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madazzmadazz Member RarePosts: 2,115

Alot of people that I have played MMO's with have recently migrated over/back to Eve. Most recently some friends and I have quite SWG. I just wanted to know if with EVE's current way of gaining skills, is there anyway I can compete with veteran players? I have already played the Trial. The community was fantastic and helpful. The new tutorial has improved greatly since my previous trek into EVE.

But back to topic, can I compete at all? I understand that some people advise to stick to a current skill so you don't spread your weakness. Even so, will I actually be able to compete? Or will I be forced to group with large amounts of players to take on a vet. In most MMO's I do group, but not nearly as much as I solo. I kinda like the whole "lone man vs world" thing so thats why I do that. I also play MMO's for the option of grouping when I want, and the sheer randomization it offers, especially with PvP style games!.

Id appreciate any feedback.

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  • MrPopovMrPopov Member Posts: 217

    Nope, no way to compete. The devs and vets all laugh at all the n00bs because we pwn them all so easy.

    Joking aside, you are not your skill points. You are not your ship. You are not your billions spent of expensive modules. How you use your equipment that you have, and how the other pilot uses theirs (ok, yes it matters what loadout you and your adversary have) is what matters.


    This topic has been discussed countless times on this forum, eve-online.com's forum, and eve-i's forum. Try looking through those for excellent information regarding this topic.

  • Paul2724Paul2724 Member UncommonPosts: 4

    To a degree it depends what you mean by compete...

    If you think you should be able to jump into a battleship on day 2 and take on players who have been playing the game for 2 years then the answer is no.  If you mean, can you take part in the game and have an impact within the first few days then the answer is yes.

    As an example you can fly a decent sized cargo ship within 1-2 days of starting the game (actually on your first day if you pick the right character attributes).  This enables you to take part in interstellar trade (there are always corporatons / players looking for stuff to be hauled around, or there are NPC generated 'trade goods'), or if you join a corporation to take part in group mining activities hauling ore back to base (as a corp mine always splits the profits of such equally between participants, so we have had new players ending up up to 10million richer by the end of their first day in the corp).

    On the combat side of things newer players in small fast frigates (which again can be flown effectively in a very short amount of time) can take part in group activities scouting, or flying up to enemy ships and scrambling their propulsion systems so the big gun can come in for the kill (a process known as 'tackling').

    My main advice wuold be to pick a good player corp asap after joining the game - most good corps will provide ships and equipment (as well as advice) far beyond the means of a new player solo and greatly improve the experience.  Read the corporation recruitment forum on the official website - look for a corp that follows what you think your goals in the game will be and apply.

    And most of all - have fun !

  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077


    Originally posted by Paul2724
    To a degree it depends what you mean by compete...
    If you think you should be able to jump into a battleship on day 2 and take on players who have been playing the game for 2 years then the answer is no. If you mean, can you take part in the game and have an impact within the first few days then the answer is yes.
    As an example you can fly a decent sized cargo ship within 1-2 days of starting the game (actually on your first day if you pick the right character attributes). This enables you to take part in interstellar trade (there are always corporatons / players looking for stuff to be hauled around, or there are NPC generated 'trade goods'), or if you join a corporation to take part in group mining activities hauling ore back to base (as a corp mine always splits the profits of such equally between participants, so we have had new players ending up up to 10million richer by the end of their first day in the corp).
    On the combat side of things newer players in small fast frigates (which again can be flown effectively in a very short amount of time) can take part in group activities scouting, or flying up to enemy ships and scrambling their propulsion systems so the big gun can come in for the kill (a process known as 'tackling').
    My main advice wuold be to pick a good player corp asap after joining the game - most good corps will provide ships and equipment (as well as advice) far beyond the means of a new player solo and greatly improve the experience. Read the corporation recruitment forum on the official website - look for a corp that follows what you think your goals in the game will be and apply.
    And most of all - have fun !

    Any advice on good player corps? I just started playing EVE officially two days ago. I played in beta *hehe yah long ass time ago* and did 2 free trials over the past couple years. SWG finally t'd me off enough to make me leave so here I am and a good corp would definitely be nice to join.

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  • MrPopovMrPopov Member Posts: 217

    EVE University is a good starting corp. They will help you with all areas of gameplay, and ease the transition into a more focused corp, offering suggestions if you want PVP, manufacturing, RP, etc.

  • madazzmadazz Member RarePosts: 2,115

    Thanks for all the advice. It makes it seem like itll be awhile before I can compete with alot of the bigwigs up there, but thats ok. I will also take the advice of joining the University.

    See you guys in game. Im gonna re-open one of my trial accounts, already got my character developed a little bit!

  • Paul2724Paul2724 Member UncommonPosts: 4

    Aye you could do far worse than join one of the 'training corps' - they will be setup to help new players get a good start.

    In the long run its not so much 'the best corp' as 'the best corp for you'.  Large / small, Industrial / combat, 'safe' space / 0.0 space - these are all things which will depend on what you want from the game.

    Two things I would say:

    1. Make sure the corp has a good number of active players in your time zone - nothing worse than being the only one on.

    2. What characterises the 'best' corps in Eve is teamwork - be it PvP, mining, production, agent missions - the most successful corps are those that work together.

  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077

    Hmm one of my friends play and he and I were talking about my playstyle and he said I should work on mostly combat stuff with a slight touch of mining abilities and become a Merc? What's that all about. He tried to explain it but I was tired at the time so it all kind of blurred together.

    I'd forgotten how complex EVE can be :)

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  • scaramooshscaramoosh Member Posts: 3,424

    Try and get into rone if they still exist

     

    Otherwise you can join the corp im in, we're pretty good with healthy number of players that logon each night

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  • ElnatorElnator Member Posts: 6,077

    Fadeus got me into his corp for the time being... at least till I learn the ropes. Once I figure out what I want to do I'll probably wind up moving on since his corp is more mining oriented than combat.

    Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online.
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