I agree this isn't a review, but TB's rant is legitimate and true. The faults he cites are glaring faults that even a lot of blinded fanbois are starting to see. It's sad - I used to be a diehard Blizzard fanboi, but this latest fiasco, coupled to how Bliz has pretty much ruined WoW over the long haul, has turned me into a hater.
I make spreadsheets at work - I don't want to make them for the games I play.
who is total biscuit and why should i care..i play what i want no matter what anyone says...if i like it i will play it ..if i dont ..i wont..no silly youtuber review guy will make me change my mind untill i try it myself
1) He seems to think the scene can hack the game to be playable offline. That's an absolute joke. The best they can do is make it easier to connect to a server emulation once they are written. I don't think he even grasps server/client relationships.
2) He seems to only care about the game as a single player game. As such, he doesn't care about item hacking or bnet cheating. He completely minimizes the benefit of storing all characters on their servers and running most of the code on their servers. That doesn't mean that
3) He only sees the evils of the RMAH and completely ignores the gold AH. Ever tried trading items in D2. the options were to create a game name with the trade you wanted, but if it wasn't elite good luck. The other popular method was D2JSP, where one person profited financially and trades were not secure. You might get a refund from d2jsp if you got scammed, but that's a major hassle.
4) He's not even a fan of the genre and thus he clearly wasn't a serious online D2 player and doesn't understand the appeal. Which is why he sees TL2, with an open BNET type of system, and POE which also is online only,as comparable.
If you want a simple single player hack&slash and aren't that interested in the genre, like Total Biscuit, then definitely buy Torchlight 2 for $20. But don't take his review as being a well informed critique of the genre or the game.
I didn't watch the video because i don't like Total Biscuit.
However, the points you bring up are actually true about Diablo 3.
The RMAH is a money-grab for Blizzard. Nothing more, nothing less. The gold-farming markets have already began undercutting the RMAH....funny that huh?
Not to mention the DRM simply should not exist. Who cares about "Open B-Net"? NO ONE who actually bought the game cared about Open-Bnet. Pretty much anyone who cared about Diablo 2 played on Closed Bnet to stay away from hackers (which, by the by, already exist in Diablo 3 in the form of maphacks). So trying to create false information claiming that DRM is a "good thing" is actually a bad deal.
Lastly, Diablo 3 isn't a true successor to Diablo 2. Diablo 3 is beyond dumbed down to the point it cannot even be called a sequel in the franchise. Not to mention the art-style is horridly different than D2 or D1.
So if he mentioned any of that in the video then that'll be the first time i've ever heard Total Biscuit say anything decent. Just saying....
Oh, and TorchLight looks like crap. I'm sorry, but the art-style they went with screams attention from the 12yr old audience whom like Wizard101. So TorchLight isn't even in the same category as the Diablo franchise USED to be.
Not to mention that POE is billed as an "Action RPG MMO", and not actually a single-player ARPG like Diablo 1 or 2 were able to be. So not really a fair comparison either, though I do see where you were coming from.
I only want to point out one thing. How can they be undercutting the RMAH when it isn't even out yet? It isn't available until at least May 22, so there isn't anything to undercut.
Dont listen to him anymore. He walks a fine like between being an asshole and being entertaining. Too often he's the asshole.
Asshole because he dares criticise a game? Why? Give me one good reason for online only drm, just one. There is no justification for it, and the amount of people defending it doesn't make sense. That is the main issue. He is not saying it's a bad game, so why would you call him an asshole? Are people not allowed to come with constructive criticism? It's at least a lot better than your criticism, which has no valid points, and doesn't explain anything.
His review/rant was a 100% correct, launch was terrible, online play only is terrible, the amount of gameplay for the money is terrible.
So glad i didn't have to purchase this.
any online type of game has some type of problem on release..if you dont belive that than idk what to tell you
and as far as online play ..we played with a party of 4 last night and had a blast..sure i agree on the price..but then again 80% of new games are priced at 60$ upon release..
you have played it right?
most people didnt even know what to rly expect seeing alot of the younger crowd would be comeing from wow and had never even played D1 / D2 and were prolly expecting an mmo
1) He seems to think the scene can hack the game to be playable offline. That's an absolute joke. The best they can do is make it easier to connect to a server emulation once they are written. I don't think he even grasps server/client relationships.
2) He seems to only care about the game as a single player game. As such, he doesn't care about item hacking or bnet cheating. He completely minimizes the benefit of storing all characters on their servers and running most of the code on their servers. That doesn't mean that
3) He only sees the evils of the RMAH and completely ignores the gold AH. Ever tried trading items in D2. the options were to create a game name with the trade you wanted, but if it wasn't elite good luck. The other popular method was D2JSP, where one person profited financially and trades were not secure. You might get a refund from d2jsp if you got scammed, but that's a major hassle.
4) He's not even a fan of the genre and thus he clearly wasn't a serious online D2 player and doesn't understand the appeal. Which is why he sees TL2, with an open BNET type of system, and POE which also is online only,as comparable.
If you want a simple single player hack&slash and aren't that interested in the genre, like Total Biscuit, then definitely buy Torchlight 2 for $20. But don't take his review as being a well informed critique of the genre or the game.
1.) BULLSHIT! The Battle.Net is not some kind of black magic nobody can crack. If the encryption is known (which isn't that unlikely now because people actually have got a reason to crack it) everything is open like a prostitute in Amsterdam.
2.) I agree with that. It has a lot of benefits he could've mentioned but why can't I create an offline character? I can live with downtimes on my favourite character but I want to play a seperate character while I wait. I could also play in a LAN with my friends.
3.) He hasn't talked about the use of the RMAH. He has taken it as a reason why Blizzard is doing this shit with us. He talked about the shit that has happend in the first 2 days and his first impression and he explained why, what happend.
4.) So other games can't compete because they haven't been developed for 12 years?
This wasn't even a proper review. That was an episode of his mailbox show. If you want a proper review, you should wait for angryjoe.
Its very true that the way they are dealing with piracy, is essentially wrong. I agree completely with him on that. Still, the game itself is incredibly fun for me and will probably play it for a long time. Unfortunately he went on a rant about the "always online" part of things.
I haven't played TL2 yet and definately want to try it out, especially now that he compares it a bit to it. It does seem that some of his gripes with D3 are stuff that were there from D2. I don't know if he played D2, but its a very specific formula that isn't overly complicated and just works.
He obviously does not like the genre. So, I don't expect he will like D3 or D2 for that matter. It seems like TL2 is more of an intant reward game and that's why he prefered it. D3 is essentially what D2 was, a dungeon crawler-loot grabber. Which is what I want
His review/rant was a 100% correct, launch was terrible, online play only is terrible, the amount of gameplay for the money is terrible.
So glad i didn't have to purchase this.
His rant about the launch was fine, but then he talked about what he had played (up to level 10), he clearly didin't understand the rune system and he also talked about lack of variaty, he's no more than 2 hours into the game, what does he expect?
I feel he came to the game already with bias and a hardon for TL2 which tainted is otherwise neutral stance, I'll still watch his vid but he has not given D3 a real chance.
I've never rated TB much anyway. He's popular because he's a bit of a wierdo and that's entertaining, that's all. He's just an average gamer that can be bothered to put out tons of videos for some reason. His video capture is good and his voiceover is entertaining but it often isn't informative or factual. Plus, he's almost always biased in one way or another.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
His review/rant was a 100% correct, launch was terrible, online play only is terrible, the amount of gameplay for the money is terrible.
So glad i didn't have to purchase this.
any online type of game has some type of problem on release..if you dont belive that than idk what to tell you
Pretty sure most are well aware of this. I mean that is one of the reasons people are irritated about the single player version being online only. So...yeah...
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
I don't know much about TB but on this he is 100% spot-on.
The pirates will have this cracked and playing off pseudo servers in hours...if it isn't already happening. The only ones inconvenienced are we, the legitimate players who bought it.
And PS... the Diablo series always was a single player game first. The online play has always been secondary. If you don't know that you didn't play it in 1996. Optional on-line with different single-player and on-line toons: there was no valid reason to go away from that model...just a lot of half-baked rationalizations.
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after that video i had to unsubscribe caus ehe is obviously raging and talking out of his ass most fo the time and comparing it with torchlight and its LIMMITED skill system doesnt really help.
he really is just too biased and doesn tknow it better.
he talks about cracking d3..lmao..its done since beta dude..called emulator but its bugged as shit..parts of the game dotn even work.
also torchlight 2..im not impressed. nothign about the game impresses me.
back to playin my 26 DH in Act 3. this game rocks .
in few months you will not even need to buy D3 because will exist a private server. show me a game that cant be hacked, i never saw one...
Show me a private server that works anything like the official one for any game... I've never seen one. Most are awful in fact.
If this was true then every online game (MMOs too) would have been replaced by private servers a long time ago.
Ragnarok online.
I'll take your word for it, but thats like one game out of thousands. The post I quoted stated it can be done for every game.
What he is missing that those servers are either stolen/leaked (older versions of game, not necessarily a drawback), or if they are made from scratch, it took years to make them anything close to the respective game (L2j for example).
Given blizz codes bigtime nowadays, and the quality of leaked wow servers is given, i would not fear them much, or their impact.
in few months you will not even need to buy D3 because will exist a private server. show me a game that cant be hacked, i never saw one...
Show me a private server that works anything like the official one for any game... I've never seen one. Most are awful in fact.
If this was true then every online game (MMOs too) would have been replaced by private servers a long time ago.
Ragnarok online.
I'll take your word for it, but thats like one game out of thousands. The post I quoted stated it can be done for every game.
Actually about that you are right, all hacking is losing good programmers. Even emulation has been halted Translations stopped on rpgs near the end of 2007. They have been building a pre-cu server for swg that will never see the light of sun with jump to lightspeed. For the last 3 years since psu came out they still have not built a working server that lvls, item drop ect.
The world of hacking is comming to an end. There are less then 20 emulators for games and more then 500 mmos. I think the last succesfull online hack was dead island, and alot of ips got banned for it. Last server side client that was made thou like d3 would need is psu and it doesnt supply lvls.
Ragnarok Online thou, the developer on lead was fired and made Eathena which is why its not illegal to play on his emulator with his supplied client. It is illegal to play in a english one thou.
in few months you will not even need to buy D3 because will exist a private server. show me a game that cant be hacked, i never saw one...
Show me a private server that works anything like the official one for any game... I've never seen one. Most are awful in fact.
If this was true then every online game (MMOs too) would have been replaced by private servers a long time ago.
i didnt say it work perfectly. is the "price" you "pay" for not pay anything for a game. i just say that all game can be hacked, no game is impossible to hack
can you even be misinformed when your opinion is gathered from experience? how would that even work? you misinform yourself about what you're doing, and what you like or dislike? sounds like someone's a little grumpy, imo.
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Guys... I'm going to post parts of this in caps because it is important that you know this.
TB is NOT doing REVIEWS. He have stated several times that he HATES reviews because of developer/producer bias, score/meta critic and so forth.
His 'WTF is' videos are NOT review videos, they are FIRST IMPRESSION videos. That is a HUGE difference.
Stop saying TB have reviewed game X, because he have stated time and time again that he do NOT review games. Not even OP got that straight.
I agree this isn't a review, but TB's rant is legitimate and true. The faults he cites are glaring faults that even a lot of blinded fanbois are starting to see. It's sad - I used to be a diehard Blizzard fanboi, but this latest fiasco, coupled to how Bliz has pretty much ruined WoW over the long haul, has turned me into a hater.
I make spreadsheets at work - I don't want to make them for the games I play.
who is total biscuit and why should i care..i play what i want no matter what anyone says...if i like it i will play it ..if i dont ..i wont..no silly youtuber review guy will make me change my mind untill i try it myself
His review/rant was a 100% correct, launch was terrible, online play only is terrible, the amount of gameplay for the money is terrible.
So glad i didn't have to purchase this.
I only want to point out one thing. How can they be undercutting the RMAH when it isn't even out yet? It isn't available until at least May 22, so there isn't anything to undercut.
Asshole because he dares criticise a game? Why? Give me one good reason for online only drm, just one. There is no justification for it, and the amount of people defending it doesn't make sense. That is the main issue. He is not saying it's a bad game, so why would you call him an asshole? Are people not allowed to come with constructive criticism? It's at least a lot better than your criticism, which has no valid points, and doesn't explain anything.
any online type of game has some type of problem on release..if you dont belive that than idk what to tell you
and as far as online play ..we played with a party of 4 last night and had a blast..sure i agree on the price..but then again 80% of new games are priced at 60$ upon release..
most people didnt even know what to rly expect seeing alot of the younger crowd would be comeing from wow and had never even played D1 / D2 and were prolly expecting an mmo
1.) BULLSHIT! The Battle.Net is not some kind of black magic nobody can crack. If the encryption is known (which isn't that unlikely now because people actually have got a reason to crack it) everything is open like a prostitute in Amsterdam.
2.) I agree with that. It has a lot of benefits he could've mentioned but why can't I create an offline character? I can live with downtimes on my favourite character but I want to play a seperate character while I wait. I could also play in a LAN with my friends.
3.) He hasn't talked about the use of the RMAH. He has taken it as a reason why Blizzard is doing this shit with us. He talked about the shit that has happend in the first 2 days and his first impression and he explained why, what happend.
4.) So other games can't compete because they haven't been developed for 12 years?
This wasn't even a proper review. That was an episode of his mailbox show. If you want a proper review, you should wait for angryjoe.
Its very true that the way they are dealing with piracy, is essentially wrong. I agree completely with him on that. Still, the game itself is incredibly fun for me and will probably play it for a long time. Unfortunately he went on a rant about the "always online" part of things.
I haven't played TL2 yet and definately want to try it out, especially now that he compares it a bit to it. It does seem that some of his gripes with D3 are stuff that were there from D2. I don't know if he played D2, but its a very specific formula that isn't overly complicated and just works.
He obviously does not like the genre. So, I don't expect he will like D3 or D2 for that matter. It seems like TL2 is more of an intant reward game and that's why he prefered it. D3 is essentially what D2 was, a dungeon crawler-loot grabber. Which is what I want
His rant about the launch was fine, but then he talked about what he had played (up to level 10), he clearly didin't understand the rune system and he also talked about lack of variaty, he's no more than 2 hours into the game, what does he expect?
I feel he came to the game already with bias and a hardon for TL2 which tainted is otherwise neutral stance, I'll still watch his vid but he has not given D3 a real chance.
hackers are laugh hard on OP point 1...
in few months you will not even need to buy D3 because will exist a private server. show me a game that cant be hacked, i never saw one...
I've never rated TB much anyway. He's popular because he's a bit of a wierdo and that's entertaining, that's all. He's just an average gamer that can be bothered to put out tons of videos for some reason. His video capture is good and his voiceover is entertaining but it often isn't informative or factual. Plus, he's almost always biased in one way or another.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Show me a private server that works anything like the official one for any game... I've never seen one. Most are awful in fact.
If this was true then every online game (MMOs too) would have been replaced by private servers a long time ago.
Ragnarok online.
I don't know much about TB but on this he is 100% spot-on.
The pirates will have this cracked and playing off pseudo servers in hours...if it isn't already happening. The only ones inconvenienced are we, the legitimate players who bought it.
And PS... the Diablo series always was a single player game first. The online play has always been secondary. If you don't know that you didn't play it in 1996. Optional on-line with different single-player and on-line toons: there was no valid reason to go away from that model...just a lot of half-baked rationalizations.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
I'll take your word for it, but thats like one game out of thousands. The post I quoted stated it can be done for every game.
after that video i had to unsubscribe caus ehe is obviously raging and talking out of his ass most fo the time and comparing it with torchlight and its LIMMITED skill system doesnt really help.
he really is just too biased and doesn tknow it better.
he talks about cracking d3..lmao..its done since beta dude..called emulator but its bugged as shit..parts of the game dotn even work.
also torchlight 2..im not impressed. nothign about the game impresses me.
back to playin my 26 DH in Act 3. this game rocks .
talking out your ass, because if this was the case you'd not be impressed by DIII either
What he is missing that those servers are either stolen/leaked (older versions of game, not necessarily a drawback), or if they are made from scratch, it took years to make them anything close to the respective game (L2j for example).
Given blizz codes bigtime nowadays, and the quality of leaked wow servers is given, i would not fear them much, or their impact.
Flame on!
Actually about that you are right, all hacking is losing good programmers. Even emulation has been halted Translations stopped on rpgs near the end of 2007. They have been building a pre-cu server for swg that will never see the light of sun with jump to lightspeed. For the last 3 years since psu came out they still have not built a working server that lvls, item drop ect.
The world of hacking is comming to an end. There are less then 20 emulators for games and more then 500 mmos. I think the last succesfull online hack was dead island, and alot of ips got banned for it. Last server side client that was made thou like d3 would need is psu and it doesnt supply lvls.
Ragnarok Online thou, the developer on lead was fired and made Eathena which is why its not illegal to play on his emulator with his supplied client. It is illegal to play in a english one thou.
i didnt say it work perfectly. is the "price" you "pay" for not pay anything for a game. i just say that all game can be hacked, no game is impossible to hack
Same. Guess he must have hit it pretty close to the mark to get the fanbois and apologists so riled up.
I agreed with TB too, the sad thing is people cannot grasp that it is his OPINION! Don't take it as gospel.
can you even be misinformed when your opinion is gathered from experience? how would that even work? you misinform yourself about what you're doing, and what you like or dislike? sounds like someone's a little grumpy, imo.