Perhaps one day developers and their financial backers will figure out that shiny bows and fancy wrapping can't cover up the mess inside the box.
Nah, what am I thinking...
I thought it was a pretty fun game.
I enjoyed the game as well, but that is not what broke the bank... he under estimated how much his secret little mmo was gonna cost and couldn't afford or deliver. Epic fail. Baseball star, gone gamer with too much money and a meathead idea.
"The King and the Pawn return to the same box at the end of the game"
Honestly, I would rather see gaming houses go bankrupt then allow free loaders and the F2P model.
I dunno, F2P is much more capitalistic than the sub model. In the sub model everyone is on equal footing; very communistic/socialistic (pick you derogitory economic slur). F2P with a cash shop, only those that fork over money get access to everything the game offers, or if it is a particularly forgiving f2p model like Aion, then you can buy xp boosts and other items that the pesants can't afford and you can. Capitalism FTW!
the communists made most of the parts in the computer you posted on
the communists likely made most of the parts in your cell phone and tv
the communists made parts in your american car
and the communists continually loan us money so we can buy more stuff from the communists.
how exactly is capitalism for the win again?
Hah
1. China is as far away from the ideas of communism, as is the Earth from the center of our galaxy.
2. If it were not for the "capitalists" countries, no one would buy these products and there wouldn't be a profit in producing them.
---------------------------------------- Evil UO has doomed my poor soul and now I'm wandering restlessly through all MMORPG's, desperately searching for a place to rest in peace.....
Honestly, I would rather see gaming houses go bankrupt then allow free loaders and the F2P model.
I dunno, F2P is much more capitalistic than the sub model. In the sub model everyone is on equal footing; very communistic/socialistic (pick you derogitory economic slur). F2P with a cash shop, only those that fork over money get access to everything the game offers, or if it is a particularly forgiving f2p model like Aion, then you can buy xp boosts and other items that the pesants can't afford and you can. Capitalism FTW!
the communists made most of the parts in the computer you posted on
the communists likely made most of the parts in your cell phone and tv
the communists made parts in your american car
and the communists continually loan us money so we can buy more stuff from the communists.
how exactly is capitalism for the win again?
Hah
1. China is as far away from the ideas of communism, as is the Earth from the center of our galaxy.
2. If it were not for the "capitalists" countries, no one would buy these products and there wouldn't be a profit in producing them.
wut? communist party of china is and has bene the ruling party in china for a longggggg time
but your right its more like a king sitting on his chair pissing on the everyone
Honestly, I would rather see gaming houses go bankrupt then allow free loaders and the F2P model.
I dunno, F2P is much more capitalistic than the sub model. In the sub model everyone is on equal footing; very communistic/socialistic (pick you derogitory economic slur). F2P with a cash shop, only those that fork over money get access to everything the game offers, or if it is a particularly forgiving f2p model like Aion, then you can buy xp boosts and other items that the pesants can't afford and you can. Capitalism FTW!
the communists made most of the parts in the computer you posted on
the communists likely made most of the parts in your cell phone and tv
the communists made parts in your american car
and the communists continually loan us money so we can buy more stuff from the communists.
how exactly is capitalism for the win again?
Hah
1. China is as far away from the ideas of communism, as is the Earth from the center of our galaxy.
2. If it were not for the "capitalists" countries, no one would buy these products and there wouldn't be a profit in producing them.
wut? communist party of china is and has been the ruling party in china for a longggggg time
but your right its more like a king sitting on his chair pissing on the everyone
This is truly a sad thing for all involved. Curt is a gamer and had a vision. Yes it failed as visions often do. At least he had the balls to try. Lots of familys are hurting right now because of this. To say he deserves it and such it just the rant of a moron.
Hero Evermore Guild Master of Dragonspine since 1982. Playing Path of Exile and deeply in love with it.
keep personal shots away from a great game- its a beautiful game. shame it went this route.
what have u guys acomplished in the past years..but throwing cheap shots in a news blog website.
A nice game, yes. Great, not so much. Beautiful, FFS no. Unless you think WoW and its ilk are beautiful.
What hurt KoA is its insane price tag. $60 was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much for it. If they had charged what it actually was worth ($40 at best with DLC's included) it would have sold more copies and made more money.
Releasing the Demo before launch hurt it too. See above for reason.
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keep personal shots away from a great game- its a beautiful game. shame it went this route.
what have u guys acomplished in the past years..but throwing cheap shots in a news blog website.
A nice game, yes. Great, not so much. Beautiful, FFS no. Unless you think WoW and its ilk are beautiful.
What hurt KoA is its insane price tag. $60 was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much for it. If they had charged what it actually was worth ($40 at best with DLC's included) it would have sold more copies and made more money.
Releasing the Demo before launch hurt it too. See above for reason.
~.~ crappyer games have been sold for the same; game was decent if i had to guess it was the mmo that screwd them.
keep personal shots away from a great game- its a beautiful game. shame it went this route.
what have u guys acomplished in the past years..but throwing cheap shots in a news blog website.
A nice game, yes. Great, not so much. Beautiful, FFS no. Unless you think WoW and its ilk are beautiful.
What hurt KoA is its insane price tag. $60 was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much for it. If they had charged what it actually was worth ($40 at best with DLC's included) it would have sold more copies and made more money.
Releasing the Demo before launch hurt it too. See above for reason.
~.~ crappyer games have been sold for the same; game was decent if i had to guess it was the mmo that screwd them.
Very true but the extra income that would have been made if they had charged a reasonable ammount for KoA MIGHT have helped. Might. Like a Band-aid on a beheading I suppose.
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This guy woke up after a hall of fame career and said, "Hey, I want to make a great game for people who love games." Then he did. He managed the making of the game and getting that done. He brought in big hitters from gaming and movies to crunch the numbers. Then you throw in the people telling him the EA deal would work? Then throw in a lying sleaze-ball politician who grossly exaggerated the amount given to the company. It wasn't 120 million. They received 40 million and were set to get the rest of the money to finish Copernicus. When Chafee was elected he did everything he could to torpedo the company, because he hates Schilling... What is a shame is that someone like Chafee (who has done nothing in his life, and who spends other people's money for a living, who has wasted more than a measly 40 million) can take down people like Schilling, Salvatore, MacFarland, and Ralston with lies and negative hype. If you think it was other-wise, you know shit about the business.
I really feel sorry for the guy. He's an idealist gamer, a bad businessman, and probably had people working for him that abused his trust. Also, this is why you form a corporation, and don't entangle your personal finances with it.
Honestly, I would rather see gaming houses go bankrupt then allow free loaders and the F2P model.
I dunno, F2P is much more capitalistic than the sub model. In the sub model everyone is on equal footing; very communistic/socialistic (pick you derogitory economic slur). F2P with a cash shop, only those that fork over money get access to everything the game offers, or if it is a particularly forgiving f2p model like Aion, then you can buy xp boosts and other items that the pesants can't afford and you can. Capitalism FTW!
the communists made most of the parts in the computer you posted on
the communists likely made most of the parts in your cell phone and tv
the communists made parts in your american car
and the communists continually loan us money so we can buy more stuff from the communists.
how exactly is capitalism for the win again?
Hah
1. China is as far away from the ideas of communism, as is the Earth from the center of our galaxy.
2. If it were not for the "capitalists" countries, no one would buy these products and there wouldn't be a profit in producing them.
Honestly, I would rather see gaming houses go bankrupt then allow free loaders and the F2P model.
I dunno, F2P is much more capitalistic than the sub model. In the sub model everyone is on equal footing; very communistic/socialistic (pick you derogitory economic slur). F2P with a cash shop, only those that fork over money get access to everything the game offers, or if it is a particularly forgiving f2p model like Aion, then you can buy xp boosts and other items that the pesants can't afford and you can. Capitalism FTW!
the communists made most of the parts in the computer you posted on
the communists likely made most of the parts in your cell phone and tv
the communists made parts in your american car
and the communists continually loan us money so we can buy more stuff from the communists.
how exactly is capitalism for the win again?
Hah
1. China is as far away from the ideas of communism, as is the Earth from the center of our galaxy.
2. If it were not for the "capitalists" countries, no one would buy these products and there wouldn't be a profit in producing them.
"Modern-day China is mainly characterized as having a market economy based on private property ownership,[203][204] and is one of the leading examples of state capitalism.[205][206]"
Wait, wasn't Schilling kind of a scumbag in that when he realized the company was in tough financial straits he pulled out the money he personally invested in it, and let everyone else deal with the failure?
"I will not play it nor any other MMO until they make it possible to obtain the best gear without forcing people to group up to do so." SwampRob
Shilling has always been such a big mouth tool who saw waay too much value in his own opinion that I'm sad to say watching his company fail has brought me a bit of joy. I'm sad for the people who lost jobs in this but am glad to see this clown get his just desserts whenever possible.
As far as the one game they released? It's tough out here with so many games that often look so much alike it's hard to stand out and that's the problem I had with it nothiing i ever read about it interested me in the game itself (maybe it has to do with the fact that shilling's name had already been attachd to the game) but for a man who made as much as he did something doesn't really sit right that the company has to fold afte realesing only one game.
china is technically communism but the economy is alot like capitalism. i got a cousin that is living over there right now and what he tells me isnt so bad. his biggest issue is there are no christian churches and there is blocks on the internet. other than that it isnt much different from here.
What, is this the 1950's? Just say "the Chinese" ffs...
Terrorists!! Terrorists!! (21st century, feel better?)
2.4 million just sounds like "Tax lawyer says sell the Miami condo", to me. Dig deal, not very?
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
It was quite an entertaining game. Its too bad things worked out this way, and that some of the suits at 38 were involved in some of the shady antics we've heard about.
Its sad indeed. Personal implications are always sad. It is also sad for all of those people who lost some of their pension over the bad investment and poor financial govenrnance their local government did. I wonder if the bank there should get anything before the tax payers.
Of course the banks get things before the suckers...err Tax Payers... The Banks DO own the politicians after all. Remember the TARP bail out and other such? Mel Brooks mode:ON and mugs for the camera; "Its good to *own* the King"... ^^
keep personal shots away from a great game- its a beautiful game. shame it went this route.
what have u guys acomplished in the past years..but throwing cheap shots in a news blog website.
I agree! Loved and love the game. Poor management is often the demise of something good... Our Circuit City and Borders Books are two example here. With game development it is even harder, due to the long time to develop before any return on the investment is realized. Broken promises by governments and greed of banks has almost eliminated any kind of long term investments without the "what will next quarters dividends"!
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Nah.
It is when your one-million copies sold game have also to finance huge mmorpg apart of itself.
it's a shame really. hopefully he can learn from this and still pursue his dream.
I enjoyed the game as well, but that is not what broke the bank... he under estimated how much his secret little mmo was gonna cost and couldn't afford or deliver. Epic fail. Baseball star, gone gamer with too much money and a meathead idea.
Hah
1. China is as far away from the ideas of communism, as is the Earth from the center of our galaxy.
2. If it were not for the "capitalists" countries, no one would buy these products and there wouldn't be a profit in producing them.
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Evil UO has doomed my poor soul and now I'm wandering restlessly through all MMORPG's, desperately searching for a place to rest in peace.....
wut? communist party of china is and has bene the ruling party in china for a longggggg time
but your right its more like a king sitting on his chair pissing on the everyone
EA probably behind this cause it was a good game. Shame.
wut? communist party of china is and has been the ruling party in china for a longggggg time
but your right its more like a king sitting on his chair pissing on the everyone
This is truly a sad thing for all involved. Curt is a gamer and had a vision. Yes it failed as visions often do. At least he had the balls to try. Lots of familys are hurting right now because of this. To say he deserves it and such it just the rant of a moron.
Hero Evermore
Guild Master of Dragonspine since 1982.
Playing Path of Exile and deeply in love with it.
A nice game, yes. Great, not so much. Beautiful, FFS no. Unless you think WoW and its ilk are beautiful.
What hurt KoA is its insane price tag. $60 was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much for it. If they had charged what it actually was worth ($40 at best with DLC's included) it would have sold more copies and made more money.
Releasing the Demo before launch hurt it too. See above for reason.
Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.
~.~ crappyer games have been sold for the same; game was decent if i had to guess it was the mmo that screwd them.
Very true but the extra income that would have been made if they had charged a reasonable ammount for KoA MIGHT have helped. Might. Like a Band-aid on a beheading I suppose.
Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.
I really feel sorry for the guy. He's an idealist gamer, a bad businessman, and probably had people working for him that abused his trust. Also, this is why you form a corporation, and don't entangle your personal finances with it.
I literally LOLed at this. Made my day, well that and my hot gf.
Looks like you need a political education. China: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_China
Communism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism
Thread Derailing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derail
Or you are both right....
"Modern-day China is mainly characterized as having a market economy based on private property ownership,[203][204] and is one of the leading examples of state capitalism.[205][206]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_of_China
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism
Curt's current dream most probably involves keeping his ass out of prison.
Wait, wasn't Schilling kind of a scumbag in that when he realized the company was in tough financial straits he pulled out the money he personally invested in it, and let everyone else deal with the failure?
"I will not play it nor any other MMO until they make it possible to obtain the best gear without forcing people to group up to do so." SwampRob
Shilling has always been such a big mouth tool who saw waay too much value in his own opinion that I'm sad to say watching his company fail has brought me a bit of joy. I'm sad for the people who lost jobs in this but am glad to see this clown get his just desserts whenever possible.
As far as the one game they released? It's tough out here with so many games that often look so much alike it's hard to stand out and that's the problem I had with it nothiing i ever read about it interested me in the game itself (maybe it has to do with the fact that shilling's name had already been attachd to the game) but for a man who made as much as he did something doesn't really sit right that the company has to fold afte realesing only one game.
china is technically communism but the economy is alot like capitalism. i got a cousin that is living over there right now and what he tells me isnt so bad. his biggest issue is there are no christian churches and there is blocks on the internet. other than that it isnt much different from here.
Terrorists!! Terrorists!! (21st century, feel better?)
2.4 million just sounds like "Tax lawyer says sell the Miami condo", to me. Dig deal, not very?
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
It was quite an entertaining game. Its too bad things worked out this way, and that some of the suits at 38 were involved in some of the shady antics we've heard about.
Of course the banks get things before the suckers...err Tax Payers... The Banks DO own the politicians after all. Remember the TARP bail out and other such? Mel Brooks mode:ON and mugs for the camera; "Its good to *own* the King"... ^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bF38rT7et0
I agree! Loved and love the game. Poor management is often the demise of something good... Our Circuit City and Borders Books are two example here. With game development it is even harder, due to the long time to develop before any return on the investment is realized. Broken promises by governments and greed of banks has almost eliminated any kind of long term investments without the "what will next quarters dividends"!
Gladari:
Ranger of Surefall Glade
Red Mage of Vana'diel
Acrotecher of Moatoob
Mate of Union