-Multiple accounts are nearly mandatory. This has gotten a lot worse with the intro of PLEX and the Power of Two sales from CCP. Nearly everyone has an alt account. They use them to scout. They use them to haul stuff around. They use them to bait. They use them as buff bots. If you don't have multiple accounts then you're simply at a disadvantage to a surprising amount of the player base.
This is the biggest reason holding me back from getting into EVE. I hate multi-boxing, and the idea of paying for two accounts is ridiculous to me. I'm not sure why, I would have no problem owning two cars, or two houses if I could afford it, and I can more than afford two accounts, but just the idea of having to do it to be competitive goes against something in me.
I've toyed with the idea of just having one account and building that up until it can pay for itself with PLEX, and then starting another account. I have no idea if that would still be helpful or not, but it's the only way I could see myself doing it.
It's a shame really, I love the idea of the freedom that sandbox gameplay provides.
A second account is nice to have, but you can easily substitute having decent social skills. If you're prepared to work with others and put in some effort yourself, then a 2nd account is by no means mandatory.
A friend of mine started EVE around the same time as I did, and he's never had a second account; he was one of the team that won the last alliance tournament, a member of one of the top PvP alliances, and a really nice guy. It's perfectly possible to do what he did and engage in top level PvP with a single account. It's easier with a second account is all.
Except, you just can't point out which part you think doesn't make sense, and why
I can and it was done by other posters already.
I just do not feel like going through very same discussion about EVE misconceptions again and again...it gets tiring, therefore I can only encourage you try out the game for yourself...
Fly safe.
lol now you're trolling =P
When I was 15 years old, I use to post excuses like yours when I was left speechless, and cannot come up with anything.
Someone did post that success to them is having fun, and that's a good point of view. That was done after your response, and it does not invalidate my views. (I am having fun as well, or I wouldn't be playing the game)
Another person said having a lot of isk while flying fail fits, is still fail. And I agree with that, you do have to know what you're doing. I said those fail fits are probably RMT'ers, botters, or carebears who cannot afford to lose that ship. It also does not invalidate my views.
However, you still cannot come up with a reason or example of why my views are false, and make no sense. Because if you could, you would have done it already in your previous posts. Well, here's another chance:
I think the definition of elite or "godliness" in this game is: if you can afford to PvP in really expensive ships that other players cannot afford, such as Supers, without the use of RMT. You also have to know what you're doing, and be able to replace it when you lose it. At the same time, you don't need to grind for your isk, all you have to do is login for 15 - 30 minutes once every other day to make all that ISK.
Now I am betting you will respond and say something along the lines of "but I've already listed them, you just can't read or understand what I said, go play the game for yourself I don't have time to explain ". Without actually stating any reasons in your previous posts. Let's see if my bet is right
A second account is nice to have, but you can easily substitute having decent social skills. If you're prepared to work with others and put in some effort yourself, then a 2nd account is by no means mandatory.
A friend of mine started EVE around the same time as I did, and he's never had a second account; he was one of the team that won the last alliance tournament, a member of one of the top PvP alliances, and a really nice guy. It's perfectly possible to do what he did and engage in top level PvP with a single account. It's easier with a second account is all.
From what I've been told online (I take everything with a grain of salt of course, but when you hear the same thing over and over again it's hard not to assume it has more than a little truth) it can make all the difference. As for being social, EVE is a game that I could play maybe a couple nights a week for a few hours a piece. Not that I wouldn't play every day if I could, but job/gym/errands/etc tend to take up most of my time.
Is a few days a week for a few hours at a time enough to get in with a corp that would be willing to show me the ropes as a solo account?
Such reason is non-sense and I would say it is very bad excuse.
You can enjoy the game with single account just fine...multiply accounts are convenience only.
You're opinions on my "excuse" notwithstanding, it is something that is, for whatever reason, a big deal to me. Even though I can afford it, the idea of having to pay for two accounts to be competitive just, I don't know the proper word, bothers me I guess. And that's the whole thing, I know that as a new player in EVE I'll be the very bottom of the barrel, but I'm worried starting as a single account will actually increase the learning curve.
I consider myself an EVE veteran. I've been playing, off and on, since August 2006. My main only has 65 million skill points. My subscription is currently in-active as of two days ago. I've had two accounts twice. Both via Power of Two promotion. My main never met, was never in the same system, never had anything to do with - my second account. It was trained up and sold via the character bazaar. I've never felt that I needed two accounts to play this game. So, if you feel that you need to pay CCP for two accounts then that's your business. Just saying that it isn't necessary.
Originally posted by I.Gunslinger I know that as a new player in EVE I'll be the very bottom of the barrel, but I'm worried starting as a single account will actually increase the learning curve.
If you want to believe that "as a new player in EVE I'll be the very bottom of the barrel", you will be.
This is a true problem of yours - false assumptions and negative thinking.
If you want to spend time thinking why you can't do it instead of how to do it, EVE might not be a game for you.
I know that as a new player in EVE I'll be the very bottom of the barrel, but I'm worried starting as a single account will actually increase the learning curve.
If you want to believe that "as a new player in EVE I'll be the very bottom of the barrel", you will be.
This is a true problem of yours - false assumptions and negative thinking.
If you want to spend time thinking why you can't do it instead of how to do it, EVE might not be a game for you.
Absolutely, I'll start a brand new character in a very complex( compartively) game I've never played and I won't be at the bottom of the food chain. That makes perfect sense.
There is a difference between negative thinking and practical thinking. Looking at the situation in a practical manner, I'll be entering a very dangerous world in which I don't know the politics, don't have a powerful ship, don't know the economy well enough to support losing a valuable ship, or have friends to back me up. Are those problems insurmountable? No, of course not. I can join a corp, learn the politics, learn the market, and buy/scam my way into a powerful ship.
And maybe I am assuming some of these things, because I don't know for sure. But then again, that's why I'm here.
Originally posted by I.Gunslinger Absolutely, I'll start a brand new character in a very complex( compartively) game I've never played and I won't be at the bottom of the food chain. That makes perfect sense.
However odd it may sound but yes, it does make perfect sense.
The reason is complex mechanics and non-linearity, bigger and expensive ships aren't necessarily better and older characters not having absurd advantage.
Even as a new player, there is a large array of tools at your disposal and if you make a bit of research and take it easy, there is no need to be worried about "being at the bottom of the food chain".
Ive been playin eve for my 3rd year now and i agree that if you dont have anyone to help you at start, you will probably quit. Game will become boring and you wont be able to do anything.
My suggestion to any new player out there is to join RvB. They accept everyone. Its a good place to get into the game. They will lead you. Also you will experience lots of PVP there, even if you are 14 days old character. A great place to learn.
Another thing that i would suggest for new players is to choose what you want to do in game as soon as possible and specialize in that. It can be hard but the sooner you can say: I want to be a trader, or i want to PVP, the better. This way you will be spending minimal amount of skill points on stuff you dont really need for what you want to do in game. If you want to catch up with better players in something you need to specialize. I for instance specialized mostly on Frigates(smallest ships in game) and am only now after 2 years transitioning into cruisers. You can transition way earlier but this is how i like to do stuff. The good thing about eve is that ALL the ships in game are useful. There is NO best ship in game. Fly what you enjoy flying.
For those who dont know what RvB is...
These are two hi-sec alliances Red Federation and Blue Republic. They are constantly at war with each other and are perfect place for new players to learn the tactics etc.
My suggestion to any new player out there is to join RvB. They accept everyone. Its a good place to get into the game. They will lead you. Also you will experience lots of PVP there, even if you are 14 days old character. A great place to learn.
That is a good idea only if you want to learn how to pvp and if you already have a source of income. RvB can be very ISK consuming, and it can be hard for a new player that can't earn enough money.
"EVE is likely the best MMORPG that you've never really understood or played" - Kyleran
A new player doesnt need that much money at start tbh. If you run a few missions you can afford a few t1 frigs to pvp with as far as i remember.
Occasionally I use a Rifter as a fast tackle in fleets.
It's fun, and it feels good when you get on a battleship / battlecruiser / command ship kill mail. I think it feels better than getting on the kill mail as an interceptor or assault frigate, because you're being isk efficient
To me, EVE is that good because of the overlooming drama/story in nullsec. Wars etc - Killing fleets putting a dent in the pockets of your enemies. It's a lot of fun when you get drawn into the storyline that is almost entirely player-made.
I've been playing eve for about a year ALONE, I have never quit, I've just gradually built myself up to the stage where I am happy to say that I can pay for my subscription entirely from ISK earnt from Planetary Interaction, Mining, Manufacturing,and Capital Investments.
I can honestly say that I enjoy the High-learning curve of EVE because its like real life, If you aren't willing to put time and effort into something you aren't going to get a satisfactory return on the investment. I started off by picking a high-profit avenue of Mining and I have stuck to it since and it helped me learn how the mechanics of EVE work together to form this highly competitive, player-driven, complex game. Things are slow in EVE, learning new skills could take days, week and even months! This is what I love about EVE.
From the get-go, this game shoves you straight into a game where Time is the most valuable commodity and how you use this commodity depends on how far you go in this game.
Just my two cents, This game can be played alone, it is dificult but not impossible.
And a lot of the problems people have with Eve are due to it being a sandbox. There is no path laid out and no natural progression path as there are in a theme park game. This doesn't mean it is better but just different. If it is not your thing then fair enough.
If you have not tried a Sandbox game then perhaps you can give it a try and see. If so, the first thing you need to do is to decide/figure out what you would like to do in the game, of course you can try different things later. Once you know what you want to do then you have to find out how to go about achieving it.
Some say it is hard, I cannot understand why they say this, it is different yes, but not hard to learn. Actually "learn" is the wrong word to use here, "know" is more appropriate. Once you are told, or read something then you know how to do it. There is a lot to know, yes that it true, but that's makes it more interesting.
If you have never played Wow before and only played FPShooters, you may feel WoW is hard to learn as there are so many skills, talents, gems, glyphs etc etc to take into account. Does not make WoW hard just a lot to take on board, same with Eve.
So what makes it good?
Choice, you choose to do what you want to do, and how you want to do it, with some thought you can do things that no one else has done before, you play the game the way you want to in a universe with a set of rules, similar to the way you live life. This gives an incredible sense of empowerment as well as painful consequences.
You gain experience and do things better next time, this comes naturally to us all as humans, and why it is considered an alternate universe as you can more or less immerse yourself into the game and play by the same life rules as you live or otherwise if that is your liking. This is sometimes manifested physically, as it is not uncommon to hear that players get massive adrenalin rushes when engaging in pvp which is due to the blurring of the lines between reality and the game world.
PS: All, or I should say 99% of all other MMOs are the same thing, with diferent skins, WoW, WAR, Aion, SWTOR, GW2, AoC, Rift TERA, etc so if you want something different in an MMO with the largest pop of any MMO then Eve is it.
Well, I recently started playing EO and while I admit it is a little overwhelming at first, it does get easier with time. One thing I've noticed about this game is that; while you can play solo (by yourself), it really shines as a group playing game. Of all the years playing WoW, I never felt like I had to be in a guild to be meaningful or make a differance (come to think of it, you can't make a differance in WoW...the game just isn't setup that way...sorry..ranting...). The second thing I will say is regarding the whole "EVE is Excel with graphics" comment. Again, while I agree there are many menus....many, many menus, it's because their is so much to do. If they where to make an icon for every action that could be done and put them on the screen, you would need five monitors just to play...lol Anyway, thought I'd give my opion as a newish player.
And a lot of the problems people have with Eve are due to it being a sandbox. There is no path laid out and no natural progression path as there are in a theme park game. This doesn't mean it is better but just different. If it is not your thing then fair enough.
If you have not tried a Sandbox game then perhaps you can give it a try and see. If so, the first thing you need to do is to decide/figure out what you would like to do in the game, of course you can try different things later. Once you know what you want to do then you have to find out how to go about achieving it.
Some say it is hard, I cannot understand why they say this, it is different yes, but not hard to learn. Actually "learn" is the wrong word to use here, "know" is more appropriate. Once you are told, or read something then you know how to do it. There is a lot to know, yes that it true, but that's makes it more interesting.
If you have never played Wow before and only played FPShooters, you may feel WoW is hard to learn as there are so many skills, talents, gems, glyphs etc etc to take into account. Does not make WoW hard just a lot to take on board, same with Eve.
So what makes it good?
Choice, you choose to do what you want to do, and how you want to do it, with some thought you can do things that no one else has done before, you play the game the way you want to in a universe with a set of rules, similar to the way you live life. This gives an incredible sense of empowerment as well as painful consequences.
You gain experience and do things better next time, this comes naturally to us all as humans, and why it is considered an alternate universe as you can more or less immerse yourself into the game and play by the same life rules as you live or otherwise if that is your liking. This is sometimes manifested physically, as it is not uncommon to hear that players get massive adrenalin rushes when engaging in pvp which is due to the blurring of the lines between reality and the game world.
PS: All, or I should say 99% of all other MMOs are the same thing, with diferent skins, WoW, WAR, Aion, SWTOR, GW2, AoC, Rift TERA, etc so if you want something different in an MMO with the largest pop of any MMO then Eve is it.
my previous nessage got hung up in the qoute - was just trying to say that not all gamers like a game where thought is involved, some just like a game where they can relax and not think too much. My Opinion.
Eve is a Great Game... It's sorta like a Rancher rounding up his PvP herd and trying to keep them in one place so they do not wonder into areas the PvE's like to roam. Hopefully, one day that Rancher can figure out how to take his herd to slaughter and the PvE'ers can live in peace once more.
I love Eve and i don't even know why, it intrigues me, always something weird and wonderful happening Corp takeovers, Hgh Sec suicide gankings, Market PvP, it's fun and different and annoying and frustraing go figure
You can do anything in Eve. You can become the most notorious pirate in the galaxy, you can lead a group of heroic pilots on a mission into pirate territory and make them fear your name. You can become an industrialist and have the largest super alliances seek you out for your capital ship building skills. You can make your fortune in trading goods across the galaxy, take contracts from other players to haul goods across systems. You can create and run a corporation under any premise imaginable, you can have them RP bible-thumping amarr loyalists or use them to dominate the galactic market and make a fortune on minerals. Hate miners, have your group blow them up. Have trouble with some griefer corp, hire a few merc corps to hammer them until they beg for mercy. Dont want to keep paying for the game, use ingame cash and buy PLEX and never pay again. It takes a bit of time to get to that points but you can get there in under a year. I have two accounts that pay for themselves and I only play two nights a week.
The biggest attraction in Eve is that you can do what you want, not what some developer decided you should do.
"Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game." - SEANMCAD
I've heard alot of talk about eve, that is's a good game etc.
Well i played the trail, i kinda liked it but it has a hard learning curve
I want to purchase the game, but how long does it take me to understand this game (average)
Thanks!
Eve in not a good game. Eve is a terrible game that A lot of people, myself included, pay to play because we have fun flying around in internet spaceships blowing up other internet spaceships while CCP runs around destroying the game.
Yes the learning curve is really.....interesting and the game is difficult to figure out during those 2 weeks of trial period. And most of the player base i fly with won't even let you fly with them if your not a few months old and have a firm grasp on what to do. There are groups out there who will teach you how to fly like the eve uni corp. They do a good job of teaching you to play from what im told as i never bothered to use them. just flew around and got killed.
And if you purchase this game in the vain hope to understand it you will be wasting your money. No one ever truely understands eve online. There is so much going on between the factions of eve and the devs that all you are trying to do is make isk, kill ships, and not get killed in return. There is to much between the politics of eve that you will get lost if you try to understand everything that goes on between the 0.0 empires. The lowsec pirates only want to kill you steal your stuff and take your isk while the pad their killboards, and the empire carebears just want to be able to fly around in their expensive ships and make easy isk without the griefers stealing their pie.
If you want to play eve online and have a friend playing it. go watch them play it. or get another trial and see if they will help you understand it. otherwise throw the dice and pay for the game and join a learning corp and see how you like it after a few months of play.
"Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live." - Adolf Hitler
You are not grinding levels, you are grinding for money (isk), so the forums will be full of "Best Isk/hr activities?" posts, but when you get down to it, your best isk/hr is to work your crappy minimum wage job in real life for an extra two hours and buy and sell PLEX. Grinding isk in game to the point where it really rolls in will suck your soul dry leaving only a burnt-out husk. You may be tempted to think, "Ok, mining is boring. I'll mission and live off the loot and salvage!" Think again, Missioning IS mining except that instead of locking and firing at a rock, you lock and fire at a ship and is only challenging in the sense of doing graduate-level study of proper ship and fitting for the job.
I'll give them this--you would be hard-pressed to find a more immersive MMORPG. But that is the problem. Most games in an epic, immersive universe skip the drudgery or at least try to make the drudgery seem less. EVE doesn't skip it at all.
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A second account is nice to have, but you can easily substitute having decent social skills. If you're prepared to work with others and put in some effort yourself, then a 2nd account is by no means mandatory.
A friend of mine started EVE around the same time as I did, and he's never had a second account; he was one of the team that won the last alliance tournament, a member of one of the top PvP alliances, and a really nice guy. It's perfectly possible to do what he did and engage in top level PvP with a single account. It's easier with a second account is all.
Give me liberty or give me lasers
lol now you're trolling =P
When I was 15 years old, I use to post excuses like yours when I was left speechless, and cannot come up with anything.
Someone did post that success to them is having fun, and that's a good point of view. That was done after your response, and it does not invalidate my views. (I am having fun as well, or I wouldn't be playing the game)
Another person said having a lot of isk while flying fail fits, is still fail. And I agree with that, you do have to know what you're doing. I said those fail fits are probably RMT'ers, botters, or carebears who cannot afford to lose that ship. It also does not invalidate my views.
However, you still cannot come up with a reason or example of why my views are false, and make no sense. Because if you could, you would have done it already in your previous posts. Well, here's another chance:
I think the definition of elite or "godliness" in this game is: if you can afford to PvP in really expensive ships that other players cannot afford, such as Supers, without the use of RMT. You also have to know what you're doing, and be able to replace it when you lose it. At the same time, you don't need to grind for your isk, all you have to do is login for 15 - 30 minutes once every other day to make all that ISK.
Now I am betting you will respond and say something along the lines of "but I've already listed them, you just can't read or understand what I said, go play the game for yourself I don't have time to explain ". Without actually stating any reasons in your previous posts. Let's see if my bet is right
From what I've been told online (I take everything with a grain of salt of course, but when you hear the same thing over and over again it's hard not to assume it has more than a little truth) it can make all the difference. As for being social, EVE is a game that I could play maybe a couple nights a week for a few hours a piece. Not that I wouldn't play every day if I could, but job/gym/errands/etc tend to take up most of my time.
Is a few days a week for a few hours at a time enough to get in with a corp that would be willing to show me the ropes as a solo account?
You're opinions on my "excuse" notwithstanding, it is something that is, for whatever reason, a big deal to me. Even though I can afford it, the idea of having to pay for two accounts to be competitive just, I don't know the proper word, bothers me I guess. And that's the whole thing, I know that as a new player in EVE I'll be the very bottom of the barrel, but I'm worried starting as a single account will actually increase the learning curve.
(-_-)
If you want to believe that "as a new player in EVE I'll be the very bottom of the barrel", you will be.
This is a true problem of yours - false assumptions and negative thinking.
If you want to spend time thinking why you can't do it instead of how to do it, EVE might not be a game for you.
Absolutely, I'll start a brand new character in a very complex( compartively) game I've never played and I won't be at the bottom of the food chain. That makes perfect sense.
There is a difference between negative thinking and practical thinking. Looking at the situation in a practical manner, I'll be entering a very dangerous world in which I don't know the politics, don't have a powerful ship, don't know the economy well enough to support losing a valuable ship, or have friends to back me up. Are those problems insurmountable? No, of course not. I can join a corp, learn the politics, learn the market, and buy/scam my way into a powerful ship.
And maybe I am assuming some of these things, because I don't know for sure. But then again, that's why I'm here.
However odd it may sound but yes, it does make perfect sense.
The reason is complex mechanics and non-linearity, bigger and expensive ships aren't necessarily better and older characters not having absurd advantage.
Even as a new player, there is a large array of tools at your disposal and if you make a bit of research and take it easy, there is no need to be worried about "being at the bottom of the food chain".
Ive been playin eve for my 3rd year now and i agree that if you dont have anyone to help you at start, you will probably quit. Game will become boring and you wont be able to do anything.
My suggestion to any new player out there is to join RvB. They accept everyone. Its a good place to get into the game. They will lead you. Also you will experience lots of PVP there, even if you are 14 days old character. A great place to learn.
Another thing that i would suggest for new players is to choose what you want to do in game as soon as possible and specialize in that. It can be hard but the sooner you can say: I want to be a trader, or i want to PVP, the better. This way you will be spending minimal amount of skill points on stuff you dont really need for what you want to do in game. If you want to catch up with better players in something you need to specialize. I for instance specialized mostly on Frigates(smallest ships in game) and am only now after 2 years transitioning into cruisers. You can transition way earlier but this is how i like to do stuff. The good thing about eve is that ALL the ships in game are useful. There is NO best ship in game. Fly what you enjoy flying.
For those who dont know what RvB is...
These are two hi-sec alliances Red Federation and Blue Republic. They are constantly at war with each other and are perfect place for new players to learn the tactics etc.
Fly safe. Likuet
That is a good idea only if you want to learn how to pvp and if you already have a source of income. RvB can be very ISK consuming, and it can be hard for a new player that can't earn enough money.
"EVE is likely the best MMORPG that you've never really understood or played" - Kyleran
Occasionally I use a Rifter as a fast tackle in fleets.
It's fun, and it feels good when you get on a battleship / battlecruiser / command ship kill mail. I think it feels better than getting on the kill mail as an interceptor or assault frigate, because you're being isk efficient
I've been playing eve for about a year ALONE, I have never quit, I've just gradually built myself up to the stage where I am happy to say that I can pay for my subscription entirely from ISK earnt from Planetary Interaction, Mining, Manufacturing,and Capital Investments.
I can honestly say that I enjoy the High-learning curve of EVE because its like real life, If you aren't willing to put time and effort into something you aren't going to get a satisfactory return on the investment. I started off by picking a high-profit avenue of Mining and I have stuck to it since and it helped me learn how the mechanics of EVE work together to form this highly competitive, player-driven, complex game. Things are slow in EVE, learning new skills could take days, week and even months! This is what I love about EVE.
From the get-go, this game shoves you straight into a game where Time is the most valuable commodity and how you use this commodity depends on how far you go in this game.
Just my two cents, This game can be played alone, it is dificult but not impossible.
...because it is a Sandbox game.
And a lot of the problems people have with Eve are due to it being a sandbox. There is no path laid out and no natural progression path as there are in a theme park game. This doesn't mean it is better but just different. If it is not your thing then fair enough.
If you have not tried a Sandbox game then perhaps you can give it a try and see. If so, the first thing you need to do is to decide/figure out what you would like to do in the game, of course you can try different things later. Once you know what you want to do then you have to find out how to go about achieving it.
Some say it is hard, I cannot understand why they say this, it is different yes, but not hard to learn. Actually "learn" is the wrong word to use here, "know" is more appropriate. Once you are told, or read something then you know how to do it. There is a lot to know, yes that it true, but that's makes it more interesting.
If you have never played Wow before and only played FPShooters, you may feel WoW is hard to learn as there are so many skills, talents, gems, glyphs etc etc to take into account. Does not make WoW hard just a lot to take on board, same with Eve.
So what makes it good?
Choice, you choose to do what you want to do, and how you want to do it, with some thought you can do things that no one else has done before, you play the game the way you want to in a universe with a set of rules, similar to the way you live life. This gives an incredible sense of empowerment as well as painful consequences.
You gain experience and do things better next time, this comes naturally to us all as humans, and why it is considered an alternate universe as you can more or less immerse yourself into the game and play by the same life rules as you live or otherwise if that is your liking. This is sometimes manifested physically, as it is not uncommon to hear that players get massive adrenalin rushes when engaging in pvp which is due to the blurring of the lines between reality and the game world.
PS: All, or I should say 99% of all other MMOs are the same thing, with diferent skins, WoW, WAR, Aion, SWTOR, GW2, AoC, Rift TERA, etc so if you want something different in an MMO with the largest pop of any MMO then Eve is it.
Well, I recently started playing EO and while I admit it is a little overwhelming at first, it does get easier with time. One thing I've noticed about this game is that; while you can play solo (by yourself), it really shines as a group playing game. Of all the years playing WoW, I never felt like I had to be in a guild to be meaningful or make a differance (come to think of it, you can't make a differance in WoW...the game just isn't setup that way...sorry..ranting...). The second thing I will say is regarding the whole "EVE is Excel with graphics" comment. Again, while I agree there are many menus....many, many menus, it's because their is so much to do. If they where to make an icon for every action that could be done and put them on the screen, you would need five monitors just to play...lol Anyway, thought I'd give my opion as a newish player.
Currently bored with MMO's.
my previous nessage got hung up in the qoute - was just trying to say that not all gamers like a game where thought is involved, some just like a game where they can relax and not think too much. My Opinion.
Currently bored with MMO's.
Eve is a Great Game... It's sorta like a Rancher rounding up his PvP herd and trying to keep them in one place so they do not wonder into areas the PvE's like to roam. Hopefully, one day that Rancher can figure out how to take his herd to slaughter and the PvE'ers can live in peace once more.
Ratero.
I love Eve and i don't even know why, it intrigues me, always something weird and wonderful happening Corp takeovers, Hgh Sec suicide gankings, Market PvP, it's fun and different and annoying and frustraing go figure
"All expectation leads to suffering" Buhhda
You can do anything in Eve. You can become the most notorious pirate in the galaxy, you can lead a group of heroic pilots on a mission into pirate territory and make them fear your name. You can become an industrialist and have the largest super alliances seek you out for your capital ship building skills. You can make your fortune in trading goods across the galaxy, take contracts from other players to haul goods across systems. You can create and run a corporation under any premise imaginable, you can have them RP bible-thumping amarr loyalists or use them to dominate the galactic market and make a fortune on minerals. Hate miners, have your group blow them up. Have trouble with some griefer corp, hire a few merc corps to hammer them until they beg for mercy. Dont want to keep paying for the game, use ingame cash and buy PLEX and never pay again. It takes a bit of time to get to that points but you can get there in under a year. I have two accounts that pay for themselves and I only play two nights a week.
The biggest attraction in Eve is that you can do what you want, not what some developer decided you should do.
Eve in not a good game. Eve is a terrible game that A lot of people, myself included, pay to play because we have fun flying around in internet spaceships blowing up other internet spaceships while CCP runs around destroying the game.
Yes the learning curve is really.....interesting and the game is difficult to figure out during those 2 weeks of trial period. And most of the player base i fly with won't even let you fly with them if your not a few months old and have a firm grasp on what to do. There are groups out there who will teach you how to fly like the eve uni corp. They do a good job of teaching you to play from what im told as i never bothered to use them. just flew around and got killed.
And if you purchase this game in the vain hope to understand it you will be wasting your money. No one ever truely understands eve online. There is so much going on between the factions of eve and the devs that all you are trying to do is make isk, kill ships, and not get killed in return. There is to much between the politics of eve that you will get lost if you try to understand everything that goes on between the 0.0 empires. The lowsec pirates only want to kill you steal your stuff and take your isk while the pad their killboards, and the empire carebears just want to be able to fly around in their expensive ships and make easy isk without the griefers stealing their pie.
If you want to play eve online and have a friend playing it. go watch them play it. or get another trial and see if they will help you understand it. otherwise throw the dice and pay for the game and join a learning corp and see how you like it after a few months of play.
"Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live."
- Adolf Hitler
Give me liberty or give me lasers
You are not grinding levels, you are grinding for money (isk), so the forums will be full of "Best Isk/hr activities?" posts, but when you get down to it, your best isk/hr is to work your crappy minimum wage job in real life for an extra two hours and buy and sell PLEX. Grinding isk in game to the point where it really rolls in will suck your soul dry leaving only a burnt-out husk. You may be tempted to think, "Ok, mining is boring. I'll mission and live off the loot and salvage!" Think again, Missioning IS mining except that instead of locking and firing at a rock, you lock and fire at a ship and is only challenging in the sense of doing graduate-level study of proper ship and fitting for the job.
I'll give them this--you would be hard-pressed to find a more immersive MMORPG. But that is the problem. Most games in an epic, immersive universe skip the drudgery or at least try to make the drudgery seem less. EVE doesn't skip it at all.