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My journey to find good communities with your help

Community is what i consider to be the most important thing. So, since so many here on mmorpg.com seem to have a long history with mmos, i want to ask youthink the best mmorpg communities are, or where to you and why.

However, you cannot use the older games and their communities such has EQ, DAOC, UO, etc because the mmos wheren't very popular back then. The "post wow era" placed mmorpg on the bigger map and playerbases where different back then.

Also, when i say a "good community", i'm not just refering to chat talk. Have you seen a high level player help a newbie and teach him the game. Do you see players using chat bubbles and talk to each other face-to-face. What about people helping another player build and decorate is house? Anything.

Many place LOTRO's players at high regard, specially in it's RP servers. Do you think their playable instruments are an important part of it?

You can use any mmo you want, from EQ2 to recent TERA even. So, which games do you think fit here and what do they possibly have that make them so?

 

EDIT: Just in case it wasn't clear enough, the purpose of the thread is to also find out why certain communities are better than others. It would be really helpfull and very appreciated if you could use examples. Many will meantion EVE, i'm confident, but why do you believe it so? Is the game so compex that it atracts a more mature audience? Is it because, being a sandbox, working with others will cause a much better benefit?

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  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247

    UO's Atlantic server currently has a really great community.*

    Despite the cut-throat gameplay of EVE Online, it has an extremely helpful playerbase made up of really solid communities.

    The community on TERA's Celestial Hills server is very cool, as well. I think they're all out of their minds, though. :)

    *has <-- present tense.

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  • Salio69Salio69 Member CommonPosts: 428

    i think the only current mmo with a good community would be lotro.

    honestly, the troll age has set in. the "good" community really is rare now.

    lots of people like to blame wow for this, they are actually quite wrong. wow happen to come out around the time trolls started comming on to the internet. before the mid 2000s, the community was mainly filled with nerds. sure you had your hackers and viruses. over all though, pretty much all communities, not just mmos, were pretty nice. conversations were usually cilvilized. forum moderators would even give you a warning followed by a banning for doing things you see done today. same went with mmos, you acted like a prick, you got kicked out like a prick.

    enter the age of computers becoming more common, internet access even more broad, enter the age of the trolls discovering the net. these trolls were the same people who used to make fun of people for even being on a computer for more than an hour. these were the asshats you could be happy to get away from when you were on the net.

    around the mid 2000s, just a little bit after wow came out, trolls just started devouring everything. it was a massacre. flash forward, heading towards the mid 2010s, communities like League of Legends are the norm now.  people with screen names like "Toilet Brownie" and "YoureMomIsMyMount" will get you laughs instead of bans now. its pretty sad to say but the better days of the net are over. i dont see any change coming either, especially with todays kids being on the net and already accustomed to the trollopolis. they will just continue being trolls themselves, its what they see, its what they know, its what they will continue to be. 

    only options now is just simply to adapt or not bother with internet communities anymore, including mmos.

  • The_KorriganThe_Korrigan Member RarePosts: 3,460

    LOTRO on the Laurelin server, and to lesser extent on Landroval, has pretty good communities. The other servers community quality has dropped though since the game went free to play, it's your average WoW crowd in Middle Earth.

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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499

    If you want a game with a good community, you need to avoid games based on killing and looting monsters.  Those attract the wrong sort of players.

  • dreamscaperdreamscaper Member UncommonPosts: 1,592
    Originally posted by The_Korrigan

    LOTRO on the Laurelin server, and to lesser extent on Landroval, has pretty good communities. The other servers community quality has dropped though since the game went free to play, it's your average WoW crowd in Middle Earth.

     

    LotRO's community is still pretty solid, especially on the RP servers, but it was still much, much better before F2P came to town.

     

    I've been finding some good communities recently. For some reason, it seems as if the smaller communities are better overall. I'm currently playing Eve Online, Ryzom, and Vanguard, and all three have superb communities. Even Eve, which is usually considered pretty cutthroat.

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  • FredomSekerZFredomSekerZ Member Posts: 1,156
    Originally posted by Quizzical

    If you want a game with a good community, you need to avoid games based on killing and looting monsters.  Those attract the wrong sort of players.

    You know, i think that the more combat, vilonce, rivalry, competative, etc oriented the game is, the more "angry" the community is.

    Truth be told, there's almost no "calm" activities in mmorpg nowadays.

  • dreamscaperdreamscaper Member UncommonPosts: 1,592
    Originally posted by FredomSekerZ
    Originally posted by Quizzical

    If you want a game with a good community, you need to avoid games based on killing and looting monsters.  Those attract the wrong sort of players.

    You know, i think that the more combat, vilonce, rivalry, competative, etc oriented the game is, the more "angry" the community is.

    Truth be told, there's almost no "calm" activities in mmorpg nowadays.

     

    This is something that has been bothering me for years. We have the technology to create these wonderfully diverse and imaginative worlds, and yet the best thing we can seem to do with them is make them into glorified combat simulators.

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  • IstavaanIstavaan Member Posts: 1,350

    You wont really find good communities anymore, it's all about trolling and meme's these days.

  • IstavaanIstavaan Member Posts: 1,350
    Originally posted by dreamscaper
    Originally posted by FredomSekerZ
    Originally posted by Quizzical

    If you want a game with a good community, you need to avoid games based on killing and looting monsters.  Those attract the wrong sort of players.

    You know, i think that the more combat, vilonce, rivalry, competative, etc oriented the game is, the more "angry" the community is.

    Truth be told, there's almost no "calm" activities in mmorpg nowadays.

     

    This is something that has been bothering me for years. We have the technology to create these wonderfully diverse and imaginative worlds, and yet the best thing we can seem to do with them is make them into glorified combat simulators.

    That's what sells, you only have to look at the ridiculous amount of FPS games to figure that out.

  • MajorBiggsMajorBiggs Member UncommonPosts: 709

    You need to remember there's a few mmo's that have what you're saying.

    Second Life, A tale in the desert, Wurm Online, Haven & Hearth, *insert some stupid gimmicky indie piece of shit mmo*

    Or, maybe you meant  gamesthat have all/some of that stuff, but WITH combat and whatnot like

    Ryzom, EQ2, Vanguard, Neocron, I.E. games that have killing but you could craft/be successfull without killing much.

  • LithuanianLithuanian Member UncommonPosts: 559

    I found very good community in Istaria, since my first days. I could count what happened there and here: how I was given stuff I needed, was adviced about quests and given a hand when I was needed to; how I helped newbies with their quests and made them stuff I could make and how players help to build other players' structures receiving nothing for this, even the xp. It would be a long story (and the answer should be short).

  • NovendarNovendar Member UncommonPosts: 41

    I like to think that the best mmo to build strong communities will be Guild Wars 2 once it is out. There is no mob or loot "stealing" and everyone is brought together simply by participating in the same event.

     

    Also World vs World should greatly help build bonds between players of the same server, as there is no factions separating them. The server you are one IS your faction, your community and giant online family.

     

    I do hope I am not wrong about all this. I have great expectations with Guild Wars 2 not about content but about the community.

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