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even if it manages to be okay as an mmo, it wont be good as a tes title
puffmouse
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if you played skyrim, oblivion, morrowind, played them on pc, and modded the hell out of them to do everything you wanted to. All those things like sailing a ship around morrowind, to having your own personal army of pirates to attack a town, to riding around on a flying horse or leaping spider. Standing on the highest balcony of the fortress you designed yourself and looking out onto the distant mountains to one side and the north sea on the other, while your followers and traders idled about. Custom armors, custom bodies, custom skins, some of which you spent time designing your self. And all the adult things that could happen along the way. Putting up camp with all your followers, dragging things around by yourself manually, setting up crafting stations where you want them, throwing a big orgy party around the fire in the woods outside of riften. Then watching the sun come up the next day while some rabbits wander by that you can kill and eat. Because you were actually hungry and had the stats to prove it. And after packing up camp and gathering your followers you try to remember... what was that main quest thing again?
then you should understand where i am coming from.
nexus and loverslab have been my secret home for the last what -ten years, fullfilling nearly every desire in these games from the mundane to the ridiculous. And whatever system I did not want I could remove, it was my world, my choices. creatures could level, or not level, be aggressive, or passive.
and the social aspect of the game was testing out other peoples creations and helping them and critiquing them on their work.
All of this is about to be taken away. You will see none of these things in the tes mmo. and the tes mmo will take away the chances for tes to follow this path any further.
If you did not care about these things when you played previous tes games then why were you playing them exactly?
The game lore itself is not really all that special or different from any other fantasy based game out there?
The back story does not provide some sort of special approach to gaming that any other fantasy lore also provide.
If the modding and personal control you had over your game world meant nothing to you then why did you play?
If these things do matter to you, then you must see that an mmo can provide none of the things that really matter to this series and the people who really care about it?
I would have been a little more comfortable if they had just announced they were making a multi player version, where people could choose to join in and let others into their version of the game, maybe to explore other peoples personal unreleased mods and creations.
but with this mmo the creative space will be gone. and for what? what is our gain that is worth throwing away the whole point of this series?
the sacrifice is us, the ones who have been modding, we are the ones being cast aside.
the gain is just more cash. for them.
I am hoping there will be another company that will step in and bring us what the tes series SHOULD have evolved into. A more complete fantasy world platform, with more environment controls, an expansive console command list, more direct tools and greater construction set integration. And finally the ability to setup your own small multiplayer servers with options for restricted access, like the nwn series did from the beginning. that is all most of us really wanted. because we already know what happens.
you invite the neighbor kids over to play in your sandbox, and all they do is step all over your castles.
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what I would have liked to see from NWN as well as TES is specialized server hosting.
When I ran my server I constantly had trouble makers and hacks etc. If they wanted they could sell it as a new form of an MMO. Basically a lot of highly managed servers focused on the game itself. I would have paid for that both as a host and as a player
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Its actually better that they (didnt) make it similar to the single player ES games... now you have something to look forward to when Bethseda releases thier next great single player installment ...
im thinking that, success or fail, this mmo will kill off the next iteration of tes and the modding communities eventual hopes for the next update to their platform.
if it fails, damage goes to the brand harming future efforts for tes. if it succeeds, will they bother making a releasing another tes to follow skyrim? they would see it as a single player competitor to their own game?
Why would they not when Skyrim was their most widely well received release yet of the franchise? There's a reason Bethesda said "MMO's are not what we do, we'll continue working in the fashion we always have. We're passionate about single-player games." paraphrased from an interview with Todd Howard, when posed teh question at one of the conventions last year, I'll provide a link if I find it. I really don't think you have to worry about that. It's their main and most important franchise.
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They could make an MMORPG with the ability to shape the world yourself, just like you did with mods. They could make an exploration based sandbox mmorpg with player built castles, ships, cities, dungeons, caves, and so on. The sky is the limit. However, they won't. They will add tab targetting, hotkeys with cooldowns, kill 10 wolf quests, instanced dungeons, raids, dungeon finders, raid finders, instanced pvp, and faction point grinding. Yay themepark!
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I will play no more MMORPGs until somethign good comes out!
I vaguely remember that statement from somewhere. When I read it I took that as assurance that this mmo announcement thing was never going to happen because they were not interested in it.
If the mmo just happens and has no impact at all on the direction of the single player games then everything will be just fine.
I just cant imagine who the hell will be playing it. Except people who are tired of the other mmos.
And in that case why even call it tes and drag the brand through the mud, instead of something like, another companies attempt online(acao). The people playing it wont know the difference if its elder scrolls or what.
The people who would know the difference, will be busy modding skyrim and waiting for the announcement of the game they really want to play next.