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Would it make a diffrence ?
jimmy123
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Why are the game spec's so low for WOW 256 of RAM ?...Why dont they higher it to 512 or 1G and require better Gcards.....
Surly this would make the game run smoother, you only need £30 to increase to 512 ( price of a game ) and £100 for a decent Gcard.
Are there any online games being made where you require 1G of Ram ? If there is i want to play them and see if they are less LAGGY...... If you could play on a server which is for 1G user's only would you get less lagg ?
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because its minimal to just run the game not have it run all smooth and lovey dovey. also 512 doesn't work that well with WoW. it is best with 1gb. also you sound like your computer is the best just because it has 1gb of rams. also there is no such thing as a 1gb server only. you act like your special.
I'm sorry, not everyone is like you, where they only care about themselves.
They do that so that they can get the average computer user. If they raised everything up to 1G of memory and a PIV 3G or higher with a 256M video card there would be a lot less users. They want as many as they can so they can make money. The game will run better with all this but you don't need it, that is why they call in minimum requirements.
Necrotank
Thank's for answering my question...... I suppose one day, if the designers dont higher system requirments then proffessional gamers will move on to console games.... like the new Playstation or X-box....Apparently the new consoles would be the same as running 2 6800GT Gcards.... If this is true then the graphic's will be amazing....
Oh yea, i never said there was a 1G server ? I said if there WAS a 1G server would the game play be smoother, If i drive a car and your driving a go-cart then why should i have to get stuck behind you travelling at your speed, why cant you drive in one lane ( slow ) and i travel in the other lane ( fast ) It's a matter of having the chioce...
I dont no alot about how online games work, I just had so much lagg with using 512 and now i have 1G it seem's to of helped, so based on this finding i thought if everyone used higher Ram then would this not make the game more enjoyable...
Jimmy im not sure I see what problem you are having with minimum spec's......a game is given minimum specs to give the buyer an idea of how their system will run it, and if their system will run it at all. I guess I just dont see why you have such a big problem with them or what raising them would accomplish.....
pfft consoles are so shit, i wil take a pc over it anyday, look at the xbox, its pratically a PC, its just plain stupid! a Xbox360 or PS3 I DONT CARE WHAT CONSOLE IT IS !!!
it wil never compare to the power of the PC
I think Jimmy is confusing PC lag with Server lag or network lag. They are three very different things.
If adding memory reduced your lag then what you had was PC lag. YOUR PC lag has little to no effect on me in MMORPGs. When you are fighting you might see your guy stutter, the enemie may freeze, etc. What I see when watching you is smooth combat. You might see somebody "teleport" around and blame lag but that is usually network lag, the PC says I am here, the server says I am there, them working it out causes the teleport. This is rarely the fault of their system specs.
Your example of the cars does not work quite right. Your PC is doing a lot of the work, the servers are doing a lot of the work, the only thing that travels "the road" is the communications between them. Put a mega video card, 2 gig ram and 4 CPUs in your PC then connect to a T1 and it will send the EXACT same amount of network traffic as some other guys minimum spec PC using dial-up if your doing the same things in the game.
I forgot to comment on the consoles.
If you look at the estimated prices of the consoles and their release dates I will be able to buy two 6800GT cards for my PC when the consoles come out and it will cost me less money. And don't forget that you will need a high-def TV to get the kind of picture the consoles can put out.
I am afraid I will have the same complaint with the new consoles I have with the current ones. The hardware specs are great, but there are so few games that make use of them. For every PS2 or XBox game that has made me say "WOW!" I can name 10 that made me say, "ho-hum". I bought my PS2 used when the price hit $100, I will do the same with the new consoles.
Adding RAM can improve performance, not lag. WoW needs 350mb just to run from boot up, it coninues to fill up your ram as you travel and add new textures and mobs to the storage. When your ram is filled up it may use virtual ram, slower, or start dumping less important info stored in ram. All of this takes more time. Having 1 gig of ram means it has more storage space and can often run the whole game without dumping info, so it will run smoother.
Improving the technology with make the game look better, better lighting, textures, shadows, more realistic reflections, animations... you want a high spec mmorpg? try Everquest 2.
The next Gen consoles, when released, MIGHT be twice as powerful as the average PC, maybe match the best, though I doubt it, but they are not scaleble. When you by your PC your can continue to upgrade it with more RAM, faster ram, processor, g card. If they make the console capable of playing mmorgps, at the same time as PCs, then good, more customers for the industry. Higher profile.
As for lag. That is caused by network bottle necks, and is beyond your control. The further away you live from the server where the game is hosted, the slower the game will be. For example, when I used to play everquest, the US servers were 19 hops away, on the other side of the atlantic, and avarege ping would be 200 plus. The UK server had a ping of 15 or less. This would mean that sometimes (US server)a group member would ask a question, and someone else would "seem" to answer in less than a second.
Most of the time even being so far away I would not get any noticable lag, but when one part of the network has problems then you do. If a large server goes down, and it's on your route, you'll get major lag, maybe not be able to play, whilst others in your guild have no trouble at all. Lag will only improve through better game server technology AND faster networks the world over.
Overwhelmed for the information you have provided for me... Thankyou very much, this has help my understanding about online games a little clearer... I thought it was due to slower systems which where playing on the same server which was making the game lagg more.
I spoke to a someone who had a low spec computer and say's in one hours game play of WOW he would get dissconnected 10 to 12 times.... I said there is no way i could play on a game where i would get dissconnected that many times. I normally get dissconnected everytime i hand in a quest or talk to a quest giver, but thats another story.... Thanks again
Someones ram being less than yours causes video lag. Not server lag. Their lack of 1gb of ram will not hurt your gameplay, only their own. Your annalogy about a go-cart doesnt fit here because your not being effected by their lack of ram.
If you are getting disconnected when delivering quests - its most likely your mod. Ive been using CTMOD for a while now, and only recently it started disconnecting me after delivering a quest. What you could do is delete CTMOD folder in your INTERFACE folder (just dont delede anything else or youw ill end up crippling WoW and you will have to reinstall it later). Then download and extract uptodate CTMOD (you can download from www.ctmod.net )
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
you can play this game perfect with 512 ram, dont let these tools fool you saying you need 1 gb.
1gb=overkill. The only time you will get some system lag, is in ironforge, and even then its only a brief pause if any while you load the 300 people standing right next to each other, after you inititally see em, guess what? no more lag.
512=recommended, 256=minimum, 1024=overkill
Well, 512mb is definitely enough, but 1gig is in no way an overkill I have 1 gig of ram, NVIDIA GT 9600 and I run WoW at max resolution, best graphics settings (everything is turned ON and to the max). And I dont lag at all... just sometimes when i port to Ogrimmar, I briefly lag for 5-10 seconds, after that, no lag period. I didnt have that effect with 512mb, although I had abit worse vid card too. So its hard to say how much exactly performance improved.
The point is, when your computer runs out of RAM, it begins working with virtual memory, thats where all those lag spikes (in crowded areas) appear. If you have enough Ram but your vid card sux, you will still get lag. The best thing is to find balance in between VIDCARD-RAM-CPU
If money is an issue, you gotta balance it out, so if you need advice, feel free to ask me, I will help as much as I can (I build my own computers from parts for the last 3 years).
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
The game used to run well on 512 ram (Back in Novemeber back when we had 200-400 people in queues to get logged on our server Blackhand) now u need a gig. Can you say poor coding with each patch? Less efficient software.
Its not necessary to have a gig, not even 512mb. It can run fine with 256 mb on medium to low graphics settings and you will lag only in big raids or in the city (oggrimmar or ironforge). I just recently upgraded to 1gig - i did see an improvement but WoW defintely was not unplayable with 512mb. So no, 1gig is not required to enjoy the game.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
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O.k people i have found out the cause of my constent dissconection's...... It appear's that BLUE YOUNDER ( my internet provider ) was at fault for 2 months and did not have the decency to OWN UP.... I am a first time internet user and didn't fully understand what was causing the problem, i presumed my p.c was at fault after being told by BLUE YOUNDER that there was nothink wrong but they would look into it ?
The problem is solved, i never dissconnect anymore and dosent lagg half as much now. My mate play's on a lower spec p.c than mine and he never had half the problems i had that's what made me wonder wether or not it was my p.c ? Everythink is cool now....Ill get back to slaughtering a few more kid's, whoop's i meant ALLIANCE.... POWER TO THE HORDE ......
Great news! Now post your name so I know who to pick from the horde zerg.... Cuase im on alliance... and i got a pretty fireball prepared for ya, no more excuses on disconnects MWAHAHAHA
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
Im very new to this internet stuff mate, i would love to post my warlock like you have done with your characters, but im affraid the characters in your link will need to be higher in there lvl's if you want to fry my boot's...