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This is very alarming.

RufiusRufius Member Posts: 2,031

First of all, this has nothing to do with the hurricane or concerns the problems in that area I am as serious as a heart attack here guys.  I've recently been informed with this and, I have to say it is shocking to see that these are REAL reports from one of the most credible of news sources in America.  If someone, anyone has a smidget of proof that these are doctored webpages I would like to know as soon as possible.

With that said, I'll get to the point.  It has came to my attention that Bush has been involved with a society known as the Skull and Bones source HERE.  This article came out prior to the election of Kerry and Bush who ironically are cousins with Hugh Hefner of all people, source HERE.   I'm not posting this too damage the presidents reputation or others.  But this is report from "now sposed" legit news sources.  And, I'm really concerned at these reports as many other Americans should be. 

And if that doesn't take the cake President Bush's Grandfather had ties with banking for Hitler.  I was skeptical and still am at this but, theis report conflicts my skepticism, source HERE.  I'm worried that our country might truly be lead by a mad man in secret but, don't quote me on that.

All of this information came directly from this one book, The Illuminati.  Which is on ebay for sale, you can view it HERE.

I haven't an answer to this, I don't know who to believe anymore, this is unfathomable that our president could be involved with these kind's of people.  Yet, he is running our country, I ask again if anyone can debunk these reports with anything, please inform me.

Thank you

Professor Hubert Farnsworth - That question is less stupid but, you asked it in a profoundly stupid way.

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  • LanmoragonLanmoragon Member Posts: 994

    lol, theres a conspiracy behind everything and everybody who gives the news is legit.

  • RufiusRufius Member Posts: 2,031
    This book has just been recently added to ebay, I wouldn't take this lightly, even I that make things up on this board occasionally just to get a laugh is baffled at this.

    Professor Hubert Farnsworth - That question is less stupid but, you asked it in a profoundly stupid way.

  • XavonXavon Member Posts: 334

    Hmm, If I was looking for evidence that Bush was a loon, I'm fairly certain that the fact his Grandfather ran a bank which held money for a guy who funded Htiler is unlikey to by high on my list.

    The fact that they are part of a Yale 'Old Boys Club' is hardly surprising, and the fact that he is Hefner's distant relative is quite funny, yet irrelevent to anything.

    Anyways:
    GEORGE BUSH PLANS TO EAT YOUR LIVERS WHILE YOU SLEEP BECAUSE HE ONCE MEET A GUY WHO WENT TO SCHOOL WITH ANTHONY HOPKINS, WHO PLAY NONE OTHER THAN HANNIBAL 'THE CANNIBAL' LECTOR!!!

  • RazorbackRazorback Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 5,253
    Um not trying to be a smartass or anything... but thats as old as the hills.. Most people in positions of power in the US, especially from the right are involved with societies such and S&B. S&B is a real society and I thought it was pretty common knowledge that the bush family had a loong history of involvement with it...

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  • scaramooshscaramoosh Member Posts: 3,424

    You Americans make me laugh

     

    Never have a good president or someone running for president : All selfish

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  • MalicusMalicus Member Posts: 307

    Skull an bones is an Ivy league  Yale fraternity to prepare and nurture future movers and shakers. I have known since Bush Sr was president that he was part of this organization. here is a list of some others.

    F. Trubee Davison ('18) was Director of Personnel at the CIA in the early years. Some of the other "Bonesmen" connected with the intelligence community are:

    • Sloane Coffin, Jr. ('49)
    • V. Van Dine ('49)
    • James Buckley ('44)
    • Bill Buckley ('50)
    • Hugh Cunnigham ('34)
    • Hugh Wilson ('09)
    • Reuben Holden ('40)
    • Charles R. Walker ('16)
    • Yale's 'unofficial' Secretary of War, Robert D. French ('10)
    • Archibald MacLiesh ('15)
    • Dino Pionzio ('50), CIA Deputy Chief of Station during Allende overthrow
    • William and McGeorge Bundy
    • Richard A. Moore ('3?)
    • Senator David Boren ('63)
    • Senator John Kerry ('66)

    ...and, of course, George Herbert Walker Bush. Bush tapped Coffin, who tapped Buckley.

    Some other prominent Bonesmen include:

    • Henry Luce ('20), Time-Life
    • John Thomas Daniels ('14), founder Archer Daniels Midland
    • Gifford Pinchot ('89), President Theodore Roosevelt's chief forester
    • Frederick E. Weyerhaeuser ('96)
    • Harold Stanley ('08), founder of Morgan Stanley, investment banker
    • Alfred Cowles ('13), Cowles Communication
    • Henry P. Davison ('20), senior partner Morgan Guaranty Trust
    • Thomas Cochran ('04) Morgan partner
    • Senator John Heinz ('31)
    • Pierre Jay ('92), first chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York
    • George Herbert Walker, Jr. ('27), financier and co-founder of the NY Mets
    • Artemus Gates ('18), President of New York Trust Company, Union Pacific, TIME, Boeing Company
    • William Draper III (50), the Defense Department, UN and Import-Export Bank
    • Dean Witter, Jr.('44), investment banker
    • Senator Jonathan Bingham ('36)
    • Potter Stewart ('36), Supreme Court Justice
    • Senator John Chaffe ('47)
    • Harry Payne Whitney ('94), husband of Gertrude Vanderbilt, investment banker
    • Russell W. Davenport ('23), editor Fortune Magazine, created Fortune 500 list
    • Evan G. Galbraith ('50), Ambassador to France and Managing Director of Morgan Stanley
    • Richard Gow ('55), president Zapata Oil
    • Amory Howe Bradford ('34), husband of Carol Warburg Rothschild and general manager for the New York Times
    • C. E. Lord ('49), Comptroller of the Currency
    • Winston Lord ('59), Chairman of CFR, Ambassador to China and assistant Secretary of State in the Clinton administration

    Ever since Nixon re-established America's political relationship with China, many of our ambassadors to that country have been Bonesmen, including George Bush, the first Chief U. S. Liaison Officer to the Peoples Republic of China.

    http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/skullbones.htm

    until america learns how to research the people they vote into office rather then base the vote on likability or campaign platforms it is inevitable they will be ruled by shady elitists who are practiced to run and ruin the world.

  • ValdVald Member Posts: 138

    This was reported on during the 2000 election man...

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  • Fantom18Fantom18 Member Posts: 296

    I was talking to some ppl online about this a while back and we also talked about the "The Masons Society" which is supposedly an elite group of super wealthy ppl who make decisions for our country and sit in the background. Some of the richest men in the world are Masons but not Bill Gates. The pyrimad on the back of the $1 bill is the symbol for the Masons Society. Google it

    -F18

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  • RazorbackRazorback Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 5,253

    There is a good deal of evidence that societies like the masons have been running the show for a LONG time! and I dont mean 20 years... I mean like since AD and maybe before.....

    Watch "The man who would be king" Sean Connery and Michael Caine, sure its fiction but it draws on masonic history with more than a shred of truth.

    Looks like Betrayal just took his red pill.... welcome to the desert of the real man image

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  • RufiusRufius Member Posts: 2,031

    I wouldn't have believed any of this if the news sources were part of reputable organizations I don't know who to believe the media or the crazy nut down the street but, these reports are not in anyway giving a rational explaination to why this is like this which baffles me.

    I know it's old, I did look at the date of the news clips. I know that the Skull and Bones take an oath of silence, and if someone was to interview Bush about this society he'd most likely keep his mouth shut. I always wondered in one of his speeches why he mentioned something about,"Outrageous conspiracys"

    The strange thing with Bush and Kerry being related is that they are both 9th cousins, the news quickly said that's just a coincidence but, that's a pretty pecuilar coincidence. Just incase you guys don't know alot of religious practices has the number nine in it, not really the good part from my understanding.

    I recieved this information from an Ausstrialian ironically, he's half nuts, complete athiest, racist, and the list could go on. Which at first made me almost laugh this off.. after reading it something just didn't add up.  From his report certain groups of people are actually celebrating this disaster I forget what he calls them, I think it's the people that do Fuck All.  Excuse the language but that's what they call it.

    The US president, is not the only person in power that has ties with these associations and have bad reputations. One premier of Canada, I think in Ontario was busted for drunk driving, and he's reelected in office.

    Ugh.. I just don't have any idea why the president would be involved with this stuff, things like this should be informed to the public but, I don't know anymore, this worlds messed up.

     

    P.S. On 9-11 george bush Sr was having breakfast with a member of the bin laden family at the ritz carlton hotel. 

    Professor Hubert Farnsworth - That question is less stupid but, you asked it in a profoundly stupid way.

  • pinkstarfishpinkstarfish Member Posts: 120

    *sigh* people are brainwashed by everything they read...

    i honestly dont think any thing of it, its just a bunch of crap people write about because they haven't any thing else to bring up. as for illumittia (sp?) i find that cool and interesting, but i dont beleive any of it for a second. the satanic cult also *premered* in the book, " angles and demons", which was interesting to read, but it more than likely is all made up. 

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  • Fantom18Fantom18 Member Posts: 296


    Originally posted by pinkstarfish
    *sigh* people are brainwashed by everything they read...
    i honestly dont think any thing of it, its just a bunch of crap people write about because they haven't any thing else to bring up. as for illumittia (sp?) i find that cool and interesting, but i dont beleive any of it for a second. the satanic cult also *premered* in the book, " angles and demons", which was interesting to read, but it more than likely is all made up.

    WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!
    Dude the Skull and Bones organization has been proven real and the Stone Masons is an actual society. I forget what book it's in but they give reference to several Skull and Bones ppl and the would-have-been candidates who got rejected or kicked out. If I come across it I will so n00b you. (Sry to flame in ur shit betrayal but someone had to)

    -F18

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  • RazorbackRazorback Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 5,253



    Originally posted by Betrayal-X

    The US president, is not the only person in power that has ties with these associations and have bad reputations. One premier of Canada, I think in Ontario was busted for drunk driving, and he's reelected in office.
    Ugh.. I just don't have any idea why the president would be involved with this stuff, things like this should be informed to the public but, I don't know anymore, this worlds messed up.
    P.S. On 9-11 george bush Sr was having breakfast with a member of the bin laden family at the ritz carlton hotel. 



    Yes man 99.99% of people dont realise that its not "I cant believe the President is involved with this stuff" The reality is he would not be President if he WASNT involved. These societies hold the collection of individuals that shape the very nature of the systems and structures that determine who will hold positions of power in our so called "democracies".

    Australia is no different. If anyone still believes that "anyone" can be leader of a western nation, I would say show me them and I will show you someone with no idea of the real world.

    Democracy is a system like any system. It has doors and some of those doors are not open to everyone. The whole trick is maintaining the illusion that they are in order to keep the rest of us motivated by the belief that we can live "limitless lives" when the truth is.... that could not be further from the truth.

    Call it conspiracy theory, call it what you want. I have come to the realisation years ago that its not conspiracy because since the advent of the net it has all become public knowledge. They dont even bother to hide it anymore because they have come to realise that 49% of people arnt smart enuf to even wonder about the question, 49% arnt motivated enough to seek the answer when they do realise the question and the other 2% are just nutbags (like me) who arnt to be trusted by the 98% with our wild conspiracy theories.

    Revealing it all to the world is the best thing that ever happened to these systems because now its like the nose on your face.... you jut dont even notice it anymore...

    I know many of you dont like Michael Moore very much... and thats cool... but "Dude wheres my Country" details all this stuff... if you want to know the basic facts... read it... you dont have to like the guy but you can open your mind to the information he provieds... its fascinating...

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  • RufiusRufius Member Posts: 2,031


    Originally posted by Razorback
    Yes man 99.99% of people dont realise that its not "I cant believe the President is involved with this stuff" The reality is he would not be President if he WASNT involved. These societies hold the collection of individuals that shape the very nature of the systems and structures that determine who will hold positions of power in our so called "democracies".


    First things first the people of our country have the power to elect the president, the popular vote doesn't determine the entire election, if our Elections were to be designed that way there would be a significant imbalance.  The way it works is each state, New York, California, ect., are allowed so many electoral college votes.  Depending on the popular vote it will determine who wins the electoral vote of each state, so the way it works is still a Democracy as balanced as possible, old man in their 50's don't determine who is president but are who relay their results. 

    Now when it comes to daily work and opportunities as the years wear on we progress into Republic at times IMO, many things are governed by the higher corporations unless you work independently which the B.B.B. (Better Business Bureau) or S.B.B. (Small Business Bureau) are primarily the ones that govern the actions on a fair and balanced value of Merchandising, Franchising, Production, Demand, Pollution, Waste, ect., ect. 

    We are a capitalist country which does sadden me at times because of the needless waste that is disposed of, which could be used for many other things.  The big business men, would rather remove everything all together and start fresh then try to repair the broken businesses they purchase.  I've had a cousin, who goes to the scrap metal dump occasionally, a place where large corporations dump things and he's found things well into the value of 700$ a piece and not a shortage of them to say the least, this is chump change and disposable material to the Big Businessmen.

    So overall, I believe we are still a Democracy more then an Republic, even if Benjamin Franklin said,"We have a Republic".  In the thick of everything this country is still a Democracy, whether the people uphold the laws and abide by them is a whole different story in itself.  I believe in the days we are working, and doing our normal everyday business as human beings, we are still following the path of Democracy.

    Whew, I just had to point that out, its a touchy subject with me and people thinking the U.S. isn't a Democracy.  image

    Back on topic with this whole Bones and Skulls mess, for now I'll believe boths sides as speculation into this secret society, I'm not going to believe it's either a satanic cult or just a old men book club. Until, I come across anything compelling and solid proof of what's going on in there which I'll probably never really know.

    Professor Hubert Farnsworth - That question is less stupid but, you asked it in a profoundly stupid way.

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384

    lol

    I hope i dont run for president...

    In undergrad school I was involved in the Fighting Amish....

    ..we pretty much spent friday nights running around dorms butt naked wearing only a sock and weilding a 13th century Scottish claymore and a karate blue cushion redman shield.

    Ah the nights of terror we Fighting Amish caused....

    True story BTW

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • patheospatheos Member Posts: 1,148

    Your weird Enigma...lol. *lightning bolt lightning blot*

    President would be a horrible job.

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  • RazorbackRazorback Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 5,253



    Originally posted by patheos

    Your weird Enigma...lol. *lightning bolt lightning blot*
    President would be a horrible job.



    Yup I think it was Douglas Adams in Hitchhikers Guide (book) who wrote "anyone who actually wants to be a politician is clearly the wrong kind of person" image

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  • gazzaf1gazzaf1 Member Posts: 4

    It looks like there is a lot of tin foil hat wearing people on these boards.

  • VyavaVyava Member Posts: 893


    Originally posted by gazzaf1
    It looks like there is a lot of tin foil hat wearing people on these boards.

    People are over reacting on this topic but these organizations do exist. Goto college at almost any older/major Boston are college and you will run into them. MIT, Harvard, heck even Northeastern forensics has these organizations.

    In skull n' crossbones case it is just a group of wanna be elitests getting together at an elitest school planning being an elitest in the future. Most of these organizations are glorified specialty frats. Many have existed since shortly after the founding of the schools, that is where the mystique all comes from...not some ability they can control the world with.

    If you attended a public school you mamy not have run into such organization simply because they are newer communities. The hidden organization era has kinda passed and groups focused on a cause or entertainment now reign. Improvent IMO.

  • RazorbackRazorback Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 5,253



    Originally posted by Vyava




    Originally posted by gazzaf1
    It looks like there is a lot of tin foil hat wearing people on these boards.

    Well you wouldnt need a tin foil hat when your head is buried in the sand so your safe.

     

    People are over reacting on this topic but these organizations do exist. Goto college at almost any older/major Boston are college and you will run into them. MIT, Harvard, heck even Northeastern forensics has these organizations.

    In skull n' crossbones case it is just a group of wanna be elitests getting together at an elitest school planning being an elitest in the future. Most of these organizations are glorified specialty frats. Many have existed since shortly after the founding of the schools, that is where the mystique all comes from...not some ability they can control the world with.

    If you attended a public school you mamy not have run into such organization simply because they are newer communities. The hidden organization era has kinda passed and groups focused on a cause or entertainment now reign. Improvent IMO.



    And you need to do some research Bro. Its called the Skull and Bones Society, Skull and Crossbones is for Pirates arrrgh....It runs much deeper than you relalise, but fortunately the information about these things is now largely public record, I suggest you go read some of it.

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