I am with you as well, did not buy or play ME3 and will not do it here, ANET has lost all credibility with me.
This is you.
OMG they added a cash shop with no game breaking items just like they said they would but I am going to be mad about it anyways because I have nothing better to do in my crappy little life.
I hope people like you stay out of the game anyways, I will just stop here since you and your kind are not worth getting banned over.
So typical of GW2 fans anymore like, they attack you for voicing YOUR concerns, good job supporting NCSoft
I have played the game several times and have zero reason not to support them. Not like you saying they have zero cred because they did what they said they would do.
Let me repeat myself I do not like the cash shop, and I am allowed to voice that opinion and not be flamed nor attacked by people like you for voicing an opinion that I have.
Its never going away so get over it.
As long as people let them get away with it you are right it will never go away.
OMG it was a design choice from day one, go troll some where else
@wall of quoted text talking about paying for betas... thats been out for a long while. I paid to get into WoW open beta.. as in VANILLA WoW. Same goes for Aion, Rift(in a way), Tera, AoC and many more. It is how things work now. There are early betas and betas that are bigger.. the bigger ones usually you get in if you prepay. Also lets not confuse big name games with F2P "beta" that is really as far as the game ever gets in the western market.
Humm I played WoW, is being VANILLA a way of trying to say I have been playing MMOs awhile because I beta tested EQ and never paid a dime, nor Vanguard, nor WoW, nor LOTRO need I go on but paying full price to get in all the betas is ok with you, man I just do not get you people, they are ripping you off!
you act like the only way to get into a beta is by paying.. of course that isnt true.. just like it isnt true for GW2. You can get lucky... or you can pay and get a guaranteed spot. Same as it has been since at least WoW.
You never ever had to pay full price to get a guaranteed spot in beta, pre order was all that was needed, what part of what he said do you not get?
@wall of quoted text talking about paying for betas... thats been out for a long while. I paid to get into WoW open beta.. as in VANILLA WoW. Same goes for Aion, Rift(in a way), Tera, AoC and many more. It is how things work now. There are early betas and betas that are bigger.. the bigger ones usually you get in if you prepay. Also lets not confuse big name games with F2P "beta" that is really as far as the game ever gets in the western market.
Humm I played WoW, is being VANILLA a way of trying to say I have been playing MMOs awhile because I beta tested EQ and never paid a dime, nor Vanguard, nor WoW, nor LOTRO need I go on but paying full price to get in all the betas is ok with you, man I just do not get you people, they are ripping you off!
you act like the only way to get into a beta is by paying.. of course that isnt true.. just like it isnt true for GW2. You can get lucky... or you can pay and get a guaranteed spot. Same as it has been since at least WoW.
You never ever had to pay full price to get a guaranteed spot in beta, pre order was all that was needed, what part of what he said do you not get?
many preorders you cannot take back.. so pay a little, pay a lot who cares.. some ppl ebay beta access for 250 bucks.. If you REALLY want a spot then you pay. AGAIN how it has been for so long. I want them to take my money.. I want to have beta access I dont have to babysit my email to see if I get. I also have done enough research to know I will at least like this game for it to be worth the investment.
Originally posted by HTdebuglach Originally posted by ariboersma
Originally posted by Dreadblade
Originally posted by ariboersma
@wall of quoted text talking about paying for betas... thats been out for a long while. I paid to get into WoW open beta.. as in VANILLA WoW. Same goes for Aion, Rift(in a way), Tera, AoC and many more. It is how things work now. There are early betas and betas that are bigger.. the bigger ones usually you get in if you prepay. Also lets not confuse big name games with F2P "beta" that is really as far as the game ever gets in the western market.
Humm I played WoW, is being VANILLA a way of trying to say I have been playing MMOs awhile because I beta tested EQ and never paid a dime, nor Vanguard, nor WoW, nor LOTRO need I go on but paying full price to get in all the betas is ok with you, man I just do not get you people, they are ripping you off! you act like the only way to get into a beta is by paying.. of course that isnt true.. just like it isnt true for GW2. You can get lucky... or you can pay and get a guaranteed spot. Same as it has been since at least WoW. You never ever had to pay full price to get a guaranteed spot in beta, pre order was all that was needed, what part of what he said do you not get?
@wall of quoted text talking about paying for betas... thats been out for a long while. I paid to get into WoW open beta.. as in VANILLA WoW. Same goes for Aion, Rift(in a way), Tera, AoC and many more. It is how things work now. There are early betas and betas that are bigger.. the bigger ones usually you get in if you prepay. Also lets not confuse big name games with F2P "beta" that is really as far as the game ever gets in the western market.
Humm I played WoW, is being VANILLA a way of trying to say I have been playing MMOs awhile because I beta tested EQ and never paid a dime, nor Vanguard, nor WoW, nor LOTRO need I go on but paying full price to get in all the betas is ok with you, man I just do not get you people, they are ripping you off!
you act like the only way to get into a beta is by paying.. of course that isnt true.. just like it isnt true for GW2. You can get lucky... or you can pay and get a guaranteed spot. Same as it has been since at least WoW.
When did I ever say that? You did and I will highlight that in yellow just so you can remember what you posted, no other game vever and I mean ever has charged full price for a guaranteed spot in beta, has never happened.
@wall of quoted text talking about paying for betas... thats been out for a long while. I paid to get into WoW open beta.. as in VANILLA WoW. Same goes for Aion, Rift(in a way), Tera, AoC and many more. It is how things work now. There are early betas and betas that are bigger.. the bigger ones usually you get in if you prepay. Also lets not confuse big name games with F2P "beta" that is really as far as the game ever gets in the western market.
Humm I played WoW, is being VANILLA a way of trying to say I have been playing MMOs awhile because I beta tested EQ and never paid a dime, nor Vanguard, nor WoW, nor LOTRO need I go on but paying full price to get in all the betas is ok with you, man I just do not get you people, they are ripping you off!
you act like the only way to get into a beta is by paying.. of course that isnt true.. just like it isnt true for GW2. You can get lucky... or you can pay and get a guaranteed spot. Same as it has been since at least WoW.
You never ever had to pay full price to get a guaranteed spot in beta, pre order was all that was needed, what part of what he said do you not get?
In his defense, he did acknowledge it was TL;DR
I did not say that. I just didnt quote it. My point is that you have had to pay something for guaranteed access to beta for a very long time why does it matter to you know. If you want to play the game so badly then why would the beta change your mind?
@wall of quoted text talking about paying for betas... thats been out for a long while. I paid to get into WoW open beta.. as in VANILLA WoW. Same goes for Aion, Rift(in a way), Tera, AoC and many more. It is how things work now. There are early betas and betas that are bigger.. the bigger ones usually you get in if you prepay. Also lets not confuse big name games with F2P "beta" that is really as far as the game ever gets in the western market.
Humm I played WoW, is being VANILLA a way of trying to say I have been playing MMOs awhile because I beta tested EQ and never paid a dime, nor Vanguard, nor WoW, nor LOTRO need I go on but paying full price to get in all the betas is ok with you, man I just do not get you people, they are ripping you off!
you act like the only way to get into a beta is by paying.. of course that isnt true.. just like it isnt true for GW2. You can get lucky... or you can pay and get a guaranteed spot. Same as it has been since at least WoW.
When did I ever say that? You did and I will highlight that in yellow just so you can remember what you posted, no other game vever and I mean ever has charged full price for a guaranteed spot in beta, has never happened.
you highlighted it and you still do not see. and I meant THIS beta not a beta in the red bit. I said that I DID pay.. and I will agree that my point isnt clear in that first post but since you keep quoting me I think you know my point by now. Paying is a way to get into a beta FOR SURE. No you do not HAVE to pay to get in, you can get lucky. But! As long as I have been playing MMO's from beta the only way to get guaranteed access is to pay, be it 5, 25, 60, 250.. w/e some money means you get in no matter what.
@wall of quoted text talking about paying for betas... thats been out for a long while. I paid to get into WoW open beta.. as in VANILLA WoW. Same goes for Aion, Rift(in a way), Tera, AoC and many more. It is how things work now. There are early betas and betas that are bigger.. the bigger ones usually you get in if you prepay. Also lets not confuse big name games with F2P "beta" that is really as far as the game ever gets in the western market.
Humm I played WoW, is being VANILLA a way of trying to say I have been playing MMOs awhile because I beta tested EQ and never paid a dime, nor Vanguard, nor WoW, nor LOTRO need I go on but paying full price to get in all the betas is ok with you, man I just do not get you people, they are ripping you off!
you act like the only way to get into a beta is by paying.. of course that isnt true.. just like it isnt true for GW2. You can get lucky... or you can pay and get a guaranteed spot. Same as it has been since at least WoW.
You never ever had to pay full price to get a guaranteed spot in beta, pre order was all that was needed, what part of what he said do you not get?
In his defense, he did acknowledge it was TL;DR
I did not say that. I just didnt quote it. My point is that you have had to pay something for guaranteed access to beta for a very long time why does it matter to you know. If you want to play the game so badly then why would the beta change your mind?
Changed my mind about SWTOR, so yes I am glad I did not have to pay full cost for a piece of rubbish like that.
@wall of quoted text talking about paying for betas... thats been out for a long while. I paid to get into WoW open beta.. as in VANILLA WoW. Same goes for Aion, Rift(in a way), Tera, AoC and many more. It is how things work now. There are early betas and betas that are bigger.. the bigger ones usually you get in if you prepay. Also lets not confuse big name games with F2P "beta" that is really as far as the game ever gets in the western market.
Humm I played WoW, is being VANILLA a way of trying to say I have been playing MMOs awhile because I beta tested EQ and never paid a dime, nor Vanguard, nor WoW, nor LOTRO need I go on but paying full price to get in all the betas is ok with you, man I just do not get you people, they are ripping you off!
you act like the only way to get into a beta is by paying.. of course that isnt true.. just like it isnt true for GW2. You can get lucky... or you can pay and get a guaranteed spot. Same as it has been since at least WoW.
You never ever had to pay full price to get a guaranteed spot in beta, pre order was all that was needed, what part of what he said do you not get?
In his defense, he did acknowledge it was TL;DR
I did not say that. I just didnt quote it. My point is that you have had to pay something for guaranteed access to beta for a very long time why does it matter to you know. If you want to play the game so badly then why would the beta change your mind?
oops, misunderstood....Sorry
But my initial point was that these are not true betas. They are more used as tools for marketing publicity and hype.
you highlighted it and you still do not see. and I meant THIS beta not a beta in the red bit. I said that I DID pay.. and I will agree that my point isnt clear in that first post but since you keep quoting me I think you know my point by now. Paying is a way to get into a beta FOR SURE. No you do not HAVE to pay to get in, you can get lucky. But! As long as I have been playing MMO's from beta the only way to get guaranteed access is to pay, be it 5, 25, 60, 250.. w/e some money means you get in no matter what.
My whole point here is no game has charged full price for a spot in beta and yes I do have an issue with that, and as long as we allow companys to get away with this then we are not doing our job as customers. If you think that it is ok for a company to charge full price to get into beta I honestly do not know what to say......................
@wall of quoted text talking about paying for betas... thats been out for a long while. I paid to get into WoW open beta.. as in VANILLA WoW. Same goes for Aion, Rift(in a way), Tera, AoC and many more. It is how things work now. There are early betas and betas that are bigger.. the bigger ones usually you get in if you prepay. Also lets not confuse big name games with F2P "beta" that is really as far as the game ever gets in the western market.
Humm I played WoW, is being VANILLA a way of trying to say I have been playing MMOs awhile because I beta tested EQ and never paid a dime, nor Vanguard, nor WoW, nor LOTRO need I go on but paying full price to get in all the betas is ok with you, man I just do not get you people, they are ripping you off!
you act like the only way to get into a beta is by paying.. of course that isnt true.. just like it isnt true for GW2. You can get lucky... or you can pay and get a guaranteed spot. Same as it has been since at least WoW.
You never ever had to pay full price to get a guaranteed spot in beta, pre order was all that was needed, what part of what he said do you not get?
In his defense, he did acknowledge it was TL;DR
I did not say that. I just didnt quote it. My point is that you have had to pay something for guaranteed access to beta for a very long time why does it matter to you know. If you want to play the game so badly then why would the beta change your mind?
Changed my mind about SWTOR, so yes I am glad I did not have to pay full cost for a piece of rubbish like that.
I dont know why you still wanted to play it after watching the videos online >.< but yes I see your point.. except that this game is out there too much for any semi intelligent person to not know whether they will enjoy it enough to buy. Remember its like buying another single player game.. you dont ever have to pay more so it isnt the same investment as a sub game.
Have you ever watched any youtube vids by Woodenpotatoes? It might help.. no game play footage but the guy is very well informed and is able to talk well and def isnt being payed for his opinion. Give it a shot.. then watch gameplay vids by EVERYONE even the baddies. Make up your mind that way if you are so worried about not getting into beta. Also when NDA is lifted again press will have even more vids and even some normal guys.
The fails and trolls will come up with anything. Its ok though guys cant stop a freight train that is GW2. 6 months from now what excuses will you be "making" up when GW2 easily becomes the 2nd highest populated in the world?
Playing: GW2 Waiting on: TESO Next Flop: Planetside 2 Best MMO of all time: Asheron's Call - The first company to recreate AC will be the next greatest MMO.
Originally posted by Dreadblade Originally posted by ariboersma
Originally posted by Dreadblade
Originally posted by ariboersma
Originally posted by Dreadblade
you highlighted it and you still do not see. and I meant THIS beta not a beta in the red bit. I said that I DID pay.. and I will agree that my point isnt clear in that first post but since you keep quoting me I think you know my point by now. Paying is a way to get into a beta FOR SURE. No you do not HAVE to pay to get in, you can get lucky. But! As long as I have been playing MMO's from beta the only way to get guaranteed access is to pay, be it 5, 25, 60, 250.. w/e some money means you get in no matter what. My whole point here is no game has charged full price for a spot in beta and yes I do have an issue with that, and as long as we allow companys to get away with this then we are not doing our job as customers. If you think that it is ok for a company to charge full price to get into beta I honestly do not know what to say......................
The overall issue is that we still allow them to call it a beta when it's really not. That task (the real beta) was already done. and mostly you get to preview the finished product.
@wall of quoted text talking about paying for betas... thats been out for a long while. I paid to get into WoW open beta.. as in VANILLA WoW. Same goes for Aion, Rift(in a way), Tera, AoC and many more. It is how things work now. There are early betas and betas that are bigger.. the bigger ones usually you get in if you prepay. Also lets not confuse big name games with F2P "beta" that is really as far as the game ever gets in the western market.
Humm I played WoW, is being VANILLA a way of trying to say I have been playing MMOs awhile because I beta tested EQ and never paid a dime, nor Vanguard, nor WoW, nor LOTRO need I go on but paying full price to get in all the betas is ok with you, man I just do not get you people, they are ripping you off!
you act like the only way to get into a beta is by paying.. of course that isnt true.. just like it isnt true for GW2. You can get lucky... or you can pay and get a guaranteed spot. Same as it has been since at least WoW.
You never ever had to pay full price to get a guaranteed spot in beta, pre order was all that was needed, what part of what he said do you not get?
In his defense, he did acknowledge it was TL;DR
I did not say that. I just didnt quote it. My point is that you have had to pay something for guaranteed access to beta for a very long time why does it matter to you know. If you want to play the game so badly then why would the beta change your mind?
oops, misunderstood....Sorry
But my initial point was that these are not true betas. They are more used as tools for marketing publicity and hype.
Exactly, which is why I believe whoever started this HT or whatever his name is had an issue with ANET charging full price to beta test what, the game is done for the most part and they are breaking what was an indusrty standard of little to no upfront cost to get into these. Since it is GW2 doing it I guess it is ok for them to charge full game cost to get into these
Originally posted by Zylaxx The fails and trolls will come up with anything. Its ok though guys cant stop a freight train that is GW2. 6 months from now what excuses will you be "making" up when GW2 easily becomes the 2nd highest populated in the world?
Simply wait 3 months for everyone to finish the content, say "That's it?" and then watch GW2 fizzle down into the little Niche game it really is.
you highlighted it and you still do not see. and I meant THIS beta not a beta in the red bit. I said that I DID pay.. and I will agree that my point isnt clear in that first post but since you keep quoting me I think you know my point by now. Paying is a way to get into a beta FOR SURE. No you do not HAVE to pay to get in, you can get lucky. But! As long as I have been playing MMO's from beta the only way to get guaranteed access is to pay, be it 5, 25, 60, 250.. w/e some money means you get in no matter what.
My whole point here is no game has charged full price for a spot in beta and yes I do have an issue with that, and as long as we allow companys to get away with this then we are not doing our job as customers. If you think that it is ok for a company to charge full price to get into beta I honestly do not know what to say......................
true but think of it another way. Since this game is B2P think of it like a single player game. What major game has ever had a demo which is sort of how you are putting it. That lasted 3 days, allowed you nearly open access to the game and once release promised you what GW2 is promising and in most points to date has delivered? I do not fault them.. but trust me I see why you guys are upset about it. I just beg of you to think of it another way and do not think of ANET as you would EA. One major difference... ANET had the ba**s to stand up for their game to their publisher and are doing things their way. Bioware.. which saddens me couldn't do this and it would have saved them a lot of heartache.
you highlighted it and you still do not see. and I meant THIS beta not a beta in the red bit. I said that I DID pay.. and I will agree that my point isnt clear in that first post but since you keep quoting me I think you know my point by now. Paying is a way to get into a beta FOR SURE. No you do not HAVE to pay to get in, you can get lucky. But! As long as I have been playing MMO's from beta the only way to get guaranteed access is to pay, be it 5, 25, 60, 250.. w/e some money means you get in no matter what.
My whole point here is no game has charged full price for a spot in beta and yes I do have an issue with that, and as long as we allow companys to get away with this then we are not doing our job as customers. If you think that it is ok for a company to charge full price to get into beta I honestly do not know what to say......................
The overall issue is that we still allow them to call it a beta when it's really not. That task (the real beta) was already done. and mostly you get to preview the finished product.
Well that is a whole other story, which again I agree with, and still not worth the full cost of a game to do it
Buying items in the cash shop is not Pay to Win, it is Pay to LOSE, lose real life money on a video game.
If with a cash shop 1 hour of real-life work, which is quite fun, nets the gold that would otherwise require 5 hours of boring grind then I know which option is Win and whiche is Lose.
Have fun wasting your money, whilst I'm playing the game.
If you rather grind for 5 hours, it's your choice ... I'd rather have fun playing and grinding is not fun. There's a difference between playing the game and grinding and you're not going to be able to buy cash-shop items with the loot-drops you get from normal non-grindy fun-playing.
you highlighted it and you still do not see. and I meant THIS beta not a beta in the red bit. I said that I DID pay.. and I will agree that my point isnt clear in that first post but since you keep quoting me I think you know my point by now. Paying is a way to get into a beta FOR SURE. No you do not HAVE to pay to get in, you can get lucky. But! As long as I have been playing MMO's from beta the only way to get guaranteed access is to pay, be it 5, 25, 60, 250.. w/e some money means you get in no matter what.
My whole point here is no game has charged full price for a spot in beta and yes I do have an issue with that, and as long as we allow companys to get away with this then we are not doing our job as customers. If you think that it is ok for a company to charge full price to get into beta I honestly do not know what to say......................
true but think of it another way. Since this game is B2P think of it like a single player game. What major game has ever had a demo which is sort of how you are putting it. That lasted 3 days, allowed you nearly open access to the game and once release promised you what GW2 is promising and in most points to date has delivered? I do not fault them.. but trust me I see why you guys are upset about it. I just beg of you to think of it another way and do not think of ANET as you would EA. One major difference... ANET had the ba**s to stand up for their game to their publisher and are doing things their way. Bioware.. which saddens me couldn't do this and it would have saved them a lot of heartache.
My trust left after SWTOR I never thought Bioware would do that but they did. So now when I see a publisher knowing that the market is not a bunch of happy campers with the current list of MMOs charges full price to get a guaranteed spot into their beta, yeah everyone of my red flags goes up, think we need to end this debate on this thread as we are sooo out whack with the OP lol
you highlighted it and you still do not see. and I meant THIS beta not a beta in the red bit. I said that I DID pay.. and I will agree that my point isnt clear in that first post but since you keep quoting me I think you know my point by now. Paying is a way to get into a beta FOR SURE. No you do not HAVE to pay to get in, you can get lucky. But! As long as I have been playing MMO's from beta the only way to get guaranteed access is to pay, be it 5, 25, 60, 250.. w/e some money means you get in no matter what.
My whole point here is no game has charged full price for a spot in beta and yes I do have an issue with that, and as long as we allow companys to get away with this then we are not doing our job as customers. If you think that it is ok for a company to charge full price to get into beta I honestly do not know what to say......................
true but think of it another way. Since this game is B2P think of it like a single player game. What major game has ever had a demo which is sort of how you are putting it. That lasted 3 days, allowed you nearly open access to the game and once release promised you what GW2 is promising and in most points to date has delivered? I do not fault them.. but trust me I see why you guys are upset about it. I just beg of you to think of it another way and do not think of ANET as you would EA. One major difference... ANET had the ba**s to stand up for their game to their publisher and are doing things their way. Bioware.. which saddens me couldn't do this and it would have saved them a lot of heartache.
My trust left after SWTOR I never thought Bioware would do that but they did. So now when I see a publisher knowing that the market is not a bunch of happy campers with the current list of MMOs charges full price to get a guaranteed spot into their beta, yeah everyone of my red flags goes up
understandable, but just because EA turned Bioware into moneygrubbing a holes doesn't mean ANET is. It could be as simple as there system not set up for preorders or they just didn't think about it. Basically just do your reseach on ANY game you want. MMO, RPG, CORPG, ect.. you cannot always play before you buy and since you cannot return games.. hell pretty soon you wont even be able to buy used console games! I don't think any person in this thread could not make an educated decision whether they like this game enough to buy from watching vids.
you highlighted it and you still do not see. and I meant THIS beta not a beta in the red bit. I said that I DID pay.. and I will agree that my point isnt clear in that first post but since you keep quoting me I think you know my point by now. Paying is a way to get into a beta FOR SURE. No you do not HAVE to pay to get in, you can get lucky. But! As long as I have been playing MMO's from beta the only way to get guaranteed access is to pay, be it 5, 25, 60, 250.. w/e some money means you get in no matter what.
My whole point here is no game has charged full price for a spot in beta and yes I do have an issue with that, and as long as we allow companys to get away with this then we are not doing our job as customers. If you think that it is ok for a company to charge full price to get into beta I honestly do not know what to say......................
true but think of it another way. Since this game is B2P think of it like a single player game. What major game has ever had a demo which is sort of how you are putting it. That lasted 3 days, allowed you nearly open access to the game and once release promised you what GW2 is promising and in most points to date has delivered? I do not fault them.. but trust me I see why you guys are upset about it. I just beg of you to think of it another way and do not think of ANET as you would EA. One major difference... ANET had the ba**s to stand up for their game to their publisher and are doing things their way. Bioware.. which saddens me couldn't do this and it would have saved them a lot of heartache.
My trust left after SWTOR I never thought Bioware would do that but they did. So now when I see a publisher knowing that the market is not a bunch of happy campers with the current list of MMOs charges full price to get a guaranteed spot into their beta, yeah everyone of my red flags goes up
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Like OMG what a bad design choice, like OMG
You never ever had to pay full price to get a guaranteed spot in beta, pre order was all that was needed, what part of what he said do you not get?
many preorders you cannot take back.. so pay a little, pay a lot who cares.. some ppl ebay beta access for 250 bucks.. If you REALLY want a spot then you pay. AGAIN how it has been for so long. I want them to take my money.. I want to have beta access I dont have to babysit my email to see if I get. I also have done enough research to know I will at least like this game for it to be worth the investment.
you act like the only way to get into a beta is by paying.. of course that isnt true.. just like it isnt true for GW2. You can get lucky... or you can pay and get a guaranteed spot. Same as it has been since at least WoW.
You never ever had to pay full price to get a guaranteed spot in beta, pre order was all that was needed, what part of what he said do you not get?
In his defense, he did acknowledge it was TL;DR
When did I ever say that? You did and I will highlight that in yellow just so you can remember what you posted, no other game vever and I mean ever has charged full price for a guaranteed spot in beta, has never happened.
I did not say that. I just didnt quote it. My point is that you have had to pay something for guaranteed access to beta for a very long time why does it matter to you know. If you want to play the game so badly then why would the beta change your mind?
you highlighted it and you still do not see. and I meant THIS beta not a beta in the red bit. I said that I DID pay.. and I will agree that my point isnt clear in that first post but since you keep quoting me I think you know my point by now. Paying is a way to get into a beta FOR SURE. No you do not HAVE to pay to get in, you can get lucky. But! As long as I have been playing MMO's from beta the only way to get guaranteed access is to pay, be it 5, 25, 60, 250.. w/e some money means you get in no matter what.
Changed my mind about SWTOR, so yes I am glad I did not have to pay full cost for a piece of rubbish like that.
oops, misunderstood....Sorry
But my initial point was that these are not true betas. They are more used as tools for marketing publicity and hype.
My whole point here is no game has charged full price for a spot in beta and yes I do have an issue with that, and as long as we allow companys to get away with this then we are not doing our job as customers. If you think that it is ok for a company to charge full price to get into beta I honestly do not know what to say......................
I dont know why you still wanted to play it after watching the videos online >.< but yes I see your point.. except that this game is out there too much for any semi intelligent person to not know whether they will enjoy it enough to buy. Remember its like buying another single player game.. you dont ever have to pay more so it isnt the same investment as a sub game.
Have you ever watched any youtube vids by Woodenpotatoes? It might help.. no game play footage but the guy is very well informed and is able to talk well and def isnt being payed for his opinion. Give it a shot.. then watch gameplay vids by EVERYONE even the baddies. Make up your mind that way if you are so worried about not getting into beta. Also when NDA is lifted again press will have even more vids and even some normal guys.
The fails and trolls will come up with anything. Its ok though guys cant stop a freight train that is GW2. 6 months from now what excuses will you be "making" up when GW2 easily becomes the 2nd highest populated in the world?
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you highlighted it and you still do not see. and I meant THIS beta not a beta in the red bit. I said that I DID pay.. and I will agree that my point isnt clear in that first post but since you keep quoting me I think you know my point by now. Paying is a way to get into a beta FOR SURE. No you do not HAVE to pay to get in, you can get lucky. But! As long as I have been playing MMO's from beta the only way to get guaranteed access is to pay, be it 5, 25, 60, 250.. w/e some money means you get in no matter what.
My whole point here is no game has charged full price for a spot in beta and yes I do have an issue with that, and as long as we allow companys to get away with this then we are not doing our job as customers. If you think that it is ok for a company to charge full price to get into beta I honestly do not know what to say......................
The overall issue is that we still allow them to call it a beta when it's really not. That task (the real beta) was already done. and mostly you get to preview the finished product.
Exactly, which is why I believe whoever started this HT or whatever his name is had an issue with ANET charging full price to beta test what, the game is done for the most part and they are breaking what was an indusrty standard of little to no upfront cost to get into these. Since it is GW2 doing it I guess it is ok for them to charge full game cost to get into these
Simply wait 3 months for everyone to finish the content, say "That's it?" and then watch GW2 fizzle down into the little Niche game it really is.
true but think of it another way. Since this game is B2P think of it like a single player game. What major game has ever had a demo which is sort of how you are putting it. That lasted 3 days, allowed you nearly open access to the game and once release promised you what GW2 is promising and in most points to date has delivered? I do not fault them.. but trust me I see why you guys are upset about it. I just beg of you to think of it another way and do not think of ANET as you would EA. One major difference... ANET had the ba**s to stand up for their game to their publisher and are doing things their way. Bioware.. which saddens me couldn't do this and it would have saved them a lot of heartache.
Well that is a whole other story, which again I agree with, and still not worth the full cost of a game to do it
If you rather grind for 5 hours, it's your choice ... I'd rather have fun playing and grinding is not fun. There's a difference between playing the game and grinding and you're not going to be able to buy cash-shop items with the loot-drops you get from normal non-grindy fun-playing.
My trust left after SWTOR I never thought Bioware would do that but they did. So now when I see a publisher knowing that the market is not a bunch of happy campers with the current list of MMOs charges full price to get a guaranteed spot into their beta, yeah everyone of my red flags goes up, think we need to end this debate on this thread as we are sooo out whack with the OP lol
understandable, but just because EA turned Bioware into moneygrubbing a holes doesn't mean ANET is. It could be as simple as there system not set up for preorders or they just didn't think about it. Basically just do your reseach on ANY game you want. MMO, RPG, CORPG, ect.. you cannot always play before you buy and since you cannot return games.. hell pretty soon you wont even be able to buy used console games! I don't think any person in this thread could not make an educated decision whether they like this game enough to buy from watching vids.
see my edit lol
agreed! all done
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I hope they use that hammer on gold sellers too. Oh nevermind, they are the gold sellers...I forgot.