I'm currently deciding which game to get, EQ evolutions (all 5 expansion packs and the game for 30 bucks) or DAoC. Could anybody tell me which game to get?
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It depents on some things. If you are really into PvP or RvR you should choose DAoC. There are things like player housing and there will be coming a new expansion called Trails of Atlantis that looked fun to me too.
I dont know a lot about everquest but what i've heard is that its pretty hard for a newbie to roll into mainly because of al the expansions, but this Evolutions pack solves that problem then.
(But in the end you should just go play Anarchy Online: Shadowlands (if you are into science-fiction that is)
Well. I will give an opinion from the other side. Play EQ if and only if you have friends that would be willing to help you through the lower levels. Some of the newbie areas are desolate due to the high number of older players on the servers. I like the housing aspect of DaoC but have not played is so I cant give an opinion on that. As for expansions EQ doesnt play around there. They have been dumping new stuff all the time. I am not sure how DaoC is but if you prefer to be a solo player you may want to stay away from EQ as well. Some classes are ok but this game is becoming increasingly unfriendly to the soloist.
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Yeah i guess i should get DAoC but even that game is fairly old, but oh well, not as much as EQ. BTW i like good graphics,An interesting world, quests,pvp and socializing in the game. Is DAoC still the way to go?
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I agree with that. Even with my complaints its still fun after 4 years.
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I would only be playing it until a real game comes out like EQ2 or WoW. EQ seems like a hardcore game where you need to spend lots of months getting good, which one do you guys think takes less time to get good?
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[quote]I dont know a lot about everquest but what i've heard is that its pretty hard for a newbie to roll into mainly because of al the expansions, but this Evolutions pack solves that problem then. [/quote]
Buying a set of expansions is not going to help you get thru the lower lvls any faster,unless you have some friends willing to help you out.The hardest part in EQ is getting started.If your friends can spot you a bit of cahs to get some decient items then the lower lvls are not that bad,but wihtout help they can be frustrating.
EQ1 is not going to survive another year. Its life is almost up, eq2, WoW, Horizon, and other upcoming mmorgs are alot better. Daoc right now is a very good choice, they said every expansion that comes out they will upgrade the graphics and content. Theres Camelot, Celtic, Norse, and upcoming Atlantis settings plus great pvp. Daoc leveling is a snap now so its a good choice till newer mmorpgs come out.
If you are not familiar with mmorpgs, I'd suggest giving DAOC a shot. It's much "kinder and gentler" on the newbie.
From what I read about EQ2 when it was announced, it should be more like DAOC than it is like EQ.
Mythic tried to remove all the "hate factors" from EQ when creating DAOC. They managed to do an admirable job of it too. In DAOC you don't have to retrieve your corpse; you can travel safely and with moderate speed; you don't have to wait your turn for quest mobs (just group with everyone waiting); etc.
EQ2 seems to want to combine all the good factors from EQ and DAOC. Who knows where that will lead. I do intend to try EQ2 when it's released.
DAoC based solely on the fact that EQ is not for a beginner now.
Gameplay wise EQ is more intresting but considering to enjoy the game properly you have to be in a strong guild makes it currently the most annoying game for a new player.
You just need to look at the requirements of the high end guilds in EQ to know what i mean .
You stand a better chance been CEO of sony then joining some of those guilds and i kid you not when i say they actually have strenous interviews to get in and the requirements involve years of of playing to gain levels,AA and gear!!!
I was going to play EQ as my first MMOG back when the plains came out, man am I glad I did not, otherwise I would probably hate MMOGs.
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DAoC based solely on the fact that EQ is not for a beginner now.
Gameplay wise EQ is more intresting but considering to enjoy the game properly you have to be in a strong guild makes it currently the most annoying game for a new player.
You just need to look at the requirements of the high end guilds in EQ to know what i mean .
You stand a better chance been CEO of sony then joining some of those guilds and i kid you not when i say they actually have strenous interviews to get in and the requirements involve years of of playing to gain levels,AA and gear!!!
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It really sux when you can't pick up a video game and explore and enjoy it due to the fact that you're a "noob". That's why I hate to jump back into AC after being out for a year. I've heard that they've raised the Max lvl to 150 (used to be 126). So I know my lil' lvl 56 guy will just get lost in the mix and prolly even considered noob even though I played 2 1/2 years.
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"A good man knows his limits, a Great man knows he has none...."
I have to disagree with most of these posts about EQ being hard as a noobie now or that you have to be in a high end guild to have fun playing it. Having played for 4 years, I started over with a new character several times, and it has been a new adventure everytime. There are always many people leveling up new characters that you can group with, make friends, and have lots of fun.
There are a lot of great things about EQ. If your only interested in the highest level raiding, then yes it takes a fair bit of work to get your character to a point you would be accepted in the top tier guilds. I have been in one of the top guilds and while it was fun I personally enjoyed more of the group play then giant raids all the time.
With EQ its fun just learning about the world and whats out there and actually having adventures along the way. DAoC I found to be the opposite. Its mostly boring and pointless until you can get high enough level to rvr and then its fun for a while.
The sieges I saw while playing DAoC usually consisted of a huge mob of players all pressed up against the gate of a castle for a couple minutes till the gate would fall then they all rushed in (usually to an empty castle with no players defending it) and it was over like that. Not much in the way of strategy or time to enjoy it.
DAoC has moments of magic when you will really really enjoy it, but EQ is magic on a much broader level. I wouldnt choose which to play based on thinking either of them is easy or hard to get into but rather on what you enjoy and want out of the game. If its PvP (or rvr) your after then DAoC is what you will want for sure. If you would rather play in an interesting world full of things to do outside of pvp then EQ is so far beyond DAoC there is no comparison.
Though I dont really like all the changes they have made recently, such as all the port stones and such, EQ is actually probably more noobie friendly now then ever.
Take me ,I can't stand shadowbane but some people love it to bits.
I get sick physically from looking at UO graphics and can't imagine why anyone still plays the ancient game but many do and love it still.
I have met someone that plays runescape and not because he has a poor system(his is better then mine and mine handles SWG smoothly at primetime) or lacks funds to pay for one ,he just loves it.
Originally posted by ti4200 EQ1 is not going to survive another year. Its life is almost up, eq2, WoW, Horizon, and other upcoming mmorgs are alot better. Daoc right now is a very good choice, they said every expansion that comes out they will upgrade the graphics and content. Theres Camelot, Celtic, Norse, and upcoming Atlantis settings plus great pvp. Daoc leveling is a snap now so its a good choice till newer mmorpgs come out.
And what makes you so sure that DAoC will survive? I don't think an expansion can compete with a new generation of MMORPGs.
Heres my 2 cents. I played eq for 3.5 years and DAOC for 5 months. I think that the reason to join is just as important as the reason why you would quit. The reason I left DAOC is because it got boring, and I did not have the money to get good equipment, scing and all. On the other hand, I left eq because 1) to get anything good you need to join a 60+ guild and go on 60+ people raids. My computer cant handle those raids very well sicne im on dial up, and also I didnt want to spend 3 months of raiding with people and getting nothing out of it so that I could join a guild. I agree with Mistii on her post btw.. Anyway, just my POV
Sorry I forgot to say this on the other post, but rvr in DAOC is all what its hyped (if at all) up to be. RVR is long rang casters/stealthers...and ZERGS! Zergs are horrible, if you dont know what I mean, heres an example.
say you have a party of 8, and your doing good whakcing off stealthers here and there and a possibel group inbetween, but then all of the groups leave...and ya dont see em anymore..thats when the zerg comes. They bring like 6 groups (48 people) and wipe you out. Thats not rvr, its no contest. Thats why most people in DAOC, like myself, prefer the battlegrounds (BG1,2,3) to real RVR because there arent zergs in bg's
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IMO you should choose DAoC.
It depents on some things. If you are really into PvP or RvR you should choose DAoC. There are things like player housing and there will be coming a new expansion called Trails of Atlantis that looked fun to me too.
I dont know a lot about everquest but what i've heard is that its pretty hard for a newbie to roll into mainly because of al the expansions, but this Evolutions pack solves that problem then.
(But in the end you should just go play Anarchy Online: Shadowlands (if you are into science-fiction that is)
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Vic - "Androzzi here"
John - "Vic, your case just busted wide open."
Vic - "So close it for me!"
John - "Looks like your going to have to close it yourself, SHITTY!!!!"
Homer-"let the bears pay the bear tax, but i pay the Homer tax."
Lisa-"Dad, that's the homeOWNERS tax!"
Homer-"Whatever I'll be at Moes."
Homer-"let the bears pay the bear tax, but i pay the Homer tax."
Lisa-"Dad, that's the homeOWNERS tax!"
Homer-"Whatever I'll be at Moes."
OK one thing, do not, i repeat DO NOT get anarchy online..
i reccomend EQ, daoc is newbie friendly, but it is boring as hell!
eq has a lot of things to do, including lots of quests...
so theres my opinion
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Vic - "Androzzi here"
John - "Vic, your case just busted wide open."
Vic - "So close it for me!"
John - "Looks like your going to have to close it yourself, SHITTY!!!!"
Homer-"let the bears pay the bear tax, but i pay the Homer tax."
Lisa-"Dad, that's the homeOWNERS tax!"
Homer-"Whatever I'll be at Moes."
[quote]I dont know a lot about everquest but what i've heard is that its pretty hard for a newbie to roll into mainly because of al the expansions, but this Evolutions pack solves that problem then. [/quote]
Buying a set of expansions is not going to help you get thru the lower lvls any faster,unless you have some friends willing to help you out.The hardest part in EQ is getting started.If your friends can spot you a bit of cahs to get some decient items then the lower lvls are not that bad,but wihtout help they can be frustrating.
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EQ1 is not going to survive another year. Its life is almost up, eq2, WoW, Horizon, and other upcoming mmorgs are alot better. Daoc right now is a very good choice, they said every expansion that comes out they will upgrade the graphics and content. Theres Camelot, Celtic, Norse, and upcoming Atlantis settings plus great pvp. Daoc leveling is a snap now so its a good choice till newer mmorpgs come out.
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If you are not familiar with mmorpgs, I'd suggest giving DAOC a shot. It's much "kinder and gentler" on the newbie.
From what I read about EQ2 when it was announced, it should be more like DAOC than it is like EQ.
Mythic tried to remove all the "hate factors" from EQ when creating DAOC. They managed to do an admirable job of it too. In DAOC you don't have to retrieve your corpse; you can travel safely and with moderate speed; you don't have to wait your turn for quest mobs (just group with everyone waiting); etc.
EQ2 seems to want to combine all the good factors from EQ and DAOC. Who knows where that will lead. I do intend to try EQ2 when it's released.
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Homer-"let the bears pay the bear tax, but i pay the Homer tax."
Lisa-"Dad, that's the homeOWNERS tax!"
Homer-"Whatever I'll be at Moes."
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DAoC based solely on the fact that EQ is not for a beginner now.
Gameplay wise EQ is more intresting but considering to enjoy the game properly you have to be in a strong guild makes it currently the most annoying game for a new player.
You just need to look at the requirements of the high end guilds in EQ to know what i mean .
You stand a better chance been CEO of sony then joining some of those guilds and i kid you not when i say they actually have strenous interviews to get in and the requirements involve years of of playing to gain levels,AA and gear!!!
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Tech Support: "How hard can you throw your computer?"
"A good man knows his limits, a Great man knows he has none...."
"A good man knows his limits, a Great man knows he has none...."
I have to disagree with most of these posts about EQ being hard as a noobie now or that you have to be in a high end guild to have fun playing it. Having played for 4 years, I started over with a new character several times, and it has been a new adventure everytime. There are always many people leveling up new characters that you can group with, make friends, and have lots of fun.
There are a lot of great things about EQ. If your only interested in the highest level raiding, then yes it takes a fair bit of work to get your character to a point you would be accepted in the top tier guilds. I have been in one of the top guilds and while it was fun I personally enjoyed more of the group play then giant raids all the time.
With EQ its fun just learning about the world and whats out there and actually having adventures along the way. DAoC I found to be the opposite. Its mostly boring and pointless until you can get high enough level to rvr and then its fun for a while.
The sieges I saw while playing DAoC usually consisted of a huge mob of players all pressed up against the gate of a castle for a couple minutes till the gate would fall then they all rushed in (usually to an empty castle with no players defending it) and it was over like that. Not much in the way of strategy or time to enjoy it.
DAoC has moments of magic when you will really really enjoy it, but EQ is magic on a much broader level. I wouldnt choose which to play based on thinking either of them is easy or hard to get into but rather on what you enjoy and want out of the game. If its PvP (or rvr) your after then DAoC is what you will want for sure. If you would rather play in an interesting world full of things to do outside of pvp then EQ is so far beyond DAoC there is no comparison.
Though I dont really like all the changes they have made recently, such as all the port stones and such, EQ is actually probably more noobie friendly now then ever.
misti is right that the game can be a lot of fun away from looking for best gear.
But like any MMO you need like minds to make it work.Sadly most aspire for the gear/level/uberness status not the fun part.
Sad but thats how it plays out.
EQ2 hopefully will bring back the old magic .
Heheh IMO...
thats a lose - lose choice.
Depends what you mean lose-lose.
MMRPG are a matter of chioce.
Take me ,I can't stand shadowbane but some people love it to bits.
I get sick physically from looking at UO graphics and can't imagine why anyone still plays the ancient game but many do and love it still.
I have met someone that plays runescape and not because he has a poor system(his is better then mine and mine handles SWG smoothly at primetime) or lacks funds to pay for one ,he just loves it.
Same goes for EQ,DAoC,AO,SWG or any other game.
And what makes you so sure that DAoC will survive? I don't think an expansion can compete with a new generation of MMORPGs.
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Heres my 2 cents. I played eq for 3.5 years and DAOC for 5 months. I think that the reason to join is just as important as the reason why you would quit. The reason I left DAOC is because it got boring, and I did not have the money to get good equipment, scing and all. On the other hand, I left eq because 1) to get anything good you need to join a 60+ guild and go on 60+ people raids. My computer cant handle those raids very well sicne im on dial up, and also I didnt want to spend 3 months of raiding with people and getting nothing out of it so that I could join a guild. I agree with Mistii on her post btw.. Anyway, just my POV
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Sorry I forgot to say this on the other post, but rvr in DAOC is all what its hyped (if at all) up to be. RVR is long rang casters/stealthers...and ZERGS! Zergs are horrible, if you dont know what I mean, heres an example.
say you have a party of 8, and your doing good whakcing off stealthers here and there and a possibel group inbetween, but then all of the groups leave...and ya dont see em anymore..thats when the zerg comes. They bring like 6 groups (48 people) and wipe you out. Thats not rvr, its no contest. Thats why most people in DAOC, like myself, prefer the battlegrounds (BG1,2,3) to real RVR because there arent zergs in bg's
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