It seems odd that EA is punishing the only playstyle that will give this game any legs at all. They've even encouraged people to roll alts and put in the legacy system to further push you toward making alts.
I understand why they did it, 50's are simply leaving the game when the hit level cap so 30 days free doesn't really cost EA anything since a lot of those people would have quit, but it is sort of demeaning to the people who played as they were told to play.
"As a thanks for being one of our most valued players, every active account with a Level 50... "
Just a bit of tweaking of this statement and they wouldn't have caused such a stir. Maybe substituting 'determined' for 'valued'.
Anyway, I get 7 free days! Woot.
I'm going to go roll a new toon on the FATMAN server.
The players who have a level 50 toon have been suffering from the lack of content.
The players who have 2 wives and 12 kids have not yet suffered from the lack of content.
This 30 day sub is a reward for being loyal and sticking to the game even though it CLEARLY lacked the content of being a worthy MMORPG. I haven't been pleased with BW on this game but this certainly was a good call. I'll have my cake and eat it aswell.
This, OP.
They built a pretty solid experience from 1-49, but 50 is a brick wall, and their data mining probably reflects that when they look at who is quitting, and who isn't.
So they're offering a big and expensive concession to the 50's that stuck around.
I feel for ya that you may have chosen to play in a way that left you without a level 50 character. But just keep in mind, rewarding some, and punishing others are two entirely different things.
While I can totally see where the OP is coming from I think that the biggest thing BioWare si trying to do here is open the door to the 50's that have already stopped playing, to say hey come check out 1.2 & see what we have done.
Wile the 50's still playing benefit & the players who don't have a 50 do not I think it was not intended as a reward so much as it was intended as a lure to those that have left.
If you left before reaching 50 then there's no reason to expect you want to see the addition level 50 content or legacy system, so that's why I think this was aimed at level 50's because them leaving, usually citing boredom & lack of content is the target audience of "people we have a chance of interesting with the content in 1.2"
If there was a future patch that addresses a lot of the concerns of the players that left pre-50, well then you might see an offer aimed at them.
My question is. Would you have tried to level a toon to level 50 if BW would have announced a month earlier that all accounts with at least one level 50 toon would get a free month? We could prob agree that it wouldn't have matter because you play several different games unlike many of us, play once every week, roleplay and take your time.
I agree you are no less of a valued costumer than me just because I stick to one game and level my toons to endgame. Almost all MMOs I have played reward their players in some way or another. I know for a fact you could level a toon to 50 in SWTOR in a week and he/she is not more of a valued costumer than I am who played since day 1. I guess it would of been more adecuate to choose words like "veteran" and give the veteran reward of a free month, but then some other guy would have posted something about it.
But back to my question. Would you have leveled your toon to 50 with prior notice?
My question is. Would you have tried to level a toon to level 50 if BW would have announced a month earlier that all accounts with at least one level 50 toon would get a free month? We could prob agree that it wouldn't have matter because you play several different games unlike many of us, play once every week, roleplay and take your time.
I agree you are no less of a valued costumer than me just because I stick to one game and level my toons to endgame. Almost all MMOs I have played reward their players in some way or another. I know for a fact you could level a toon to 50 in SWTOR in a week and he/she is not more of a valued costumer than I am who played since day 1. I guess it would of been more adecuate to choose words like "veteran" and give the veteran reward of a free month, but then some other guy would have posted something about it.
But back to my question. Would you have leveled your toon to 50 with prior notice?
Best regards.
Absolutely, I have a level 47 Commando which I left off of playing about 3 weeks ago to reroll another character (now level 20) on the Empire side.
Had I known about this I would have made sure to get my first character to 50, there just wasn't any huge hurry to do so because of the known end game flaws at 50.
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Regardless of whether it's fair or not, I've never heard of an MMO that gives away a free month to max level people / characters. Very odd descision. Is this so they can count them as subscribers whether they wanted to prolong their sub or not ?
Regardless of whether it's fair or not, I've never heard of an MMO that gives away a free month to max level people / characters. Very odd descision. Is this so they can count them as subscribers whether they wanted to prolong their sub or not ?
Ranked Warzones were retracted from the 1.2 lineup at the last minute.
This is EA making ammends.
It's definitely not out of the kindness of their own hearts.
My question is. Would you have tried to level a toon to level 50 if BW would have announced a month earlier that all accounts with at least one level 50 toon would get a free month? We could prob agree that it wouldn't have matter because you play several different games unlike many of us, play once every week, roleplay and take your time.
I agree you are no less of a valued costumer than me just because I stick to one game and level my toons to endgame. Almost all MMOs I have played reward their players in some way or another. I know for a fact you could level a toon to 50 in SWTOR in a week and he/she is not more of a valued costumer than I am who played since day 1. I guess it would of been more adecuate to choose words like "veteran" and give the veteran reward of a free month, but then some other guy would have posted something about it.
But back to my question. Would you have leveled your toon to 50 with prior notice?
Best regards.
The situation you describe actually gives me the choice to make and does not put that choice in Biowares hands. My issue is that Bioware made the choice for me and did not give it to me to make. I can not answer your question honestly since it did not happen. It could have made for some fun times with my group to hear about this and screw around for 30 days and have a competition to get to 50 but then again we could of all just said F-it. Either way the choice would have been ours to make.
I think we all agree this promotion was handled poorly by Bioware. If Bioware had said, "With the release of 1.2 we plan to reward all customers who have a level 50 toon at the end of May with 30 days of gametime." None of us would be here right now.
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Seems to me they have a problem with people getting to level 50 and then cancel their sub vs trying to stick it to people who don't have a 50.
Reminds me of all those posts about why should someone who raids the top tier content get better gear than those who don't raid, after all those who don't raid pay the same monthly sub.
Lets look at it this way....should someone who doesn't put in as much time get the same reward?
At the end of the day a monthly sub only allows you to log into the game each month.
You would think that BW would have looked at their user metrics before laaunching a promotion that spits in the face of such a large portion of their playerbase. They must be so desperate to stop max-level players from leaving that they are overlooking their satisfied customers; that is a deadly mistake for a service business.
I think they did look at their user metrics...
"The problem is with lvl 50 content, or at least that's what everyone says, right? So if we give the 50s a free month, they won't leave at least for a month and it's not like there's all that many of them anyways. This idea is PURE WIN and you know it!"
Just a guess on how the pitch for this promotion went in the board room.
My question is. Would you have tried to level a toon to level 50 if BW would have announced a month earlier that all accounts with at least one level 50 toon would get a free month? We could prob agree that it wouldn't have matter because you play several different games unlike many of us, play once every week, roleplay and take your time.
I agree you are no less of a valued costumer than me just because I stick to one game and level my toons to endgame. Almost all MMOs I have played reward their players in some way or another. I know for a fact you could level a toon to 50 in SWTOR in a week and he/she is not more of a valued costumer than I am who played since day 1. I guess it would of been more adecuate to choose words like "veteran" and give the veteran reward of a free month, but then some other guy would have posted something about it.
But back to my question. Would you have leveled your toon to 50 with prior notice?
Best regards.
Absolutely, I have a level 47 Commando which I left off of playing about 3 weeks ago to reroll another character (now level 20) on the Empire side.
Had I known about this I would have made sure to get my first character to 50, there just wasn't any huge hurry to do so because of the known end game flaws at 50.
Same here. The only reason I do not have a 50 yet is because I am alternating playing 3 main characters and another 3 alts. My Jedi Knight would have been 50 a month ago if I did not choose to play the Trooper and Smuggler.
If they really want to reward loyalty and dedication I should get a year worth of subscription for completing Taris four times
That said I try not to complain about not getting freebies because that makes me look like an entitled jerk. Bioware does not owe me any free game time so I should respect the fact that they can give stuff to people for any reason they can make up. I just wish they would not call it a 'loyalty reward'.
My question is. Would you have tried to level a toon to level 50 if BW would have announced a month earlier that all accounts with at least one level 50 toon would get a free month? We could prob agree that it wouldn't have matter because you play several different games unlike many of us, play once every week, roleplay and take your time.
I agree you are no less of a valued costumer than me just because I stick to one game and level my toons to endgame. Almost all MMOs I have played reward their players in some way or another. I know for a fact you could level a toon to 50 in SWTOR in a week and he/she is not more of a valued costumer than I am who played since day 1. I guess it would of been more adecuate to choose words like "veteran" and give the veteran reward of a free month, but then some other guy would have posted something about it.
But back to my question. Would you have leveled your toon to 50 with prior notice?
Best regards.
Absolutely, I have a level 47 Commando which I left off of playing about 3 weeks ago to reroll another character (now level 20) on the Empire side.
Had I known about this I would have made sure to get my first character to 50, there just wasn't any huge hurry to do so because of the known end game flaws at 50.
Same here. The only reason I do not have a 50 yet is because I am alternating playing 3 main characters and another 3 alts. My Jedi Knight would have been 50 a month ago if I did not choose to play the Trooper and Smuggler.
If they really want to reward loyalty and dedication I should get a year worth of subscription for completing Taris four times
That said I try not to complain about not getting freebies because that makes me look like an entitled jerk. Bioware does not owe me any free game time so I should respect the fact that they can give stuff to people for any reason they can make up.
I disagree with the entitiled part as I see no reason why one group of paying subscribers should be chosen over another.
What I don't understand is why they would think it was a good idea to drive a wedge of possible resentment between whats left of their loyal, or at least paying, fanbase.
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I disagree with the entitiled part as I see no reason why one group of paying subscribers should be chosen over another.
What I don't understand is why they would think it was a good idea to drive a wedge of possible resentment between whats left of their loyal, or at least paying, fanbase.
I Agree, one of many bad calls of late on the part of Bioware. At this point it's starting to look like sabotage. Most of these bad calls have no seeming alternate outcome.
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im an altcoholic but anyway..with swtor i said NO i wont rush to endgame this time.....i want to enjoy it...
rolled a sin , lvl 34 , rerrolled a merc......rerrolled a jugger.....why? STORY , wanted to see how the warrior story was...
so far the worst has been the inquisitor bleh .....the Merc is amazing , and the warrior is cool...my sniper was only lvl 20 when i quit the game but looked promising.
oh and tried the republic too....
anyway i have 2- 40+ , 3 - 30+ , 2 -20 + , and some 10+......
im not a good costumer i guess..
good thing my legacy level is 17.....
oh and there are ppl who "rerrolled" TWICE because DEAD SERVERS didnt make it to 50 before quiting ...but who can blame them?
While I can totally see where the OP is coming from I think that the biggest thing BioWare si trying to do here is open the door to the 50's that have already stopped playing, to say hey come check out 1.2 & see what we have done.
Wile the 50's still playing benefit & the players who don't have a 50 do not I think it was not intended as a reward so much as it was intended as a lure to those that have left.
If you left before reaching 50 then there's no reason to expect you want to see the addition level 50 content or legacy system, so that's why I think this was aimed at level 50's because them leaving, usually citing boredom & lack of content is the target audience of "people we have a chance of interesting with the content in 1.2"
If there was a future patch that addresses a lot of the concerns of the players that left pre-50, well then you might see an offer aimed at them.
Not really
This 30 days is only valid to active paying customers, so if people want to check out 1.2 they can under their active subscription - no need for the extra 30 days, which will probably go unused if they have stopped playing.
They were hoping all the people complaining had level 50's not expecting much backlash. This really is an !@#hole move...seriously this is worse than anything I've seen a company do.
Bioware is basically saying you were a better person for reaching level 50 right away, and people with alts and RPers with a slower playstyle are not as valuable to them.
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Bioware acts so wierd. I've never heard of something like this before.
Really? Winback promotions are as common as dirt. I have companies calling me every week. I wish they would stop. If they wanted me for a customer they wouldn't have treated me like shit to begin with. Not that Bioware has ever been unreasonable, cable/ sattelite companies sure are.
Of course winback promotions are common. Giving one portion a free month while the rest get nothing is not common. I have never seen it done in this way. And it was an awful way to handle things. If you have, can you please tell me about it?
my phone company recently offered 10 buck discounts to its blackberry customers. mind you, i had to switch a plan.
to be honest, it was well deserved. they already gouge us enough.
they didn't offer anyone else 10 bucks off.
i think their reasoning would have been "you don't have a blackberry." in the same reasoning ea would say "you don't have a level 50."
besides, given the reality of the game's tenuous position, a free month isn't exactly a gold nugget.
It's not the same if you are switching your plan and they are giving you $10 to do that. Not even close.
And really, we're talking about MMORPG players and Biowares ability to manage reputation. They have shown again and again how terrible they have been at it. I don't think of myself as a SWTOR hater or anything, but they just keep doing these really wierd things that could have been handled a lot better.
Removing Ilum (This was a huge promised feature that they were going to work on and then one day they jsut scrapped it)
Not adding Ranked PvP in 1.2 and then commenting how they are now hoping to get it in before 1.3
Giving only level 50s a free month (instead of basing it on actual commitment to the game)
I'm sure the peoeple that have been playing since release could list a few more, but they are not very good at managing expectations and they don't follow through with a lot of important things.
sigh.
you guys should put your brains together. you might actually manage to make one full-thinking mind.
the point is, ea/bw made an OFFER you can have a free month IF you stay. i got an extra 10 bucks IF i stayed. not much difference, pal.
if you can't see their problems with ilum etc are due to the mechanics of their engine and it's no doubt not as easy as you'd like it to be, then really...
giving the 50s a free month was giving a bunch of bored customers incentive to stay one more month so they'll see if 1.2 can keep them loyal. as i said, it's the 50s who were leaving in droves.
anyone playing since release should be 50. hell, i was close enough and i started ages after release. and i played it SLOW and logged in only once or twice a week and endured enough downtime to have made my own game.
i really think some of you poor lost lambs need to pull your heads out and if you love this game as much as you think you do, appreciate they're trying to fix it for you. i mean, show a little gratitude for that.
No they aren't. They are doing it to keep from losing their shirts. Please stop with the bombastic horse shit.
that's not quite an adequate usage of "bombastic" but still, it's nice to see someone trying to extend their vocabulary and i'm all for that.
of COURSE they're trying not to lose their shirts.
here's another word to look up while you're looking up "bombastic"; business.
I think it is you who does not understand the meaning of the word. By belittling the customers who are upset with a broken product, and then further upset by what seems to be an arbitrary and unfair recompense for said broken product, and trying to paint them as the villain of the piece for being a bunch of ungrateful spoiled serfs for not appreciating all the hard work this poor beleagueredcompany is doing for them, just out of the kindness of their heart, all while speaking down to them in the manner you would use to a trying child, is pure bombast.
nice work.
now climb back to the top of the thread and read from the top. when you find the bit where i'm belittling customers for a broken product, get back to me. be sure to read the bits about me calling swtor a game held together by gaffa tape. find also the bit where i call them a "beleaguered" company. mind you also read the bits in which i tell you what they're doing is called "business" (remember, that's the word i told you to look up along with bombastic?).
now, it's nice you managed to find a dictionary meaning for bombastic and work it into a sentence. but perhaps when you apply a new word, you take into consideration what came before, rather than try to mould the situation around a dictionary meaning.
when you manage to do this, i will stop talking down to you as a cute kid who's just found a thesaurus.
now, here. have a biscuit.
Again, by your own numerous and juvenile responses you show you really don't have a logical argument. Please stop wasting everyones time. And welcome to ignore.
i gave you many points on which you could have responded with something other than impressive words cut and pasted from your thesaurus. perhaps in future you should concentrate on reading a little more than writing.
Unfortunately speaking with your wallet is the only launguage EA/Bioware understands.
They really should have just given everyone who had a sub some free time. But level 50's are the ones who are leaving in droves because there isn't much to do once reaching there so they obviously want to keep them. What I found funny was the wording:
"As a thanks for being one of our most valued players, every active account with a Level 50 character as of April 12th, 2012 at 12:00PM CDT / 5:00PM GMT, will receive thirty (30) days of game time** in appreciation for your support and loyalty."
Sorry Talonsin. You are not one of their most valued players
Ignore the rest of this thread, this right here is the problem.
It's the phrases "most valued players" and "in appreciation for your support and loaylty" that has really infuriated the community. Clearly if you don't have a lvl 50 your a lower class of customer.
Oh and FYI not every 50 has recieved this reward, many have not.
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Bit late for that and it's actually quite insulting they think they can sweep this under the rug by rewarding another group of players and once again alienating a specific group of players for a second time.
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But hey - we got a free day out of it!
Doesn't matter to me.
I wouldn't play that horribly boring game if it were F2P.
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This, OP.
They built a pretty solid experience from 1-49, but 50 is a brick wall, and their data mining probably reflects that when they look at who is quitting, and who isn't.
So they're offering a big and expensive concession to the 50's that stuck around.
I feel for ya that you may have chosen to play in a way that left you without a level 50 character. But just keep in mind, rewarding some, and punishing others are two entirely different things.
While I can totally see where the OP is coming from I think that the biggest thing BioWare si trying to do here is open the door to the 50's that have already stopped playing, to say hey come check out 1.2 & see what we have done.
Wile the 50's still playing benefit & the players who don't have a 50 do not I think it was not intended as a reward so much as it was intended as a lure to those that have left.
If you left before reaching 50 then there's no reason to expect you want to see the addition level 50 content or legacy system, so that's why I think this was aimed at level 50's because them leaving, usually citing boredom & lack of content is the target audience of "people we have a chance of interesting with the content in 1.2"
If there was a future patch that addresses a lot of the concerns of the players that left pre-50, well then you might see an offer aimed at them.
My question is. Would you have tried to level a toon to level 50 if BW would have announced a month earlier that all accounts with at least one level 50 toon would get a free month? We could prob agree that it wouldn't have matter because you play several different games unlike many of us, play once every week, roleplay and take your time.
I agree you are no less of a valued costumer than me just because I stick to one game and level my toons to endgame. Almost all MMOs I have played reward their players in some way or another. I know for a fact you could level a toon to 50 in SWTOR in a week and he/she is not more of a valued costumer than I am who played since day 1. I guess it would of been more adecuate to choose words like "veteran" and give the veteran reward of a free month, but then some other guy would have posted something about it.
But back to my question. Would you have leveled your toon to 50 with prior notice?
Best regards.
Absolutely, I have a level 47 Commando which I left off of playing about 3 weeks ago to reroll another character (now level 20) on the Empire side.
Had I known about this I would have made sure to get my first character to 50, there just wasn't any huge hurry to do so because of the known end game flaws at 50.
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Regardless of whether it's fair or not, I've never heard of an MMO that gives away a free month to max level people / characters. Very odd descision. Is this so they can count them as subscribers whether they wanted to prolong their sub or not ?
Ranked Warzones were retracted from the 1.2 lineup at the last minute.
This is EA making ammends.
It's definitely not out of the kindness of their own hearts.
The situation you describe actually gives me the choice to make and does not put that choice in Biowares hands. My issue is that Bioware made the choice for me and did not give it to me to make. I can not answer your question honestly since it did not happen. It could have made for some fun times with my group to hear about this and screw around for 30 days and have a competition to get to 50 but then again we could of all just said F-it. Either way the choice would have been ours to make.
I think we all agree this promotion was handled poorly by Bioware. If Bioware had said, "With the release of 1.2 we plan to reward all customers who have a level 50 toon at the end of May with 30 days of gametime." None of us would be here right now.
Seems to me they have a problem with people getting to level 50 and then cancel their sub vs trying to stick it to people who don't have a 50.
Reminds me of all those posts about why should someone who raids the top tier content get better gear than those who don't raid, after all those who don't raid pay the same monthly sub.
Lets look at it this way....should someone who doesn't put in as much time get the same reward?
At the end of the day a monthly sub only allows you to log into the game each month.
I think they did look at their user metrics...
"The problem is with lvl 50 content, or at least that's what everyone says, right? So if we give the 50s a free month, they won't leave at least for a month and it's not like there's all that many of them anyways. This idea is PURE WIN and you know it!"
Just a guess on how the pitch for this promotion went in the board room.
Same here. The only reason I do not have a 50 yet is because I am alternating playing 3 main characters and another 3 alts. My Jedi Knight would have been 50 a month ago if I did not choose to play the Trooper and Smuggler.
If they really want to reward loyalty and dedication I should get a year worth of subscription for completing Taris four times
That said I try not to complain about not getting freebies because that makes me look like an entitled jerk. Bioware does not owe me any free game time so I should respect the fact that they can give stuff to people for any reason they can make up. I just wish they would not call it a 'loyalty reward'.
I disagree with the entitiled part as I see no reason why one group of paying subscribers should be chosen over another.
What I don't understand is why they would think it was a good idea to drive a wedge of possible resentment between whats left of their loyal, or at least paying, fanbase.
"Gypsies, tramps, and thieves, we were called by the Admin of the site . . . "
I Agree, one of many bad calls of late on the part of Bioware. At this point it's starting to look like sabotage. Most of these bad calls have no seeming alternate outcome.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
im an altcoholic
but anyway..with swtor i said NO i wont rush to endgame this time.....i want to enjoy it...
rolled a sin , lvl 34 , rerrolled a merc......rerrolled a jugger.....why? STORY , wanted to see how the warrior story was...
so far the worst has been the inquisitor bleh .....the Merc is amazing
, and the warrior is cool...my sniper was only lvl 20 when i quit the game but looked promising.
oh and tried the republic too....
anyway i have 2- 40+ , 3 - 30+ , 2 -20 + , and some 10+......
im not a good costumer i guess..
good thing my legacy level is 17.....
oh and there are ppl who "rerrolled" TWICE because DEAD SERVERS didnt make it to 50 before quiting ...but who can blame them?
is just no fair
Not really
This 30 days is only valid to active paying customers, so if people want to check out 1.2 they can under their active subscription - no need for the extra 30 days, which will probably go unused if they have stopped playing.
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They were hoping all the people complaining had level 50's not expecting much backlash. This really is an !@#hole move...seriously this is worse than anything I've seen a company do.
Bioware is basically saying you were a better person for reaching level 50 right away, and people with alts and RPers with a slower playstyle are not as valuable to them.
Are you on their marketing team or do you actually believe this has anything to do with loyalty?
Anyway, it's good to see they are expanding this to include more of their subscribers.
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He's just confusing "Hardcore" with "Faithful".
i gave you many points on which you could have responded with something other than impressive words cut and pasted from your thesaurus. perhaps in future you should concentrate on reading a little more than writing.
Ignore the rest of this thread, this right here is the problem.
It's the phrases "most valued players" and "in appreciation for your support and loaylty" that has really infuriated the community. Clearly if you don't have a lvl 50 your a lower class of customer.
Oh and FYI not every 50 has recieved this reward, many have not.
Expresso gave me a Hearthstone beta key.....I'm so happy
Bit late for that and it's actually quite insulting they think they can sweep this under the rug by rewarding another group of players and once again alienating a specific group of players for a second time.
Expresso gave me a Hearthstone beta key.....I'm so happy