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Stuff Guild Wars, go Darkfall!!
juice_pops
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I just read darkfalls thing on the games list and it's heaps cool, I wanna get it soooo bad now.
Well, how many other people want it?
Blorg
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I just wish a company with a big budget behind them would make a game like darkfall.
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MMOs Retired From: Earth and Beyond, Project Entropia, There, A Tale in the Desert, Star Wars Galaxies, World of Warcraft, Eve Online, City of Heroes/Villains.
MMOs Currently (worth) Playing: None.
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I've been waiting for Darkfall for over two years and release seems no closer. When I first looked at it thay were aiming for a mid 2004 release but they've not started beta yet. Hopefully Roma Victor will be out on time, that looks good too.
And how does this have anything to do with you wanting us to "Stuff Guild Wars"?
If you really wanted to support the game you should have named the topic just "Go Darkfall"
Now you just look like every other GW basher.
Darkfall does look like a good game, but it is still rather deep in development, so I wouldn't be telling people to "Stuff Guild Wars" just yet.
A few days ago i had a post saying i might get GW, but now i'm just gonna save my money.
I am also no "GW basher" , in fact I actually like the look of that game.
Blorg
"Status: Development (est. release unknown)"
By the time Darkfall goes retail you will have saved enough to have bought 10 copies of Guild Wars, that's assuming it ever does reach retail. It have been in Development a long time
read this http://www.vanguardsoh.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1044304#post1044304 then come back and talk to me about the vanguard/soe fiasco.....
im a heavy pvper... I like guild wars and am sticking with that
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Since GuildWars is actually released and available to play I would say it has a huge advantage over Darkfall at this current time.
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So GW has a good PVP, what is it like? What weapons, spells, do you loot people you kill etc etc.
Blorg
In my opinion, Darkfall is definitley vapourware! Believe me when I tell you its not worth waiting around for this game until another 2 years pass....thats how much development they stiill have to do.
Now about this thing of big budget companies....I disagree....Roma Victor is being made by a low budget company and they have been working on it for years...the expected released is before the end of this year, though the developers, in their right mind never promised anything. This is the advantage of a low budget game! They don't have as much pressure and are just as capable as a big budget developing company, but they release the game when they choose to, not when their investors/publishers say so.....and Red Bedlam (the developing team) have promised us that they will not release the game untill it is completely done....and from what information we are currently being released in the forums, it sounds that they have only a few months left of development...by the way, commercial beta testing already started....so forget all about darkfall and go for Roma Victor (if you don't mind it being set in the time roman empire)! Everything Darkfall says it will offer and much much more!
Darkfall is far far away from completion, 2 years at the least, so its best just to forget about it, and in 2 years come back to it if you are still interested.
So GW has a good PVP, what is it like? What weapons, spells, do you loot people you kill etc etc.
It's not like that... GW has arena-only PvP, but it's definately intense and VERY addicting. I play GW like I play CS; I play once and awhile for a bit, but then I stop and don't play it for awhile.
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MMO hopefuls: Age of Conan.
TBH, im not that up for Darkfall, A few screen shots doesn't go that far with me, need in game video to see how it runs / plays, to see what its really like!
oh and BTW, Guildwars rocks!
If you're going to call 1 game that's not out yet Vaporware I'd suggest not touting the other till it gets out of closed beta. Because until it does it's still potential vaporware as well.
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Look I didn't mean to go against everyone and I don't mean to troll Darkfall but it still requires 2 years atleast of development. Now yes Darkfall needs more funding, that i agree with for sure, but you know how big budget games work, they are released before they are finished most of the time.
Now Darkfall has been in development for god knows how many years......people told me on their official chat (when I was interested in the game) that its initial release was projected in 2003! Thats 2 years ago.....and this is why Darkfall is known as possible vapourware at this moment and time. I just am trying to make you aware, not to wait for this game for another 1 or 2 years....they just recentley got their new CEO, so I don't think you can expect any great sneakpeaks anytime soon.
As for Roma Victor, I am just trying to encourage you to check it out....and no its not vapour ware because they are in the commercial test phase of closed beta not exclusive closed beta! Release is projected to be before the end of this year, right now between October and November...ignore MMORPG.com's release dates, they are always way off and inaccurate. Roma Victor does offer more features then Darkfall offers and more (exclude magic!), thats a fact. I have read Darkfall's FAQ and I know that what features they promise to my knowledge have not been done yet, because they haven't even started testing, and if you don't believe in the developments of the features Roma Victor offers, just read the forums as I said before. The game is full of ambition just read the FAQ....its a long one, but literally full of detail of what features they promise in the game. What more they offer:
An intense Crafting system where building anything, requires help from other players! And practically anything in the game can be built with this crafting system....just see their Skill tree!! Its full of skills...and they haven't even included all the skills yet, they still are adding more. But just to make a spear lets say, is one real hassle.
A player-based economy, you can have NPC Merchants selling your stuff. You can have a business of anything, even a gladiator school or arena, and people pay to watch the fights.....anything you can imagine, they have provided.
There is permanent death, for the few Player Characters who turn into legends...while everyone else who dies just goes to elysium and has to find their way back to real life by fighting what ever tries to stop them....and I think Elysium also makes it harder to get back to real life for those who have been very bad...in other words killing their own fellow people.
Open PvP (same as Darkfall I know but I am just making you aware!)
Now one of my favourite things....Large scale battles with 100s of NPCs under your leadership, to fight for you...there will be a lot of strategy included in this. There will be seige weapons, castles can be built, whatever you think of in the time of the Roman Empire is possible. Now limit to what land you own!
Politics are included....did you know, you first start out as a slave, then work your way up and could possibly become a Roman Citizen, then if you think big you could become a Senator or else, possibly if you choose to, you may want to kill the Emperor of Rome, through hiring assasins or killing him yourself, and then becomming the new Emperor if you have that kind of respect in the Senate!
Now I know that these features can't even be imagined to be in a game like Roma Victor, but they are being put in the game as we speak. Just read the forums! This game has been in Development for as long as Darkfall possibly, maybe even longer, but the developers are expecting it to be released in months....thats what they hope to do anyway. But they made this very clear, they won't release the game untill it is completely ready!
Just read the official forums of Roma Victor....its not over hyped in my opinion, but because people don't like the screenshots they get scared away. The screenshots, they themselves admit to being really bad. But they had their reasons and promised that the greaphics will be Standard graphics of the MMORPGs being released at the moment.
Ok I think I really put in a lot of detail, I will take a break, but I think I answered all your posts. Roma Victor can't be vapourware......its too close to a release.
Vaporware is a game that's no longer in production but it hasn't been officially cancelled. Darkfall is in production, so it's not Vaporware. Get your definitions straight.
Besides, nobody said you can't await Darkfall, and play Roma Victor at the same time. People will await Darkfall no matter what you tell them, mainly because it doesn't stop them from trying other games while waiting for DF.
Yeah sorry, I used Vaporware wrongly, but it was very close to that at one point.
Anyway thats what I am encouraging....no real evidence has been released on the progress of Darkfall, just what they promise the game will feature. Now I told them to leave the game, because they might be wasting their time waiting for Darkfall untill it starts showing its progress.
I believe the major hype for Darkfall is still present because of what Darkfall promises, but I haven't seen it deliver yet. I told the same thing that other people told me and I didn't reject what they said, instead I asked them for more reasons...and this is why I tell you not to wait for the game untill atleast a year later.
A personal reason I was put off by the game - The team making the game doesn't seem to be a very strong team (regarding teamwork), since they have been developing this game for so long and they only recently just last month or the month before got their new Project Leader. So long because to my knowledge this games initial expected release was in 2003!!! It is 2005 now and the majority of people who replied to me about the game said the same thing....it still has atleast 2 years of development left atleast.
I didn't mean to troll the game, I just want to make you guys aware that this game may never come out. Be aware the team was not progressing, and there is still a probable reason it may not progress.....they may do a rush job. So I don't expect it to be a very good game if it does come out, because what has created the hype till now has been the graphics in the screenshots with pretty lighting and shading for eye candy and the features they promise, but I checked the forums and couldn't find much progress. Its the progress of the game that makes it what it is, good or bad. Not what it promises and I just don't have any fait in the team which is making the game to be a successful team.
This my last say which I hope will repeat itself in your minds, so you can think about weather you should continue to follow up on this or not.
Of the best MMORPGs that have been released, were there any which had a team that didn't progress well from begining to release? There is one game, Horizons, which supposively screwed up because of lack of funding which is true sort of, but also because the project leader was hopeless at leading the project and he had great ideas, but he always started to change them and screwed the development of the game up, little by little. It is a very good game now, but it could have been better.
Now the dev team of Darkfall which doesn't progress well, but now with the new project leader may progress, do you still think that they can come out with the same game they initially promised?...this is why I thought I would be wasting my time following up on the game.
I don't want you guys to expect it to be a bad game, but there is a strong probability that this game could screw up before release or not be what everybody wants it to be. They don't have a strong budget and they just got a new project leader! This is what went through my mind, but in 2 years I will check out what developements and progress has happend to the game, and if I like what progress I see I will follow it up.
I don't want myself to get excited over a game that hasn't progressed well in the past unless the project is passed on to another game developing team or enough time has past to see how well they have progressed.
Definition: <jargon> /vay'pr-weir/ (UK "vapourware") Products announced
far in advance of any release (which may or may not actually
take place). The term came from Atari users and was later
applied by Infoworld to Microsoft's continuous lying about
Microsoft Windows.
So no...Not really. The true definition would be a game that's announced to be released somewhere in the near future. But will most likely never make it; either that or be pushed back something like 5 years.
The lack of development Darkfall has shown, and the fact it's been around publicly for quite a few years; has made it borderline vaporware.
"Fear not death; for the sooner we die, the longer shall we be immortal."
Hmmmm so Holy Circle was inventing!!!!
I just saw in his tag, what do you mean by leader?
Listen don't stick up for Darkfall, give me what hard facts you know!
I am not telling people to not bother waiting, I just telling them not to follow up on the game, because it just would be a waste of their time and excitement for nothing. And its people like you who give me the impression of dreamers, excuse me to say that, but you need to give me facts of why people should have faith in these developers.
And so yes Darkfall is vaporware!