warcraft the best MMORPG right there? "Yes" will the new people to MMORPGS say.
Simply No will people that played other MMORPGs say.
Why? World Of Warcraft might have nice graphic and so on. But it don't have the feeling. I am sure I will get tons of replies that says "It actually get a feeling", but man it don't. As a big MMORPG player I know that this
aren't the true MMORPG if you are looking after one you can really roleplay in.
WoW is spammed by thousand of kiddies and anoyying people. Things like you can go through other players are not cool. Hey Are all Ghosts?! I don't say WoW is a bad game but it is deffintly not the best MMORPG or even near as the most new people to MMORPGs says.
Why the expensive price? Blizzard wants to make money. "Who don't".
They promised us supergood Support that was online 24/7 and ready answer questions. I've emailed some questions but just got a autoreply mail that says "We can't take your message".
The Support ingame from the Game Masters aren't that good either. I have tried to ask them thousand of times and never got a answer. Yes they might be busy and many people are asking them, but they got paid! And they take our money that they promised would be to have a supergood Support.
One good thing that WoW actually did is thay they invited thousands of new people into the MMORPG world.
The World on WoW is quite big, but there is nothing none have explored. A real MMORPG is when you can go explore were not so many people have been. World of Warcraft is based on Quests. Quests = Lvling.
People says "YES! No Grinding anymore" But hey Grinding is a part of MMORPGs.
The people you buy stuffs from are you standing not in a store or anything. You just talk to them and you buy what you want. How relastic is that? The Graphic in World Of Warcraft is wonderful. That's also one good thing. But it is the details Blizzard should thought about, that could make World Of Warcraft to even a better MMORPG. In my option aint WoW for MMORPG players. It's for Warcraft Fans. Why do they even call it a MMORPG? They just continue from Warcraft but in MMORPG-form.
The max lvl is 60. It should be much more. The fun in a MMORPG is to be the highest level or rank. You can't be that on WoW since there are already thousands of lvl 60. Sure the Honorsystem will give you a rank, but of course there is already so much people in the highest rank. WoW is good in that way you can level a new charch fast if you want.
The Battlegrounds are cool. I can't deny that. Charch (Character) Creation aren't good. Hey all look like eachother!
So if you like Warcraft, definitly World of Warcraft is the game for you. Do you like exploring, roleplaying? Then World of Warcraft aint for you. But the game is quite fun, don't remember that.
I am sure many WoWpeople will answer me with stuffs like "Hey you don't know a shit what you are talking about, or atleast we think it is fun" Sure you do but I can write what I think, because that's what this forum is about. Don't think I am negative. I am just writing what I think.
World of Warcraft Don't deserve the high rating. It's just madness. There are much better MMORPGs out there!
Have fun in your MMORPG you are playing!
Text by Mapleaf.
Comments
I agree with most of it except 'So if you like Warcraft, definitly World of Warcraft is the game for you'. I like (or love) the Warcraft world but when I play WoW it does not feel like I am playing in the 'World of Warcraft'.
I agree most people who play WOW are just Warcraft fans and are new to mmorpgs!
One thing i hate about WOw though is that most people level grind and say it's the fastest way, maybe but its the most boring! How they don't reward grouping i find very annoying too, i tried to find a group but some guy had the cheek to say 1g and i'll group :S
I also don't like how people much higher level can gank you!
Otherwise i find it to be one of the best mmorps out there for all kinds of people
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let me see.... some parts of this articles rings bad to me.
Collision detection, for one, is not implemented in most MMorpg i know about, so what is the big surprise is not here? DAoC do not have it and they are big on PvP as well.. so the point is...?
People buying stuff from other people just staying around? ever heard of Auction house?
Expensive price? last time i checked most modern MMorpg cost 15 $ a month?
" Why do they even call it a MMORPG? They just continue from Warcraft but in MMORPG-form.
" Contradicting yourself? they continue it in MMorpg form, so it is a Mmorpg, pretty easy to get eh?
"The max lvl is 60. It should be much more. The fun in a MMORPG is to be the highest level or rank. You can't be that on WoW since there are already thousands of lvl 60"
Cause if the max level was 90 there won't be thousands of them in due time? i mean.. how many max level Everquest has? reaching max level is just a function of time, not how Leet a player is. Should be pretty clear to everybody right?
All in all, this "article" is amatorial stuff at best, complete crap at worst. No i do not speak of the content, but it has no form, no structure of any sort. the Reviewer jump from topic to topic without continuity nor substance, he always refers to what others probably will answer or think of this and ... well, not a serious nor professional article by all means.
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
i also agree with this article, but i would agree more if he actually used proper english, it felt like it was an asain trying to speak italian, it sounded crap!
i really dont see much point in people rushing towards getting the max lvl by grinding. People who lvl grind and have "fun" killing the same shit over and over, well thats great for you.. but that is not the point of a mmorpg. A mmorpg is a massive world where players can interact with the enviroment, join in the story of the game and become party of the community. Lvling and such is really the only way players can advance there character into more harder and challenging quests and make there character a more noticeable contribution to the game. Players that lvl grind and dont participate in the story, and do not quest or particapate fully in the community arnt really getting the fullest experience. What is the point of lvl grinding for hundreds of hours only to say "haha, you noob..im lvl100, im superior to you all".
The only players i respect which are the max level are the ones who have taken there time to explore the world and particiapate in the community. What is the point of playing a mmorpg when your only playing it as a rpg?
My english can't be so bad. Then you wouldn't even understand what I wrote about. I'm not living in a english-talking country so you don't have to blame me for that.
It's like you say. He that said that this article is crap, hah. You think so because you are WoW and Blizzard Lover. Anyway I think the article is fine
Mapleaf
WoW is good game for persons who play first mmorpg. It is FUN but lack in depths like crafting and playing roles like Peter Pan. It like McDonalds compared to Ruby Tuesday's
WoW is too EAZY! I played for an hour and was level 3! This rate is l'll be level 60 by the day after today. It is a good game BUT not for hardcore gamer. There is lore in WoW BUT there is not good lore they put Santa Clause in WoW SANTA in mmo?!!! Anyone who do not agree with me is WoW lover and blizzard lover. WoW is good game BUT I would not play it lacks depth like other mmo.
Article? What article? What magazine is that coming up in? I am pretty sure it is not a professional magazine, because biased, uniformed nonfactual ramblings, seldom work as "articles", but more like forum posts...
You dislike WoW. Fine... You go ahead, no one will stop you... The rest of the wrold, and the majority of the game development industry are right now brainstorming like crazy to see how they can get some WoW into their projects.
"its only for new gamers" Wow.. You really have no clue. Most old players play WoW. Those that has been playing games since the seventies, those that has worked with games since the eightees, those that work on games today, games that you think is "Advanced" enough, also play World of Warcraft. That statement alone show exactly what kind of "article" you have written... Completly uniformed gibberish, you have nothing that prove that "new players, inexperienced players" are the only ones that like WoW, it is just your dillusioned head because YOU think you are advanced.. and YOU do not like WoW.. so then that MUST mean that WoW is for new players... All that prove is that you are immature with a big head, and deranged self image. YOU are not the standard that the world must try to reach.
I have played games since 1973. I started working with games in the late 80s. I am pretty darn sure I am more "advanced" than you... I dislike WoW. It is a nice game, but it was only fun for a short while, unlike AO that held my interest for years. But I sure as hell do not think that means its a bad game, it is a godamn revolution in the gaming industry and your ramblings can not change that.
So take that Title away and change it to "WoW suxxors and for noobs" like all the others, because that is all you have achieved here.
"This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
It should be thrown with great force"
Rofl good stuff.
"Hey Are all Ghosts?!"
BRILLIANT!!
WTF is a CHARCH? Is that like a place to pray in WoW?
lmao.
Habit is not to be flung out the window by any man, but coaxed down the stairs one step at a time. - Mark Twain
I agree with that. This may be the worst written review I have ever seen, not that his points aren't valid, but, c'mon, if you're going to review anything, learn to write properly. Ugh!!
Charch is a shorter name off Character. I call it that
Omg those Negative people. Just beause you live in USA/England what ever and maybe are 18 years. Then you don't need to blame those that aren't full-learned on the english language.
FFS you know what I mean or then you just suck at english. Come on you see what I mean with this text.
I just called Article because I don't know what to name it.
Read the Article don't get mad for my english. (That aren't that BAD)!
Mapleaf
My english can't be so bad. Then you wouldn't even understand what I wrote about. I'm not living in a english-talking country so you don't have to blame me for that.
It's like you say. He that said that this article is crap, hah. You think so because you are WoW and Blizzard Lover. Anyway I think the article is fine
Mapleaf
Dont insult the guy becuase he doesnt like your "article". Its poorly written, un-professional(just like your immature remark "you are WoW and Blizzard Lover") and all around wrong on many points.
You are right about some stuff, but alot of stuff...I dont know where you pulled it from. WoW not an MMORPG? Ok, maybe you dont like it, but it definitely fits into the MMORPG category. The level cap should be higher than 60 because everybody is already there? If it was 100, 150, 200, and everybody hit those caps you wouldnt be satisfied? It would have to go higher?
My english can't be so bad. Then you wouldn't even understand what I wrote about. I'm not living in a english-talking country so you don't have to blame me for that.
It's like you say. He that said that this article is crap, hah. You think so because you are WoW and Blizzard Lover. Anyway I think the article is fine
Mapleaf
Dont insult the guy becuase he doesnt like your "article". Its poorly written, un-professional(just like your immature remark "you are WoW and Blizzard Lover") and all around wrong on many points.
You are right about some stuff, but alot of stuff...I dont know where you pulled it from. WoW not an MMORPG? Ok, maybe you dont like it, but it definitely fits into the MMORPG category. The level cap should be higher than 60 because everybody is already there? If it was 100, 150, 200, and everybody hit those caps you wouldnt be satisfied? It would have to go higher?
Hey man think before you say anything.
I didn't insult him and of course he might think that the article aren't good.
But that doesn't mean that he and you can insult me for my english.
Mapleaf
I never said that your english was bad. I said the article is poorly written. That has nothing to do with your english.
I said your "article" was poorly written because it is. A proper article is backed up by facts to give the argument meaning and validity. Your "article" is simply not an article. It is like every other post out there complaining about things you dont like in the game, with an attempt at the beginning to give it an article feel.
And yes, you did insult the guy. You used " you are WoW and Blizzard Lover" in a negative way, which makes it an insult.
I agree completely with Lanmoragon. Your comments are correct and, which is very rare, very mature. Maple, although your English isnt great, its not that bad. What most people are having problem with, as I do, is your biased article on a game you obviously do not like. Its like reading an article about KFC written by a vegetarian journalist who is also animal actvist.
What you did is basicaly wrote down all the things you dont like about WoW, characters who walk through other characters... You obviously dont like that, but did u consider that if you could block someone "physically", then someone could just go AFK in a tight corridor thus making it impossible for all others to exit that corridor? Thats just one example.
Another example, you seemed to have bad experience with WoW customer support, I didnt have any problems with them. The worst thing that happend is I got stuck under the terrain near Stormwind, I couldnt respawn on top of the surface whatever I did (I even made a short movie clip of this). So I made a ticket and since I couldnt wait for long I loged off. When I loged back, I found myself unstuck and a message from CSR informing me of that fact. The other several times I messaged CSRs I had answers waiting for me the next day. Sure takes some time to respond, but I can only imagine how many issues they have to resolve on a daily basis.
WoW did not bring nothing "unique" or "groundbraking", what they did is take the best of all current MMOs and implemented it within Warcraft based world. Thats why Bliz deserves a credit for this and thats why WoW is the best MMORPG currently on the market...
PS: your remark that grinding is part of MMORPG saddens me. I only hope that people like you will die out ( i dont mean literaly die out heh). The future of MMORPG is in flexibility, ability to provide players with all types of gameplay, solo, group, grind, whatever.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
I agree completely with Lanmoragon. Your comments are correct and, which is very rare, very mature. Maple, although your English isnt great, its not that bad. What most people are having problem with, as I do, is your biased article on a game you obviously do not like. Its like reading an article about KFC written by a vegetarian journalist who is also animal actvist.
What you did is basicaly wrote down all the things you dont like about WoW, characters who walk through other characters... You obviously dont like that, but did u consider that if you could block someone "physically", then someone could just go AFK in a tight corridor thus making it impossible for all others to exit that corridor? Thats just one example.
Another example, you seemed to have bad experience with WoW customer support, I didnt have any problems with them. The worst thing that happend is I got stuck under the terrain near Stormwind, I couldnt respawn on top of the surface whatever I did (I even made a short movie clip of this). So I made a ticket and since I couldnt wait for long I loged off. When I loged back, I found myself unstuck and a message from CSR informing me of that fact. The other several times I messaged CSRs I had answers waiting for me the next day. Sure takes some time to respond, but I can only imagine how many issues they have to resolve on a daily basis.
WoW did not bring nothing "unique" or "groundbraking", what they did is take the best of all current MMOs and implemented it within Warcraft based world. Thats why Bliz deserves a credit for this and thats why WoW is the best MMORPG currently on the market...
PS: your remark that grinding is part of MMORPG saddens me. I only hope that people like you will die out ( i dont mean literaly die out heh). The future of MMORPG is in flexibility, ability to provide players with all types of gameplay, solo, group, grind, whatever.
That's not an Insult. I wrote that because he was blaming my english.
Hehe. Man I knew you all would think that I am negative. But unlucky I mostly find the bad sides with WoW. Of course there are good things with WoW also but however. I didn't try to make this article Advanced. Just a article with the bad sides I saw in WoW. But of course all got their own opinions.
I don't like the last sentece you write. It aint true. Some people like Gridining in you have to accept that. In same way I accept that you don't like grinding.
But lets be happy instead of wasting time arguing about this. Lets have fun instead.
Good luck in WoW or what ever you play. Have fun and be happy. That should all be!
Mapleaf
You see?
we could not care less if you like WoW or not. What we are discussing about is the "article" and how is not an article at all but a forum post. So, next time, call it "what i don't like of WoW" or "WoW, my point of view" and everything will be fine.
For your reference, here are what Articles are, couple of examples:
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/worldofwarcraft/review.html
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setView/reviews/gameID/15/loadReview/0
Forget about the content, look how they are done. The first is a very standard, by-the-book stuff while the second is a bit more extravagant inserting part of a "diary of play" of sorts.
Let me give you couple points myself:
- Be always logical and reasonable in your review and give very precise expanations for your opinions, if you include them in your article.
- Try to be as objective as possible and acquire other people (especially the other's side) opinions as well. Games are valued on as much objective scale as possible. While Reviewers opinions surely affect it, they should affect it as minimally as possible.
- Do not jump from one thing to another, stay focused on one subject, then move to another
- Forget about other people, never mention thing like "i am sure others will disagree", you are reviewing a game, not pleasing the masses, stick to the topic
- don't speak about what you want from a game, but what the game IS
There are tons more i suppose, but this could be a good start.
Also, not related to the article: learn to accept criticism and not deny it. Sometimes people are simple jerks, but sometimes those critics are right. Learn to find out which is true.
Oh.. and finally, stop deluding yourself, you insulted him (yes, the fact you were "defending" your article do not transform an insult in... what? it is still an insult. We are NOT trying to tell you what is right or wrong, just pointing out facts, if you deny even those....). Or what else you were doing? praising him? tell us please, we are curious.
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
I have changed the topic and some of the content.
I don't call it article anymore because you don't like it
Better now? ^^