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I've heard a lot of things but some things about this game are weird.
Horsas
Member Posts: 56
I tried Eve a long time ago and when I first logged on I started mining and that got so boring it literally killed me. I am not a miner and I don't want to do it EVER. After like an hour I saw one player fly by, and that was my EVE experience and I logged out after like an hour. But everyone (hardcore players) talk so much about this game. When I play MMORPG's I like to compete at the highest possible level but I think that would take like a year before I can even do that? It seems new players have a huge huge disadvantage in this game.
What do I do? Login now and play one year later?
*confused*
I'm not a miner or a crafter, I will never do that. I usually kill people for what I need (this is what I have no MMORPG to play right now I need a hardcore environment). I like to kil players and loot them have I come to the right place?
LuzArius
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1. You don't have to wait a year to play! you train as you need the skills and progress like that! Altho when i started i just trained all learning skills to lvl 5 to make it faster!
2. Only mine in groups with your corp
3. Do agent missions
4. you can pirate, scam people, loot players kill convoys etc etc.
Theres alot of things you can do, it's that kinda game where theres no end level and everyone is unique!
The game is what you make it
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a) play for longer than 1 hour
b) join an ingame corparation (sort of like groupings of players guilds etc)
c) play for 1-3 months to really get the skill progression going - this game is a long term game with no level grinding like u find in *ahem* wow in my opinion wow i played for 3 months and its a 3/10 just a cash cow for blizzard - eve however keeps u addicted once u really take the time to get used to it. Each skill opens up new abilities - modules - ships etc.
d) the game has progressed a great deal and CCP listen to player feedback and implement balanced advances.
e) u have agents taht give out missions (combat - items moving - mining etc) these NPC missions are good for solo and co op players
f) there are areas of the universe that newbies - intermediate and experienced players can play in but all can enter all areas - so its really interactive.
The "high sec" systems are safe zones, there are corparation and alliance wars that can be fun - NPC killing and looting for items to fit to youre ship - mining for produciton - selling NPC missions
A lot of interconnecting elements in this game but it is a very longer term committment to get to the upper elechons and therefore younger players ie under 18 may find this game just a bit beyond them given the longer 3-12 month committment to really get into the game - on the flip side the one thing that keeps it addictive
id rate even 9 out of 10 in most departments - u get the odd downtime and lagg and other server issues but a 2.5% downtime is muchj better than the 5% mentioned for WOW and some of the larger games and instead of being on many seperate servers eve imploys no instancing and runs on one server with each solar system running on a node - which all itnereact via ingame chat - teamspeak and other communication methods.
They have built a game that u get free patches - its not tied to any solo player computer game like WOW is. And is constatnly being patched - upgrade and new content larger elements etc.
They are now pushing 70,000 active playing accounts u get 3 characters to use per account. Up to 14,000 online on the one game world at the moment with plans for 75-80,000 active paying accounts (15,000 trial accounts which are mostly filled as well atm) and 20,000 active players online during peak periods and 4-10,000 during US and asian timezones.
You can start pirating after very little time in the game. To get your first useful pirating ship (generally the third tier frigate for your race) you can run combat missions for agents.
Now once you have your first ship, you'll need some skills to pull this off.
Propulsion Jamming (use of warp drive scramblers, as well as stasis webifiers)
Afterburners (for getting up close quick)
*ponders*
Actually, those are really the two skills that you have to have (well, minus the gun/missile skills)
In order to shoot other players, you have to be in a .4 or lower security rated system. In systems above .4, you'll get owned by CONCORD. In systems less than .4 but above 0.0, you'll take a security hit, and be fired upon by sentry guns (so dont shoot people near gates/stations, or go near sentry guns for 15-20ish minutes after attacking someone). If your security rating drops below -5.0, you'll be deemed an outlaw and be unable to enter space above .4. The best way to find people as a budding pirate is to check belts in .4-0.0 system, here you might find a miner or someone ratting, as well as npc rats. You can either kill or ransom people that you manage to beat up in the belts.
So you've spotted a target, he's an unarmed miner. Approach the person with your afterburners on. At around 12KM away, start to lock. You should have them locked before you get to 7500 meters away. Once you hit this distance, engage your warp scrambler. It can also help to have a stasis webifier fitted, but not completely needed. After that, shoot at them until they're at around 1/2 hull if you plan to ransom, convo the player and request your fee (dont blow them up if they pay, or else you will get a bad reputation and no one will bother to pay your ransoms again), if you don't want to ransom, just blow them up and collect their loot.
If you're in a .4-.1 system, I wouldn't recommend podkilling the player, as it is a HUGE security rating hit, and not really worth it.
Some people just blow up ships and ransom pods, but you have to be quick on the lock button to lock a pod and scram them before they warp off.
Hope this helped =P
Now with 57.3% more flames!
Greatest game Ive played. I usualy have a short attetion span but Ive been playing this game since 2003 and i still come back for more. It is a long term game though no quick bangs for your buck.
Tal
I would just like to know what games you played to get your loot from other players ? The only game that I know you can do that in is Shadowbane and that's kind of hard unless your grouped with about a dozen people since a R6 can pretty much annihilate an army of R5's and lower. Well, same goes for UO but, UO players are often more addicted to their servers than lord knows what and higher levels are kind of hard to kill for items since you can pretty much make a character invincible on the newer servers.
As for EVE, you can be a pirate and loot other peoples ships (can even keep their dead frozen corpses if you pod them) but, like everything else in the game, there are consequences to your actions. Attacking people in empire space (0.1-1.0 security rating) will drop your characters security status and eventualy will get you a filthy reputation (not necessarily a bad thing). Then again, if you become a pirate in 0.0 space (open-space which is often controlled by player alliances) killing people has no direct effect on the in-game relationships that your character will have. Only problem is, your eventualy gonna piss of the wrong person / corporation / alliance and no matter how good you are, eventualy, they will catch you and kill you.
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If you have the need to be "even" with the veteran players within a few months time, you won't much care for EVE. It's not designed to permit power players to "catch up" to veterans completely ... it just isn't and that's wonderful as far as Im concerned.
What you can do is to specialize, as has been noted here in several posts, and effectively "catch up" in a few key areas you want to engage in. That works for most people. But if it's important to you that you'll basically never catch up to some players in terms of total skill points, then you will find EVE extremely frustrating.
EVE is not like an FPS with loot. But if you want to attack and kill players, making a living off salvage then you certainly can do that as a pirate. It'll take time investment in selecting the right skills for the job, in working to a decent ship with good equipment and most importantly of all in PvP - the experience and learning how other players setup their ships and fight in order to best them. (Unless all you'd be going for is the gate-gank of every random newbie that passes by which has barely any in-game 'skill', fun, honour or anything else.) This takes time and patience however to get there. If you're looking for a game which within an hour you can be killing the best players around and becoming fabulously wealthy from the pickings, EVE is most definitely not the game for you.
[quote]Originally posted by Horsas
[b]I tried Eve a long time ago and when I first logged on I started mining and that got so boring it literally killed me. I am not a miner and I don't want to do it EVER.[/quote]
Don't blame you, just aswell you don't need to mine to make ISK - I'm worth over 15 billion ISK (A lot), and I don't mine.
Wait... You are making a post about how you dislike the game, when you've only spent an hour playing? Woah! Log back in. And if you only saw one person fly by, I'd be very surprised - in the starting systems there are almost always at least 20-30 people...
No, all higher skills do is really make you better at stuff. All the basics needed for mining, trading, PVP can all be attained within a week.
Yes, you have come to the right place for real PVP. All I can say is...
Patience young grasshopper, patience