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War type game.

So I got to thinking, wouldnt it be cool for a game, of any genre or type, to have a real life war in it? I have played SWG and I was looking at LOTRO when I thought of this. In both those games, no matter what, the fact is that the rebel aliance defeats the empire, and the good guys defeat the bad guys in lord of the rings. So what about a game where the actions of the players actually affects the war? I was thinking maybe a nice fantasy game where you can see hundreds of players fight aside you and against you on a huge battlefield.

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  • YoruyonakaYoruyonaka Member Posts: 43

    Didn't some game do this already? It's the one where ppl who like it always talk about realm vs realm. But it had sucky grahpics.

    That's the thing, anything like this is going to have horribly low detail and crappy combat. Or more than likely. Why? Because the netcode can't HANDLE hundreds of ppl fighting alongside each other. T hat's the whole point of a mmo, but the tech can't even handle it. You really don't get battles much larger than you would see in a normal fighting game, cuz otherwise you get lagged to hell.

    Hell, i've seen larger fights in Battlefield 2 than i've ever seen in a MMO :)

    Remember kids, when you see the lava coming, duck and cover!!!

  • rumandmonkeyrumandmonkey Member Posts: 57

    Still, if there cant be huge battles...yet...why not a game where the things you do actually matter? Everything is too scripted.

  • LaserwolfLaserwolf Member Posts: 2,383

    I would suggest you look at World War II Online. Though I haven't played it since it came out I found it to be what you describe and I hear it got only better with time.

     

    Planetside is similar but I wouldn't recommend that to anyone. Maybe it was great at the start but it is total crap now.

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  • ErmacErmac Member Posts: 103

    I think it is called WWII online and Planetside.

  • rumandmonkeyrumandmonkey Member Posts: 57



    Originally posted by Laserwolf

    I would suggest you look at World War II Online. Though I haven't played it since it came out I found it to be what you describe and I hear it got only better with time.
     
    Planetside is similar but I wouldn't recommend that to anyone. Maybe it was great at the start but it is total crap now.



    We all know who wins WW II though. Atleast I hope we do.
  • LaserwolfLaserwolf Member Posts: 2,383



    Originally posted by rumandmonkey
    We all know who wins WW II though. Atleast I hope we do.


    Yes yes of course I do........errr it was the Klingons right?

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  • rumandmonkeyrumandmonkey Member Posts: 57
    Now theres a game Id like to see, the Klingons vs the Hobits In an all out modern day war, with an availiable jedi class as well.
  • TzaleTzale Member Posts: 143


    Originally posted by rumandmonkey
    Originally posted by Laserwolf
    I would suggest you look at World War II Online. Though I haven't played it since it came out I found it to be what you describe and I hear it got only better with time.

    Planetside is similar but I wouldn't recommend that to anyone. Maybe it was great at the start but it is total crap now.We all know who wins WW II though. Atleast I hope we do.

    Yeah, whoever is fighting better. If you are trying to say the allies are the only ones who will win, then you are wrong. Playing on the axis forces doesn't make you a NAZI. Most German soldiers were really just young teenagers being forced into a war that they didn't want to fight. My grandfather was an American soldier and he was a messenger. He used to run through the woods in France and Belgium and there was a German guy who he used to talk to. This guy was a sniper, but he didn't kill my grandfather even though he could have a 1000 times. This just goes to show you that not every soldier in WWII Germany was an evil Nazi. They may have worn the Swastika, but that didn't make them one of Hitlers Satan lovers.

    -Tzale

  • ianubisiianubisi Member Posts: 4,201


    Originally posted by Yoruyonaka
    Why? Because the netcode can't HANDLE hundreds of ppl fighting alongside each other.

    Network code is not the reason this cannot be done easily. The problem is 3D polygon counts rendered in the average video card. It would be a massive video lagfest.

  • warzone100warzone100 Member Posts: 63



    Originally posted by rumandmonkey
    So I got to thinking, wouldnt it be cool for a game, of any genre or type, to have a real life war in it? I have played SWG and I was looking at LOTRO when I thought of this. In both those games, no matter what, the fact is that the rebel aliance defeats the empire, and the good guys defeat the bad guys in lord of the rings. So what about a game where the actions of the players actually affects the war? I was thinking maybe a nice fantasy game where you can see hundreds of players fight aside you and against you on a huge battlefield.


    There are maney MMOs where the PVP determines that out come of the war.

     

    UO has factions that fight over cities

    DAoC theres realms that fight over keeps

    PLanet side has factions that fight over continents

    Lineage2 you fight over castles

    I think you can take planets for you faction now in SWG

    World War 2 online you are obviusly fighting over europe and you take cities

    Knight Online I think theres some for of keeps or towns or something you can take

    Shadowbane you can take cities other players made

    Helbreath I think ther two cities fight every so offten

    Dark and Light you will be fighting over land and sieging cities

    Artifact is a MMORTS where you fight over artifacts

    Time of Defiance is a MMORTS where you basicaly just conqueer other players

    Shatered Galaxies is a MMORTS where you join a empire and fight over land in a giant war

    Ballerium is a MMORTS where you fight over controll of cities

    in Age of Connan I belive you can fight over player cities in some form but I think consent must be given

     

    There are many many more these are just a few of them.

  • Jimmy-RaynorJimmy-Raynor Member Posts: 13
    Yea, I agree. I want an FPS where what i do matters, not just a 10 minute round. There are afew game coming out, Tabula Rosa in winter, but from what I heard its Static World PvE, so anything you do could be taken out at the Creators whim. For what I can tell, the game Huxley is looking really sweet. Its still in infant stages, not coming out till 9/06, so details are sketcky, but from the info its looking...well, bitchin. Anyway, if you want a nice FPS co op game for the PC, which up to date doesnt exist, and its not an MMO, check out Starship Troopers. Playable demo on sept. 1 and game later in early winter. Like I said, its not an MMO, but it has 3 co op levels built in with tools for the User to make their own co op levels, so...Its not long term, but its not a ten minute round either. plus its mowing down hordes of Bugs in co op.
  • rumandmonkeyrumandmonkey Member Posts: 57
    No offence, but I didnt really ask for a history lesson I already knew. What does teenagers unwillingly fighting a war under a name they didnt believe in have to do with a made up war that players can actualy control? No flame intended, your post just kinda anoyed me.
  • Jimmy-RaynorJimmy-Raynor Member Posts: 13
    Yea...Deppresing. anyway, TR, Huxley, and SST, whatcha think. *edit* and fallen earth. I failed to mention it because it was p2p and the other two arnt announced yet, I pray their not. ST isnt cause it aint an MMO.
  • hazmatshazmats Member Posts: 1,081


    Originally posted by Jimmy-Raynor
    Yea, I agree. I want an FPS where what i do matters, not just a 10 minute round.


     

    You basically described WWIIOL.  What you and your team matters quite a bit.  Hundreds of towns to take over.  1 map lasts over a month on many occassions.  Graphics aren't the best, but has a 6km viewing distance, so can't have bf2 graphics where you see well under 1k.

    Infantry is much like other FPS's, however it takes 1 shot to die 99% of the time.  Most equipment is simulator-esqe, in the sense that it has realistic damage models (no hit points, or in other words, if the round is strong enough to penetrate 50mm of metal for example, then you got a shot at killing the crew inside that panzer)  and also with a lot of controls (such as gears, engine start, and trim, flaps and other things on aircraft).

    battles usually contain 100+ players with a number of battles across europe at any given time. 

    Anywho, is a fun game, just thought i would let you know about it

    www.battlegroundeurope.com for more info

  • Jimmy-RaynorJimmy-Raynor Member Posts: 13
    Yea well WW2OL looks good but, its older and the communtiy is so ingrained Id feel outside. I want something fresh, ya know? anyway isnt it pay to play as it is?
  • hazmatshazmats Member Posts: 1,081

    yea, it's a mmorpg/FPS, so like most other such games, it's pay to play.  Steep learning curve, but best 'newb friendly' community there is.  Game is just being rereleased so will be tons of new players. 

    just a suggestion.  seeing lots of green tags (new players) out of the battlefield recently.  So us vets are expecting questions and being very helpful.

    just throwing it out there : )

  • Sparks243Sparks243 Member Posts: 271

    FFXI has it's Conquest system where the number of conquest points earned by the nations determines who owns what zones for the next week.

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