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Diablo 3 is just what it says to be....
Lord.Bachus
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Diablo 3, is exactly the game they promise as it feels just like D1 and D2. No innovation gamewise, still fun to play for those that can stand the old fashioned gameplay.
To be honest, top-down or Ismetric view only makes sense for games where you have multiple units (RTS) to controll. And doesn't work for RPG's. (espescially not those where you controll a single character)
So if you're still have fond memmories of D1 and D2 as the best games you ever played, you still might love D3. But i guess for most people on this site MMO and RPG gaming has evolved intoo the 3D world.
Personally i think they should have taken the Diablo title and moved more in the direction of GW1 or DDO, with portal towns and instanced dungeons. It requires online access, so no use keeping it so old fashioned.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
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I disagree with isometric view, it can and probably will have it's place back into rpg in the future. The big advantage is the clear view you just can't get from perspective, this mean you can have a huge amount of mob on the screen and still have a perfectly clean view and you are free to place your character where you want, the same setting in a perspective view (usual 3d view) and you will prbably not see half the mobs, and have no clue where to put your character.
Now i won't comment on the game itself, it simply isn't worth it imo. I also disagree with "it is what is says to be". Diablo had a huge history of rogue game behind, even if it was a super simplistic version of them, ignoring this is just a bit ridiculous. If ou never played a rogue like game, don't knwo what it was about, feel free tho click this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roguelike
Once more making people think that those games were always as simplistic is kind of an insult to what they really were, but since it come from ignorance, i guess you can't really be upset about it.
i strongly disagree, diablo 3 is just what it should be.
there already is a diablo mmo out there, it'S called WoW ^^
we dont need another one of those... got enough already :P
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I enjoyed games like Baldur's Gate I and II, as well as the previous Diablo's so I'm looking forward to it. My main hope is that the game will maintain my interest over the long term and not vanish too fast.
Are you kidding ?
D1 and D2 are more complex and and advanced by miles from this ... i dont know even what to call it "preschool game"
I really agree 100%
Its sad when WoW is more complex, even worse when there both made by Blizzard.
When did Blizzard become games for gradeschool ? Oh how the mighty have fallen in the year 2012, Bioware went tits up and now Blizzard is showing there age (only they have regressed not aged). I swear if Bethesda starts screwing up i am gonna go back to playing tabletop games, BattleTech, Warhammer 40K, Warhammer Epic.
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Ya... honestly, it's not what it says to be. Diablo III is a pretty terrible game, tbh.
People are still going to play it because, lets face it, it's Blizzard and it's Diablo. They've already got the brand recognition and that's more than enough to make a profit on this game. Anyone who knows anything about game design, or what makes for a good game, is avoiding this one like the plague.
I know there's some people who still don't see why it's bad, and I'm not gunna try to convert them. However, I'd expect more from a game of this caliber than just a decent art style and candy colored blood & guts. There is really so much more they could've done w/ this game, and they barely meet base feature reqs.
Agreed. I am unsure why anyone would think that D1 and D2 players are the ones who will automatically like this game. For me it is the opposite. Perhaps people who have come late to the Diablo series and only tried it recently because D3 is coming out might say oh hey! But for me it is more then a little disappointing. Though I agree with Lord.Bachus that to take the Diablo title and move it into the GW1 or DDO model might have been a far wiser move then what they have come up with. No it wouldn't have been the Diablo everyone knew and loved, but nor quite frankly is what they came up with. At least not for me.
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I'd also agree with this.
All of the design decisions made on this game seem to be centered around streamlining the game to the point where all significant choices are gone. All the items are simplified into a rating (dps for weapons, armor for armor), and basically if you can do preschool math, you can guess which equipment you will be using at all times. Furthermore, the skills are simplified to such an extent, where I didn't in many cases feel much difference from class to class. It seemed to be mostly visual 'class A gets this type of AoE, and this type of heavy hitter, class B gets this type, class C gets this type' and they all essentially do the same thing, deal damage. Very, very bland.
This game really makes it apparent what a master piece the two previous diablo games were
Free camera movement and zooming out lets you create exactly that view in 3D games.
In an Isometric view, with no zooming, you cant even recognise the cloth and armor your character is wearing.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
Ps i'm obviously talking about the extreme scenes where the screen filled with mobs is common in iso view and produce no graphic lag, but is a real problem in perspective view games filled with mobs/players.
Agreed. A GW1 style Diablo would of been pretty fun. Its not that I dont hate top down view....ok I lied, I do hate it, it breaks immersion so much and limits your view to what is around you limiting your choice of action, I dunno why they never tried to make a Diablo as a 3rd person or at least have the option to go 3rd person.
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Nope, I never tried diablo 1 or 2. And I still think diablo 3 is too damn simple to be enjoyable.
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