Originally posted by ShakyMo It has three separate groups of pve provinces, they aren't cost cutting like gw2 & tsw
but will they be kept seperate, or will players be able to PvE in other faction's provinces? Like AoC has three distinct areas for its factions, but they're all shared, not isolated like the realms in DAoC.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
As a DAOC vet i am very glade to see the 3 faction PVP come back in any game. DAOC would be the game to look at. I can't wait for this game and Ebonheart FTW! Can't wait for this and my DE to gut those panzy daggerfell* I have a feeling they will be the Albion of this game ugh*
Really? The ebonheart pact sounds like the albion of the ESO. It has the huge popular human race nord and always favourited dark elves.
I think 95% of MMORPGs will be WoW clones until economies improve in Europe and the US. I doubt anyone is willing to take risks and do something truly different.
You have no idea, i used my brain just fine lad, you`re the one that needs to know the basic of 3 faction pvp. Not my fault you grew up with wow and it`s 2 faction type crap or SWTOR. You will be ok just do some reading and research then come back TC.
Grew up with WoW? Lol...
I grew up with Ultima and im nearly sure i could be ur Dad, but thats not the Topic.
If you dont understand the Tec behind it, i cant help u. U will learn then. Hard Way.
A game like this would do better with FFA pvp as opposed to 3 faction. FFA gives people the ability to form their own factions which is much more eldar scrollsy than forcing people into factions. I foresee another SWTOR type disaster.
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I think 95% of MMORPGs will be WoW clones until economies improve in Europe and the US. I doubt anyone is willing to take risks and do something truly different.
was the economy crap too when wow cloned everquest?
Thus far I haven't seen them talk about anything that justifies a subscription in the current MMO environment. They don't seem to be talking about any NEW features to MMO's and sure as heck aren't paying too much attention to the "Elder Scrolls" aspect of it. If it's a subscription based game, I'm calling it right now that it will be stillborn. They have a TON of work to do after this initial salvo of information that's pissed off just about everyone (MMO players aren't too excited, most TES fans I've seen are pretty insulted ect).
Can't be any good. 2013 will give proof of that. Until then, its the usual Marketing "blabla".
Northing of worth.
First off, SWTOR had only two factions. Secondly, BW doesn't use the traditional Hero engine, they use a gutted version of it that they botched. If you doubt it, read BW's own interview discussion about it.
As much as I like three faction PvP, I can't say that I am excited about this one, considering it is Bethesda. Skyrim was a big buggy piece of crap (and still is, for me at least). I guess I will be in a holding pattern until beta comes.
Sure its 3 faction, but only in 1 zone. So this might as well be like an RvR lake from WAR. Plus TESO will have raiding and dungeon grinding for the best gear, so unlike DAoC and very much like the failure of ToA, those with more time will envitably out perfrom those who dont....Artifacts or Epic Purplez from dungeons, whats the difference. I can not see any logical DAoC player happy with this.
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I really dont see what the problem is, if you were on MMORPG.com when skyrim came out... you would of seen all the threads stating how The Elderscrolls would not make a great mmo. If your looking for TES experience your gunna hafta play the single player Bethseda release
Im going to buy every 3 faction game coming out until im tired of the DoaC clones XD
I didnt see 1 post saying any such thing, dont make crap up. I loved Skyrim and this site exploded with Skyrim joy and many posts detailed how awesome it would be to see a Skyrim sandbox MMO.
A few people here parrot the party line that was fed to them by Zenimax, TES features cant be done but the truth is they are to f***ing scared to take a chance on a sandbox game so they develop WoW clone# 297. Escpiecally true when you consider everything that was in that release quote has been done before some of it as far back as 1999. Such as Housing, its a f***ing shame a company will go out of their way to implement an activity that less 10% of the player population will participate in (raiding) but refuse to implement a feature that only 30-50% will be able to take advantage of (player housing) because it cant be done right. Which means that they cant add enough real estate to offer 100% of players a house. It makes you go derp thinging of the assinine thinking like this.
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Sure its 3 faction, but only in 1 zone. So this might as well be like an RvR lake from WAR. Plus TESO will have raiding and dungeon grinding for the best gear, so unlike DAoC and very much like the failure of ToA, those with more time will envitably out perfrom those who dont....Artifacts or Epic Purplez from dungeons, whats the difference. I can not see any logical DAoC player happy with this.
The DoaC player that didnt leave after ToA to play WoW LOL!
Sure its 3 faction, but only in 1 zone. So this might as well be like an RvR lake from WAR. Plus TESO will have raiding and dungeon grinding for the best gear, so unlike DAoC and very much like the failure of ToA, those with more time will envitably out perfrom those who dont....Artifacts or Epic Purplez from dungeons, whats the difference. I can not see any logical DAoC player happy with this.
The DoaC player that didnt leave after ToA to play WoW LOL!
You mean the 200 that stuck around? New Frontiers and ToA gutted their playerbase. It was as bad a decision as UO trammel or SWG NGE
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Yay three faction pvp with mixed races that likely have little to no reason for being part of an alliance to begin with. I'm sure they made up a tale to make it all kosher in their eyes but honestly they just wanted to have three factions and with ten races, why not just kick the imperials, whom would probably arguably be the least played race (cept people like me who only play imperials), to the side and group the rest in 3's. So effin lame. Why do these developers think in such small boxes. Why 3 factions and not 5 or 10. Make it epic, go big. This is cheese ball. I thought TESO would be the saving grace, now theyll be lucky to save face.
Sure its 3 faction, but only in 1 zone. So this might as well be like an RvR lake from WAR. Plus TESO will have raiding and dungeon grinding for the best gear, so unlike DAoC and very much like the failure of ToA, those with more time will envitably out perfrom those who dont....Artifacts or Epic Purplez from dungeons, whats the difference. I can not see any logical DAoC player happy with this.
I'm fine with having purple dungeon drops, just don't make it so this ONE set is allmight over all else, balance out a LARGE amount of endgame gear so you get different builds, so there isn't the flavor of the month (Think WAR and SW:TOR tier based PvP gear, top tier was your one goal).
As for the PvP i see DAoC as a 1 zone fight, it's just so large it could be considered 12 zones from most games, i'm fine with a smaller feel to it, but don't make it linear. Don't make it so i have to take this to get to the next obj. Don't make it so i have to take Crauchon to get to Nged, i should be able to sneak around with 60 people and go take Nged by surprise. War didn't really do that for me, to progress in Elf you had to take this obj, then that one, in a fairly set order (atleast thats how it felt for me). Make it so me and my groups can cause some havoc when faction 2 is atacking faction 3, THATs what i want from TESO. Gear i can stand with so long as it isn't overkill, but a not well thought out RvR/PvP i won't do.
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I really dont see what the problem is, if you were on MMORPG.com when skyrim came out... you would of seen all the threads stating how The Elderscrolls would not make a great mmo. If your looking for TES experience your gunna hafta play the single player Bethseda release
Im going to buy every 3 faction game coming out until im tired of the DoaC clones XD
I didnt see 1 post saying any such thing, dont make crap up. I loved Skyrim and this site exploded with Skyrim joy and many posts detailed how awesome it would be to see a Skyrim sandbox MMO.
A few people here parrot the party line that was fed to them by Zenimax, TES features cant be done but the truth is they are to f***ing scared to take a chance on a sandbox game so they develop WoW clone# 297. Escpiecally true when you consider everything that was in that release quote has been done before some of it as far back as 1999. Such as Housing, its a f***ing shame a company will go out of their way to implement an activity that less 10% of the player population will participate in (raiding) but refuse to implement a feature that only 30-50% will be able to take advantage of (player housing) because it cant be done right. Which means that they cant add enough real estate to offer 100% of players a house. It makes you go derp thinging of the assinine thinking like this.
Come on bro, why would I make this up? I did a quick google search because the site search isnt working
And these arent even the many iv seen regarding making ES games into a mmo ... Read it for yourself you will see that many of the posters said the very same thing I said ... ES is better off single player because its never going to live up to its standard being an MMO
LOL 200 hundred? only 200 people played Daoc after ToA? LOL you just sound bitter about the TESO not being the game you want it to be... relax its really not that serious
edit* Zlylaxx - I see what your saying ... your right, I should of worded different... I said "threads" but I meant "Posts"
Heh, I was a bit curious how are they going to lure the usual gullible idiots to pay for this crap, so now I know. Only few days ago they told how it has all the same bells and whistles as WoW, and now they try to sell it as DAoC 2.0.
Can't wait to see when they come up with 'Collector's Edition Preorder Pack' with plastic dolls inside, price tag 200. At least I can get a few laughs out of this disaster.
I really dont see what the problem is, if you were on MMORPG.com when skyrim came out... you would of seen all the threads stating how The Elderscrolls would not make a great mmo. If your looking for TES experience your gunna hafta play the single player Bethseda release
Im going to buy every 3 faction game coming out until im tired of the DoaC clones XD
I didnt see 1 post saying any such thing, dont make crap up. I loved Skyrim and this site exploded with Skyrim joy and many posts detailed how awesome it would be to see a Skyrim sandbox MMO.
A few people here parrot the party line that was fed to them by Zenimax, TES features cant be done but the truth is they are to f***ing scared to take a chance on a sandbox game so they develop WoW clone# 297. Escpiecally true when you consider everything that was in that release quote has been done before some of it as far back as 1999. Such as Housing, its a f***ing shame a company will go out of their way to implement an activity that less 10% of the player population will participate in (raiding) but refuse to implement a feature that only 30-50% will be able to take advantage of (player housing) because it cant be done right. Which means that they cant add enough real estate to offer 100% of players a house. It makes you go derp thinging of the assinine thinking like this.
Come on bro, why would I make this up? I did a quick google search because the site search isnt working
And these arent even the many iv seen regarding making ES games into a mmo ... Read it for yourself you will see that many of the posters said the very same thing I said ... ES is better off single player because its never going to live up to its standard being an MMO
LOL 200 hundred? only 200 people played Daoc after ToA? LOL you just sound bitter about the TESO not being the game you want it to be... relax its really not that serious
edit* Zlylaxx - I see what your saying ... your right, I should of worded different... I said "threads" but I meant "Posts"
TESO could live up to the name brand if it actually followed the NAME BRAND. When you slap a name ontop a WoW clone it doesnt make it magically good. If Zenimax actually designed the majority of gameplay to follow the TES model, no matter how hard it would be to implement (which I disagree BTW) then you wouldnt have this backlash.
As for the 200 comment, its called Hyperbole and I have yet to see anyone who thinks ToA was a great expansion to DAoC. Everyone I know, knows that ToA gutted the RvR scene and became the downward spiral to the game.
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I dont think the biggest choice is which faction to play but rather if we want to play yet another ThemePark. Specially from a franchise which is known for open ended world and not being on rails.
Yet again I'll point out that DAOC's PvP was a failure due to population imbalances. Albs dominated most servers, and it ceased being fun for most people (hence why they left). Mythic tried their best to get people to balance out the realms, but you can't make people move, especially when you want them to go from a winning side to a losing side.
The rose colored glasses are practically opaque when it comes to SW:G and how "wonderful it was pre NGE" and DAOC and it's PvP.
There goes another game into the dark abyss. If you don't remember Matt Firor is the challenged individual who ruined DAoC with the Trials of Atlantis design and who refused to fix it(aka with overpowered crowd control, stealth and quest items/spells). Good luck with that fruitcake on the project.
Every single bit of new information that comes out makes me not like TESO even more. So now not only is it not Bethesda making the game, nor is it just that the team is being led by a DAoC designer with no one from another game, nor is it just vastly changing gameplay aspects from TES...now its showing itself to basically be DAoC 2.
TESO is going to be TES in name only. Makes me not want to ever buy another TES again since they are doing something with the name that I cannot type here cause its against the rules...think of what you call a woman that sells herself.
That is what they are doing with the TES name.
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There goes another game into the dark abyss. If you don't remember Matt Firor is the challenged individual who ruined DAoC with the Trials of Atlantis design and who refused to fix it(aka with overpowered crowd control, stealth and quest items/spells). Good luck with that fruitcake on the project.
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I really dont see what the problem is, if you were on MMORPG.com when skyrim came out... you would of seen all the threads stating how The Elderscrolls would not make a great mmo. If your looking for TES experience your gunna hafta play the single player Bethseda release Im going to buy every 3 faction game coming out until im tired of the DoaC clones XD
I didnt see 1 post saying any such thing, dont make crap up. I loved Skyrim and this site exploded with Skyrim joy and many posts detailed how awesome it would be to see a Skyrim sandbox MMO.
A few people here parrot the party line that was fed to them by Zenimax, TES features cant be done but the truth is they are to f***ing scared to take a chance on a sandbox game so they develop WoW clone# 297. Escpiecally true when you consider everything that was in that release quote has been done before some of it as far back as 1999. Such as Housing, its a f***ing shame a company will go out of their way to implement an activity that less 10% of the player population will participate in (raiding) but refuse to implement a feature that only 30-50% will be able to take advantage of (player housing) because it cant be done right. Which means that they cant add enough real estate to offer 100% of players a house. It makes you go derp thinging of the assinine thinking like this.
Come on bro, why would I make this up? I did a quick google search because the site search isnt working
And these arent even the many iv seen regarding making ES games into a mmo ... Read it for yourself you will see that many of the posters said the very same thing I said ... ES is better off single player because its never going to live up to its standard being an MMO
LOL 200 hundred? only 200 people played Daoc after ToA? LOL you just sound bitter about the TESO not being the game you want it to be... relax its really not that serious
edit* Zlylaxx - I see what your saying ... your right, I should of worded different... I said "threads" but I meant "Posts"
TESO could live up to the name brand if it actually followed the NAME BRAND. When you slap a name ontop a WoW clone it doesnt make it magically good. If Zenimax actually designed the majority of gameplay to follow the TES model, no matter how hard it would be to implement (which I disagree BTW) then you wouldnt have this backlash.
As for the 200 comment, its called Hyperbole and I have yet to see anyone who thinks ToA was a great expansion to DAoC. Everyone I know, knows that ToA gutted the RvR scene and became the downward spiral to the game.
Anybody that played Daoc would agree that ToA was bad... 75% of the people that left DoaC at the time of ToA went to play WoW (pure speculation). Left one equipment grind to another... I wanted a sandbox too, but I also understand making the game like skyrim online would be nearly impossible
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but will they be kept seperate, or will players be able to PvE in other faction's provinces? Like AoC has three distinct areas for its factions, but they're all shared, not isolated like the realms in DAoC.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
Really? The ebonheart pact sounds like the albion of the ESO. It has the huge popular human race nord and always favourited dark elves.
I think 95% of MMORPGs will be WoW clones until economies improve in Europe and the US. I doubt anyone is willing to take risks and do something truly different.
looks good GW2 then TESO next year.
Grew up with WoW? Lol...
I grew up with Ultima and im nearly sure i could be ur Dad, but thats not the Topic.
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A game like this would do better with FFA pvp as opposed to 3 faction. FFA gives people the ability to form their own factions which is much more eldar scrollsy than forcing people into factions. I foresee another SWTOR type disaster.
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was the economy crap too when wow cloned everquest?
Thus far I haven't seen them talk about anything that justifies a subscription in the current MMO environment. They don't seem to be talking about any NEW features to MMO's and sure as heck aren't paying too much attention to the "Elder Scrolls" aspect of it. If it's a subscription based game, I'm calling it right now that it will be stillborn. They have a TON of work to do after this initial salvo of information that's pissed off just about everyone (MMO players aren't too excited, most TES fans I've seen are pretty insulted ect).
Stop comparing these games to DAOC. If you pine for it so badly, go and play it. Servers are STILL around.
It's the next WoW, it's the next DAOC. You're setting yourself up for failure to early on in development.
With the general reaction on the internet, you'll be lucky if this sees the light of day.
As much as I like three faction PvP, I can't say that I am excited about this one, considering it is Bethesda. Skyrim was a big buggy piece of crap (and still is, for me at least). I guess I will be in a holding pattern until beta comes.
How can any DAoC fan be pleased with this?
Sure its 3 faction, but only in 1 zone. So this might as well be like an RvR lake from WAR. Plus TESO will have raiding and dungeon grinding for the best gear, so unlike DAoC and very much like the failure of ToA, those with more time will envitably out perfrom those who dont....Artifacts or Epic Purplez from dungeons, whats the difference. I can not see any logical DAoC player happy with this.
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I didnt see 1 post saying any such thing, dont make crap up. I loved Skyrim and this site exploded with Skyrim joy and many posts detailed how awesome it would be to see a Skyrim sandbox MMO.
A few people here parrot the party line that was fed to them by Zenimax, TES features cant be done but the truth is they are to f***ing scared to take a chance on a sandbox game so they develop WoW clone# 297. Escpiecally true when you consider everything that was in that release quote has been done before some of it as far back as 1999. Such as Housing, its a f***ing shame a company will go out of their way to implement an activity that less 10% of the player population will participate in (raiding) but refuse to implement a feature that only 30-50% will be able to take advantage of (player housing) because it cant be done right. Which means that they cant add enough real estate to offer 100% of players a house. It makes you go derp thinging of the assinine thinking like this.
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Next Flop: Planetside 2
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The DoaC player that didnt leave after ToA to play WoW LOL!
You mean the 200 that stuck around? New Frontiers and ToA gutted their playerbase. It was as bad a decision as UO trammel or SWG NGE
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Yay three faction pvp with mixed races that likely have little to no reason for being part of an alliance to begin with. I'm sure they made up a tale to make it all kosher in their eyes but honestly they just wanted to have three factions and with ten races, why not just kick the imperials, whom would probably arguably be the least played race (cept people like me who only play imperials), to the side and group the rest in 3's. So effin lame. Why do these developers think in such small boxes. Why 3 factions and not 5 or 10. Make it epic, go big. This is cheese ball. I thought TESO would be the saving grace, now theyll be lucky to save face.
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I'm fine with having purple dungeon drops, just don't make it so this ONE set is allmight over all else, balance out a LARGE amount of endgame gear so you get different builds, so there isn't the flavor of the month (Think WAR and SW:TOR tier based PvP gear, top tier was your one goal).
As for the PvP i see DAoC as a 1 zone fight, it's just so large it could be considered 12 zones from most games, i'm fine with a smaller feel to it, but don't make it linear. Don't make it so i have to take this to get to the next obj. Don't make it so i have to take Crauchon to get to Nged, i should be able to sneak around with 60 people and go take Nged by surprise. War didn't really do that for me, to progress in Elf you had to take this obj, then that one, in a fairly set order (atleast thats how it felt for me). Make it so me and my groups can cause some havoc when faction 2 is atacking faction 3, THATs what i want from TESO. Gear i can stand with so long as it isn't overkill, but a not well thought out RvR/PvP i won't do.
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Come on bro, why would I make this up? I did a quick google search because the site search isnt working
http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/Teala/112011/22294_Why-is-Skyrim-such-a-success-and-considered-the-best-MMORPG-that-is-not-an-MMORPG
http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/5801
And these arent even the many iv seen regarding making ES games into a mmo ... Read it for yourself you will see that many of the posters said the very same thing I said ... ES is better off single player because its never going to live up to its standard being an MMO
LOL 200 hundred? only 200 people played Daoc after ToA? LOL you just sound bitter about the TESO not being the game you want it to be... relax its really not that serious
edit* Zlylaxx - I see what your saying ... your right, I should of worded different... I said "threads" but I meant "Posts"
Heh, I was a bit curious how are they going to lure the usual gullible idiots to pay for this crap, so now I know. Only few days ago they told how it has all the same bells and whistles as WoW, and now they try to sell it as DAoC 2.0.
Can't wait to see when they come up with 'Collector's Edition Preorder Pack' with plastic dolls inside, price tag 200. At least I can get a few laughs out of this disaster.
TESO could live up to the name brand if it actually followed the NAME BRAND. When you slap a name ontop a WoW clone it doesnt make it magically good. If Zenimax actually designed the majority of gameplay to follow the TES model, no matter how hard it would be to implement (which I disagree BTW) then you wouldnt have this backlash.
As for the 200 comment, its called Hyperbole and I have yet to see anyone who thinks ToA was a great expansion to DAoC. Everyone I know, knows that ToA gutted the RvR scene and became the downward spiral to the game.
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Next Flop: Planetside 2
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I dont think the biggest choice is which faction to play but rather if we want to play yet another ThemePark. Specially from a franchise which is known for open ended world and not being on rails.
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Yet again I'll point out that DAOC's PvP was a failure due to population imbalances. Albs dominated most servers, and it ceased being fun for most people (hence why they left). Mythic tried their best to get people to balance out the realms, but you can't make people move, especially when you want them to go from a winning side to a losing side.
The rose colored glasses are practically opaque when it comes to SW:G and how "wonderful it was pre NGE" and DAOC and it's PvP.
There goes another game into the dark abyss. If you don't remember Matt Firor is the challenged individual who ruined DAoC with the Trials of Atlantis design and who refused to fix it(aka with overpowered crowd control, stealth and quest items/spells). Good luck with that fruitcake on the project.
Every single bit of new information that comes out makes me not like TESO even more. So now not only is it not Bethesda making the game, nor is it just that the team is being led by a DAoC designer with no one from another game, nor is it just vastly changing gameplay aspects from TES...now its showing itself to basically be DAoC 2.
TESO is going to be TES in name only. Makes me not want to ever buy another TES again since they are doing something with the name that I cannot type here cause its against the rules...think of what you call a woman that sells herself.
That is what they are doing with the TES name.
I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson
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I didnt see 1 post saying any such thing, dont make crap up. I loved Skyrim and this site exploded with Skyrim joy and many posts detailed how awesome it would be to see a Skyrim sandbox MMO.
A few people here parrot the party line that was fed to them by Zenimax, TES features cant be done but the truth is they are to f***ing scared to take a chance on a sandbox game so they develop WoW clone# 297. Escpiecally true when you consider everything that was in that release quote has been done before some of it as far back as 1999. Such as Housing, its a f***ing shame a company will go out of their way to implement an activity that less 10% of the player population will participate in (raiding) but refuse to implement a feature that only 30-50% will be able to take advantage of (player housing) because it cant be done right. Which means that they cant add enough real estate to offer 100% of players a house. It makes you go derp thinging of the assinine thinking like this.
Come on bro, why would I make this up? I did a quick google search because the site search isnt working
http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/Teala/112011/22294_Why-is-Skyrim-such-a-success-and-considered-the-best-MMORPG-that-is-not-an-MMORPG
http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/5801
And these arent even the many iv seen regarding making ES games into a mmo ... Read it for yourself you will see that many of the posters said the very same thing I said ... ES is better off single player because its never going to live up to its standard being an MMO
LOL 200 hundred? only 200 people played Daoc after ToA? LOL you just sound bitter about the TESO not being the game you want it to be... relax its really not that serious
edit* Zlylaxx - I see what your saying ... your right, I should of worded different... I said "threads" but I meant "Posts"
TESO could live up to the name brand if it actually followed the NAME BRAND. When you slap a name ontop a WoW clone it doesnt make it magically good. If Zenimax actually designed the majority of gameplay to follow the TES model, no matter how hard it would be to implement (which I disagree BTW) then you wouldnt have this backlash.
As for the 200 comment, its called Hyperbole and I have yet to see anyone who thinks ToA was a great expansion to DAoC. Everyone I know, knows that ToA gutted the RvR scene and became the downward spiral to the game.
Anybody that played Daoc would agree that ToA was bad... 75% of the people that left DoaC at the time of ToA went to play WoW (pure speculation). Left one equipment grind to another... I wanted a sandbox too, but I also understand making the game like skyrim online would be nearly impossible