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all the borderlands the same?

gothagotha Member UncommonPosts: 1,074

Looking at the wvwvw map i noticed all the borderlands are the same.  Someone mentioned that they are just place holds but i have not been able to find any confirmation on that.

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  • ZeroxinZeroxin Member UncommonPosts: 2,515

    Yea they are all the same. It's probably made that way so people don't have to learn a new map if they happen to land in a different borderland.

    This is not a game.

  • kalmahkalmah Member Posts: 47

    It also ensures teams aren't at advantages or disadvantages due to terrain or layout.

    Porn has voice acting, who doesn't skip it?

  • RizelStarRizelStar Member UncommonPosts: 2,773

    Heard it was placeholders

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  • gothagotha Member UncommonPosts: 1,074

    Originally posted by RizelStar

    Heard it was placeholders

    heard this too,  but want to find a link to a source 

  • Badgered86Badgered86 Member UncommonPosts: 175

    My understanding is that this is intentional for balance purposes.  I don't mind them being the same, but I'd prefer a variety of terrain.  Perhaps this will be the case should they ever decide to add more WvWvW areas.

  • Master10KMaster10K Member Posts: 3,065

    Originally posted by Badgered86

    My understanding is that this is intentional for balance purposes.  I don't mind them being the same, but I'd prefer a variety of terrain.  Perhaps this will be the case should they ever decide to add more WvWvW areas.

    This is my thinking to. I just want ArenaNet to focus on other areas, like fixing certain issues the press had during beta (some good ones brought up by PC Gamer) and make sure that the game is fully optimized at launch, so that we can actually have those episode battles in WvW, without it becoming a Ilum slideshow.

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  • crewthiefcrewthief Member Posts: 235

    I saw a screenie of the map, want to say it was on Anets site. Wording across the top said the maps would all be different upon release, but they were just placeholders for the moment.

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  • oubersoubers Member UncommonPosts: 855

    i dont get some of you people.....all the time you hear that thing have to be refreshing and new.

    Whining how all chars look like humanoids (see the various SWTOR threads) and buildings are just copy/pasted.

    But when the "ALLMIGHTY" GW2 does it, its ok...np.....just slap a new texture on the borderlands it and where ok right?

    Must be just me......but an extra map aint that hard to balance......even wow BG's are made pretty balanced.

    If wow can, then the almighty GW2 should be able to do this too right?........guess i am wrong :p

    /end rant

     

     

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  • crewthiefcrewthief Member Posts: 235

    Originally posted by oubers

    i dont get some of you people.....all the time you hear that thing have to be refreshing and new.

    Whining how all chars look like humanoids (see the various SWTOR threads) and buildings are just copy/pasted.

    But when the "ALLMIGHTY" GW2 does it, its ok...np.....just slap a new texture on the borderlands it and where ok right?

    Must be just me......but an extra map aint that hard to balance......even wow BG's are made pretty balanced.

    If wow can, then the almighty GW2 should be able to do this too right?........guess i am wrong :p

    /end rant

     

     

    See my above post, i'm 99% sure that it's a case of placeholders. You know what kind of people I don't get? People that have no interest whatsoever (according to them) in a certain game, but then troll the forum of said game and scrutinize every post therein.

    Sorroe, Human Mesmer
    Jade Quarry Server

  • orangerascalorangerascal Member Posts: 52

    Maps are mirrored (in this case 3-way) for balance.

    Can you imagine the whining if one area has an easily fortified hill position while the other 2 do not?

     

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    Also ,I would rather they tri-mirror the map and create more maps, rather than create 1 map with 3 distinct regions.

  • ZeroxinZeroxin Member UncommonPosts: 2,515

    Originally posted by oubers

    i dont get some of you people.....all the time you hear that thing have to be refreshing and new.

    Whining how all chars look like humanoids (see the various SWTOR threads) and buildings are just copy/pasted.

    But when the "ALLMIGHTY" GW2 does it, its ok...np.....just slap a new texture on the borderlands it and where ok right?

    Must be just me......but an extra map aint that hard to balance......even wow BG's are made pretty balanced.

    If wow can, then the almighty GW2 should be able to do this too right?........guess i am wrong :p

    /end rant

     

     

    There's nothing wrong with having the 3 borderland maps look the same. If you don't like it you can always go smoke your WoW bong.

    This is not a game.

  • BigdaddyxBigdaddyx Member UncommonPosts: 2,039

    Originally posted by Zeroxin

    Originally posted by oubers

    i dont get some of you people.....all the time you hear that thing have to be refreshing and new.

    Whining how all chars look like humanoids (see the various SWTOR threads) and buildings are just copy/pasted.

    But when the "ALLMIGHTY" GW2 does it, its ok...np.....just slap a new texture on the borderlands it and where ok right?

    Must be just me......but an extra map aint that hard to balance......even wow BG's are made pretty balanced.

    If wow can, then the almighty GW2 should be able to do this too right?........guess i am wrong :p

    /end rant

     

     

    There's nothing wrong with having the 3 borderland maps look the same. If you don't like it you can always go smoke your WoW bong.

    What he is saying that why give hard time to other MMOS for copy pasting but is ok when GW2 does it..or did i read it all wrong?

  • ZeroxinZeroxin Member UncommonPosts: 2,515

    Originally posted by orangerascal

    Maps are mirrored (in this case 3-way) for balance.

    Can you imagine the whining if one area has an easily fortified hill position while the other 2 do not?

     

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    .

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    Also ,I would rather they tri-mirror the map and create more maps, rather than create 1 map with 3 distinct regions.

    What I'm thinking is, the maps have to at least be stylistically different but not logistically different. Stylistically meaning design and aesthetics, logistically meaning distance between point A and B. I've seen a lot of not-so-mirrored arenas in GW1 but you definitely feel like the distances for both sides are the same.

    This is not a game.

  • ZeroxinZeroxin Member UncommonPosts: 2,515

    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

    Originally posted by Zeroxin


    Originally posted by oubers

    i dont get some of you people.....all the time you hear that thing have to be refreshing and new.

    Whining how all chars look like humanoids (see the various SWTOR threads) and buildings are just copy/pasted.

    But when the "ALLMIGHTY" GW2 does it, its ok...np.....just slap a new texture on the borderlands it and where ok right?

    Must be just me......but an extra map aint that hard to balance......even wow BG's are made pretty balanced.

    If wow can, then the almighty GW2 should be able to do this too right?........guess i am wrong :p

    /end rant

     

     

    There's nothing wrong with having the 3 borderland maps look the same. If you don't like it you can always go smoke your WoW bong.

    What he is saying that why give hard time to other MMOS for copy pasting but is ok when GW2 does it..or did i read it all wrong?

    Yes he is but which one of us gave WoW a hard time for copy-pasting? I'm going to guess none and if WoW did it on a pvp map, it wouldn't matter because a PvP map has to be balanced for both sides. So to me, what he said was just to have something bad to say about the people talking about GW2 really.

    This is not a game.

  • oubersoubers Member UncommonPosts: 855

    Originally posted by Zeroxin

    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

    Originally posted by Zeroxin

    Originally posted by oubers

    i dont get some of you people.....all the time you hear that thing have to be refreshing and new.

    Whining how all chars look like humanoids (see the various SWTOR threads) and buildings are just copy/pasted.

    But when the "ALLMIGHTY" GW2 does it, its ok...np.....just slap a new texture on the borderlands it and where ok right?

    Must be just me......but an extra map aint that hard to balance......even wow BG's are made pretty balanced.

    If wow can, then the almighty GW2 should be able to do this too right?........guess i am wrong :p

    /end rant

     

     

    There's nothing wrong with having the 3 borderland maps look the same. If you don't like it you can always go smoke your WoW bong.

    What he is saying that why give hard time to other MMOS for copy pasting but is ok when GW2 does it..or did i read it all wrong?

    Yes he is but which one of us gave WoW a hard time for copy-pasting? I'm going to guess none and if WoW did it on a pvp map, it wouldn't matter because a PvP map has to be balanced for both sides. So to me, what he said was just to have something bad to say about the people talking about GW2 really.

    Highlighted in red.....RLY?

    There are a wowzillion threads complaining about how ALL games do nothing but copy/paste....and then when GW2 does it, its all good.....hehe.

    Dont think i am bashing this game ok.....i am also waiting for it and hoping it will meet my expectations also.

    bigdaddy got it right alright.

     

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  • BigdaddyxBigdaddyx Member UncommonPosts: 2,039

    Originally posted by Zeroxin

    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx


    Originally posted by Zeroxin


    Originally posted by oubers

    i dont get some of you people.....all the time you hear that thing have to be refreshing and new.

    Whining how all chars look like humanoids (see the various SWTOR threads) and buildings are just copy/pasted.

    But when the "ALLMIGHTY" GW2 does it, its ok...np.....just slap a new texture on the borderlands it and where ok right?

    Must be just me......but an extra map aint that hard to balance......even wow BG's are made pretty balanced.

    If wow can, then the almighty GW2 should be able to do this too right?........guess i am wrong :p

    /end rant

     

     

    There's nothing wrong with having the 3 borderland maps look the same. If you don't like it you can always go smoke your WoW bong.

    What he is saying that why give hard time to other MMOS for copy pasting but is ok when GW2 does it..or did i read it all wrong?

    Yes he is but which one of us gave WoW a hard time for copy-pasting? I'm going to guess none and if WoW did it on a pvp map, it wouldn't matter because a PvP map has to be balanced for both sides. So to me, what he said was just to have something bad to say about the people talking about GW2 really.

    He is talking in general about GW2 fans who are ready to give GW2 an easy pass on things for which they ripped other games apart. Doesn't mean he is talkign specifically about you or anyone else in this topic.

  • Master10KMaster10K Member Posts: 3,065

    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

    Originally posted by Zeroxin


    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx


    *snip*

    What he is saying that why give hard time to other MMOS for copy pasting but is ok when GW2 does it..or did i read it all wrong?

    Yes he is but which one of us gave WoW a hard time for copy-pasting? I'm going to guess none and if WoW did it on a pvp map, it wouldn't matter because a PvP map has to be balanced for both sides. So to me, what he said was just to have something bad to say about the people talking about GW2 really.

    He is talking in general about GW2 fans who are ready to give GW2 an easy pass on things for which they ripped other games apart. Doesn't mean he is talkign specifically about you or anyone else in this topic.

    I think the real reason why most GW2 fans would give ArenaNet an easy pass, with things like the Borderlands being the same, is that it is a whole lot better than the crap we already have. Personally I'm like, who gives a crap if the Home maps are mirrored. As long as the 3 Server Warfare actually "works as intended" then I'm fine with that. And it looks like ArenaNet is getting there.

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  • BigdaddyxBigdaddyx Member UncommonPosts: 2,039

    Originally posted by Master10K

    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx


    Originally posted by Zeroxin


    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx


    *snip*

    What he is saying that why give hard time to other MMOS for copy pasting but is ok when GW2 does it..or did i read it all wrong?

    Yes he is but which one of us gave WoW a hard time for copy-pasting? I'm going to guess none and if WoW did it on a pvp map, it wouldn't matter because a PvP map has to be balanced for both sides. So to me, what he said was just to have something bad to say about the people talking about GW2 really.

    He is talking in general about GW2 fans who are ready to give GW2 an easy pass on things for which they ripped other games apart. Doesn't mean he is talkign specifically about you or anyone else in this topic.

    I think the real reason why most GW2 fans would give ArenaNet an easy pass, with things like the Borderlands being the same, is that it is a whole lot better than the crap we already have. Personally I'm like, who gives a crap if the Home maps are mirrored. As long as the 3 Server Warfare actually "works as intended" then I'm fine with that. And it looks like ArenaNet is getting there.

    Sorry but all other MMOS which were ripped apart also had good features only because you personally didn't like those features doesn't mean they were over all crap. So your reason for giving an easy pass to GW2 is more of a fan's opinion and not that of a rational person.

  • ZeroxinZeroxin Member UncommonPosts: 2,515

    Originally posted by oubers

    Originally posted by Zeroxin


     

    Yes he is but which one of us gave WoW a hard time for copy-pasting? I'm going to guess none and if WoW did it on a pvp map, it wouldn't matter because a PvP map has to be balanced for both sides. So to me, what he said was just to have something bad to say about the people talking about GW2 really.

    Highlighted in red.....RLY?

    There are a wowzillion threads complaining about how ALL games do nothing but copy/paste....and then when GW2 does it, its all good.....hehe.

    Dont think i am bashing this game ok.....i am also waiting for it and hoping it will meet my expectations also.

    bigdaddy got it right alright.

     

    You weren't bashing the game, for me you were bashing the posters of this thread which isn't nice but nonetheless, we've cleared it up so it's all good.

    This is not a game.

  • Master10KMaster10K Member Posts: 3,065

    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx

    Originally posted by Master10K


    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx


    Originally posted by Zeroxin


    Originally posted by Bigdaddyx


    *snip*

    What he is saying that why give hard time to other MMOS for copy pasting but is ok when GW2 does it..or did i read it all wrong?

    Yes he is but which one of us gave WoW a hard time for copy-pasting? I'm going to guess none and if WoW did it on a pvp map, it wouldn't matter because a PvP map has to be balanced for both sides. So to me, what he said was just to have something bad to say about the people talking about GW2 really.

    He is talking in general about GW2 fans who are ready to give GW2 an easy pass on things for which they ripped other games apart. Doesn't mean he is talkign specifically about you or anyone else in this topic.

    I think the real reason why most GW2 fans would give ArenaNet an easy pass, with things like the Borderlands being the same, is that it is a whole lot better than the crap we already have. Personally I'm like, who gives a crap if the Home maps are mirrored. As long as the 3 Server Warfare actually "works as intended" then I'm fine with that. And it looks like ArenaNet is getting there.

    Sorry but all other MMOS which were ripped apart also had good features only because you personally didn't like those features doesn't mean they were over all crap. So your reason for giving an easy pass to GW2 is more of a fan's opinion and not that of a rational person.

    So let's say I find SW:TOR open-world PvP zone Ilum complete garbage, but I like GW2's open-world PvP zone Eternal Battlegrounds and I have valid reasons to like one over the other. You're basically saying that my opinion is complete crap. Whatever... I'll enjoy my time in WvW. If ArenaNet deicdes to change the Home maps up a little, that would be a plus to an already great game feature tht could be a game on it's own (kinda is in Planetside)

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