To Dollada06 and DaRoamer: Please don't feed the Trolls! Ignore them and they will go away. I know it's hard but for the sake of this sites integrity it would be for the best.
As far as the OP goes I do not consider TOR's marketing huge at all. Other than BBT (OK episode) I have yet to see any marketing other than on this site.
I can't tell if you are trying to put TOR down for it or not. So many shit posts about TOR it's hard to tell the legit posts from the fucked-up garbage that is posted daily.
lol, was just looking on a website for a list of edible plants and what do you know.....
If only they put that much time and effort into making a good game..if only.
It is a good game, its sad that haters like you cant help but be negative
it is a bad game, its sad that lovers like you cant help but be positive in crap game like this
Seriously? Did you actually read what you wrote? I understand you're trying to be funny but put some effort into it.
No, it's absolutely not sad to spend time in a forum for a game that you enjoy and make positive posts about it. On the other hand if you don't like something, why spend time on it? Move on with your life. Enough with the "crusades".
There are lots of restaurants I like, I spend time there and I may comment on how good the food is. If I didn't like the food at a restaurant I wouldn't hang out there and spend my time telling other people how much the place sucks.
You've largely missed the boat on what became of social activism via the net, there are sites popping up everywhere to "enable" people to hate on pretty much anything & dress it up as "consumer review".
Given the choice between being positive & negative a big enough section of the internet community leans to being negative that there is a "market" for that kind of crap. Don't be surprised to see a "MMO Game hater . org" spring up somewhere to serve that need....oh, hang on a sec maybe I just found....
To Dollada06 and DaRoamer: Please don't feed the Trolls! Ignore them and they will go away. I know it's hard but for the sake of this sites integrity it would be for the best.
As far as the OP goes I do not consider TOR's marketing huge at all. Other than BBT (OK episode) I have yet to see any marketing other than on this site.
I can't tell if you are trying to put TOR down for it or not. So many shit posts about TOR it's hard to tell the legit posts from the fucked-up garbage that is posted daily.
lol, was just looking on a website for a list of edible plants and what do you know.....
It is a rotating banner ad, but there is one for TOR.
OK that is weird if true. I use Firefox with AdBlock so I don't see any ads at all. But I'll take your word for it. Strange product placement for sure!
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Can I just say how pissed I am they couldn't even get basic details right?
I live with someone who LOVES the show, I hate it, and was watching it in the ilving room so I cought bits and peices..
"Okay, we can play for the republic and the lightside of the force, or the empire and the dark side"...But....You...Character alignments...faction has nothing to do with it....../nerdrage!
Seriously, everyone I know who watches it and even the critics act like its the "best" show with nerds on it and preach about how accurate it is..they couldn't even get a basic detail right.
They were talking about Star Wars universe in general, since they haven't played the game yet, republic is lightside and empire is darkside. They were not talking about the mechanics of each charater. Also, even if a replublic jedi goes dark, he doesn't get the darkside power. He's still a good guy with lightside power of the force with a bad attitude. Same goes force empire with a lightside character.
As you should know, republic is mostly lightside and empire mostly darkside. Do you know that many character in the Star Wars universe that are republic darkside and empire lightside?
Get a life you freaking Gamer.....no no, you don't understand, I'm a Gamer, I have many lives!!
If only they put that much time and effort into making a good game..if only.
It is a good game, its sad that haters like you cant help but be negative
That's why it's bleeding subs and now even the servers on the first page of TorStatus are now running as low as 1.54 which is, basically 36% light/54% standard. Which is why there are SCORES of servers that no longer reach heavy. Why there are entire days, even on the most populus servers, there are no recorded 'server fulls.' While the individual account log-ons (not the play hours, but log ons) are 50% down from January 8th.
And, of course, why their sales, despite over two weeks of massive TV, print and Internet bombardmant are still going down...
So defend all you want. The game is dropping like Warhammer. You'll have a few more months of 'meh' subscriptions, then the last of those 60-day cards will expire and BOOM, game over at the May analysts meeting...
Your argument doesn't support it being a bad game, just a bad MMO. It was a fine game with a decent story, but a story driven game just can't give you the number of game play hours you need to hold people in an MMO and paying a subscription. They should have made it like Neverwinter Nights, a single player game with a multiplayer aspect.
Your argument doesn't support it being a bad game, just a bad MMO. It was a fine game with a decent story, but a story driven game just can't give you the number of game play hours you need to hold people in an MMO and paying a subscription. They should have made it like Neverwinter Nights, a single player game with a multiplayer aspect.
Good comment.
Imo:
Purchase the game - play through stories. Pay a yearly fee for the mmo aspect like CoD (e.g. $50). Buy the new content as DLC. No monthly sub = bigger market.
As a sub based game I see: purchase game, play a month or two, unsub. Come back for a month when EA release an xpac; play through xpac and content packs, unsub.
I stand by my belief that the Big Bang Theory isn't a show for nerds.
Its rather a show for people who like to laugh at nerds.
I think its more a show for people whos only other interaction with nerds is from hollywood. Because frankly thats all it is, the hollywood sterotype of nerds turned to 11 entirely played for laughs.
Playing Nothing waiting for The secret world Played WoW, DCU online, star wars: the old republic, city of heroes, city of villains, everquest, plenty more I'm probably forgetting or aren't worth noting.
If only they put that much time and effort into making a good game..if only.
It is a good game, its sad that haters like you cant help but be negative
it is a bad game, its sad that lovers like you cant help but be positive in crap game like this
Seriously? Did you actually read what you wrote? I understand you're trying to be funny but put some effort into it.
No, it's absolutely not sad to spend time in a forum for a game that you enjoy and make positive posts about it. On the other hand if you don't like something, why spend time on it? Move on with your life. Enough with the "crusades".
There are lots of restaurants I like, I spend time there and I may comment on how good the food is. If I didn't like the food at a restaurant I wouldn't hang out there and spend my time telling other people how much the place sucks.
The point of discussing and giving opinions on a product are so you can pass on handy info to others. Does that restaurant have poor service and undercook their food - I'd hope that people who had a bad experience would tell me if they got the chance. Frankly, I'd be pissed at a friend who didn't warn me about a bad restaurant and had opportunity to tell me.
(also, we are not 'in' the restaurant so your analogy is a little off in that regard - that would be the equivalent of shouting ingame)
If only they put that much time and effort into making a good game..if only.
It is a good game, its sad that haters like you cant help but be negative
it is a bad game, its sad that lovers like you cant help but be positive in crap game like this
Seriously? Did you actually read what you wrote? I understand you're trying to be funny but put some effort into it.
No, it's absolutely not sad to spend time in a forum for a game that you enjoy and make positive posts about it. On the other hand if you don't like something, why spend time on it? Move on with your life. Enough with the "crusades".
There are lots of restaurants I like, I spend time there and I may comment on how good the food is. If I didn't like the food at a restaurant I wouldn't hang out there and spend my time telling other people how much the place sucks.
i post it as an irony to his.
Im upset with those guys that they think that all ppl must follow their opinions, and all others that they dont are the wrong ones, the bad, the evil.
We all have the right to say our opinion, good or bad and all must accept it, but this guy (and others like him) dont want to.
And nobody hates the game, they hate the devs, the company that create a very bad game
fan of SWG, XCOM, Defiance, Global Agenda, Need For Speed, all Star Wars single player games. And waiting the darn STAR CITIZEN
If only they put that much time and effort into making a good game..if only.
It is a good game, its sad that haters like you cant help but be negative
it is a bad game, its sad that lovers like you cant help but be positive in crap game like this
Seriously? Did you actually read what you wrote? I understand you're trying to be funny but put some effort into it.
No, it's absolutely not sad to spend time in a forum for a game that you enjoy and make positive posts about it. On the other hand if you don't like something, why spend time on it? Move on with your life. Enough with the "crusades".
There are lots of restaurants I like, I spend time there and I may comment on how good the food is. If I didn't like the food at a restaurant I wouldn't hang out there and spend my time telling other people how much the place sucks.
i post it as an irony to his.
Im upset with those guys that they think that all ppl must follow their opinions, and all others that they dont are the wrong ones, the bad, the evil.
We all have the right to say our opinion, good or bad and all must accept it, but this guy (and others like him) dont want to.
And nobody hates the game, they hate the devs, the company that create a very bad game
I don't think anyone said anyone else is "wrong" or "bad" or "evil"...and if they did they're morons. But I feel its more like a "If you don't like it, don't play it, and stop coming to forums dedicated to that game just to bash it" I mean really its the same kind of people who look up music videos of bands they hate on youtube just to insult them or their fans.
Playing Nothing waiting for The secret world Played WoW, DCU online, star wars: the old republic, city of heroes, city of villains, everquest, plenty more I'm probably forgetting or aren't worth noting.
If only they put that much time and effort into making a good game..if only.
It is a good game, its sad that haters like you cant help but be negative
it is a bad game, its sad that lovers like you cant help but be positive in crap game like this
Seriously? Did you actually read what you wrote? I understand you're trying to be funny but put some effort into it.
No, it's absolutely not sad to spend time in a forum for a game that you enjoy and make positive posts about it. On the other hand if you don't like something, why spend time on it? Move on with your life. Enough with the "crusades".
There are lots of restaurants I like, I spend time there and I may comment on how good the food is. If I didn't like the food at a restaurant I wouldn't hang out there and spend my time telling other people how much the place sucks.
i post it as an irony to his.
Im upset with those guys that they think that all ppl must follow their opinions, and all others that they dont are the wrong ones, the bad, the evil.
We all have the right to say our opinion, good or bad and all must accept it, but this guy (and others like him) dont want to.
And nobody hates the game, they hate the devs, the company that create a very bad game
I don't think anyone said anyone else is "wrong" or "bad" or "evil"...and if they did they're morons. But I feel its more like a "If you don't like it, don't play it, and stop coming to forums dedicated to that game just to bash it" I mean really its the same kind of people who look up music videos of bands they hate on youtube just to insult them or their fans.
since they can are their right to do so
and i like ppl that come to game forums that they dont like and say their opinions and are specific, telling what is that thay dont like in it
and also is another way round in "If you don't like it, don't play it'' ''if you like it, stop coming here and play it''
ah and he is insult ppl calling them ''haters''
fan of SWG, XCOM, Defiance, Global Agenda, Need For Speed, all Star Wars single player games. And waiting the darn STAR CITIZEN
If only they put that much time and effort into making a good game..if only.
It is a good game, its sad that haters like you cant help but be negative
That's why it's bleeding subs and now even the servers on the first page of TorStatus are now running as low as 1.54 which is, basically 36% light/54% standard. Which is why there are SCORES of servers that no longer reach heavy. Why there are entire days, even on the most populus servers, there are no recorded 'server fulls.' While the individual account log-ons (not the play hours, but log ons) are 50% down from January 8th.
And, of course, why their sales, despite over two weeks of massive TV, print and Internet bombardmant are still going down...
So defend all you want. The game is dropping like Warhammer. You'll have a few more months of 'meh' subscriptions, then the last of those 60-day cards will expire and BOOM, game over at the May analysts meeting...
Your argument doesn't support it being a bad game, just a bad MMO. It was a fine game with a decent story, but a story driven game just can't give you the number of game play hours you need to hold people in an MMO and paying a subscription. They should have made it like Neverwinter Nights, a single player game with a multiplayer aspect.
An MMO is a game. It's not a roast. It's not a bagel. It's not a car. It's a game.
And the resume' of a game is it's sales (and subs for an MMO), especially trends when you get past the fanboy-preorder/hype stage. Today is the 15th of March. For the week ending March 3, 2012, SWTOR sold about 20K units was 53rd in global sales as it's continuing its slide. In fact, Skyrim and Kindoms of Almunar both out-sold it.
For the record, game play hours are a valid modeling tool. Denial of this statistically valid modeling tool is just uninformed. WoW, for example, tracks gameplay like a hawk because it is the biggest predictor of future subscription losses. So get used to it.
At this point the only reason SWTOR hasn't announced server mergers is they need to wait past the end of their financial year. If they do it now, it'll have a HUGE impact come the end of year perception of Company performance and high-level executives could be pink-slipped. Give it until May, they'll be early in to the next fiscal year and they'll be less likely to be fired.
CEO behavior at its finest... Hide the bad as long as possible to keep your job safe, to heck with the company and the customers.
An MMO is a game. It's not a roast. It's not a bagel. It's not a car. It's a game.
And the resume' of a game is it's sales (and subs for an MMO), especially trends when you get past the fanboy-preorder/hype stage. Today is the 15th of March. For the week ending March 3, 2012, SWTOR sold about 20K units was 53rd in global sales as it's continuing its slide. In fact, Skyrim and Kindoms of Almunar both out-sold it.
For the record, game play hours are a valid modeling tool. Denial of this statistically valid modeling tool is just uninformed. WoW, for example, tracks gameplay like a hawk because it is the biggest predictor of future subscription losses. So get used to it.
At this point the only reason SWTOR hasn't announced server mergers is they need to wait past the end of their financial year. If they do it now, it'll have a HUGE impact come the end of year perception of Company performance and high-level executives could be pink-slipped. Give it until May, they'll be early in to the next fiscal year and they'll be less likely to be fired.
CEO behavior at its finest... Hide the bad as long as possible to keep your job safe, to heck with the company and the customers.
Holy shit, the most rational and coherent post I've ever read on these forums. I'd upvote you if I could, but quotation and imitation are the most sincere forms of flattery.
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
If only they put that much time and effort into making a good game..if only.
It is a good game, its sad that haters like you cant help but be negative
That's why it's bleeding subs and now even the servers on the first page of TorStatus are now running as low as 1.54 which is, basically 36% light/54% standard. Which is why there are SCORES of servers that no longer reach heavy. Why there are entire days, even on the most populus servers, there are no recorded 'server fulls.' While the individual account log-ons (not the play hours, but log ons) are 50% down from January 8th.
And, of course, why their sales, despite over two weeks of massive TV, print and Internet bombardmant are still going down...
So defend all you want. The game is dropping like Warhammer. You'll have a few more months of 'meh' subscriptions, then the last of those 60-day cards will expire and BOOM, game over at the May analysts meeting...
Your argument doesn't support it being a bad game, just a bad MMO. It was a fine game with a decent story, but a story driven game just can't give you the number of game play hours you need to hold people in an MMO and paying a subscription. They should have made it like Neverwinter Nights, a single player game with a multiplayer aspect.
An MMO is a game. It's not a roast. It's not a bagel. It's not a car. It's a game.
And the resume' of a game is it's sales (and subs for an MMO), especially trends when you get past the fanboy-preorder/hype stage. Today is the 15th of March. For the week ending March 3, 2012, SWTOR sold about 20K units was 53rd in global sales as it's continuing its slide. In fact, Skyrim and Kindoms of Almunar both out-sold it.
For the record, game play hours are a valid modeling tool. Denial of this statistically valid modeling tool is just uninformed. WoW, for example, tracks gameplay like a hawk because it is the biggest predictor of future subscription losses. So get used to it.
At this point the only reason SWTOR hasn't announced server mergers is they need to wait past the end of their financial year. If they do it now, it'll have a HUGE impact come the end of year perception of Company performance and high-level executives could be pink-slipped. Give it until May, they'll be early in to the next fiscal year and they'll be less likely to be fired.
CEO behavior at its finest... Hide the bad as long as possible to keep your job safe, to heck with the company and the customers.
Not even close to true , no merges needed , the servers are bursting at all times - there are no light servers, no ghost town fleets , none.
If they needed more subs and were seeing retail sales falling off a cliff they would be pushing some free trial , some bring a friend invite , anything to get more subs to try and make it look like the trainwreck isn't coming.
Can I just say how pissed I am they couldn't even get basic details right?
I live with someone who LOVES the show, I hate it, and was watching it in the ilving room so I cought bits and peices..
"Okay, we can play for the republic and the lightside of the force, or the empire and the dark side"...But....You...Character alignments...faction has nothing to do with it....../nerdrage!
Seriously, everyone I know who watches it and even the critics act like its the "best" show with nerds on it and preach about how accurate it is..they couldn't even get a basic detail right.
We watched it and I said the same thing. I like the show but it really does have a lucrative option for showing geeks on 'games' for less than obvious advertisement. I am sure the show go a hefty $$ payday for doing what amounted to a almost nothing actually about the game. i think there was one 5 second shot of a character? (When the gf was showing off her new purple robes or something.)
An MMO is a game. It's not a roast. It's not a bagel. It's not a car. It's a game.
And the resume' of a game is it's sales (and subs for an MMO), especially trends when you get past the fanboy-preorder/hype stage. Today is the 15th of March. For the week ending March 3, 2012, SWTOR sold about 20K units was 53rd in global sales as it's continuing its slide. In fact, Skyrim and Kindoms of Almunar both out-sold it.
For the record, game play hours are a valid modeling tool. Denial of this statistically valid modeling tool is just uninformed. WoW, for example, tracks gameplay like a hawk because it is the biggest predictor of future subscription losses. So get used to it.
At this point the only reason SWTOR hasn't announced server mergers is they need to wait past the end of their financial year. If they do it now, it'll have a HUGE impact come the end of year perception of Company performance and high-level executives could be pink-slipped. Give it until May, they'll be early in to the next fiscal year and they'll be less likely to be fired.
CEO behavior at its finest... Hide the bad as long as possible to keep your job safe, to heck with the company and the customers.
Holy shit, the most rational and coherent post I've ever read on these forums. I'd upvote you if I could, but quotation and imitation are the most sincere forms of flattery.
Actually I see a bunch of hyperbole.
20k per week in addition to over 2M copies sold is freaking awesome for a MMO game. Sandbox MMOs wish they could do that type of sales.
Skyrim not only is for console, but just had its price dropped by 20 bucks. Thus you are comparing 2 different types of games(SP vs MMO), on different platforms, with different prices. Amalur just launched to 300 ish k sales according to Joystiq.com article. I would hope it sold more than 20k per week during its launch phase.
The "hater" spin is nothing new. We keep hearing it from the same folks. Each time they present as much bullshit as fact, and sometimes more. The post you quoted is the epitome of the nonsense being spouted.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
Dumb title, nonsense OP. I follow the show, and I cannot count the gazillion nerd and geek references that pass by in its episodes. SWTOR is currenty popular in geek and nerd circles, so it gets a reference in the show as well, just like many other now popular nerd topics.
Has nothing to do with marketing and everything with the theme of the show.
20k per week in addition to over 2M copies sold is freaking awesome for a MMO game. Sandbox MMOs wish they could do that type of sales.
Skyrim not only is for console, but just had its price dropped by 20 bucks. Thus you are comparing 2 different types of games(SP vs MMO), on different platforms, with different prices. Amalur just launched to 300 ish k sales according to Joystiq.com article. I would hope it sold more than 20k per week during its launch phase.
The "hater" spin is nothing new. We keep hearing it from the same folks. Each time they present as much bullshit as fact, and sometimes more. The post you quoted is the epitome of the nonsense being spouted.
Age of Conan sold nearly one million copies, but that didn't mean much now, did it?
Those 2 million copies sold don't mean jack squat if they can't cover the actual cost of making the game with some reasonable return.
When you see a negative trend in subscribers within the first year the game launches, it doesn't portend anything good for that game. Name one game that had a steady trend of decreasing subscriber numbers within it's first quarter and didn't go niche/free to play?
That's right, it hasn't happened.
SW:TOR will never get a million subscribers, or even maintain more than 500k after a year. SWTOR launched with far too much competition. Whoever thought it'd be a great idea to launch a Starwars-themed WoW in the midst of nearly a dozen WoW-quality f2p titles to choose from should be bludgeoned with a tack hammer.
SW:TOR isn't a bad game, it's just asking a lot for anybody to pay a subscription for it. As a one-time purchase a la GW it would have done better.
It's just a shame bioware was involved. They just blew any opportunity they'll have in the near future to develop a major IP as an MMO, or any MMO for that matter.
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
Can I just say how pissed I am they couldn't even get basic details right?
I live with someone who LOVES the show, I hate it, and was watching it in the ilving room so I cought bits and peices..
"Okay, we can play for the republic and the lightside of the force, or the empire and the dark side"...But....You...Character alignments...faction has nothing to do with it....../nerdrage!
Seriously, everyone I know who watches it and even the critics act like its the "best" show with nerds on it and preach about how accurate it is..they couldn't even get a basic detail right.
Did you also notice that they appeared to have 5 people in their flashpoint group? The 4 guys and Bernadette.
20k per week in addition to over 2M copies sold is freaking awesome for a MMO game. Sandbox MMOs wish they could do that type of sales.
Skyrim not only is for console, but just had its price dropped by 20 bucks. Thus you are comparing 2 different types of games(SP vs MMO), on different platforms, with different prices. Amalur just launched to 300 ish k sales according to Joystiq.com article. I would hope it sold more than 20k per week during its launch phase.
The "hater" spin is nothing new. We keep hearing it from the same folks. Each time they present as much bullshit as fact, and sometimes more. The post you quoted is the epitome of the nonsense being spouted.
Age of Conan sold nearly one million copies, but that didn't mean much now, did it?
Those 2 million copies sold don't mean jack squat if they can't cover the actual cost of making the game with some reasonable return.
When you see a negative trend in subscribers within the first year the game launches, it doesn't portend anything good for that game. Name one game that had a steady trend of decreasing subscriber numbers within it's first quarter and didn't go niche/free to play?
That's right, it hasn't happened.
SW:TOR will never get a million subscribers, or even maintain more than 500k after a year. SWTOR launched with far too much competition. Whoever thought it'd be a great idea to launch a Starwars-themed WoW in the midst of nearly a dozen WoW-quality f2p titles to choose from should be bludgeoned with a tack hammer.
SW:TOR isn't a bad game, it's just asking a lot for anybody to pay a subscription for it. As a one-time purchase a la GW it would have done better.
It's just a shame bioware was involved. They just blew any opportunity they'll have in the near future to develop a major IP as an MMO, or any MMO for that matter.
I never played Conan, but IIRC it is PVP focused is it not? TOR is PVE focused, and you can forget trying to compare the fanbase each type of game attracts. TOR has issues with PVP....PVE simply needs things added in. A number of game items are being added in 1.2, and beyond. Thus they will simply need to kick out PVE content after. SOmething EQ did, but WoW failed at.
The contention that TOR will never make 1M subs....it already did. Moot point. The 500k after a yr.....good point. I was already on record stating that with minimal updates, the game will drop to 400 or 500k subs in a yr. With a major type expansion worth of content, I have no clue how things will sit.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
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lol, was just looking on a website for a list of edible plants and what do you know.....
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/plants-1.php
It is a rotating banner ad, but there is one for TOR.
You've largely missed the boat on what became of social activism via the net, there are sites popping up everywhere to "enable" people to hate on pretty much anything & dress it up as "consumer review".
Given the choice between being positive & negative a big enough section of the internet community leans to being negative that there is a "market" for that kind of crap. Don't be surprised to see a "MMO Game hater . org" spring up somewhere to serve that need....oh, hang on a sec maybe I just found....
OK that is weird if true. I use Firefox with AdBlock so I don't see any ads at all. But I'll take your word for it. Strange product placement for sure!
Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.
It's good for the eyes of naive people not for the demanding player base
They were talking about Star Wars universe in general, since they haven't played the game yet, republic is lightside and empire is darkside. They were not talking about the mechanics of each charater. Also, even if a replublic jedi goes dark, he doesn't get the darkside power. He's still a good guy with lightside power of the force with a bad attitude. Same goes force empire with a lightside character.
As you should know, republic is mostly lightside and empire mostly darkside. Do you know that many character in the Star Wars universe that are republic darkside and empire lightside?
Get a life you freaking Gamer.....no no, you don't understand, I'm a Gamer, I have many lives!!
Your argument doesn't support it being a bad game, just a bad MMO. It was a fine game with a decent story, but a story driven game just can't give you the number of game play hours you need to hold people in an MMO and paying a subscription. They should have made it like Neverwinter Nights, a single player game with a multiplayer aspect.
Funcom already used Big Bang Theory to advertise Age of conan. EA is not the only one.
Every dick and harry thinks he is better than the others. Nothing new...you are just one in the 'oh i am so different' crowd.
Good comment.
Imo:
Purchase the game - play through stories. Pay a yearly fee for the mmo aspect like CoD (e.g. $50). Buy the new content as DLC. No monthly sub = bigger market.
As a sub based game I see: purchase game, play a month or two, unsub. Come back for a month when EA release an xpac; play through xpac and content packs, unsub.
I stand by my belief that the Big Bang Theory isn't a show for nerds.
Its rather a show for people who like to laugh at nerds.
I think its more a show for people whos only other interaction with nerds is from hollywood. Because frankly thats all it is, the hollywood sterotype of nerds turned to 11 entirely played for laughs.
Playing
Nothing
waiting for
The secret world
Played
WoW, DCU online, star wars: the old republic, city of heroes, city of villains, everquest, plenty more I'm probably forgetting or aren't worth noting.
The point of discussing and giving opinions on a product are so you can pass on handy info to others. Does that restaurant have poor service and undercook their food - I'd hope that people who had a bad experience would tell me if they got the chance. Frankly, I'd be pissed at a friend who didn't warn me about a bad restaurant and had opportunity to tell me.
(also, we are not 'in' the restaurant so your analogy is a little off in that regard - that would be the equivalent of shouting ingame)
i post it as an irony to his.
Im upset with those guys that they think that all ppl must follow their opinions, and all others that they dont are the wrong ones, the bad, the evil.
We all have the right to say our opinion, good or bad and all must accept it, but this guy (and others like him) dont want to.
And nobody hates the game, they hate the devs, the company that create a very bad game
I don't think anyone said anyone else is "wrong" or "bad" or "evil"...and if they did they're morons. But I feel its more like a "If you don't like it, don't play it, and stop coming to forums dedicated to that game just to bash it" I mean really its the same kind of people who look up music videos of bands they hate on youtube just to insult them or their fans.
Playing
Nothing
waiting for
The secret world
Played
WoW, DCU online, star wars: the old republic, city of heroes, city of villains, everquest, plenty more I'm probably forgetting or aren't worth noting.
since they can are their right to do so
and i like ppl that come to game forums that they dont like and say their opinions and are specific, telling what is that thay dont like in it
and also is another way round in "If you don't like it, don't play it'' ''if you like it, stop coming here and play it''
ah and he is insult ppl calling them ''haters''
An MMO is a game. It's not a roast. It's not a bagel. It's not a car. It's a game.
And the resume' of a game is it's sales (and subs for an MMO), especially trends when you get past the fanboy-preorder/hype stage. Today is the 15th of March. For the week ending March 3, 2012, SWTOR sold about 20K units was 53rd in global sales as it's continuing its slide. In fact, Skyrim and Kindoms of Almunar both out-sold it.
For the record, game play hours are a valid modeling tool. Denial of this statistically valid modeling tool is just uninformed. WoW, for example, tracks gameplay like a hawk because it is the biggest predictor of future subscription losses. So get used to it.
At this point the only reason SWTOR hasn't announced server mergers is they need to wait past the end of their financial year. If they do it now, it'll have a HUGE impact come the end of year perception of Company performance and high-level executives could be pink-slipped. Give it until May, they'll be early in to the next fiscal year and they'll be less likely to be fired.
CEO behavior at its finest... Hide the bad as long as possible to keep your job safe, to heck with the company and the customers.
Holy shit, the most rational and coherent post I've ever read on these forums. I'd upvote you if I could, but quotation and imitation are the most sincere forms of flattery.
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
Not even close to true , no merges needed , the servers are bursting at all times - there are no light servers, no ghost town fleets , none.
If they needed more subs and were seeing retail sales falling off a cliff they would be pushing some free trial , some bring a friend invite , anything to get more subs to try and make it look like the trainwreck isn't coming.
We watched it and I said the same thing. I like the show but it really does have a lucrative option for showing geeks on 'games' for less than obvious advertisement. I am sure the show go a hefty $$ payday for doing what amounted to a almost nothing actually about the game. i think there was one 5 second shot of a character? (When the gf was showing off her new purple robes or something.)
Oh well.
Actually I see a bunch of hyperbole.
20k per week in addition to over 2M copies sold is freaking awesome for a MMO game. Sandbox MMOs wish they could do that type of sales.
Skyrim not only is for console, but just had its price dropped by 20 bucks. Thus you are comparing 2 different types of games(SP vs MMO), on different platforms, with different prices. Amalur just launched to 300 ish k sales according to Joystiq.com article. I would hope it sold more than 20k per week during its launch phase.
The "hater" spin is nothing new. We keep hearing it from the same folks. Each time they present as much bullshit as fact, and sometimes more. The post you quoted is the epitome of the nonsense being spouted.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
Dumb title, nonsense OP. I follow the show, and I cannot count the gazillion nerd and geek references that pass by in its episodes. SWTOR is currenty popular in geek and nerd circles, so it gets a reference in the show as well, just like many other now popular nerd topics.
Has nothing to do with marketing and everything with the theme of the show.
Age of Conan sold nearly one million copies, but that didn't mean much now, did it?
Those 2 million copies sold don't mean jack squat if they can't cover the actual cost of making the game with some reasonable return.
When you see a negative trend in subscribers within the first year the game launches, it doesn't portend anything good for that game. Name one game that had a steady trend of decreasing subscriber numbers within it's first quarter and didn't go niche/free to play?
That's right, it hasn't happened.
SW:TOR will never get a million subscribers, or even maintain more than 500k after a year. SWTOR launched with far too much competition. Whoever thought it'd be a great idea to launch a Starwars-themed WoW in the midst of nearly a dozen WoW-quality f2p titles to choose from should be bludgeoned with a tack hammer.
SW:TOR isn't a bad game, it's just asking a lot for anybody to pay a subscription for it. As a one-time purchase a la GW it would have done better.
It's just a shame bioware was involved. They just blew any opportunity they'll have in the near future to develop a major IP as an MMO, or any MMO for that matter.
This is a sequence of characters intended to produce some profound mental effect, but it has failed.
Wonder if their "weekend free pass" was intentionally set on the dates that it is to interup the CBT 3 for TERA...
I'm guna sit here and say it probably wasn't, but you know conspiracies...
Put through the personal paces of my crippled fingers.
Did you also notice that they appeared to have 5 people in their flashpoint group? The 4 guys and Bernadette.
Oopsy.
I never played Conan, but IIRC it is PVP focused is it not? TOR is PVE focused, and you can forget trying to compare the fanbase each type of game attracts. TOR has issues with PVP....PVE simply needs things added in. A number of game items are being added in 1.2, and beyond. Thus they will simply need to kick out PVE content after. SOmething EQ did, but WoW failed at.
The contention that TOR will never make 1M subs....it already did. Moot point. The 500k after a yr.....good point. I was already on record stating that with minimal updates, the game will drop to 400 or 500k subs in a yr. With a major type expansion worth of content, I have no clue how things will sit.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.