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I don't fully agree with everything you've said, but the one thing I for sure do is that the game isn't dark enough. D1 and D2 actually had me frightened while playing and ever since I saw the first screenshots of D3 I've been saying it just doesn't seem to be quite dark enough. I've been hoping it would get changed, but it doesn't seem like it. Almost everyone I've talked to seems to agree with it not being dark enough and I'm a bit surprised Blizzard didn't feel the same way.
Gee... I thought it was a stress test, you know, like they said...
And for the last sentence...sigh... What about the people that are going to buy it because they enjoy it?
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I would agree with most people that it's just lackluster. It suffers a lot of the same problems Dungeon Siege 3 had. Looks like its time for everyone to go pick up Hellgate.
On a side note, to the people who think that the beta is not enough to really form an opinion ; I say WTF. Really?
The 10~ levels we played are EXACTLY like what the rest of the game will be like, just more of it. The skill system won't get better. The dry empty feeling wont be filled with more monsters.
Customization is a joke, at the very minimum give me face/hair/tattoo choices! But hey, at least its an improvement on the previous games; at least you can choose your sex lol. <--- that's meant to be sarcastic, it's not a condoning statement.
Without falling too much into rant mode, I feel really bad. My friend and I both downloaded the beta, but he didn't have a chance to play it. He went ahead and pre-ordered it anyway and now he's kicking himself - hard.
Is it just me, or are my expectations too high?
EDIT: Oh, and the graphics are not nearly as awesome as their system demands might have you believe.
After playing the beta today I came away not that impressed. The gameplay experience was fun enough in the Diablo/hack and slash theme but it just doesn't feel like a game I want to spend $60 on. It did bring back that Diablo feeling for me. One thing I wish they had not kept from the previous games is the point and click movement.
Because it's a review, not a wishlist?
Blizzard made their design choices, whether or not the fans wanted them. Now the game is about to launch, and they're allowing us to play it. Why is it no longer acceptable to review games nowadays? It's almost comical how many times I see arguments like 'wait until the full game to judge', which basically amounts to a mindset of 'buy the game first, then decide if it's good'. No wonder so many people complain about getting duped, or cheated with newer video games. Too many people give these games a free pass, especially if they have a well established IP.
Personally, I find his critique to be rather spot on. Plus the game is open to everyone atm. So it's not like you all can't just go see for yourself. But, I too was a huge diablo fan. I'm skipping this one; there's just too many other games that do it better.
Yea, some nostalgia is understandable in a sequel. However, the feeling I'm getting from many of the posts proclaiming their dislike of the game is that they just want D2 again. It's like seeing movie's sequel, and complaining that it's not exactly like the first. To a degree, it's not really supposed to be exactly like the first.
Starcraft 2.... well you got me there. However I think that has to do with how rigid RTS games are when it comes to development. You don't have much room to diverge.
Hah, if Blizzard had named it something else, folks would still complain. I daresay almost to the degree currently seen.
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Imo you are wearing some seriously rose tinted glasses amigo.
We get to play 1/3rd of act 1, on normal.
Of course it is easy.
I'm willing to bet D3 is gonna be superior to D2 in pretty much every way possible.
An interesting write-up, but I am going to still wait n see. I can cope with changes so it is good to know what has changed. However, I think people grumble just a bit too much about games anymore.
I am interested in how they changed skills/runes. I think there could be a lot to play with there as far as making builds (and to me, other than exploration of random dungeons that was the main enjoyment for D2). In my view, 10 levels won't be enough to grasp the system fully for how each class will work out. If Blizzard has done a good job of development, this should branch out as you level and then taper as you become more specialized. If it is as truly linear as you fear it might be, then yeah, there isn't going to be much longetivity to the game.
The not-dark-enough comment is interesting. I can agree with lack of darkness in a dungeon crawler being a problem. It is my main complaint about TL1, a game I love otherwise. Even though a lot of people got maphack that eliminated darkness completely in D2, I think it is a good thing to have.
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I wonder if this Open Beta will hurt Diablo 3 sales. I for one, had the highest of hopes for Diablo 3, yet after today... I'm not so sure.
I won't rehash all the spot-on things the OP said, but I will say "I expected... more." For such a large following for such a massive franchise, I think Blizzard did a great disservice. It makes me sad really. I get into the game, immediately turned off by the graphics. I don't necessarily mean the 'art-style', but the actual overall quality look of the game is not something I'd expect from a 2012 release on a massively high end system. (played all High @ 2560x1600 for reference.)
I guess I can say it ran well at least. But even the 'polish' Blizzard puts so much stock into really isn't there. The menus, the overall everything of the interface just looks dated.
The classes don't seem to 'fit' and lack a lot of imagination. The world seems to be schizophrenic as well. Going from oddly dark exteriors.. to neon lighted interiors?!?!
I knew there was trouble when I got kicked off the servers eairlier around lvl 6 on a Wizard and had very little desire to log back in and continue playing. (I did finally make it through to 'the end')
The only real saving grace the game has right now is no subscription and co-op play. I can see killing a little time here and there with a long distance friend in game, but I don't see much long term appeal. Especially with the massive lack of randomization in the maps.
This is all personal opinion by the way. This could be 'the second coming of video games' for some of you, and for that, I'm happy for you. But for me, I'm just an old gamer looking for something, and this isn't at all what I had hoped it would be.
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It's sad that PoE is coming out so close to D3...it's going to get stomped, and it's far superior to D3. FFX-style passive grid, and a FFVII materia system? So tasty. It's worth dropping $10 to get into the closed beta.
I just have to say: 'ITS FUCKING EASY'
At least on D2 i had to run a bit the first time against Andariel... but this skeleton king, doesn't hurt enough to make any1 run....
Just got through playing about an hour or so of the D3 beta and I have to say Blizzard has done all the Diablo fans a huge dis-service with the game.
As the OP has stated everything is dumbed down. Gone are the skill trees and pretty much any chance at advanced character customization via skills etc...
As a Diablo fan myself, playing the beta made me very sad.
Also the graphics are not the greatest either. They look like WoW or Dungeon Runners style, which to me just does not fit Diablo.
I have to say that comparing D3 to Path of Exile, Path of Exile is a far superior game and has better graphics, interesting skill mechanics, massive passive skill sphere grid ala FF10, and the customization options let you bend and stretch each class type to fill multiple roles if you choose to play that way. And PoE has gear modding in all forms to further the customization.
All that were hoping for a more Diablo experience than D3 can provide may want to check out Path of Exile. And later in the year Grim Dawn.
PoE, Grim Dawn, and Torchlight 2 are all better than D3 from what I can tell and from what I've played and this is kind of sad as Diablo is the grand-daddy of Lootfest Action RPG's.
D3 is good, but not nearly as good as it should be. I'll still be picking it up, but if Blizzard makes a D4 I will not be expecting much.
sad.........so sad.......
haha I hate her DoTs. I know is the first act and all that stuff but that dosen't change the fact it is easy. D2 act 1 was harder, at least I died a few times before andariel. I remember those elite skeleton archers were a pain on the as...
I just give them a 10+ for the rune system its amazing.
Totally agree. As I stated in my last post.
PoE is just so good and more Diablo than Diablo 3 is sadly. Well PoE is more like Diablo mashed up with Titan Quest with great graphics and a ton of freedom and character customization.
Glad there are others out there that can see the light!
The fact that you start with the bad points first and that you twist your good points into bad points says a lot.
@all the it's so ez mode crybabies, I can give you this only if you played after level 10 but you haven't. If you died during the first half or even the whole act 1 in Diablo 2 you must have been very incompetent.
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Claiming that Diablo 3 is easy based on a 30 minute beta in the easiest portion of the game, on the easiest difficulty is hardly fair. Not saying it will be incredibly hard, but I would not jump to conclusions. Anyways regardless this game will have record sales even though most of the people on these forums are anti-diablo 3 and pro-torchlight 2.
Good read. I agree with several of your statements, though i think giving it 5,2 out of 10 is a little to harsh. This is a good game, though it doesn't feel very Diablo'ish.
I kinda knew this before i got into the beta. We have to remember, that the ppl who made Diablo 1 + 2 aren't the ppl making the 3rd. It's a different team, so ofc the game won't have the same spirit as Diablo 1+2. Because of this, my expectations for the game wasn't very high.
I agree 100%, that the game is just way to easy.. I haven't used any pots at all. There haven't been one moment, were i was close to die. That's kinda sad tbh.
I don't understand how a game with such poor graphic can be released in 2012.. I really don't understand. Serious.. The graphics is worse than games released ages ago.
I think alot of the old "hardcore" Diablo fans, will get a little disappointed with this game. But again, how could you even think this was going to be like Diablo 1+2, when a complete new team is making the game? It would never happend!
I was pretty pissed off about Diablo 3 as well, but I realized something when I did some research into the diablo franchise a few weeks ago.
I understand why it isn't the same game anymore. The original people who worked on Diablo 1, and 2 are no longer working for blizzard anymore. The main guy who created diablo is long gone. Blizzard north no longer exsists. I think the only person that I can recall who is one of the only ones who had a part were Chris Metzen, but back when Diablo 2 was being developed he was just the head guy for the voice, and music in the game.
And yeah.... Diablo 3 sucks... it really sucks.. it sucks so bad I'de rather play pac man. The only people are going to enjoy this game are people who are ok with being handed something dubbed down and simplified. Kids who never played the old Diablo 1 and 2, WoW players who are used to playing simplified games because their game they have been playing for the last 8 years most of all the old vet wow players have left the game, hell even the developers arnt even working on it anymore
This new generation of games as a whole, most of them are crap
They are a waste of money and the developers are laughing at you all the way to the bank. Do I even need to mention the people here who actually went out and pre-ordered the SWTOR 150$ collectors edition and never even played it then found out it sucked and came here complaining how bad it is and they felt they were ripped off? Or do I even need to mention when Age of Conan was first released and people went out and pre-ordered that and got ripped off? Then found out later on the PR guy was lying about the dirext x 10 support.
Gamers are so nieve and gullable, it makes me embarrest to be a gamer. But on the other hand I'm retired from MMO's so at least I'm not wasting my money anymore on WoW clones or games that are made by a bunch of developers who cater to the kiddy crowd.
Me as an veteran Diablo player.....Terrible Terrible game!
Just cancelled my pre-order.....
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How can you slam sombody for judging a game from a Beta and then do the same yourself?
Having played both D3 and GW2 (and as a HUGE fan of the Diablo franchise and somebody who couldn't sit on GW1 for more than about 15 seconds without preferring to be punched in the crotch) I MUCH prefer GW2 - I know they are different styles of games but lets face it: They are in direct competition with eachother.
I will probably buy both of them - but as i said.. GW2 is the better quality game at this point.
I finished Diablo 1 two times, Diablo 2 - one time. Just played for a few hours Diablo 3 and I think it is the best Diablo game by far. Excellent all around quality, loved the graphics and lore fragments, combat is very impressive. Good job Blizzard.
Btw, Ive tried Path of Exile. Deleted it in 15 minutes. It cant hold a candle to D3
PS/ lol@ people who play the first Act on normal and complain about low difficulty