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Goldsellers and bots in beta

Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686

the game itselves prooves very much fun, espescially the combat...

 

But never before have i sees goldsellers active in beta. They where even offereing powerleveling to 60 for $650. And that on the only available roleplay server.

 

Next to that i saw an archer bot camping a boss spawnpoint.  (actually quite easy since the boss allways spawns on exactly the same spot, and the higher level archer was shooting her arrows (auto attack) straight through that spot, and auto looting.

 

 

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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,507

    If there's not going to be a wipe at the end of beta, then why wouldn't the gold farmers treat it like live?

  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686
    Originally posted by Quizzical

    If there's not going to be a wipe at the end of beta, then why wouldn't the gold farmers treat it like live?

     

    No there is not, people that pre ordered keep their characters

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  • Deron_BarakDeron_Barak Member Posts: 1,136
    Since I won't watch general chat until launch I don't know if there were adds but I am on the RP server. That said I would usual take someone's word for it and it's probably true since RMT companies have never missed and open beta to try and get their name out there.

    For you Bachas, someone who us translucent in their motives? Screenshots or it didn't happen AND YouTube or it didn't happen on the botting. You gotta work for it :)

    Just not worth my time anymore.

  • RaxeonRaxeon Member UncommonPosts: 2,288

    thats whats nice about being on a pvp server kill them XD havent seen any gold sellers on jagged coast

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,507

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    Originally posted by Quizzical

    If there's not going to be a wipe at the end of beta, then why wouldn't the gold farmers treat it like live?

     

    No there is not, people that pre ordered keep their characters

    I think you missed my point.  In most betas, gold sellers won't bother because there's a wipe at the end of beta.  Any gold they farm is gone at the end of beta.  Any gold they sell wil also be gone at the end of beta, so there isn't much of a market to buy it.

    But if people keep their stuff at the end of beta, then people inclined to buy gold in live might just as well do so in beta.  Furthermore, gold sellers keep the gold that they farm in beta, so why not start now?  The sensible time for gold farmers to start is immediately after the last wipe.

  • DkompozeDkompoze Member UncommonPosts: 245

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    Originally posted by Quizzical

    If there's not going to be a wipe at the end of beta, then why wouldn't the gold farmers treat it like live?

     

    No there is not, people that pre ordered keep their characters

    Looks like he was  waiting for a confontation and didnt take 2 seconds to read what was written

  • dragonordragonor Member Posts: 19

    some screenshots would be nice..

  • rexzshadowrexzshadow Member Posts: 1,428

    no bots on PvP server ftw coz you can just pk them lolololol =X Also lvl 1-60 take you like 2week to 1 month i lol at plvling price so overpriced its not even funny.

  • ZylaxxZylaxx Member Posts: 2,574

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    the game itselves prooves very much fun, espescially the combat...

     

    But never before have i sees goldsellers active in beta. They where even offereing powerleveling to 60 for $650. And that on the only available roleplay server.

     

    Next to that i saw an archer bot camping a boss spawnpoint.  (actually quite easy since the boss allways spawns on exactly the same spot, and the higher level archer was shooting her arrows (auto attack) straight through that spot, and auto looting.

     

     

    It wouldnt be a true Asian MMO with out botters and gold sellers.  Not suprised at all.

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  • rexzshadowrexzshadow Member Posts: 1,428

    Originally posted by Zylaxx

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    the game itselves prooves very much fun, espescially the combat...

     

    But never before have i sees goldsellers active in beta. They where even offereing powerleveling to 60 for $650. And that on the only available roleplay server.

     

    Next to that i saw an archer bot camping a boss spawnpoint.  (actually quite easy since the boss allways spawns on exactly the same spot, and the higher level archer was shooting her arrows (auto attack) straight through that spot, and auto looting.

     

     

    It wouldnt be a true Asian MMO with out botters and gold sellers.  Not suprised at all.

    Do that make WoW true asian mmo too?

  • BaniscoBanisco Member Posts: 240

    Originally posted by Zylaxx

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    the game itselves prooves very much fun, espescially the combat...

     

    But never before have i sees goldsellers active in beta. They where even offereing powerleveling to 60 for $650. And that on the only available roleplay server.

     

    Next to that i saw an archer bot camping a boss spawnpoint.  (actually quite easy since the boss allways spawns on exactly the same spot, and the higher level archer was shooting her arrows (auto attack) straight through that spot, and auto looting.

     

     

    It wouldnt be a true  MMO with out botters and gold sellers.  Not suprised at all.

    Fixed.

  • KehdarKehdar Member UncommonPosts: 441

    Originally posted by dragonor

    some screenshots would be nice..

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  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    the game itselves prooves very much fun, espescially the combat...

     

    But never before have i sees goldsellers active in beta. They where even offereing powerleveling to 60 for $650. And that on the only available roleplay server.

     

    Next to that i saw an archer bot camping a boss spawnpoint.  (actually quite easy since the boss allways spawns on exactly the same spot, and the higher level archer was shooting her arrows (auto attack) straight through that spot, and auto looting.

     

     

    I wish games would add anti-camping code to mess with these players.

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,952

    Originally posted by Kehdar

    Originally posted by dragonor

    some screenshots would be nice..

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    I hate to say it but I have to agree as wel. I have yet to see any advertisements in chat. I've blocked some "children" in chat but that's about it.

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  • ArkiniaArkinia Member Posts: 251

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by Kehdar


    Originally posted by dragonor

    some screenshots would be nice..

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    I hate to say it but I have to agree as wel. I have yet to see any advertisements in chat. I've blocked some "children" in chat but that's about it.

    the kiddies are in full force there.

  • KellerKeller Member UncommonPosts: 602

    Big deal. All games had goldsellers in general chat. I'm playing on a PvP-server, so bring those bots. What's the the point of this thread?

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by Kehdar


    Originally posted by dragonor

    some screenshots would be nice..

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    I hate to say it but I have to agree as wel. I have yet to see any advertisements in chat. I've blocked some "children" in chat but that's about it.

    Same here. Been playing the RP server and haven't seen this. General Chat, depending on the time of day can be good or bad (middle of day is politics, religion and "x sucks, y is cool"  --- night time is usually fun conversation -- 4 AM is hilarious :)  )

    If there's powerlevlling and gold spam, it must've been while I was in party chat.

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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    Originally posted by Keller

    Big deal. All games had goldsellers in general chat. I'm playing on a PvP-server, so bring those bots. What's the the point of this thread?

    It is still not a good sign, lets hope En masse fixes this soon or it will hurt the game.

    Personally it is the people who buy gold that annoys me, they are the ones encouraging bots and account hijackers and destroy the fun for everyone else.

  • AzmodaiAzmodai Member UncommonPosts: 154

    So far on Valley of the TItans (PVP server) I have not seen a SINGLE Gold seller/power leveling advertisements. NOT a single one, That problem might be for other servers but here its clean as fuck lol.

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  • BigbadwlfBigbadwlf Member UncommonPosts: 117

    Yeah just roll on a PvP server, that's where the party is at anyway.

    I don't remember if they took out pet venders in W-Tera, but in K-Tera there was a counter system to the AH where players can create their own shops and set the price of items that they want to buy/sell.  In case someone was messing with the AH causing inflation, you can still get the items you need at the price that you're willing to pay via the pet venders.

    Also the chrono-scrolls system is designed to undercut Gold seller's bottom line by giving players that do like to buy in-game stuff with RMT an in-game option.

    I don't know if any MMO can ever get rid of gold sellers, but at least En Masse has definitely aware of them and is has implemented safeguards to deal with them.

     

  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771

    Originally posted by Loke666

    Originally posted by Keller

    Big deal. All games had goldsellers in general chat. I'm playing on a PvP-server, so bring those bots. What's the the point of this thread?

    It is still not a good sign, lets hope En masse fixes this soon or it will hurt the game.

    Personally it is the people who buy gold that annoys me, they are the ones encouraging bots and account hijackers and destroy the fun for everyone else.

    Bots need beta testing as well.

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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,507

    Originally posted by Bigbadwlf

    I don't know if any MMO can ever get rid of gold sellers, but at least En Masse has definitely aware of them and is has implemented safeguards to deal with them.

     

    Let's see here.  A Tale in the Desert did.  Puzzle Pirates did.  Spiral Knights did.  Yeah, it's possible for MMORPGs to get rid of gold sellers.  It takes a lot of basic game design to design them out of the game, though, not just an aggressive banhammer.

    Guild Wars had gold sellers, too, but they never spammed public chats, so they didn't really hurt anything from a players' perspective.

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  • ArkiniaArkinia Member Posts: 251

    Originally posted by waynejr2

    Originally posted by Loke666


    Originally posted by Keller

    Big deal. All games had goldsellers in general chat. I'm playing on a PvP-server, so bring those bots. What's the the point of this thread?

    It is still not a good sign, lets hope En masse fixes this soon or it will hurt the game.

    Personally it is the people who buy gold that annoys me, they are the ones encouraging bots and account hijackers and destroy the fun for everyone else.

    Bots need beta testing as well.

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  • Games888Games888 Member Posts: 243

    really only game I didnt see gold seller was SWTOR b/c the game got nothing for ppl to buy lol.

     

     

  • synnsynn Member UncommonPosts: 563

    Originally posted by Zylaxx

    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    the game itselves prooves very much fun, espescially the combat...

     

    But never before have i sees goldsellers active in beta. They where even offereing powerleveling to 60 for $650. And that on the only available roleplay server.

     

    Next to that i saw an archer bot camping a boss spawnpoint.  (actually quite easy since the boss allways spawns on exactly the same spot, and the higher level archer was shooting her arrows (auto attack) straight through that spot, and auto looting.

     

     

    It wouldnt be a true Asian MMO with out botters and gold sellers.  Not suprised at all.

    lmao wasn't this one of the main selling points for an IP ban :p

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