Of course the low rating for SWTOR on metacritic is deserved, but the low rating for D3 is inconsequential....
Pardon me while I fucking laugh out loud at all the hypocrits.
Yea, I actually went and tried to find a game that I thought the ratings were way off on. I couldn't find one.
Morrowind - 9.6
Skyrim - 8.1
Minecraft - 6.8
Asheron's Call - 9.6
WoW - 6.9
SWTOR - 5.7
I just randomly pulled up these games, and besides AC being rated a bit too high I don't disagree with any of these. I generally agree with aggregate metacritic scores 100% of the time. Obviously, that community likes games with some sort of depth, and they do not like games that are similar to other games. If someone's taste don't run that way I wouldn't expect them to use metacritic. They can use the paid for reviews from gamespot and others that rate crap/mediocre games outrageously high.
Undoubtedly, the rating for D3 will go up, but its still being percieved by a boatload of people as not good enough. I'm gonna trust that, and not buy it for a few years - if ever.
Asherons Call is rated that high because its the best game on that list.
Of course the low rating for SWTOR on metacritic is deserved, but the low rating for D3 is inconsequential....
Pardon me while I fucking laugh out loud at all the hypocrits.
Yea, I actually went and tried to find a game that I thought the ratings were way off on. I couldn't find one.
Morrowind - 9.6
Skyrim - 8.1
Minecraft - 6.8
Asheron's Call - 9.6
WoW - 6.9
SWTOR - 5.7
I just randomly pulled up these games, and besides AC being rated a bit too high I don't disagree with any of these. I generally agree with aggregate metacritic scores 100% of the time. Obviously, that community likes games with some sort of depth, and they do not like games that are similar to other games. If someone's taste don't run that way I wouldn't expect them to use metacritic. They can use the paid for reviews from gamespot and others that rate crap/mediocre games outrageously high.
Undoubtedly, the rating for D3 will go up, but its still being percieved by a boatload of people as not good enough. I'm gonna trust that, and not buy it for a few years - if ever.
Asherons Call is rated that high because its the best game on that list.
Metacritic is useless. It's been gamed so many times in so many ways it's even worse than the hype ratings here.
I think this review is hardly "useless" as you so state. Let's actually do some leg work and, oh I don't know READ what the people are complaining about SHALL WE?
Page one, very first review
- Charater customization was so confusing, so they removed it (no more skill points to distribute, no more attribute points to distribute, skills unlock automatically as you level up)
It is hard to argue with many of the points this person made. Care to revise your statement there zym? Or are you too busy stuffing your mouth with Blizz Diablow three turds to read?
Why would I care what they have to say? Do you base your purchase decisions on what random anonymous internet people say? I looked at the game. I didn't buy it. None of those is the reason I didn't buy it.
About 3/4ths of those reasons are why I did not purchase Diablo 3.
Quite simply, not a good product and a shameful one at that to the Diablo franchise.
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity: Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
Any rating system based on anoymous user reviews is doomed to fail. What's to stop a competitor from creating a thousand fake accounts and rating a game 0 a thousand times.
Now that said, the ability to actually play the game should be considered part of the review process. If there is frequent downtime, server issues, whatever, then the game deserves to be downgraded because of that. I personally haven't had any issues though, but I play in Australian times so off-peak compared to when most players around the world will be on.
I don't really give 2 shits what any of you haters say, I've been playing the shit out of it with a couple of friends and this is the BEST multiplayer experience I have played in a long time. Sure it had it's hiccups on release day but what game doesn't? We are in act 3 right now and it just keeps getting better and better. Not sure who the hell said they beat it in 8-12 hours, I've already invested 12 and I am no noob when it comes to Diablo. First time through I watch all cutscenes and listen to the dialogue. After that I'll skip it, but the story is so good and the action is fierce, combat is brutal and the loot is just gravy. 10/10
oh man, i have to ask all my friends to buy this game.
I trust metacritic as ONE source out of many that I collect for an "overall" view to confirm my own opinions. Pretty much, metacritic == spot on in this particular case.
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity: Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
Oh that ... haha, yeah I've been a part of that flame horde as well... There was a thread on the official forums when the servers were "busy" (read overcrowded and you couldn't login properly and it was giving all sorts of errors at the login) which gave a link to metacritic user review and we just gave like 1s and 0s since they didn't gave us any proper "Blue" response on the official forums on some kind of ETA.
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Too bad no one looks at user reviews and is going to buy the game anyways. Blizzard makes good games so they get good press reviews, they are also highly popular so they will naturally recieve alot of hate so when the opportunity arises for people to troll an entire community of loyal fans (metacritc scores) it will be done. The game will still sell millions of copies, come out with an expansion or two, and make Blizzard lots of money...guess people just like spending money on Blizzard games. I wonder why....
You know everyone got on there and down voted it because of the login issues I mean come on...
Hmm, nope... there are reviews such as this there:
It is with great regret that I have to say this, but Diablo III epitomizes everything that is wrong with the current generation of gamers - gamers, who never had to learn things the hard way or actually work for their characters. Instead, they click re-roll/re-spec whenever things go wrong. Obviously the emphasis has been to please the masses - make a game that sells, regardless of how proud you are of it. At some point of the design process Blizzard became a game studio that saw things as they were and asked why, instead of being the studio that dreamed of things that never were and asked why not.
After seing WoW becoming a game for kids that just wanted action and had no attachment to their characters nor any interest in in-depth character customisation, I just knew this would be how Diablo would be. Blizzard is spitting on a genre by calling this an RPG, really.
Its fair enough that a lot of people can enjoy this, but during these years a huge group of RPG-gamers are being ignored because its easier to make money from kids than adults. Almost every game being developed by companies with decent budgets are overly simplified and lacking depth. It is all about being fast on your fingers and being easy to impress with visual effects and other shiny stuff.
I fully accept that this is entertaining for some people - though I fail to understand how it can be, but I think its utterly annoying that every bloody game with a decent budget is aimed at these peope. Even games in series that used to be above decent - Like Diablo.
Damn, I am glad I didnt support Blizzard by buying this game. First they ruin the MMORPG-genre by reducing WoW to a nobrain-actiongame (which is copied by all other semi-large companies) and now the Action-RPG genre is reduced to simple action aswell. They deserve nothing but being mocked.
This is so well put:
These fanbois are so engrossed with their preconcieved notions of this crap that they blindly and ignorantly defend it while shoveling shit down their throats. Literally.
I understand: you waited YEARS to get to play it, and by golly, no one is gonna stop you now!
There's like 900, 0 point reviews due to people not being able to log-in on the first day.
Gotta say this is totally unreliable for D3.
The game is great 8)
So you say the ability to use your purchase should not be part of the rating for it?
I for one believe that usability of a product should be one of the big points in the rating what good does it do to buy a fancy looking product i cant use?
We all were taught a lesson from Blizzard this time.
We already knew that Launch days for MMORPGs are messy (even tho lately even that seems to become less and less an issue)and we will have to fight with many probs but now we know that not only MMORPG launches are terrible but Blizzard launches in general are also just terrible.
So we should all remember that next time Blizzard releases a game and just wait a bit before buying it so that Blizzard gets enough time to make there product work.
I just hope that it does not become the new standard now to NOT be able to use your products on release day tho
A well made pizza is not crap just because it's not by your taste.
Game does not try to revolutionarize anything. But it still is amazing fun to play, really addictive and all in all very well done for what it is.
And about Metacritic I only have one word. Who?
it is crap when you order a pizza, then when it gets there you cant eat it, and whjen you can eat it, you have to go to the pizzaria every time you want to take a bite.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling" Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
If you were born around 1970-1986 you probably played Diablo I & Diablo II, you are getting close to 10/10 experience, lets say 9.5/10
If you were born around 1987-2000 you probably havent played Diablo I, most likely Diablo II, unless you were long time into games and appreciate old games (Fallout 2 blows Fallout 3 out of the water if you didn't know) you probably get initial 6-8/10 raiting experience.
If you don't appreciate this genre, you are getting 2/10.
Server issue is temporary issue thx god.. but I agree its a big fockup from Blizzard...well shit happends
Too bad no one looks at user reviews and is going to buy the game anyways. Blizzard makes good games so they get good press reviews, they are also highly popular so they will naturally recieve alot of hate so when the opportunity arises for people to troll an entire community of loyal fans (metacritc scores) it will be done. The game will still sell millions of copies, come out with an expansion or two, and make Blizzard lots of money...guess people just like spending money on Blizzard games. I wonder why....
Because they see the name blizzard attached to it, they would buy any crap from them, fact, dosnt have to be good, and apparently doesnt even have to work.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling" Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
It will sell millions and millions, and millions and millions will love it.
Even if it got 0.0/10 on metacritic.
Just sayin.
unlikely, doubtful and probably not.
Metacritic scores arent the be all and end all, but it can't be ignored because it doesnt conform to your own preferences, especially when you take into account the metacritic scores that games normally have at this stage, i think its pretty clear that there are issues with the game, and its not looking good, after all, its a single player game that you can't play offline, and if theres a problem with the server - which there has been, no amount of apologising by Blizzard is going to improve things, and thats before you even get to the whole cash driven auction house thing.. which is more than enough on its own to red flag the whole game.
so while i don't expect the game to ever get a 0.0 metacritic score.. it has definitely earned the low score it has, and i definitely don't see it selling millions, nor do i think millions will love it.. this isnt a game that will be fixed with a few patches.
It will sell millions and millions, and millions and millions will love it.
Even if it got 0.0/10 on metacritic.
Just sayin.
unlikely, doubtful and probably not.
Metacritic scores arent the be all and end all, but it can't be ignored because it doesnt conform to your own preferences, especially when you take into account the metacritic scores that games normally have at this stage, i think its pretty clear that there are issues with the game, and its not looking good, after all, its a single player game that you can't play offline, and if theres a problem with the server - which there has been, no amount of apologising by Blizzard is going to improve things, and thats before you even get to the whole cash driven auction house thing.. which is more than enough on its own to red flag the whole game.
so while i don't expect the game to ever get a 0.0 metacritic score.. it has definitely earned the low score it has, and i definitely don't see it selling millions, nor do i think millions will love it.. this isnt a game that will be fixed with a few patches.
you are a pants-on-your head lunatic if you think they haven't already sold millions of copies.
Metacritic scores arent the be all and end all, but it can't be ignored because it doesnt conform to your own preferences, especially when you take into account the metacritic scores that games normally have at this stage, i think its pretty clear that there are issues with the game, and its not looking good, after all, its a single player game that you can't play offline, and if theres a problem with the server - which there has been, no amount of apologising by Blizzard is going to improve things, and thats before you even get to the whole cash driven auction house thing.. which is more than enough on its own to red flag the whole game.
so while i don't expect the game to ever get a 0.0 metacritic score.. it has definitely earned the low score it has, and i definitely don't see it selling millions, nor do i think millions will love it.. this isnt a game that will be fixed with a few patches.
I think you are wrong. now, I havn't played the game myself since I boycot it due to the RMTAH but Diablo 3 can suck donkeyb@lls and still sell millions. What that would affect is the sale of expansions and Diablo 4, not Diablo3. Blizzard have many millions of fans that buy anything with their name on, Blizzard needs to dissapoint those fans for them to stop buying their games.
Reviews don't really matter for a fan of a company, only bad experience does which will turn you away from being a fan.
As I said, I am not saying D3 is so bad, or even bad at all. Don't know, don't care.
If you were born around 1970-1986 you probably played Diablo I & Diablo II, you are getting close to 10/10 experience, lets say 9.5/10
If you were born around 1987-2000 you probably havent played Diablo I, most likely Diablo II, unless you were long time into games and appreciate old games (Fallout 2 blows Fallout 3 out of the water if you didn't know) you probably get initial 6-8/10 raiting experience.
If you don't appreciate this genre, you are getting 2/10.
Server issue is temporary issue thx god.. but I agree its a big fockup from Blizzard...well shit happends
1976, played D1 and D2 (as well as TQ and some others) and love the arpg genre, just not this game. I was really hoping on more depth and choice to typical hack and slash gameplay, but to me it seems it's only more simplified.
It's a rating system. People will abuse it. Just like with Bioware games or other it's-cool-to-hate. Diablo 3 is obviously not a 3.6 game. Anyone who has tried an actual horrible game knows this. There are PC games being released that are extremely poor and almost unplayable. Big Riggs woop woop!
And the bad user reviews cannot come in fast enough. I was fortunate enough to beta test the game before launch and was left completly unimpressed. I am noticing the reviews are reflecting what my beta input stated. I wrote incredibly detailed lenghty messages on the beta test forums but let's be honest, it is far easier for Blizz to just stand up on the table, unbuckle their belt, pull down their pants and drop a gigantic steaming pile of shit onto your plate.
The vast majority of Diablo fans from the 90's and early 00's are online playing, enjoying their game. Meta-critics scores are the result of peoples inability to display any amount of patience on launch day. I was reading comments on the Diablo 3 Facebook page from grown men and women QQ'ing like they just crawled out of the cradle. Quite frankly, it's embarassing. You all need to grow up. Enjoy the game, and if you don't like it, then fine - but keep your hyperbolic negativity to yourselves.
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Asherons Call is rated that high because its the best game on that list.
2nd best.
About 3/4ths of those reasons are why I did not purchase Diablo 3.
Quite simply, not a good product and a shameful one at that to the Diablo franchise.
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
Any rating system based on anoymous user reviews is doomed to fail. What's to stop a competitor from creating a thousand fake accounts and rating a game 0 a thousand times.
Now that said, the ability to actually play the game should be considered part of the review process. If there is frequent downtime, server issues, whatever, then the game deserves to be downgraded because of that. I personally haven't had any issues though, but I play in Australian times so off-peak compared to when most players around the world will be on.
The Enlightened take things Lightly
oh man, i have to ask all my friends to buy this game.
Which FF Character Are You?
If Metacritic is useless these days, then to be honest any site that relies on user opinion to generate content also is...
Like this one. And this thread.
I guess the key message to take from this is that every opion you read from someone you don't know on the internet is worhless.
OH REALLY?
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/mass-effect-3
and
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/dragon-age-ii
compared to
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/diablo-ii
I trust metacritic as ONE source out of many that I collect for an "overall" view to confirm my own opinions. Pretty much, metacritic == spot on in this particular case.
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
Lol @ people thinking these are not real ratings of the game and blame it on the server issues.
I still think it's funny people don't look @ the site's "official" review score and scoff. Seriously, 9.0? Bought off lump sniffers I say !
The Theory of Conservative Conservation of Ignorant Stupidity:
Having a different opinion must mean you're a troll.
Oh that ... haha, yeah I've been a part of that flame horde as well... There was a thread on the official forums when the servers were "busy" (read overcrowded and you couldn't login properly and it was giving all sorts of errors at the login) which gave a link to metacritic user review and we just gave like 1s and 0s since they didn't gave us any proper "Blue" response on the official forums on some kind of ETA.
"Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life."
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Too bad no one looks at user reviews and is going to buy the game anyways. Blizzard makes good games so they get good press reviews, they are also highly popular so they will naturally recieve alot of hate so when the opportunity arises for people to troll an entire community of loyal fans (metacritc scores) it will be done. The game will still sell millions of copies, come out with an expansion or two, and make Blizzard lots of money...guess people just like spending money on Blizzard games. I wonder why....
Yep.
Guys take it easy we all know it sucks.
but i dont get it why are all the ppl who bought the game so mad?
they just have to come here and tell us how good it really is and that others are just talking BS.
If u want good online game that is like D3 but better just w8 of POE.
IT SUCKS TAKE IT LIKE A MAN
Yes i have played D3 only thing i like about it is lore.
Hmm, nope... there are reviews such as this there:
I fully accept that this is entertaining for some people - though I fail to understand how it can be, but I think its utterly annoying that every bloody game with a decent budget is aimed at these peope. Even games in series that used to be above decent - Like Diablo.
Damn, I am glad I didnt support Blizzard by buying this game. First they ruin the MMORPG-genre by reducing WoW to a nobrain-actiongame (which is copied by all other semi-large companies) and now the Action-RPG genre is reduced to simple action aswell. They deserve nothing but being mocked.
This is so well put:
These fanbois are so engrossed with their preconcieved notions of this crap that they blindly and ignorantly defend it while shoveling shit down their throats. Literally.
I understand: you waited YEARS to get to play it, and by golly, no one is gonna stop you now!
So you say the ability to use your purchase should not be part of the rating for it?
I for one believe that usability of a product should be one of the big points in the rating what good does it do to buy a fancy looking product i cant use?
We all were taught a lesson from Blizzard this time.
We already knew that Launch days for MMORPGs are messy (even tho lately even that seems to become less and less an issue)and we will have to fight with many probs but now we know that not only MMORPG launches are terrible but Blizzard launches in general are also just terrible.
So we should all remember that next time Blizzard releases a game and just wait a bit before buying it so that Blizzard gets enough time to make there product work.
I just hope that it does not become the new standard now to NOT be able to use your products on release day tho
A well made pizza is not crap just because it's not by your taste.
Game does not try to revolutionarize anything. But it still is amazing fun to play, really addictive and all in all very well done for what it is.
And about Metacritic I only have one word. Who?
It will sell millions and millions, and millions and millions will love it.
Even if it got 0.0/10 on metacritic.
Just sayin.
it is crap when you order a pizza, then when it gets there you cant eat it, and whjen you can eat it, you have to go to the pizzaria every time you want to take a bite.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
My review:
If you were born around 1970-1986 you probably played Diablo I & Diablo II, you are getting close to 10/10 experience, lets say 9.5/10
If you were born around 1987-2000 you probably havent played Diablo I, most likely Diablo II, unless you were long time into games and appreciate old games (Fallout 2 blows Fallout 3 out of the water if you didn't know) you probably get initial 6-8/10 raiting experience.
If you don't appreciate this genre, you are getting 2/10.
Server issue is temporary issue thx god.. but I agree its a big fockup from Blizzard...well shit happends
Because they see the name blizzard attached to it, they would buy any crap from them, fact, dosnt have to be good, and apparently doesnt even have to work.
Apparently stating the truth in my sig is "trolling"
Sig typo fixed thanks to an observant stragen001.
unlikely, doubtful and probably not.
Metacritic scores arent the be all and end all, but it can't be ignored because it doesnt conform to your own preferences, especially when you take into account the metacritic scores that games normally have at this stage, i think its pretty clear that there are issues with the game, and its not looking good, after all, its a single player game that you can't play offline, and if theres a problem with the server - which there has been, no amount of apologising by Blizzard is going to improve things, and thats before you even get to the whole cash driven auction house thing.. which is more than enough on its own to red flag the whole game.
so while i don't expect the game to ever get a 0.0 metacritic score.. it has definitely earned the low score it has, and i definitely don't see it selling millions, nor do i think millions will love it.. this isnt a game that will be fixed with a few patches.
you are a pants-on-your head lunatic if you think they haven't already sold millions of copies.
I think you are wrong. now, I havn't played the game myself since I boycot it due to the RMTAH but Diablo 3 can suck donkeyb@lls and still sell millions. What that would affect is the sale of expansions and Diablo 4, not Diablo3. Blizzard have many millions of fans that buy anything with their name on, Blizzard needs to dissapoint those fans for them to stop buying their games.
Reviews don't really matter for a fan of a company, only bad experience does which will turn you away from being a fan.
As I said, I am not saying D3 is so bad, or even bad at all. Don't know, don't care.
1976, played D1 and D2 (as well as TQ and some others) and love the arpg genre, just not this game. I was really hoping on more depth and choice to typical hack and slash gameplay, but to me it seems it's only more simplified.
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How is this proof of anything?
It's a rating system. People will abuse it. Just like with Bioware games or other it's-cool-to-hate. Diablo 3 is obviously not a 3.6 game. Anyone who has tried an actual horrible game knows this. There are PC games being released that are extremely poor and almost unplayable. Big Riggs woop woop!
The vast majority of Diablo fans from the 90's and early 00's are online playing, enjoying their game. Meta-critics scores are the result of peoples inability to display any amount of patience on launch day. I was reading comments on the Diablo 3 Facebook page from grown men and women QQ'ing like they just crawled out of the cradle. Quite frankly, it's embarassing. You all need to grow up. Enjoy the game, and if you don't like it, then fine - but keep your hyperbolic negativity to yourselves.