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How is Diablo 3 an RPG?
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For what it's worth, I heard this same argument back when Diablo I launched: "There's no way you can call this game an RPG"; "It's an insult to RPGs to call this game one", etc....
Well, the ARPGs may have little in the way of RP gaming apart from the fact that your character grows in power in time, but enough time has a tendency to beat any protests to new categorization... And this one just seems to have stuck.
So I'd say there's little point in arguing over this now that these games have a whole sub-section of RPG gaming.
Threads like this are what's wrong with pretty much any community, ever.
The op posts, asking a question, that is not in any way intended to be answered. He then proceeds to blatantly bash anyone that disagrees, no matter what they say at all.
This is my question;
If you don't care what anyone has to say about the subject, and you've made up your mind on the matter, why the hell are you posting at all? You think we care about your views any more than you care about ours when you do this?
People like this make me have to take rage breaks from this site.
Also, stop sarcastically proding people, we understand what you're doing, it's not as funny as you think it is, and it serves no purpose.
Actually Comparing Heroquest to D&D and Diablo to Baldurs gate are both rather close.
Diablo have some roleplaying elements, that is true, just as Hero quest have some, or Talisman. Still not enough to make it a RPG game.
But that does not make Diablo less fun than any other game. No one called Diablo 1 or 2 a RPG 10-15 years ago.
And yeah, same here.
(Edit: I must buy a new keyboard, the #¤% space key works only when it wants to).
If u thonk Diablo 3 is not a RPG man... u just dont know what RPG games are....
Nice trolling. Funny because it's working.
Anyway back on topic. Who gives a crap if its an RPG or not, if he thinks it's like CoD or not then whatever floats his boat. It's gonna be a fun game eitherway i really couldn't care less what genre it's under when i go searching for it on amazon.
Well like some others said in this thread before.
Almost noone called Diablo I an RPG.
It was almost universally in gamers magazines , at gaming conventions , in internet (althrough it was much 'smaller medium' back then) was called hack & slash game.
Categorizing it as RPG. is new thing
Same as characterizing it as mmo or even mmorpg.
Which is even more hilarious.
It is H&S.
You can argue it has some rpg elements ,but noone that's it.
Same as 50% of games nowadays have some rpg elements to it.
Like MOBA games , some fps or even strategy games ,etc
I am not going to read up on TL2. There's no point really as I've already bought the game on steam. I love action RPGs and I buy every single one that comes out. TL was for all it's worth one of the best Diablo 2 clones so now that it has multiplayer I am much more willing to give it a real shot. And it's only 14.99 pounds which is a bargain! It's good to hear they have dedicated servers.
Mission in life: Vanquish all MMORPG.com trolls - especially TESO, WOW and GW2 trolls.
It's not an RPG and nevre was, IMO. Nor do I need it to be. We always called them Hack&Slashes.
That is just not true. I clearly remember a lot of magazines (and websites) categorizing it as RPG, to the point that there were even articles protesting this very categorization! I remember this point being fervently discussed in the forums as well, just because of gaming press's use of the term "RPG".
It *was* called "hack & slash" alright, but only as part of the full, much more applied term: "hack & slash RPG".
Not that I agree with the op, because I definitely think that D3 is an rpg, but doesn't your definition mean that nearly every videogame ever made is an rpg.
I am not hating on Diablo III and anything (not even planning on playing so i will stay neutral on this one) but i get pretty frustrated when i see people that dont know what RP in RPG means.
Quote from Wikipedia:
A role-playing game (RPG and sometimes roleplaying game) is a game in which players assume the roles of characters in a fictional setting. Players take responsibility for acting out these roles within a narrative, either through literal acting, or through a process of structured decision-making or character development. Actions taken within many games succeed or fail according to a formal system of rules and guidelines
RP stands for Roleplaying. It forms it roots back in early 70's in early days of DnD pen and paper game. You TAKE A ROLE on the character that you create on paper or 'Character Sheet'. Similar to what you do it when you play an acting role in theater on at the movie set.
Only difference is that at PC RPGs you have Character Creation Window instead of "character sheet". Is Diablo III RPG. Diablo serial as a whole never was an RPG. It was all about Dungeon Crawling like Rogue, Gauntlet and all games before it was.
I advise you to go to the Hobby store, get a book called "Dungeons and Dragons", buy couple of those strange dices, get some pens and a lot of blank and graph papers, bring some friends with you along and you will get what i am talking about.
EDIT: forgot about those plastic miniatures, but you can use an those plastic soldiers figurines for kids or coin tokens or whatever you desire to represent your characters on battle grid
odd because i recall playing quite a few RPG games (like dragon warrior for example) that have no customization.
i would agree that this game has limited customization compared to some other modern RPG's but that doesn't mean it isn't an RPG.
to me RPG's have always been about building your character up over time and making it a more powerfull version with upgraded spells and abilities.
D3 has all of that and more.
and to the OP that compares it to COD......yeah, COD does in fact have RPG elements to it but its still a mindless shooter game at its core.
just like Diablo is a mindless hack and slash at its core.
its always been that way with all the Diablo games, having less customization doesn't change that and IMO if you want to play a game with more customization there are plenty out there to chose from, go play them.
Did you really just call somone a child and then in the same post tell someone to STFU? The irony is rich in this one.
My Viewpoint,
D3 is not an RPG in the old school term. It is no mroe an RPG than Call of Duty. But it is nothing at all like Brad's Tale(PC), Balder's Gate(PC), Might and Magic, etc. -- games which define the term RPG.
D3 is an action/aracde style loot poper/gear grind with loose RPG elements.
This is an interesting piece on the history of RPGs and how far they've come. There's also some discussion about applying the term RPG to video games so I think it could shed some light on this subject.
http://insomnia.ac/commentary/on_role-playing_games/
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