" 1.1.5 will temporarily add a new vendor that will sell previously unavailable endgame crystals for credits "
Selling end-game contents in vendor...
I really wish people would stop crying. It doesn't matter dude, it's a GAME. Emphasis on GAME. If you want to go around showing off how you no lifed one minor a addon in a game, go play Darkfall or something.
I'm personally glad they're selling these items. Now players who do not want to sit there click spamming for hours a day, upon weeks can also have cool items. Nice move Bioware.
what are you doing there now then?buying these crystals all day long and that makes you glad ? no need to "click spam" hours a day,is it so painful to play that game ?
I think you're a bit upset that people who consider "clicky clicky spam" for hours a day are now being shunned. I don't even see how from there it affects you? You're upset someone can easily get something? If you want to "play the game" you go raid hours upon hours and get your copy.
I'm sure that method won't be removed for you people who "play the game".
so it is pretty painful to play that game then.
you easily get that "something" and you dont use it ,because you dont want to "clicky clicky spam"
why do you even buy those things?
So clicking and spamming bosses for hours upon hours, every day a week, for several weeks is playing the game and me enjoying PVP, socializing, etc is not? Again you've made it clear from the beginning (and still ignore this topic) of how you're upset that people like you who spend weeks of their life in a dungeon click spamming a boss will no longer be "special" and won't only have the cool crystals.
The sad part is, this is what makes the changes in 1.1.5 so miserable from a PvP players perspective. Yes, it is a step in the right direction but... What you, and so many have done here, going from ding 50 to dominating PvP in less than 5 days with your PvE gear, will now take a dedicated PvP player months to accomplish when trying to dominate in like PvP gear.
Now I'm not saying the changes are bad, quite the opposite as I was one of the people on the official forums asking for these exact changes since launch. I'm happy they are coming in. But knowing I will be up against people who say I need no skill to get my BM set when they walk on the field after 3 days of PvE with better gear than I can get in 4 weeks doing PvP kinda chaps my ass a bit.
Ya, I hear ya. The PvP gear should be equally as easy to obtain as the PvE gear imo, but one side of the game should not provide a distinct advantage over the other. So in that regards, I'm completely happy with not being destroyed in PvP even though I'm a new 50, since I've got the skill to survive and thrive. But I do think that PvP gear should be just as easy to obtain, for the gamers that do not like even doing the PvE side of things at all, they shouldn't be punished with a lot longer gear grind.
I want a game that has no real CC to speak of, with maybe only minor stuns and diminishing returns, with no PvP stats on gear, that is purely skill based PvP. I'm hoping TERA is that way, since it involves actually having to time your attacks since you have to sit through their animations, and also to actually dodge and/or block incoming attacks, and to aim your attacks and spells/arrows.
It's called every console game for the last 15 years.
I wish the PvP "skill" people would go back to their consoles, they would be happier and us PvE people will not get nerfed/watered down classes.
" 1.1.5 will temporarily add a new vendor that will sell previously unavailable endgame crystals for credits "
Selling end-game contents in vendor...
I really wish people would stop crying. It doesn't matter dude, it's a GAME. Emphasis on GAME. If you want to go around showing off how you no lifed one minor a addon in a game, go play Darkfall or something.
I'm personally glad they're selling these items. Now players who do not want to sit there click spamming for hours a day, upon weeks can also have cool items. Nice move Bioware.
what are you doing there now then?buying these crystals all day long and that makes you glad ? no need to "click spam" hours a day,is it so painful to play that game ?
I think you're a bit upset that people who consider "clicky clicky spam" for hours a day are now being shunned. I don't even see how from there it affects you? You're upset someone can easily get something? If you want to "play the game" you go raid hours upon hours and get your copy.
I'm sure that method won't be removed for you people who "play the game".
so it is pretty painful to play that game then.
you easily get that "something" and you dont use it ,because you dont want to "clicky clicky spam"
why do you even buy those things?
So clicking and spamming bosses for hours upon hours, every day a week, for several weeks is playing the game and me enjoying PVP, socializing, etc is not? Again you've made it clear from the beginning (and still ignore this topic) of how you're upset that people like you who spend weeks of their life in a dungeon click spamming a boss will no longer be "special" and won't only have the cool crystals.
Yeah.. sounds about right.
now that wasn´t so hard to say,wasnt it?you buy those things for socializing,nothing wrong with that.How do you use those crystals for socializing?ask from peeps "look what i got? those crystals looks creally cool when equipped?" or whats the catch?this is quite interesting.
" 1.1.5 will temporarily add a new vendor that will sell previously unavailable endgame crystals for credits "
Selling end-game contents in vendor...
I really wish people would stop crying. It doesn't matter dude, it's a GAME. Emphasis on GAME. If you want to go around showing off how you no lifed one minor a addon in a game, go play Darkfall or something.
I'm personally glad they're selling these items. Now players who do not want to sit there click spamming for hours a day, upon weeks can also have cool items. Nice move Bioware.
what are you doing there now then?buying these crystals all day long and that makes you glad ? no need to "click spam" hours a day,is it so painful to play that game ?
I think you're a bit upset that people who consider "clicky clicky spam" for hours a day are now being shunned. I don't even see how from there it affects you? You're upset someone can easily get something? If you want to "play the game" you go raid hours upon hours and get your copy.
I'm sure that method won't be removed for you people who "play the game".
so it is pretty painful to play that game then.
you easily get that "something" and you dont use it ,because you dont want to "clicky clicky spam"
why do you even buy those things?
So clicking and spamming bosses for hours upon hours, every day a week, for several weeks is playing the game and me enjoying PVP, socializing, etc is not? Again you've made it clear from the beginning (and still ignore this topic) of how you're upset that people like you who spend weeks of their life in a dungeon click spamming a boss will no longer be "special" and won't only have the cool crystals.
Yeah.. sounds about right.
now that wasn´t so hard to say,wasnt it?you buy those things for socializing,nothing wrong with that.How do you use those crystals for socializing?ask from peeps "look what i got? those crystals looks creally cool when equipped?" or whats the catch?this is quite interesting.
Again, i'm not effected. You keep denying your everlasting butthurt of "I wont be special online". Just fess up.
Again, i'm not effected. You keep denying your everlasting butthurt of "I wont be special online". Just fess up.
Now this gets really interesting,so you feel somehow special when you buy those things and glad,theres nothing wrong with that either, bioware does a great job delivering peeps this feeling ,just click and you feel special and glad.
"As an aside, I’m also disappointed that the restrictions on color crystals for Light/Dark side users have been removed in 1.1.5. I realize this has always been a controversial issue, but I imagine the influx of hipster Sith wielding blue lightsabers and Jedi wielding red lightsabers just to be ironic is going to annoy me a bit."
@Mike: Why so serious? I mean, seriously. It's a GAME. I mean, I know I always had the endless debates in LOTRO with the Tolkien loremongers "THIS wasn't in LOTR!" But good riddance, its a GAME, it's not a "Star Wars reenacment museum"! And even then, by WHAT logic is purple limited to evil? That totally makes no sense, even for a loremonger. Purple was the colour of the Light Side Jedi Mace Windu. Given his Vapaad it would be grey maybe. And white and cyan were never connected to any side.
My Sith wears a blue LS, but I am not a hipster! I followed the light side as Sith Inq. because I deeply felt it was fitting to my role! It was no moody or random decision! I feel this entire sentence was a bit derogatory. I dont speculate what motivates OTHER LS Sith, if it is such a fleeting and mindless "hipster" thing for them. But I would never dare to assume to know. For me the blue LS and light side was a profound and important role decision. If I could I would have changed sides with a betrayal quest or joined a grey group of force wielders, but SWTOR doesn't have that.
More choice is always good, and sorry but... we are not a Star Wars museum. EVEN THOUGH the game often feels like that. But that's another topic for another day.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Swtor is dying they make enormous error during the devellopment of the game,small planets,useless craft,only two factions,engine not optimised,tons of bugs,interactive dialog useless (space bar,space bar..).
Starwars game? No mos eisley? No wookie? Can't sit down in cantina? So many miss the list is so huge.....
If you actually watched Star Wars you would know Hans Solo was in fact a dark side kinda guy. Hans Solo served in the imperial military and left to become a smuggler. In a famous bar scene Hans Solo fires on Greedo and kills him before Greedo can even get off a shot indicating that he's a "shoot first ask questions later" kinda guy. In the "remasters" bullshit version of Star Wars they actually clean up Hans Solo quite a bit. Included is adding in a new special effect to show that Greedo in fact shot Hans and Hans somehow magically dodged a beam that shoots at the speed of light.
The red beam fire is the make of the weapon and is supposed to indicate who are the bad guys and who are the good guys. This is similar to how all bad guys seem to have red light sabres and all good guys have green, blue, and purple light sabres.
Hans Solo's story is so great because he is an anti-hero and maybe one of the first ones. He is a guy who is looking out for himself and somehow saves the day every time.
One of my favorite parts of Knights of the Old Republic was how when you made dark side choices your flesh would deteriorate while if you are light side you have a radiant aura. Light side/dark side should have SOME effect on the game. If it is just a cosmetic choice that is more than fine by me.
If you watched Star Wars AND played the game...
You'd know that Han Solo, while being something of an anti-hero, would be a LS Smuggler in TOR. He's more than willing to scam a fellow scoundrel, but he wouldn't, say, steal medicine from innocent people for credits. The Smuggler class quests follow a similar moral view.
You are also wrong about the red beam fire. In the very beginning fight in ANH, both sides had red blaster fire. I guess the rebels were darkside, too? And the ships blasters were the other way around: Imps were green, rebels red.
I'm all for EFFECTS regarding LS/DS choices, but restrictions are pointless, particularly in this category. Even if the whole color code was actually, it's not like you wouldn't be able to USE a weapon. It's just silly.
..... And either way, if I were Sith, I would use a blue saber for the sole purpose of pissing off Jedi!
Quoted for epicness. It is so Sith it makes more sense than using red sabers.
No it does not. First of all Jedi's would be far to disciplined to care about color of sabres and second Sith does not care about pissing people of, they care about dominating and subdueing them.
Says you. This jedi is MY character. He is as disciplined as I CHOOSE for him/her to be.
So from SW:TOR Sith, which is a bit childish and simplistic I would say, it could make sense but from Star Wars Sith/Jedi, no way.
Yes way. Jedi gain power from calm, and Sith from hate. A Sith's best weapon against a jedi would be to unnerve them. Make them lose their focus. In the meantime, it shows disdain, and yes, HATE toward jedi teachings.
If you actually watched Star Wars you would know Hans Solo was in fact a dark side kinda guy. Hans Solo served in the imperial military and left to become a smuggler. In a famous bar scene Hans Solo fires on Greedo and kills him before Greedo can even get off a shot indicating that he's a "shoot first ask questions later" kinda guy. In the "remasters" bullshit version of Star Wars they actually clean up Hans Solo quite a bit. Included is adding in a new special effect to show that Greedo in fact shot Hans and Hans somehow magically dodged a beam that shoots at the speed of light.
The red beam fire is the make of the weapon and is supposed to indicate who are the bad guys and who are the good guys. This is similar to how all bad guys seem to have red light sabres and all good guys have green, blue, and purple light sabres.
Hans Solo's story is so great because he is an anti-hero and maybe one of the first ones. He is a guy who is looking out for himself and somehow saves the day every time.
One of my favorite parts of Knights of the Old Republic was how when you made dark side choices your flesh would deteriorate while if you are light side you have a radiant aura. Light side/dark side should have SOME effect on the game. If it is just a cosmetic choice that is more than fine by me.
If you watched Star Wars AND played the game...
You'd know that Han Solo, while being something of an anti-hero, would be a LS Smuggler in TOR. He's more than willing to scam a fellow scoundrel, but he wouldn't, say, steal medicine from innocent people for credits. The Smuggler class quests follow a similar moral view.
You are also wrong about the red beam fire. In the very beginning fight in ANH, both sides had red blaster fire. I guess the rebels were darkside, too? And the ships blasters were the other way around: Imps were green, rebels red.
I'm all for EFFECTS regarding LS/DS choices, but restrictions are pointless, particularly in this category. Even if the whole color code was actually, it's not like you wouldn't be able to USE a weapon. It's just silly.
Sorry but... this is Bioware-Bullshit.
Light and Dark side are properties of the Force, NOT moral coordinates. The Force has the effect to be influenced by emotions of the Force user. Hence if a Sith/Jedi or other Force user follows certain emotions the Force causes a feedback, strengthening him/her in a certain path. If one does an action out of anger or mercy, it gives a feedback echo on the user. For a Force insensivite or minor sensitve person like Han, Chewie, Boba Fett asf Light and Dark side are of zilch consequence. That is bullcrap Bioware made up and actually make no sense at all. It is illogical to think of light/dark as morality. Light/Dark is a purely technical thing. Certain emotions cause certain feedback results in the energynet of the Force. How you morally qualify them is a totally different matter. Thus the moral of a non-force users is no aligned to the light/dark side at all.
The restrictions are pointless because there is no logical reason why a Sith MUST use a red lightsaber or a Jedi no red lightsaber. They would be looked at with raised eyebrows maybe, but thats all, especially in this early SW period long before the "rule of two", where the line between Jedi and Sith was way thinner anyway.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Again, i'm not effected. You keep denying your everlasting butthurt of "I wont be special online". Just fess up.
Now this gets really interesting,so you feel somehow special when you buy those things and glad,theres nothing wrong with that either, bioware does a great job delivering peeps this feeling ,just click and you feel special and glad.
You realize, it's the same thing you're doing right? You're just clicking, but on a life-less scale. See the difference there?
If you actually watched Star Wars you would know Hans Solo was in fact a dark side kinda guy. Hans Solo served in the imperial military and left to become a smuggler. In a famous bar scene Hans Solo fires on Greedo and kills him before Greedo can even get off a shot indicating that he's a "shoot first ask questions later" kinda guy. In the "remasters" bullshit version of Star Wars they actually clean up Hans Solo quite a bit. Included is adding in a new special effect to show that Greedo in fact shot Hans and Hans somehow magically dodged a beam that shoots at the speed of light.
The red beam fire is the make of the weapon and is supposed to indicate who are the bad guys and who are the good guys. This is similar to how all bad guys seem to have red light sabres and all good guys have green, blue, and purple light sabres.
Hans Solo's story is so great because he is an anti-hero and maybe one of the first ones. He is a guy who is looking out for himself and somehow saves the day every time.
One of my favorite parts of Knights of the Old Republic was how when you made dark side choices your flesh would deteriorate while if you are light side you have a radiant aura. Light side/dark side should have SOME effect on the game. If it is just a cosmetic choice that is more than fine by me.
If you watched Star Wars AND played the game...
You'd know that Han Solo, while being something of an anti-hero, would be a LS Smuggler in TOR. He's more than willing to scam a fellow scoundrel, but he wouldn't, say, steal medicine from innocent people for credits. The Smuggler class quests follow a similar moral view.
You are also wrong about the red beam fire. In the very beginning fight in ANH, both sides had red blaster fire. I guess the rebels were darkside, too? And the ships blasters were the other way around: Imps were green, rebels red.
I'm all for EFFECTS regarding LS/DS choices, but restrictions are pointless, particularly in this category. Even if the whole color code was actually, it's not like you wouldn't be able to USE a weapon. It's just silly.
Sorry but... this is Bioware-Bullshit.
Light and Dark side are properties of the Force, NOT moral coordinates. The Force has the effect to be influenced by emotions of the Force user. Hence if a Sith/Jedi or other Force user follows certain emotions the Force causes a feedback, strengthening him/her in a certain path. If one does an action out of anger or mercy, it gives a feedback echo on the user. For a Force insensivite or minor sensitve person like Han, Chewie, Boba Fett asf Light and Dark side are of zilch consequence. That is bullcrap Bioware made up and actually make no sense at all. It is illogical to think of light/dark as morality. Light/Dark is a purely technical thing. Certain emotions cause certain feedback results in the energynet of the Force. How you morally qualify them is a totally different matter. Thus the moral of a non-force users is no aligned to the light/dark side at all.
Nothing in canon(aka the movies) supports anything you just said. It is... to use your language... "Paperback Bullshit". While I, on the other hand, have the movies, where, clearly the jedi training is ALL ABOUT being calm... at peace, while the Sith are all about channeling hate to get power. You really can't miss it. Do you need quotes?
"I can feel the hatred swelling in you, now..."
a Jedi's strength flows from the Force. But beware of the dark side. Anger, fear, aggression; the dark side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will, as it did Obi-Wan's apprentice.
Yoda: No, no, no. Quicker, easier, more seductive.
Luke: But how am I to know the good side from the bad?
Yoda: You will know... when you are calm, at peace, passive. A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, NEVER for attack.
The restrictions are pointless because there is no logical reason why a Sith MUST use a red lightsaber or a Jedi no red lightsaber. They would be looked at with raised eyebrows maybe, but thats all, especially in this early SW period long before the "rule of two", where the line between Jedi and Sith was way thinner anyway.
If you actually watched Star Wars you would know Hans Solo was in fact a dark side kinda guy. Hans Solo served in the imperial military and left to become a smuggler. In a famous bar scene Hans Solo fires on Greedo and kills him before Greedo can even get off a shot indicating that he's a "shoot first ask questions later" kinda guy. In the "remasters" bullshit version of Star Wars they actually clean up Hans Solo quite a bit. Included is adding in a new special effect to show that Greedo in fact shot Hans and Hans somehow magically dodged a beam that shoots at the speed of light.
The red beam fire is the make of the weapon and is supposed to indicate who are the bad guys and who are the good guys. This is similar to how all bad guys seem to have red light sabres and all good guys have green, blue, and purple light sabres.
Hans Solo's story is so great because he is an anti-hero and maybe one of the first ones. He is a guy who is looking out for himself and somehow saves the day every time.
One of my favorite parts of Knights of the Old Republic was how when you made dark side choices your flesh would deteriorate while if you are light side you have a radiant aura. Light side/dark side should have SOME effect on the game. If it is just a cosmetic choice that is more than fine by me.
If you watched Star Wars AND played the game...
You'd know that Han Solo, while being something of an anti-hero, would be a LS Smuggler in TOR. He's more than willing to scam a fellow scoundrel, but he wouldn't, say, steal medicine from innocent people for credits. The Smuggler class quests follow a similar moral view.
You are also wrong about the red beam fire. In the very beginning fight in ANH, both sides had red blaster fire. I guess the rebels were darkside, too? And the ships blasters were the other way around: Imps were green, rebels red.
I'm all for EFFECTS regarding LS/DS choices, but restrictions are pointless, particularly in this category. Even if the whole color code was actually, it's not like you wouldn't be able to USE a weapon. It's just silly.
Sorry but... this is Bioware-Bullshit.
Light and Dark side are properties of the Force, NOT moral coordinates. The Force has the effect to be influenced by emotions of the Force user. Hence if a Sith/Jedi or other Force user follows certain emotions the Force causes a feedback, strengthening him/her in a certain path. If one does an action out of anger or mercy, it gives a feedback echo on the user. For a Force insensivite or minor sensitve person like Han, Chewie, Boba Fett asf Light and Dark side are of zilch consequence. That is bullcrap Bioware made up and actually make no sense at all. It is illogical to think of light/dark as morality. Light/Dark is a purely technical thing. Certain emotions cause certain feedback results in the energynet of the Force. How you morally qualify them is a totally different matter. Thus the moral of a non-force users is no aligned to the light/dark side at all.
Nothing in canon(aka the movies) supports anything you just said. It is... to use your language... "Paperback Bullshit". While I, on the other hand, have the movies, where, clearly the jedi training is ALL ABOUT being calm... at peace, while the Sith are all about channeling hate to get power. You really can't miss it. Do you need quotes?
"I can feel the hatred swelling in you, now..."
a Jedi's strength flows from the Force. But beware of the dark side. Anger, fear, aggression; the dark side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will, as it did Obi-Wan's apprentice.
Yoda: No, no, no. Quicker, easier, more seductive.
Luke: But how am I to know the good side from the bad?
Yoda: You will know... when you are calm, at peace, passive. A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, NEVER for attack.
The restrictions are pointless because there is no logical reason why a Sith MUST use a red lightsaber or a Jedi no red lightsaber. They would be looked at with raised eyebrows maybe, but thats all, especially in this early SW period long before the "rule of two", where the line between Jedi and Sith was way thinner anyway.
/agree
I find the narrowing down only to the movies as too restricted source. The Force, although a fictional thing, has a plausibility in the way of the EU in the books. In the KOTOR/SWTOR version it is just illogical.
Why should a Smuggler have a tainted dark side face, when he is force-neutral? It makes no sense.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
I find the narrowing down only to the movies as too restricted source. The Force, although a fictional thing, has a plausibility in the way of the EU in the books. In the KOTOR/SWTOR version it is just illogical.
Why should a Smuggler have a tainted dark side face, when he is force-neutral? It makes no sense.
You can think it's inadequate, but it's still the only canon source.
Either way, In all versions, it's illogical. For example, if the jedi code has nothing to do with morality, then the jedi should have served the Empire.
"If you're not with me, then you're against me!" -Anakin
"Only Sith deal in absolutes!" -Obi Wan
Interesting. Cuz Obi Wan's statement sounds like an absolute, to me.
Yoda: "...only used for knowledge and defense, never for attack."
There's another one.
You could not effectively defend a republic by strictly adhering to those ideals.
Edit: I agree regarding the Smuggler. But at least there, they chose in favor of INCLUSION and player CHOICE. Which is almost always the right decision.
Again, i'm not effected. You keep denying your everlasting butthurt of "I wont be special online". Just fess up.
Now this gets really interesting,so you feel somehow special when you buy those things and glad,theres nothing wrong with that either, bioware does a great job delivering peeps this feeling ,just click and you feel special and glad.
You realize, it's the same thing you're doing right? You're just clicking, but on a life-less scale. See the difference there?
and that is your answer,you have said this many times allready,and its cool.
but
when i want to have fun ,i want it to last loooong time and so does my partners.
but you just want to click and done.
thats what im wondering and yes i can see the difference.
Swtor is dying they make enormous error during the devellopment of the game,small planets,useless craft,only two factions,engine not optimised,tons of bugs,interactive dialog useless (space bar,space bar..).
Starwars game? No mos eisley? No wookie? Can't sit down in cantina? So many miss the list is so huge.....
Kindda jumping to conclusions, aren't ya?
First: Most of what you are saying is grounded in opinion or personal reflection. Some, such as myself, find the crafting interesting enough to continue doing. Same with Wookies and sitting down in a cantina: That only matters to those who care about such things and that number is small. Also, just because you dislike the dialog doesn't mean the rest of the gaming populace dislikes it. It is interesting to see how some of the choices you make shape your growth/companion's affection.
Engine not optimized? You do realize not everybody can afford this month's newest $5,000 POS-9001 Computer? Most MMO creators know this and keep the specks low in order for the rest of the world to play it on average boxes.
As for all the bugs: Again: You do realize this game has only been out ~2 months? WoW has been around for several years and it has some bugs. Not as many as it used to but still has a few lurking around... The point? It is too early for BW to fix all the bugs and is going to suffer quite a few growing pains and bugs so early. I myself have had a few bugs. Good example: A few SC missions have my ship glued to the bottom of the screen. I have to commit ship suicide in order to restart the level and after that it works fine. So, to expect the game to have no bugs and run flawlessly ~2 months in is unrealistic expectations.
Two Factions? You do realize this is Star Wars and that the movies, books, and other SW games has two factions?
No Mos Eisley? Again: You do realize the events of SWTOR/KOTOR occur thousands of years before the events of (shudders) Episode 1? Of course Mos Eisley doesn't exist yet.
As for the planets size: Has it occured to you that to have WoW level sized planets would be both cost and technology restrictive? If you hate how long you have to wait to load the worlds now, then you'd really rage if the planets were that big! (Hint: Most people would ragequit over it.)
The long story short: While there is some issues that need fixed, the game is hardly dying. It is still young and as time passes, things will improve.
I just wanted to jump on this thread and tip my hat to MikeB... The current blog notes confirm that vendors will be selling everything he claimed in his article, and then taken out in 1.2.
That's just stupid.
Every day, it seems, BioWare is making it more and more difficult for supporters like me to defend this game.
The removal of color limitations is a "no duh". Particularly since this limitation extended to blasters as well.
Seeing as how Han Solo's blaster shot red bolts, I guess that means he was a dark side kinda guy. How he made it through Endor without shooting a single Ewok remains a mystery.
It was a dumb thing that they actually put in late in beta due to pressure from the Canonites in the beta forums. Good riddance to total idiocy. As though this game needs more limitations on what your character can and can't use.
Far as "Blue Sith" go... you could always be sith with a blue saber, you just had to avoid dark side choices. And either way, if I were Sith, I would use a blue saber for the sole purpose of pissing off Jedi!
If you actually watched Star Wars you would know Hans Solo was in fact a dark side kinda guy. Hans Solo served in the imperial military and left to become a smuggler. In a famous bar scene Hans Solo fires on Greedo and kills him before Greedo can even get off a shot indicating that he's a "shoot first ask questions later" kinda guy. In the "remasters" bullshit version of Star Wars they actually clean up Hans Solo quite a bit. Included is adding in a new special effect to show that Greedo in fact shot Hans and Hans somehow magically dodged a beam that shoots at the speed of light.
The red beam fire is the make of the weapon and is supposed to indicate who are the bad guys and who are the good guys. This is similar to how all bad guys seem to have red light sabres and all good guys have green, blue, and purple light sabres.
Hans Solo's story is so great because he is an anti-hero and maybe one of the first ones. He is a guy who is looking out for himself and somehow saves the day every time.
One of my favorite parts of Knights of the Old Republic was how when you made dark side choices your flesh would deteriorate while if you are light side you have a radiant aura. Light side/dark side should have SOME effect on the game. If it is just a cosmetic choice that is more than fine by me.
How do you explain that the Empire ships fire green lasers and the Rebel ships fire red? Is it opposites day in space?
I imagine the influx of hipster Sith wielding blue lightsabers and Jedi wielding red lightsabers just to be ironic is going to annoy me a bit.
Wow... and I am sure it is the duty of the developers to do nothing that will irritate you, especially if it will make thousands of other players that want variety in thier saber colors happy...
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So clicking and spamming bosses for hours upon hours, every day a week, for several weeks is playing the game and me enjoying PVP, socializing, etc is not? Again you've made it clear from the beginning (and still ignore this topic) of how you're upset that people like you who spend weeks of their life in a dungeon click spamming a boss will no longer be "special" and won't only have the cool crystals.
Yeah.. sounds about right.
It's called every console game for the last 15 years.
I wish the PvP "skill" people would go back to their consoles, they would be happier and us PvE people will not get nerfed/watered down classes.
now that wasn´t so hard to say,wasnt it?you buy those things for socializing,nothing wrong with that.How do you use those crystals for socializing?ask from peeps "look what i got? those crystals looks creally cool when equipped?" or whats the catch?this is quite interesting.
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Again, i'm not effected. You keep denying your everlasting butthurt of "I wont be special online". Just fess up.
Now this gets really interesting,so you feel somehow special when you buy those things and glad,theres nothing wrong with that either, bioware does a great job delivering peeps this feeling ,just click and you feel special and glad.
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"As an aside, I’m also disappointed that the restrictions on color crystals for Light/Dark side users have been removed in 1.1.5. I realize this has always been a controversial issue, but I imagine the influx of hipster Sith wielding blue lightsabers and Jedi wielding red lightsabers just to be ironic is going to annoy me a bit."
@Mike: Why so serious? I mean, seriously. It's a GAME. I mean, I know I always had the endless debates in LOTRO with the Tolkien loremongers "THIS wasn't in LOTR!" But good riddance, its a GAME, it's not a "Star Wars reenacment museum"! And even then, by WHAT logic is purple limited to evil? That totally makes no sense, even for a loremonger. Purple was the colour of the Light Side Jedi Mace Windu. Given his Vapaad it would be grey maybe. And white and cyan were never connected to any side.
My Sith wears a blue LS, but I am not a hipster! I followed the light side as Sith Inq. because I deeply felt it was fitting to my role! It was no moody or random decision! I feel this entire sentence was a bit derogatory. I dont speculate what motivates OTHER LS Sith, if it is such a fleeting and mindless "hipster" thing for them. But I would never dare to assume to know. For me the blue LS and light side was a profound and important role decision. If I could I would have changed sides with a betrayal quest or joined a grey group of force wielders, but SWTOR doesn't have that.
More choice is always good, and sorry but... we are not a Star Wars museum. EVEN THOUGH the game often feels like that. But that's another topic for another day.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Starwars game? No mos eisley? No wookie? Can't sit down in cantina? So many miss the list is so huge.....
If you watched Star Wars AND played the game...
You'd know that Han Solo, while being something of an anti-hero, would be a LS Smuggler in TOR. He's more than willing to scam a fellow scoundrel, but he wouldn't, say, steal medicine from innocent people for credits. The Smuggler class quests follow a similar moral view.
You are also wrong about the red beam fire. In the very beginning fight in ANH, both sides had red blaster fire. I guess the rebels were darkside, too? And the ships blasters were the other way around: Imps were green, rebels red.
I'm all for EFFECTS regarding LS/DS choices, but restrictions are pointless, particularly in this category. Even if the whole color code was actually, it's not like you wouldn't be able to USE a weapon. It's just silly.
Sorry but... this is Bioware-Bullshit.
Light and Dark side are properties of the Force, NOT moral coordinates. The Force has the effect to be influenced by emotions of the Force user. Hence if a Sith/Jedi or other Force user follows certain emotions the Force causes a feedback, strengthening him/her in a certain path. If one does an action out of anger or mercy, it gives a feedback echo on the user. For a Force insensivite or minor sensitve person like Han, Chewie, Boba Fett asf Light and Dark side are of zilch consequence. That is bullcrap Bioware made up and actually make no sense at all. It is illogical to think of light/dark as morality. Light/Dark is a purely technical thing. Certain emotions cause certain feedback results in the energynet of the Force. How you morally qualify them is a totally different matter. Thus the moral of a non-force users is no aligned to the light/dark side at all.
The restrictions are pointless because there is no logical reason why a Sith MUST use a red lightsaber or a Jedi no red lightsaber. They would be looked at with raised eyebrows maybe, but thats all, especially in this early SW period long before the "rule of two", where the line between Jedi and Sith was way thinner anyway.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
You realize, it's the same thing you're doing right? You're just clicking, but on a life-less scale. See the difference there?
I find the narrowing down only to the movies as too restricted source. The Force, although a fictional thing, has a plausibility in the way of the EU in the books. In the KOTOR/SWTOR version it is just illogical.
Why should a Smuggler have a tainted dark side face, when he is force-neutral? It makes no sense.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
You can think it's inadequate, but it's still the only canon source.
Either way, In all versions, it's illogical. For example, if the jedi code has nothing to do with morality, then the jedi should have served the Empire.
"If you're not with me, then you're against me!" -Anakin
"Only Sith deal in absolutes!" -Obi Wan
Interesting. Cuz Obi Wan's statement sounds like an absolute, to me.
Yoda: "...only used for knowledge and defense, never for attack."
There's another one.
You could not effectively defend a republic by strictly adhering to those ideals.
Edit: I agree regarding the Smuggler. But at least there, they chose in favor of INCLUSION and player CHOICE. Which is almost always the right decision.
and that is your answer,you have said this many times allready,and its cool.
but
when i want to have fun ,i want it to last loooong time and so does my partners.
but you just want to click and done.
thats what im wondering and yes i can see the difference.
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Kindda jumping to conclusions, aren't ya?
First: Most of what you are saying is grounded in opinion or personal reflection. Some, such as myself, find the crafting interesting enough to continue doing. Same with Wookies and sitting down in a cantina: That only matters to those who care about such things and that number is small. Also, just because you dislike the dialog doesn't mean the rest of the gaming populace dislikes it. It is interesting to see how some of the choices you make shape your growth/companion's affection.
Engine not optimized? You do realize not everybody can afford this month's newest $5,000 POS-9001 Computer? Most MMO creators know this and keep the specks low in order for the rest of the world to play it on average boxes.
As for all the bugs: Again: You do realize this game has only been out ~2 months? WoW has been around for several years and it has some bugs. Not as many as it used to but still has a few lurking around... The point? It is too early for BW to fix all the bugs and is going to suffer quite a few growing pains and bugs so early. I myself have had a few bugs. Good example: A few SC missions have my ship glued to the bottom of the screen. I have to commit ship suicide in order to restart the level and after that it works fine. So, to expect the game to have no bugs and run flawlessly ~2 months in is unrealistic expectations.
Two Factions? You do realize this is Star Wars and that the movies, books, and other SW games has two factions?
No Mos Eisley? Again: You do realize the events of SWTOR/KOTOR occur thousands of years before the events of (shudders) Episode 1? Of course Mos Eisley doesn't exist yet.
As for the planets size: Has it occured to you that to have WoW level sized planets would be both cost and technology restrictive? If you hate how long you have to wait to load the worlds now, then you'd really rage if the planets were that big! (Hint: Most people would ragequit over it.)
The long story short: While there is some issues that need fixed, the game is hardly dying. It is still young and as time passes, things will improve.
Now theres something interesting..
An official post. +1 internetz for Zoeller using RP to describe some of the economy changes in 1.1.5.
That has me curious about the four pages thing.
If theyre similar, might be good stuff ahead.
I just wanted to jump on this thread and tip my hat to MikeB... The current blog notes confirm that vendors will be selling everything he claimed in his article, and then taken out in 1.2.
That's just stupid.
Every day, it seems, BioWare is making it more and more difficult for supporters like me to defend this game.
How do you explain that the Empire ships fire green lasers and the Rebel ships fire red? Is it opposites day in space?
I imagine the influx of hipster Sith wielding blue lightsabers and Jedi wielding red lightsabers just to be ironic is going to annoy me a bit.
Wow... and I am sure it is the duty of the developers to do nothing that will irritate you, especially if it will make thousands of other players that want variety in thier saber colors happy...