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GeekieDave
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So I've been contemplating on buying this game and seeing how it is but I wanted to get your guys feedback first. I've been playing WoW for about 5 years straight now and I've been loving playing as a tank. So my main question is if FF14 online would be worth the $20 or should I continue sticking with WoW and try to find another MMO to play?
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Not really. Its about 20% awesome 70% bad design and about 10% broken. I havnt played it in a while though. Very pretty, boring and linear are the words I would use to describe it.
I beta tested it when it first came out and it seemed alright but that was when the game was in beta lawls so i don't know if it'g gotten any better or worse since then
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Well the FFXIV you will play now is totally different than on release day. The game has made a huge number of improvments but its not quite perfect yet. The real game will be released with 2.0 which is coming at the end of the year. No matter what anyone tells you only you can be the judge if you will like it or not. Beware if your looking for WoW or something similiar this game is not for you. Try it yourself and see what you think. Just dont rely on reviews, every single one is irrelevant at this point.
I don't personally play it anymore but i think its worth getting into and sticking with. It can only get better.
I wish it was, but sadly no.
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I am currently playing "only because I got the game for $20" I will not be continuing after the first free month , The game in it current state is to confusing you need to studie for a week to learn the basic of how to play & then you still may have things wrong as alot of information you find online guides ect are incorrect now as the game has change so much allready
Crafting is a Nightmare ie if you wan't to play a weaver you will also nned to level mutible other crafting types like Botanists , I hate game where a Crafter has to rely on another crafter to level , Ow & there are no Recipie trainers , you jsut have to figure it out yourself I guess
Take my Weaver I get a Guildleve "quest" to make Hempen Yarn & the reward is 5x Moko Grass now to make the Hempen Yarn can you guess what you need ? Moko Grass but you can go out & harvest it I guess as a Botanist but I still have not harvested any by lvl 8 Botanist maybe i am looking in the wrong area
No auction House & no bank - you do have the retainer system though which is stupid & confusing
Interface is a nightmare - No drag & drop "thankfully its coming in 2.0
Grafix - I love em - no complaings here
No housing - coming in 2.0
Questing system - while its interesting its confusing " & having the word Guild build into your questing system just make it more confusing , every other MMO Guild mean one thing
Defination : an organization of persons with related interests, goals, etc., especially one formed for mutual aid or protection.
But in FFXIV its means Quests , really if you don't wan't to use the word quest just call em Leves not Guildleves
NPC - OMG I hate these the not marked you will see a few with a ! so you know he has a quest but most quests come from NPC with no indication there quest givers , Innkeepers not marked , shop keepers not marked, you have to virtually talk to ever npc in the game to tell when they do & then you have to remember what NPC does what .
Combat - I don't mind it but it can be better
World Size - Its massive I spent 3 Hours figuring out how to get around the first City
I recomend Buy the game now its cheap I got it for $20 then but it away & wait for 2.0 release
Believe me your not being rude your being very helpful , I appricate all the info you provided & look forward to have a more fun time in FFXIV
Thanks
I'm enjoying the game. Also they did just release Inn's which is pretty much housing. My personal opinion is it is but again that's just my own opinion.
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I know you are likely already in the process of or buying the game as I type this. I will just type it to tell you my own experience and try to keep it short. I read up on this game for a very long time before deciding to re subscribe and although I am having some fun with it, I do not plan to continue my subscription past the 30 days. I am currently level 23 Lancer and have 18 days to go on my subscription. I hope to reach 30 before I quit.
Here are some reasons why I will not stay with the game long term.
FFXIV is in my opinion FFXI without the polish, smooth game play, tons of variety of activities to do, and fully featured end game / leveling.
What FFXIV does right.
Graphics
Music
Ability to travel quickly
Art Design
Animations
Soloable right from the get go.
Now what in my opinion it does wrong...
Horrible solo game play that you can basically get in any F2P korean mmorpg grindfest. (Kill X number of Y mob for Z Reason...how innovative) <-- This is what you will be doing about 80% of the time. The other 20% you will be treated to what in my opinion is a very well animated and told lack luster story.
Lack of a warm and inviting community (Community is everything in mmorpg games, most FFXIV players from my experience have been more reserved and quiet than FFXI players, likely because of the game's style).
High system requirements and lag - The interface is very laggy compared to other mmorpg games, although it works very well with a gamepad I can't help but feel it is a bit uncomfortable and not made for a keyboard and mouse set up. Additionally you will likely experience quite a bit of lag in the game even if your system meets or exceeds the recommended system requirements. (This will be fixed later in the year once 2.0 releases)
So far that is all I have had the chance to see and really experience from the game. Yes you can play it and have some fun with it, but in the same way you can probably with any other mmorpg. FFXIV does not do anything spectacular right from the get go to grab the player, the controls could use work on pc, community seems more akin to a solo mmo than a gorup oriented one, and the ability to solo is really not much more than quests that were in place in F2P Korean grind fests in 2004.
You probably hear this a lot but, its just not worth buying right now.
Well personaly I can't relate to this at all. The community is oriented to a solo MMO? Maybe because that is all you chose to do.
The FFXIV community is probably the most group oriented of any MMO since FFXI that I have played. While I have struggled to find leveling parties in just about every MMO launched since 2005, I see them constantly forming in Ul'dah and leveling out in the world here in FFXIV. The rewards for grouping are so great that very few people choose to solo over grouping even in a pick up group with strangers. I can understand it can be hard to find others for a party at such a low level, and 23 only takes 8-10 hours at the most solo, so a level 23 has not made significantly more progress really with a class than a level 5 and is still very low level. This is always difficult in an MMO that has been out for over a year (though less of a problem in XIV because of the armory system), but they can most definitely be found.
Once you find a decent party you will progress exponentially faster than you would solo, and as you reach higher levels groups are more common. Once you are in the 40's, where the leveling curve begins to steepen a bit you should be able to find a party at any time of the day just about which in one sitting at someplace like Natalan can get you from 43-50.
FFXIV has a lot of problems, but blaming the community/game for a lack of groups when this is one of the only modern MMO's that actually goes out of its way to support leveling through groups I don't agree with. And while soloing is pretty montonous as a last resort it at least isn't a long grind. Playing solo you can still take any class to 50 in a little over a week using guildleves you have stored up. When not doing that you can do quests for the Grand Companies/Class/Main Storyline which all rewards significant exp and is completely soloable.
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If you have the patience I would say wait until 2.0. If you didn't like the game in beta chances are you wont notice a huge difference, the current changes so far are more noticeable to those who continued to stick with the game then those who are returning to it.
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I grew up with Final Fantasy playing 1 - 9 on consoles. THough I love the (simplicity?) of the earlier games I am a huge fan. I wanted to try FFIV but heard so many bad rumors at launch.
While fairly new to MMOs (my first was SWTOR) I instantly became bored with that title and branched out to everything from EQ2 to Eden Eternal. I have found my taste in MMO revolves around the combat.
With that... how is the combat in FFIV? Is it tab/hotkey combat? Is it quick? Can I click my abilities or must I push numbers? Can I move while I fight?
Just curious
Posted in a different thread:
"FFXIV has a slower pace to it, and encourages threat and MP management over rotation spam. Positioning is key for multiple combos, and becomes problematic when you have to execute things from in front of a target that cleaves, or in the case of the Chimera, just about any side of his body. Threat isn't a guarantee and so everyone has to be ready to deal with aggro and survival, and in cases such as the Myrmidon Princess, black mages / thaums have to be on the ball timing their AOEs without going OOM in order to keep the adds off of the healers. The ability to raise mid-combat is also accounted for, and changes the dynamic quite a bit compared to WoW where you only get one battle-rez every...what is it now, 15 minutes? Yes, the game also employs some environmental / "get out of the fire" mechanics, most obviously seen in the Ifrit battle, but the basic demands of the combat system are different enough"
I'd suggest just waiting until 2.0 though.
I'm in the same group that I'm just completely torn on starting or not.
I used to love FFXI. And I was hoping, like most of us, that FFXIV would essentially be a revamped FFXI, or an FFXI-2 if you will.
I'm trying to figure out if it's worth putting the time in now, to essentially benefit from when 2.0 comes out. To really learn the game, and then when this "upgrade" comes out, I will be seasoned in at least the mechanics of it, so I won't be so far behind the 8-ball.
I know that no matter what I will be playing when 2.0 comes out, so I guess I'm trying to decide if I should just start now, or simply wait because it's awful right now.
I know it comes down to my personal opinion and view of the game, but I would love to hear any input if someone is willing, or even if you had some experience from my viewpoint.
I've been trying to play this game this month with the new patch. But...the first 20 levels of this game just bite and that is per job. Literally just grinding and it's not fun. It's lacking something FFXI had when grinding those same levels, not sure what it is whether it's immersion or lack of population(probably this). In FFXI I could always find someone to party with past level 10 or now have the option to go to Gusgen Mines and PL quickly. In FFXIV...I've met one person and it seemed to slow me down more than speed up my leveling process at the early levels.
Really hoping something changes by 2.0 in this regard or this game is dead to me. Maybe combat or movement will be more fluid, running around won't feel like such a chore or something..I don't know.
My advice, wait for 2.0.
No.
The combat is painfully slow and is mostly spent auto attacking so you can get up and get a drink during a fight and you'll still win.
All the fights I had were easy. I don't remember ever even coming close to dying.
The cut scenes get annoying after about 10 minutes.
There very little interaction with other players that I saw. There were other players around but everyone was doing their own thing. The chat channels were usually talking about completely arbitrary things (nothing to do with the game).
I got the game for like $10-15 so I don't feel like I was robbed but it doesn't do the franchise any justice.
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Thanks a lot for a response.
It's such a bummer. I wanted this game basically to be an upgraded version of FFXI. Essentially FFXI with better graphics, updated UI, and just a different storyline.
It's really unfortunate. FFXI managed to make me feel like I accomplished something of importance when I obtained a rare piece of gear, and FFXIV sounds like it's simply a drag to play.
I think I will take your advice and wait until a Free Trial comes around or 2.0 comes out, whichever comes first.
Another thing I saw mentioned, but I currently have an ATI HD 4850 card. Is it true that I would hardly be able to run the game or have they addressed some of those issues?
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I might come back to FFXIV after the 2.0 rerelease. Right now it's unintuitive and at times feels like a game made by a team that's never played an MMO imo. You'd think they would have understood what made FFXI so great for so long and built on that but they didn't.
I'll stop there before I open any old wounds, lol.
That's what a lot of us were hoping for and it broke my heart.
I feel your pain my firend, 2 years I was devoted to the FFXIV community, only for FFXIV to break my heart
Yep, same feelings here as well. Was hoping they would keep the awesome immersion and gameplay of FFXI but give us better UI, controls, character feedback, new story and better graphics. I had always wanted FFXI to play like WoW, control and character feedback wise, but keep the rest of partying, mob agro mechanics, missions, quests that mean something etc.
Instead we got a skeleton framework of a game that forgot all the conventions of the past decade in MMORPG growth and even it's own predecessor, FFXI's nuances that made it special. So sad.
Good news though, today FFXI had a new patch that actually added a new control scheme that from the patch notes, looks like they are modernizing the controls. I'm seriously contemplating resubbing to FFXI.
Wow I didnt know they did a live stream of FFXI on youtube.
Just staring at this makes me want to go back
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Is it just me, or does the music alone just draw you in. It's like a long lost friend calling your name. You just want to go up to them and say 'hey, long time we need to catch up.'