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  • ToferioToferio Member UncommonPosts: 1,411

    Originally posted by raff01

    Originally posted by deathshroud

     

     

    MO seems more like an amateurish auto generated 3D terrain where they are slowly addind detail.

    MOs terrain IS autogenerated, with them editing by hand most important places. But yeah, it kinda lacks a lot of details, foliage and points of interests.

  • phantomghostphantomghost Member UncommonPosts: 738

    aq quit the game... so your argument is invalid.

    So they quit within the last 5 days then...

    Wouldn't expect such a drastic change from the last time I logged on.

     

    And then if that is true.

     

    Then you can log on and expect to see maybe 3 people for hours/days/weeks/months/years.


  • NorpanNorpan Member CommonPosts: 319

    Originally posted by phantomghost

    aq quit the game... so your argument is invalid.

    So they quit within the last 5 days then...

    Wouldn't expect such a drastic change from the last time I logged on.

     

    And then if that is true.

     

    Then you can log on and expect to see maybe 3 people for hours/days/weeks/months/years.

    Ehh, no. Most of them quit weeks ago. You sure ain´t up to date with what´s going on ingame. That´s for sure. See 3 people for hours? Yeah, maybe if you run around lost in the jungle. Other then that, the population is really good atm. And AQ leaving has opnened up the political game even more, and new peeps can get involved even more if they choose to do so.

  • amadmanamadman Member Posts: 19

    There are still a few AQ running around. I have seen them myself. They put up a stone again and you can see the list in the Chronicles. Sure it is a lot less than it used to show but I think many on the old list were inactive anyway.

     

    "In MO, even the haters are hardcore!" - ltank

  • BetelBetel Member Posts: 365

    Originally posted by Norpan

    Ehh, no. Most of them quit weeks ago. You sure ain´t up to date with what´s going on ingame. That´s for sure. See 3 people for hours? Yeah, maybe if you run around lost in the jungle. Other then that, the population is really good atm. And AQ leaving has opnened up the political game even more, and new peeps can get involved even more if they choose to do so.

     

    The only fact we know about MO's population is that is has fallen every quarter since launch. We will have to wait for the next financial figures to know if that trend has changed, and you have no information to the contrary. Claims of "really good" population have been made before and have been wrong every single time (unless you count lower and lower player numbers as good of course).

     

     

     

     

  • NorpanNorpan Member CommonPosts: 319

    Originally posted by Betel

    Originally posted by Norpan



    Ehh, no. Most of them quit weeks ago. You sure ain´t up to date with what´s going on ingame. That´s for sure. See 3 people for hours? Yeah, maybe if you run around lost in the jungle. Other then that, the population is really good atm. And AQ leaving has opnened up the political game even more, and new peeps can get involved even more if they choose to do so.

     

    The only fact we know about MO's population is that is has fallen every quarter since launch. We will have to wait for the next financial figures to know if that trend has changed, and you have no information to the contrary. Claims of "really good" population have been made before and have been wrong every single time (unless you count lower and lower player numbers as good of course).

    I don´t know who has made those claims before, but I go with what I see, and I´ve played the game since BETA. And this is as close to as good as it was in release. You really only have to travel through Nave and visit some cities to figure this out. Having most of AQ leave, and you don´t notice any difference is only one example. But you have to have played the game through it´s ups and downs to notice the difference. Not be here and do the "crusade against SV"-forum war...

    And I promise to never type on MO forum here again if the numbers are lower next financial report than last time.

  • BetelBetel Member Posts: 365

    Originally posted by Norpan

    I don´t know who has made those claims before, but I go with what I see, and I´ve played the game since BETA.

    It was you (among others) making those claims -

     http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/4599346#4599346

    Oh and you have not played since beta, as in another post you claim to have quit and only come back for TC.

     

    And this is as close to as good as it was in release.

    You have no evidence of that and fellow players are saying you are flat out wrong. Even former supporters such as Deathshroud.

    You really only have to travel through Nave and visit some cities to figure this out. Having most of AQ leave, and you don´t notice any difference is only one example.

    You have evidence for increased numbers? No you don't and all the evidence says MO's population is in a death spiral.

     

    But you have to have played the game through it´s ups and downs to notice the difference. Not be here and do the "crusade against SV"-forum war...

    You didn't play the game either till TC. And all I need to do to know how MO is doing with population is to read SV's own financial reports, which show this game has lost customers and money since launch with no sign of that changing.

    As for the "crusade" comment, combating the lies from SV's viral marketing team is not a forum war but a public service :)

    And I promise to never type on MO forum here again if the numbers are lower next financial report than last time.

    Deal

     

  • RainBringerRainBringer Member Posts: 150

    Originally posted by Betel

    Originally posted by Norpan

    I don´t know who has made those claims before, but I go with what I see, and I´ve played the game since BETA.

    It was you (among others) making those claims -

     http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/4599346#4599346

    Oh and you have not played since beta, as in another post you claim to have quit and only come back for TC.

     

     

    That is a very good point.

    If a poster cannot even truthfully tell others for how long he has played this game and seeks to deceive his way out just to throw around some "vet" weight for the points he has to make then theres a high chance that anything else that he posts are also lies and mistruths as well.

    I too vauely remember him saying that he quit MO during beta for some reason or the other (like 99% of the people who did) and recently came back after the TC patch launched. Well enough theres that post in his own words in the quoted thread.

     

    I would like to see how Norpan weasels his way out of this one, since this lie pretty much invalidates his entire argument on this thread. This here is a good example for the OP and anyone else interested in the current state of MO, to see how fanboys inflate their pro-SV opinions using any underhanded methods possible. Truth be told, there might just be around 20odd more players subscribed to MO compared to last quarterly but posters like Norpan and that other guy, who claims MO got 20k (22k+) subs without any proof, just make you doubt and second guess if this minorly minor "boom" in population has actually happened or not. Ironically, the best way such people can voice their support for MO is by staying quiet without posting, since more harm than good is done by tunnel-vision impaired propaganda propagation.

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  • NorpanNorpan Member CommonPosts: 319

    Originally posted by RainBringer

    Originally posted by Betel


    Originally posted by Norpan

    I don´t know who has made those claims before, but I go with what I see, and I´ve played the game since BETA.

    It was you (among others) making those claims -

     http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/4599346#4599346

    Oh and you have not played since beta, as in another post you claim to have quit and only come back for TC.

     

     

    That is a very good point.

    If a poster cannot even truthfully tell others for how long he has played this game and seeks to deceive his way out just to throw around some "vet" weight for the points he has to make then theres a high chance that anything else that he posts are also lies and mistruths as well.

    I too vauely remember him saying that he quit MO during beta for some reason or the other (like 99% of the people who did) and recently came back after the TC patch launched. Well enough theres that post in his own words in the quoted thread.

     

    I would like to see how Norpan weasels his way out of this one, since this lie pretty much invalidates his entire argument on this thread. This here is a good example for the OP and anyone else interested in the current state of MO, to see how fanboys inflate their pro-SV opinions using any underhanded methods possible. Truth be told, there might just be around 20odd more players subscribed to MO compared to last quarterly but posters like Norpan and that other guy, who claims MO got 20k (22k+) subs without any proof, just make you doubt and second guess if this minorly minor "boom" in population has actually happened or not. Ironically, the best way such people can voice their support for MO is by staying quiet without posting, since more harm than good is done by tunnel-vision impaired propaganda propagation.

    Let me quote myself from the very same link, since you guys don´t seem to be able to read.

    "I can also say this for my own. From the time I returned to MO after the TC was introduced, I´ve had 5 friends trying the free trail. And they have ALL bought the game within a day. And I´ve played the game off and on from BETA, and now it´s more populated then in a long time".

    Where does it say I quit before TC? I never quit playing MO. I´ve been subbed since BETA.  I however took a break around a month before TC. And I´ve taken longer and shorter breaks like that also, when vacations etc hit. I don´t sit and play MO 24/7. I actually have a life outside MO. Believe it or not. Trying to say that I quit in BETA and came back for TC... Please. Need to get some reading comprehension first before you make up facts. But nice try.

    And let´s just wait and see what the next numbers show then. Cause you guys that don´t play only goes on old numbers, and us that play see the numbers raise, and it WILL show in the next report. My offer to stop writing here if it´s lower stands. To bad I can´t get you guys in on it to. ;) But I know what you will say already. "It´s only because of Awakening that the numbers are higher. Wait a month and everyone will have left etc". Let´s see who of you will write this first... I´m gonna come back here and quote myself then as well...

  • BetelBetel Member Posts: 365

    You said you had played since beta. You quite clearly, by your own words, have not. You stopped playing sometime between launch and TC and only returned once TC was released. Both of your statements cannot be true, which one is it?



    Also, why did you stop playing (for a length of time that is unknown, and your word is unreliable) when you keep trying to tell others to play the game?



    As for why your word is unreliable, you said you didn't know who was trying to claim increasing population when it was YOU months ago. Can you explain that, against the background of pro-SV posters constantly doing the same thing and being proven wrong every single time?





    Awakening may spike subs, but not in any meaningful way. There will still be less players than at launch or at the release of Dawn. The game is dying and the sooner this stain on MMO's is gone the better.



     

  • CaldrinCaldrin Member UncommonPosts: 4,505

    Recently started playing this after playing darkfall for over a year..

    I am really enjoynig the change of pace in the combat mechanics.. Darkfall was more of a FPS arena style combat really fast pased good fun as well but it has other issues like the devs and certain features they are talknig about adding thats basically gonna carebear the game..

    Anyway really enjoying MO at the moment i still suck in combat but im sure ill get the hang of it, seems to be tons of people in the main cities and tons of stuff to do..

    Got 3 characters now, my main melee fighter guy, weapon crafter and miner. I choose melee combat as thats what i like but there are archers and mages all over the place and they can do tons of damage so its not all about the melee..

    MO has bugs yes but nearly every MMORPG has, the dev team is pretty small so i expect things to get fixed at a slower pace no issues with that at all. Saying that the performance of the game is really good on my system and have no fps problems at all.

    At the end of the day MO is a FFA PVP sandbox game and its not going to be for everyone and will never be super popular because the majority of people cant handle being killed and ahving everything taken off them.

    If its not your type of game its pointless posting and complaining about it..

    Also from what i have been reading on the forums the population has been growing slowly since one of the big guild was wiped off the server.. now being only a month old i cant really comment on that but there are always nearly always 20-30 people in the main towns during EU prime time and even more when the US players get on.. then more people scattered aronud the world.. Seems active enough and i run into PVP quite a bit.. seems a lot more active than Darkfall was when i stopped playing on EU last month.

  • RefMinorRefMinor Member UncommonPosts: 3,452
    Originally posted by Caldrin

    Recently started playing this after playing darkfall for over a year..
    I am really enjoynig the change of pace in the combat mechanics.. Darkfall was more of a FPS arena style combat really fast pased good fun as well but it has other issues like the devs and certain features they are talknig about adding thats basically gonna carebear the game..
    Anyway really enjoying MO at the moment i still suck in combat but im sure ill get the hang of it, seems to be tons of people in the main cities and tons of stuff to do..
    Got 3 characters now, my main melee fighter guy, weapon crafter and miner. I choose melee combat as thats what i like but there are archers and mages all over the place and they can do tons of damage so its not all about the melee..
    MO has bugs yes but nearly every MMORPG has, the dev team is pretty small so i expect things to get fixed at a slower pace no issues with that at all. Saying that the performance of the game is really good on my system and have no fps problems at all.
    At the end of the day MO is a FFA PVP sandbox game and its not going to be for everyone and will never be super popular because the majority of people cant handle being killed and ahving everything taken off them.
    If its not your type of game its pointless posting and complaining about it..
     

     

    I wonder what people will make of your post, it's not often there is a sensible post on the MO forum.
  • BetelBetel Member Posts: 365

    That is exactly my kind of game and has been for 15 years. The simple fact is MO is a terrible product and game, an opinion shared by 99% of the people who have tried it. It has nothing to do with "not being hardcore enough", it's simpy that SV cannot code and have released something which can barely be described as a game given the amount of bugs it has.

     

    To take combat as an example, since you mention it, it has been broken since launch. Prediction is still not fixed and you cannot fight near buildings without massive warping and desync. It is simply not good enough even for a free game never mind one that charges premium prices for such a shoddy product.

     

    Another pro-SV poster saying population is on the rise too, when even Deathshroud says it is not true, and every other time the same tired line has been trotted it has been clearly wrong. A new script is needed methinks.

     

     

  • BetelBetel Member Posts: 365

    Originally posted by RefMinor

    I wonder what people will make of your post, it's not often there is a sensible post on the MO forum.

     

    He is using the same script that the SV fans have been using for years. Nothing new in it at all.

     

    People don't play as they are not hardcore enough - check.

     

    Small team so forgive them their complete inability to code - check

     

    Population rising! - check.

     

    And so on.

     

  • NorpanNorpan Member CommonPosts: 319

    Originally posted by Betel

    You said you had played since beta. You quite clearly, by your own words, have not. You stopped playing sometime between launch and TC and only returned once TC was released. Both of your statements cannot be true, which one is it?



    Also, why did you stop playing (for a length of time that is unknown, and your word is unreliable) when you keep trying to tell others to play the game?



    As for why your word is unreliable, you said you didn't know who was trying to claim increasing population when it was YOU months ago. Can you explain that, against the background of pro-SV posters constantly doing the same thing and being proven wrong every single time?





    Awakening may spike subs, but not in any meaningful way. There will still be less players than at launch or at the release of Dawn. The game is dying and the sooner this stain on MMO's is gone the better.

    Where do I say that I quit? I said I´ve played the game "off and on" since BETA. How hard is that to understand? I don´t play the game 24/7. I also play other games. So as I said, I took a BRAKE before TC, and I NEVER quit after BETA. But during this whole time I´ve been subbed to MO. Dunno where you guys pull these fact. But I guess it´s from a brown place.

    I answered to someone claiming it was "really good". I didn´t say that. I said it was better populated now then, or rather then after TC, then it has been since launch. It´s not me saying it is "really good", it´s me saying the population ingame is healthy and very much alive.

    And you can keep on dreaming that MO will shut down. People have tried to say this about SV since launch. But guess what? 2 years later, and it´s still up. But do try harder.

  • NorpanNorpan Member CommonPosts: 319

    Originally posted by Betel

     The simple fact is MO is a terrible product and game, an opinion shared by 99% of the people who have tried it.

    99% you say... Really? Why don´t you make a poll right here on MMORPG and we see what the outcome is shall we. Since you keep pulling your "facts" from brown places. So go ahead. You have my blessing. Make a poll and we see if 99 out of a 100 thinks MO is terrible. Don´t hesitate. Do it. I beg you. I can help you out. "Do you think MO is a terrible game?" Check here. "Do you think MO is a good game?" Check here. But be prepared to be disapointed...

  • BetelBetel Member Posts: 365

    Originally posted by Norpan

    Where do I say that I quit? I said I´ve played the game "off and on" since BETA.

    No, what you said was "came back for TC". That means you were not playing the game before TC, ergo had quit playing. No one is suggesting you play 24/7, but by you own admission you were playing 0/0.

     

     Dunno where you guys pull these fact. But I guess it´s from a brown place.

    That "brown place" is your own posts.

     

    I answered to someone claiming it was "really good". I didn´t say that. I said it was better populated now then, or rather then after TC, then it has been since launch. It´s not me saying it is "really good", it´s me saying the population ingame is healthy and very much alive.

    No, what you said was "it´s more populated then in a long time. Probably since release. So it sure seems the population is rising as of TC at least.". That was untrue (proven by SV's own figures) as was your claim of ignorance on the matter of who had a history of falsely reporting higher populations - you had done it yourself.

     

    And you can keep on dreaming that MO will shut down. People have tried to say this about SV since launch. But guess what? 2 years later, and it´s still up. But do try harder.

    It will shut down, and I stick by my original prediction. The game and company will end when the UE fee is due and daddy decides he won't pay it. If you look at their finances they have lost money every single quarter since launch, do you really think that is sustainable without Henrik's father bailing him out?

    When it does close and the employees are free to talk, this forum will be priceless :)

     

  • RefMinorRefMinor Member UncommonPosts: 3,452
    Originally posted by Betel


    Originally posted by RefMinor


    I wonder what people will make of your post, it's not often there is a sensible post on the MO forum.

     

    He is using the same script that the SV fans have been using for years. Nothing new in it at all.

     

    People don't play as they are not hardcore enough - check.

     

    Small team so forgive them their complete inability to code - check

     

    Population rising! - check.

     

    And so on.

     

     

    I was referring to you as well
  • BetelBetel Member Posts: 365

    Originally posted by Norpan

    Originally posted by Betel

     The simple fact is MO is a terrible product and game, an opinion shared by 99% of the people who have tried it.

    99% you say... Really? Why don´t you make a poll right here on MMORPG and we see what the outcome is shall we. Since you keep pulling your "facts" from brown places. So go ahead. You have my blessing. Make a poll and we see if 99 out of a 100 thinks MO is terrible. Don´t hesitate. Do it. I beg you. I can help you out. "Do you think MO is a terrible game?" Check here. "Do you think MO is a good game?" Check here. But be prepared to be disapointed...

     

    I don't need to do a poll to reach that figure. It is from SV's own financials, or do you think they are lying in those legally binding reports?

     

    Current players / clients sold = retentiion rate. Over 20000 bought the client yet we have a pop that is at most a few hundred. That does not even include those who did the trial and then thought the game was not worth buying.

     

    So yes, my facts are from SVs own figures, how do you like that? :)

     

  • NorpanNorpan Member CommonPosts: 319

    Originally posted by Betel

    Originally posted by Norpan



    Where do I say that I quit? I said I´ve played the game "off and on" since BETA.

    No, what you said was "came back for TC". That means you were not playing the game before TC, ergo had quit playing. No one is suggesting you play 24/7, but by you own admission you were playing 0/0.

     But then again. Read the other line, where I say "I´ve played the game off and on since BETA", meaning I have been PLAYING the game OFF and ON since BETA. And I have taken, and will take breaks as well. Don´t try to put words into it that ain´t there.

     Dunno where you guys pull these fact. But I guess it´s from a brown place.

    That "brown place" is your own posts.

    So apperantly, it´s your "brown place" after all..

    I answered to someone claiming it was "really good". I didn´t say that. I said it was better populated now then, or rather then after TC, then it has been since launch. It´s not me saying it is "really good", it´s me saying the population ingame is healthy and very much alive.

    No, what you said was "it´s more populated then in a long time. Probably since release. So it sure seems the population is rising as of TC at least.". That was untrue (proven by SV's own figures) as was your claim of ignorance on the matter of who had a history of falsely reporting higher populations - you had done it yourself.

     Well it´s not me saying it´s "really good" now is it? And with TC it did spike when it came. But this time it DID die fast. TC only spiked it periodicly. I can admit to this. But now we´ve seen the increase in new players for a long time, and there ain´t even a release that has brought them to the game. So I guess it will get alot better when Awakening comes out.

    And you can keep on dreaming that MO will shut down. People have tried to say this about SV since launch. But guess what? 2 years later, and it´s still up. But do try harder.

    It will shut down, and I stick by my original prediction. The game and company will end when the UE fee is due and daddy decides he won't pay it. If you look at their finances they have lost money every single quarter since launch, do you really think that is sustainable without Henrik's father bailing him out?

    When it does close and the employees are free to talk, this forum will be priceless :)

    But the beauty for them is they are only a 5-man crew. It doesn´t take alot for them to turn it around. And once they start adverticing the game and sell to China etc they will get more money. They haven´t done that yet, since they aren´t happy either at where the game is atm. But they are getting there dispite how badly you don´t wan´t this to happen...

     

     

  • NorpanNorpan Member CommonPosts: 319

    Originally posted by Betel

    Originally posted by Norpan


    Originally posted by Betel

     The simple fact is MO is a terrible product and game, an opinion shared by 99% of the people who have tried it.

    99% you say... Really? Why don´t you make a poll right here on MMORPG and we see what the outcome is shall we. Since you keep pulling your "facts" from brown places. So go ahead. You have my blessing. Make a poll and we see if 99 out of a 100 thinks MO is terrible. Don´t hesitate. Do it. I beg you. I can help you out. "Do you think MO is a terrible game?" Check here. "Do you think MO is a good game?" Check here. But be prepared to be disapointed...

     

    I don't need to do a poll to reach that figure. It is from SV's own financials, or do you think they are lying in those legally binding reports?

     

    Current players / clients sold = retentiion rate. Over 20000 bought the client yet we have a pop that is at most a few hundred. That does not even include those who did the trial and then thought the game was not worth buying.

     

    So yes, my facts are from SVs own figures, how do you like that? :)

    Sorry to brake your bubble. But more than 200 people or accounts are currently subbed to MO. But nice try. Once again...

  • BetelBetel Member Posts: 365

    Originally posted by Norpan

     But then again. Read the other line, where I say "I´ve played the game off and on since BETA", meaning I have been PLAYING the game OFF and ON since BETA. And I have taken, and will take breaks as well. Don´t try to put words into it that ain´t there.

    So you did not play the game consistently since launch. which is what I said. You came back to play only after TC. Why did you stop playing a game that you rate so highly? Because it is incredibly bugged? A GM destroyed your keep on a whim? Why?

     

    So apperantly, it´s your "brown place" after all..

    Nope, still yours :)

     Well it´s not me saying it´s "really good" now is it? And with TC it did spike when it came. But this time it DID die fast. TC only spiked it periodicly. I can admit to this. But now we´ve seen the increase in new players for a long time, and there ain´t even a release that has brought them to the game. So I guess it will get alot better when Awakening comes out.

    Who said anything about subjective terms like "really good"? You clearly said population was higher than any time since launch and SVs own figures show that was wrong. No response to you being caught out for having previous in this area I notice.

    But the beauty for them is they are only a 5-man crew. It doesn´t take alot for them to turn it around. And once they start adverticing the game and sell to China etc they will get more money. They haven´t done that yet, since they aren´t happy either at where the game is atm. But they are getting there dispite how badly you don´t wan´t this to happen...

    That  5 man crew is still losing money, showing just how low the population really is - it can't even pay for that.

    Chinese gamers have a multitude of games to choose from that are full PvP, why would they choose MO over those? Another pipe dream from Henrik;

     

     

     

     

     

  • NorpanNorpan Member CommonPosts: 319

    Originally posted by Betel

    Originally posted by Norpan

     But then again. Read the other line, where I say "I´ve played the game off and on since BETA", meaning I have been PLAYING the game OFF and ON since BETA. And I have taken, and will take breaks as well. Don´t try to put words into it that ain´t there.

    So you did not play the game consistently since launch. which is what I said. You came back to play only after TC. Why did you stop playing a game that you rate so highly? Because it is incredibly bugged? A GM destroyed your keep on a whim? Why?

    Well, since your memory ain´t that good let me help you out once more. I said I HAVE a life outside MO. I have a family, and from time to time we go on these things called vacations. And as I said as well, I play other games to. Strategy games like CIV 5, HoN, Zelda etc. Are you really that narrow minded that you think people that likes a game, will ONLY play this one game they like and no other games? Hence me playing MO "off and on"... Jesus... Is this really THAT hard to understand?

    So apperantly, it´s your "brown place" after all..

    Nope, still yours :)

    Read my response above. Says who has his head in dark places.

     Well it´s not me saying it´s "really good" now is it? And with TC it did spike when it came. But this time it DID die fast. TC only spiked it periodicly. I can admit to this. But now we´ve seen the increase in new players for a long time, and there ain´t even a release that has brought them to the game. So I guess it will get alot better when Awakening comes out.

    Who said anything about subjective terms like "really good"? You clearly said population was higher than any time since launch and SVs own figures show that was wrong. No response to you being caught out for having previous in this area I notice.

    I replied to you saying people keep claiming population is "really good". I said I haven´t done that. Scroll back and read again since you don´t remeber this either.

    But the beauty for them is they are only a 5-man crew. It doesn´t take alot for them to turn it around. And once they start adverticing the game and sell to China etc they will get more money. They haven´t done that yet, since they aren´t happy either at where the game is atm. But they are getting there dispite how badly you don´t wan´t this to happen...

    That  5 man crew is still losing money, showing just how low the population really is - it can't even pay for that.

    Chinese gamers have a multitude of games to choose from that are full PvP, why would they choose MO over those? Another pipe dream from Henrik;

    Thing is they were more employed before, so the cost for personal has gone down. And you do know China is quite big right? How many games do the asian audience have that is like MO? They have AA coming soon, but it still TAB-target etc. MO only need a few thousand people playing it to make profit. But we´ll just have to wait and see here as well.

     

     

     

     

     

  • BetelBetel Member Posts: 365

    Originally posted by Norpan

    Originally posted by Betel


    Originally posted by Norpan

    Well, since your memory ain´t that good let me help you out once more. I said I HAVE a life outside MO. I have a family, and from time to time we go on these things called vacations. And as I said as well, I play other games to. Strategy games like CIV 5, HoN, Zelda etc. Are you really that narrow minded that you think people that likes a game, will ONLY play this one game they like and no other games? Hence me playing MO "off and on"... Jesus...

    Your own quote said you "came back", that means an extended period of not playing - not a weekend jaunt with the family.

     

    Read my response above. Says who has his head in dark places.

    Yes, yes it does :)

     

    I replied to you saying people keep claiming population is "really good". I said I haven´t done that. Scroll back and read again since you don´t remeber this either.

    No, it was the claim population was rising. A claim you said you had no knowledge of.

     

    Thing is they were more employed before, so the cost for personal has gone down. And you do know China is quite big right? How many games do the asian audience have that is like MO? They have AA coming soon, but it still TAB-target etc. MO only need a few thousand people playing it to make profit. But we´ll just have to wait and see here as well.

     And those low costs are still not enough cost cutting for the company to break even.

    China has access to many PvP games, what is MO's USP that will make up for it's many, many shortcomings?

     

     

     

     

     

     

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