Rift's endgame model is a near mirror image of WoW. ALmost EXACTLY identical. its gear crrency grind wth heavy emphasis on daily quests. Yes, there are a few more options. but the absolute focus in Rift is gear and currency/reputation for gear. And espeically focused on repitiion of dungeons ad infintum.
Entirely your opinion, 90% of my time is not spent grinding for gear, I prefer doing other things. And having racked up over 2000hrs it just shows there are other things to do... I could not do this in all the other games I have played.
In fact I'm not particulary interested in raiding, which is all you could do in most other games at endgame.
It shows you have very limited view on what RIFT has to offer, or are "trying to play it like exactly like WOW" as thats all you are used too. Dig deeper, you will find more.
Just because you like the endless repitition of things like IAs, invasions, world events and chronicles does not mean the endgame is indeed modeled after WoWs. You cant deny the focus is on the reputation and currency grinds. Sure, you may play it differently, but you can play any MMO's endgame differently, even WoWs.
The fact you have played 2000 hours in Rift says absolutely nothing about Rift itself, just that you love Rift. I would bit every penny I own there are more people that have spent 2000 hours in WoW since Mar 1, 2011 than in Rift.
The fact you have played 2000 hours in Rift says absolutely nothing about Rift itself, just that you love Rift. I would bit every penny I own there are more people that have spent 2000 hours in WoW since Mar 1, 2011 than in Rift.
DIfference between 2,000 hours in Rift and that much in WoW is I bet most of his was spent running around doing something. For some reason people consider AFK'n in a major city and trolling trade chat "community".
MY FAVORITE qq about Rift when it first launched was "zomg this does not have a community like WoW". You know that community that trolls the simplest question to death out of pure boredom as they get feed content once every 6 months.
I'll take content updates every 43 daysishhhhhh over any current mmo or mmo coming out.
Beacause no other mmorpg has a company as good as trion behind it, constant content updates every 1-2 months.constantly keeping the community updated,swift with patch fixes.It's just a good solid product nothing majorly new or innovative, its just a well put together game.
The fact you have played 2000 hours in Rift says absolutely nothing about Rift itself, just that you love Rift. I would bit every penny I own there are more people that have spent 2000 hours in WoW since Mar 1, 2011 than in Rift.
DIfference between 2,000 hours in Rift and that much in WoW is I bet most of his was spent running around doing something. For some reason people consider AFK'n in a major city and trolling trade chat "community".
MY FAVORITE qq about Rift when it first launched was "zomg this does not have a community like WoW". You know that community that trolls the simplest question to death out of pure boredom as they get feed content once every 6 months.
I'll take content updates every 43 daysishhhhhh over any current mmo or mmo coming out.
You do realize that the way to defend your game correctly is not by saying omg WoW sux? You seem so threatened by every other game. Maybe if you didnt post your hate threads on the WoW and SWTOR forums (and who knows other forums, Im betting gw2 and TERA as well) less people would come here and post negative thoughts about Rift?
Acting like your game is somehow superior and *insert game here* sucks is only going to make people want to point out where you are wrong.
You do realize that the way to defend your game correctly is not by saying omg WoW sux? You seem so threatened by every other game. Maybe if you didnt post your hate threads on the WoW and SWTOR forums (and who knows other forums, Im betting gw2 and TERA as well) less people would come here and post negative thoughts about Rift?
Acting like your game is somehow superior and *insert game here* sucks is only going to make people want to point out where you are wrong.
It is not some WoW is suxors statement. My point is I like Trions approach to MMO's. Some people like Biowares story emphasis or Blizzard casual style. Some like ArenaNET's pvp focus and sub model.
I like the concept that if I give Trion $15 I get content. It is what they do. The stuff they do surprises me because stuff like leader boards I never expected or looking for guild. I like the graphics choice. TOR/GW2/WoW all look cartoony to me and not realistic enough.
I love leveling up in this game. I just wish the end game was as entertaining. Nothing else to play, but my sub does expire next month. I doubt I continue after that.
The community is 100 times better than WoW, and I'm probably not being generous enough. I've never been bitched at for not having 3k dps. Not once, yet this was a daily occurence in WoW. People in Rift just seem to play to have fun, and understand life isn't defined by how much raid gear one has.
Its a good game, I just wish PuGers could get into raids. If they could I doubt I'd ever leave.
It's the most polished mmo out today. The bugs are fixed quick, the content can be pushed out faster than anybody can push out content right now. The rifts are exciting, especially when the rift events happen and the whole zone takes part in attempting to fend off the evil.
The complaints about rift have nothing to do with rift but the general generation of game that it came out in. After we sawthrough the storylines of SWTOR, we realized that Rift just had a better play experience.
I love leveling up in this game. I just wish the end game was as entertaining. Nothing else to play, but my sub does expire next month. I doubt I continue after that.
The community is 100 times better than WoW, and I'm probably not being generous enough. I've never been bitched at for not having 3k dps. Not once, yet this was a daily occurence in WoW. People in Rift just seem to play to have fun, and understand life isn't defined by how much raid gear one has.
Its a good game, I just wish PuGers could get into raids. If they could I doubt I'd ever leave.
Oddly, I had the opposite experience, Leveling was a chore, but endgame was the best part of Rift.
You can't approach Rift's endgame like current WoW. It's progression model appears to be more based on how WoW was in TBC. meaning there is more "progression" in your progression. Once WoW's LK hit, it felt like Raiding was little more than a 10 man heroic and everyone could do it' Rift is a bit different. You should spend some time running Experts before raiding.
during LK, WoW's progression painted itself into a corner. By the end of the expansion, you had 5 man heroics dropping better gear than some 25man heroic raids. That's bad. When LK hit, my hunter was still doing 2nd place in DPS still sporting Santo's rifle and Legacy.
Anyway, Rift's endgame progressions has a bit less of the short cuts later expansions in WoW provide. If you meet the focus/hit and DPS requirements, you will raid. I hit those requirements within a couple days after hitting 50. No, I wasn't a DPS monster, but I was able to raid. And Rift raids are a lot of fun. I just ran Experts like no one's business.
POINT 2 Rift's endgame model is a near mirror image of WoW. ALmost EXACTLY identical. its gear crrency grind wth heavy emphasis on daily quests. Yes, there are a few more options. but the absolute focus in Rift is gear and currency/reputation for gear. And espeically focused on repitiion of dungeons ad infintum.
Entirely your opinion, 90% of my time is not spent grinding for gear, I prefer doing other things. And having racked up over 2000hrs it just shows there are other things to do... I could not do this in all the other games I have played.
In fact I'm not particulary interested in raiding, which is all you could do in most other games at endgame.
It shows you have very limited view on what RIFT has to offer, or are "trying to play it like exactly like WOW" as thats all you are used too. Dig deeper, you will find more.
Just because you like the endless repitition of things like IAs, invasions, world events and chronicles does not mean the endgame is indeed modeled after WoWs. You cant deny the focus is on the reputation and currency grinds. Sure, you may play it differently, but you can play any MMO's endgame differently, even WoWs.
The fact you have played 2000 hours in Rift says absolutely nothing about Rift itself, just that you love Rift. I would bit every penny I own there are more people that have spent 2000 hours in WoW since Mar 1, 2011 than in Rift.
Take away raiding and endless progression for gear grinding, and ratio wise I doubt it...
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I love leveling up in this game. I just wish the end game was as entertaining. Nothing else to play, but my sub does expire next month. I doubt I continue after that.
The community is 100 times better than WoW, and I'm probably not being generous enough. I've never been bitched at for not having 3k dps. Not once, yet this was a daily occurence in WoW. People in Rift just seem to play to have fun, and understand life isn't defined by how much raid gear one has.
Its a good game, I just wish PuGers could get into raids. If they could I doubt I'd ever leave.
Byriel, Defiant side, we've been pugging RoSGSB for months and have started pugging HK in the last couple. Pug run in HK usually makes 4-5 bosses in a night. GSBROS are usually cleared in 1 night by pug. I've heard of other groups on other servers that will pug an instance and everyone bids for items, then the winner pays money to the raid and everyone splits it. Ours has always been Need if Need and don't be a douche. So...yeah, pug raiding does exist!
I did play it because it seemed comfy. The graphics and sounds are fine, it's mostly bug free and got updates at regular intervals.
I stopped playing it because the quests, combat and skills were all too generic, predictable and boring, and because there was no replayability or exploration of any kind.
This.
I stopped when i reached 50. The endgame is just exactly same as Wow. I could have just played Wow instead.
Exactly this. I quit Rift 1 week after I hit 50 because of this.
I disagree. But I also quit after first month, and came back. I dont raid nor do party dungeons at max level like in WoW. I play Warfronts, and world PvE.
problem is the World PvE stuff seem to be triggered by Population.
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Just because you like the endless repitition of things like IAs, invasions, world events and chronicles does not mean the endgame is indeed modeled after WoWs. You cant deny the focus is on the reputation and currency grinds. Sure, you may play it differently, but you can play any MMO's endgame differently, even WoWs.
The fact you have played 2000 hours in Rift says absolutely nothing about Rift itself, just that you love Rift. I would bit every penny I own there are more people that have spent 2000 hours in WoW since Mar 1, 2011 than in Rift.
Rift is in my rotation. I play Rift a month, then WoW, then Aion, then repeat (with some Star Trek thrown in every now and then).
It is a very good-looking game. Character movement/fighting is good for me. It's pretty solid.
DIfference between 2,000 hours in Rift and that much in WoW is I bet most of his was spent running around doing something. For some reason people consider AFK'n in a major city and trolling trade chat "community".
MY FAVORITE qq about Rift when it first launched was "zomg this does not have a community like WoW". You know that community that trolls the simplest question to death out of pure boredom as they get feed content once every 6 months.
I'll take content updates every 43 daysishhhhhh over any current mmo or mmo coming out.
Beacause no other mmorpg has a company as good as trion behind it, constant content updates every 1-2 months.constantly keeping the community updated,swift with patch fixes.It's just a good solid product nothing majorly new or innovative, its just a well put together game.
You do realize that the way to defend your game correctly is not by saying omg WoW sux? You seem so threatened by every other game. Maybe if you didnt post your hate threads on the WoW and SWTOR forums (and who knows other forums, Im betting gw2 and TERA as well) less people would come here and post negative thoughts about Rift?
Acting like your game is somehow superior and *insert game here* sucks is only going to make people want to point out where you are wrong.
For something to do.
It is not some WoW is suxors statement. My point is I like Trions approach to MMO's. Some people like Biowares story emphasis or Blizzard casual style. Some like ArenaNET's pvp focus and sub model.
I like the concept that if I give Trion $15 I get content. It is what they do. The stuff they do surprises me because stuff like leader boards I never expected or looking for guild. I like the graphics choice. TOR/GW2/WoW all look cartoony to me and not realistic enough.
I log in to talk to people over vent and jump around in circles in Meridian.
I love leveling up in this game. I just wish the end game was as entertaining. Nothing else to play, but my sub does expire next month. I doubt I continue after that.
The community is 100 times better than WoW, and I'm probably not being generous enough. I've never been bitched at for not having 3k dps. Not once, yet this was a daily occurence in WoW. People in Rift just seem to play to have fun, and understand life isn't defined by how much raid gear one has.
Its a good game, I just wish PuGers could get into raids. If they could I doubt I'd ever leave.
It's the most polished mmo out today. The bugs are fixed quick, the content can be pushed out faster than anybody can push out content right now. The rifts are exciting, especially when the rift events happen and the whole zone takes part in attempting to fend off the evil.
The complaints about rift have nothing to do with rift but the general generation of game that it came out in. After we sawthrough the storylines of SWTOR, we realized that Rift just had a better play experience.
Oddly, I had the opposite experience, Leveling was a chore, but endgame was the best part of Rift.
You can't approach Rift's endgame like current WoW. It's progression model appears to be more based on how WoW was in TBC. meaning there is more "progression" in your progression. Once WoW's LK hit, it felt like Raiding was little more than a 10 man heroic and everyone could do it' Rift is a bit different. You should spend some time running Experts before raiding.
during LK, WoW's progression painted itself into a corner. By the end of the expansion, you had 5 man heroics dropping better gear than some 25man heroic raids. That's bad. When LK hit, my hunter was still doing 2nd place in DPS still sporting Santo's rifle and Legacy.
Anyway, Rift's endgame progressions has a bit less of the short cuts later expansions in WoW provide. If you meet the focus/hit and DPS requirements, you will raid. I hit those requirements within a couple days after hitting 50. No, I wasn't a DPS monster, but I was able to raid. And Rift raids are a lot of fun. I just ran Experts like no one's business.
Entirely your opinion, 90% of my time is not spent grinding for gear, I prefer doing other things. And having racked up over 2000hrs it just shows there are other things to do... I could not do this in all the other games I have played.
In fact I'm not particulary interested in raiding, which is all you could do in most other games at endgame.
It shows you have very limited view on what RIFT has to offer, or are "trying to play it like exactly like WOW" as thats all you are used too. Dig deeper, you will find more.
Just because you like the endless repitition of things like IAs, invasions, world events and chronicles does not mean the endgame is indeed modeled after WoWs. You cant deny the focus is on the reputation and currency grinds. Sure, you may play it differently, but you can play any MMO's endgame differently, even WoWs.
The fact you have played 2000 hours in Rift says absolutely nothing about Rift itself, just that you love Rift. I would bit every penny I own there are more people that have spent 2000 hours in WoW since Mar 1, 2011 than in Rift.
Take away raiding and endless progression for gear grinding, and ratio wise I doubt it...Core i5 13600KF, BeQuiet Pure Loop FX 360, 32gb DDR5-6000 XPG, WD SN850 NVMe ,PNY 3090 XLR8, Asus Prime Z790-A, Lian-Li O11 PCMR case (limited ed 1045/2000), 32" LG Ultragear 4k Monitor, Logitech G560 LightSync Sound, Razer Deathadder V2 and Razer Blackwidow V3 Keyboard
Byriel, Defiant side, we've been pugging RoSGSB for months and have started pugging HK in the last couple. Pug run in HK usually makes 4-5 bosses in a night. GSBROS are usually cleared in 1 night by pug. I've heard of other groups on other servers that will pug an instance and everyone bids for items, then the winner pays money to the raid and everyone splits it. Ours has always been Need if Need and don't be a douche. So...yeah, pug raiding does exist!
I disagree. But I also quit after first month, and came back. I dont raid nor do party dungeons at max level like in WoW. I play Warfronts, and world PvE.
problem is the World PvE stuff seem to be triggered by Population.
Lower population == less events..
I would like to see more world raids promoted.
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