Ummmm, I thought you gave up on TOR a long time ago. You flip/flop more than anyone I've ever met.
Not as much as...never mind, the last thing I need is to wake up the sleeping blogger. Can't stay awake for an Archeage prayer meeting and revival today anyway.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
If he is a paying customer, then he is special, however if he's currently unsubbed, he really has no rights, and I'm surprised more companies don't just make the name available for any character that is inactive for a certain period of time.
I guess it would make many players angry, if you return to a beloved char for an expansion or what and find it renamed in "DofusXYZ12345". Still, if a merge happens, IMVPO the older taken should have precedence.
and they are supposed to investigate the names you used in other games?????
Chances are whoever is using your names on the server you transfered to have been using them since launch just like you.
Glad that you are an active member both here and in TOR but dude you have some very serious entitlement issues.
The Secret World has instituted the best new system so far.
First "NIckname" Last.
Allows people to have the same first and last names. But requires a unique Nickname.
Its very effective.
The first 5 nick names I came up with in that game were all taken. I finally had to make up a dumb one that didnt fit my characters first or last name at all. I would say it wasnt very effective unless the person only cares about the first name.
Generally when you use extremely common, overused names like the ones you listed, you run into this problem. Not one of my six toons had to change names.
I have seen Aryans in every single game I've played across multiple servers, for example. A little creativity doesn't hurt.
Much sympathy to the OP. More games need to plan for server mergers before ever putting one server online. More devs need to realize that folks get attached to their characters. Have you tried changing or doubling a letter here and there?
Much sympathy to the OP. More games need to plan for server mergers before ever putting one server online. More devs need to realize that folks get attached to their characters. Have you tried changing or doubling a letter here and there?
trust me it wouldn't matter if it wasn't this we would get a post complaining about something else entirely this is standard operating procedure.
I pretty much went through the same thing when I switched servers on my own I've been using my stage name for my ingame name since before I played mmorpg's and I used it in mmorpgs as well have had the same name in every game I played but had to come up with a few variations once I decided to switch servers.
But honestly none of this is neither here nor there this isn't about bad policy it is about entitlements and of course those who hate TOR and will cosign any negativity they can sniff out.
If he is a paying customer, then he is special, however if he's currently unsubbed, he really has no rights, and I'm surprised more companies don't just make the name available for any character that is inactive for a certain period of time.
You have to be subbed to transfer. He bought early to get his name. The mergers did him in. I'm sure that if re-subbed, I'd lose half, or more, of my names. Which, would tick me off. I wouldn't make a rant about it in a forum.
Plus, even if he 'won' this round, this isn't the end of the transfer/mergers. This is Phase 1 of Round 1. Phase 2 will be mandatory transfers off the dead servers 'for your own good.' Just like they did with Warhammer right before they axed 63 of the 100 servers. Then will come the next obligatory 'we support this game' statement. Just like they did before Warhammer's Round 2... A few rounds "we're committed to this game" followed by mandatory transfers and closures and SWTOR will be looking a lot like Warhammer, whihc has, last I read, just two servers left. 98% closure rate.
I honestly expect close to the same with SWTOR. The decline curve is the decline curve and it's so close to Warhammer's decline curve it's not even funny. Plus I look at the server my characters were assigned to. It's not any healthier than my old server when I quit. And it was difficult getting groups then. So it may, for a while, pump up the base, but it'll fade once again as people just keep quitting.
And it's not like BioWare can do anything about it... Their hands are tied. Their servers only hold so many people. There is no way they can make a massive, fundamental change to the game in a short time. So they'll just keep doing controlled burns until everything is consolidated as far as it can be consolidated.
My only question at this time is do they wipe out France or Oceania first? I bet Oceania. They can play on US or European servers like the did before they moved.
The Secret World has instituted the best new system so far.
First "NIckname" Last.
Allows people to have the same first and last names. But requires a unique Nickname.
Its very effective.
The first 5 nick names I came up with in that game were all taken. I finally had to make up a dumb one that didnt fit my characters first or last name at all. I would say it wasnt very effective unless the person only cares about the first name.
Me too. They database keys on the 'nickname.' I thought that was really stupid and they should use all three. If you name your self, for example: John Big Boote the data base could have you as JohnBigBoote.
But the way it is now, if someone gets John Big Boote, you can't do John Big River or John Big Fish or John Big Pun...
If he is a paying customer, then he is special, however if he's currently unsubbed, he really has no rights, and I'm surprised more companies don't just make the name available for any character that is inactive for a certain period of time.
I guess it would make many players angry, if you return to a beloved char for an expansion or what and find it renamed in "DofusXYZ12345". Still, if a merge happens, IMVPO the older taken should have precedence.
IMO, once you leave, you lose all rights to the names, the current paying customers have the right to them.
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Cryptic solved this even before WoW came out and Im surprised that people dont follow suit with waht CoX/CO as much.
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Much sympathy to the OP. More games need to plan for server mergers before ever putting one server online. More devs need to realize that folks get attached to their characters. Have you tried changing or doubling a letter here and there?
You're on the right track. Games do need to plan ahead on how they'll handle names, well before the game launches, to ensure that no one has a name he's attached to taken away, apart from offensive names.
But planning for server mergers is the wrong way to go. It's far better to have a server architecture that makes mergers irrelevant. For example, Champions Online has seen wild population swings, but never had server mergers.
I've played for an extended period of time, quit, and later returned to Infantry, A Tale in the Desert, Guild Wars, and Champions Online to play again for a long time. I've returned to a number of other games for shorter periods of time. And that's not counting single-player games, for which I've quit and returned later to many.
But from people saying that the original poster has quit SWTOR and returned many times, it sure sounds like he's the sort of person to quit, return, and want his names back.
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Elikal, you have been complaining about swtor for 6+ months now, how comes u haven't quit yet? This isn't a dig, I'm just curious why you keep playing when all your posts on here indicate you hate the game...
OT: sucks that u lost your names, but some of them seem like they would be popular. They should have planned how they were going to handle name clashes better. IMO the name should goto the oldest, active(logged in in past 3 months) character
Cluck Cluck, Gibber Gibber, My Old Mans A Mushroom
If he is a paying customer, then he is special, however if he's currently unsubbed, he really has no rights, and I'm surprised more companies don't just make the name available for any character that is inactive for a certain period of time.
I guess it would make many players angry, if you return to a beloved char for an expansion or what and find it renamed in "DofusXYZ12345". Still, if a merge happens, IMVPO the older taken should have precedence.
I had to deal with this after coming back to DCUO. It's pretty much why I gave up on the game immediately. I don't really blame SOE for it though, I'm fairly sure they gave players a chance to preserve their names, I just didn't bother at the time.
In any case, sorry to hear you lost your names! I'm not sure what BioWare's policy is on this front, but you may want to check with customer support to see if they have a satisfactory solution for you.
If they have to make a choice then I think it should be oldest name in relation to paid months. I don't think "Arvenal" from first day of early access but only 2 months subbed should trump "Arvenal" who subbed in January but has paid every month for 6 months straight...or "Arvenal" who subbed 3 months ago and maintained a sub.(Over and above the first free month of course) It's sad that these things happen but if it comes down to it..the one who's been paying is the name that should be staying.
You knew right from the start that they had an awful way of partitioning players into servers. Losing your names is just filling in the details of why it's awful.
You know what you can do about it? Cancel your account. Anything short of that constitutes giving your assent.
I did this now. *sigh*
No more compromise. Not again. Not with my names I carried for so many years through so many games.
EDIT: I added the people with "my" names as friends, and for a second you see their levels. My lost name chars were level 50, 50, 42, 37 und 28. They are: 11, 10, 1, 3 and 8. Good riddance, now I am REALLY angry. Bah. I hope Bioware burns and crashes. Star Wars fandom or no, I so have enough of being treated like dirt.
How is Bioware deserving of "burn and crash" because your name was taken? It's only a name.
If they have to make a choice then I think it should be oldest name in relation to paid months. I don't think "Arvenal" from first day of early access but only 2 months subbed should trump "Arvenal" who subbed in January but has paid every month for 6 months straight...or "Arvenal" who subbed 3 months ago and maintained a sub.(Over and above the first free month of course) It's sad that these things happen but if it comes down to it..the one who's been paying is the name that should be staying.
Personally I don't see what's wrong with what they did if you chose to move to a more populated server and someone on that server has your name then you have to choose a new name or a different spelling (which I had to do for all my characters on a new server).
The end result is someone is going to have to change names why should it be the person who hasn't done anything including a server transfer.
and as one person noted Cryptic had the whole @ thing which honestly didn't work for me and I would rather come up with a new name or spelling than to have to look at or type out @ everytime I spoke to someone.
You should be given a notice that if the server your going too has your name taken already. Something along those lines would be nice. Then you can decide if you still want to move there.
When I first got the game I made several characters on several different servers just in case. But now I don't even play it anymore.
You can always try to roll a few toons on the suggested realm before tranferring. I did and not a single name I use is available so I will wait for paid tranfers to lump my toons together on The Harbinger.
Even though I'm not subbed, I used the online transfer and assume that most of my names and my Legacy were already used. I won't know for sure until they offer another free week or weekend as I definitely won't resub in the current state AND find out my names are gone.
IMO, once you leave, you lose all rights to the names, the current paying customers have the right to them.
Besides WOW, how many people really ever go back?
A lot fewer would return if they incorporated that horrible naming rule. As long as they allow special characters in names it's not nearly as bad as there are different versions of the english vowels to pick from.
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Not as much as...never mind, the last thing I need is to wake up the sleeping blogger. Can't stay awake for an Archeage prayer meeting and revival today anyway.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
and they are supposed to investigate the names you used in other games?????
Chances are whoever is using your names on the server you transfered to have been using them since launch just like you.
Glad that you are an active member both here and in TOR but dude you have some very serious entitlement issues.
The first 5 nick names I came up with in that game were all taken. I finally had to make up a dumb one that didnt fit my characters first or last name at all. I would say it wasnt very effective unless the person only cares about the first name.
Generally when you use extremely common, overused names like the ones you listed, you run into this problem. Not one of my six toons had to change names.
I have seen Aryans in every single game I've played across multiple servers, for example. A little creativity doesn't hurt.
Much sympathy to the OP. More games need to plan for server mergers before ever putting one server online. More devs need to realize that folks get attached to their characters. Have you tried changing or doubling a letter here and there?
trust me it wouldn't matter if it wasn't this we would get a post complaining about something else entirely this is standard operating procedure.
I pretty much went through the same thing when I switched servers on my own I've been using my stage name for my ingame name since before I played mmorpg's and I used it in mmorpgs as well have had the same name in every game I played but had to come up with a few variations once I decided to switch servers.
But honestly none of this is neither here nor there this isn't about bad policy it is about entitlements and of course those who hate TOR and will cosign any negativity they can sniff out.
You have to be subbed to transfer. He bought early to get his name. The mergers did him in. I'm sure that if re-subbed, I'd lose half, or more, of my names. Which, would tick me off. I wouldn't make a rant about it in a forum.
Plus, even if he 'won' this round, this isn't the end of the transfer/mergers. This is Phase 1 of Round 1. Phase 2 will be mandatory transfers off the dead servers 'for your own good.' Just like they did with Warhammer right before they axed 63 of the 100 servers. Then will come the next obligatory 'we support this game' statement. Just like they did before Warhammer's Round 2... A few rounds "we're committed to this game" followed by mandatory transfers and closures and SWTOR will be looking a lot like Warhammer, whihc has, last I read, just two servers left. 98% closure rate.
I honestly expect close to the same with SWTOR. The decline curve is the decline curve and it's so close to Warhammer's decline curve it's not even funny. Plus I look at the server my characters were assigned to. It's not any healthier than my old server when I quit. And it was difficult getting groups then. So it may, for a while, pump up the base, but it'll fade once again as people just keep quitting.
And it's not like BioWare can do anything about it... Their hands are tied. Their servers only hold so many people. There is no way they can make a massive, fundamental change to the game in a short time. So they'll just keep doing controlled burns until everything is consolidated as far as it can be consolidated.
My only question at this time is do they wipe out France or Oceania first? I bet Oceania. They can play on US or European servers like the did before they moved.
Me too. They database keys on the 'nickname.' I thought that was really stupid and they should use all three. If you name your self, for example: John Big Boote the data base could have you as JohnBigBoote.
But the way it is now, if someone gets John Big Boote, you can't do John Big River or John Big Fish or John Big Pun...
IMO, once you leave, you lose all rights to the names, the current paying customers have the right to them.
Besides WOW, how many people really ever go back?
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In all fairness. You can stay on your original server and keep those names. It was your choice to move.
@OP yeah that sucks. i would be pretty upset.
Cryptic solved this even before WoW came out and Im surprised that people dont follow suit with waht CoX/CO as much.
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You're on the right track. Games do need to plan ahead on how they'll handle names, well before the game launches, to ensure that no one has a name he's attached to taken away, apart from offensive names.
But planning for server mergers is the wrong way to go. It's far better to have a server architecture that makes mergers irrelevant. For example, Champions Online has seen wild population swings, but never had server mergers.
I've played for an extended period of time, quit, and later returned to Infantry, A Tale in the Desert, Guild Wars, and Champions Online to play again for a long time. I've returned to a number of other games for shorter periods of time. And that's not counting single-player games, for which I've quit and returned later to many.
But from people saying that the original poster has quit SWTOR and returned many times, it sure sounds like he's the sort of person to quit, return, and want his names back.
Never mind...
I should've known who...
OT: sucks that u lost your names, but some of them seem like they would be popular. They should have planned how they were going to handle name clashes better. IMO the name should goto the oldest, active(logged in in past 3 months) character
Cluck Cluck, Gibber Gibber, My Old Mans A Mushroom
I had to deal with this after coming back to DCUO. It's pretty much why I gave up on the game immediately. I don't really blame SOE for it though, I'm fairly sure they gave players a chance to preserve their names, I just didn't bother at the time.
In any case, sorry to hear you lost your names! I'm not sure what BioWare's policy is on this front, but you may want to check with customer support to see if they have a satisfactory solution for you.
If they have to make a choice then I think it should be oldest name in relation to paid months. I don't think "Arvenal" from first day of early access but only 2 months subbed should trump "Arvenal" who subbed in January but has paid every month for 6 months straight...or "Arvenal" who subbed 3 months ago and maintained a sub.(Over and above the first free month of course) It's sad that these things happen but if it comes down to it..the one who's been paying is the name that should be staying.
How is Bioware deserving of "burn and crash" because your name was taken? It's only a name.
Personally I don't see what's wrong with what they did if you chose to move to a more populated server and someone on that server has your name then you have to choose a new name or a different spelling (which I had to do for all my characters on a new server).
The end result is someone is going to have to change names why should it be the person who hasn't done anything including a server transfer.
and as one person noted Cryptic had the whole @ thing which honestly didn't work for me and I would rather come up with a new name or spelling than to have to look at or type out @ everytime I spoke to someone.
You should be given a notice that if the server your going too has your name taken already. Something along those lines would be nice. Then you can decide if you still want to move there.
When I first got the game I made several characters on several different servers just in case. But now I don't even play it anymore.
You can always try to roll a few toons on the suggested realm before tranferring. I did and not a single name I use is available so I will wait for paid tranfers to lump my toons together on The Harbinger.
Playing: varies every day it seems.
Even though I'm not subbed, I used the online transfer and assume that most of my names and my Legacy were already used. I won't know for sure until they offer another free week or weekend as I definitely won't resub in the current state AND find out my names are gone.
A lot fewer would return if they incorporated that horrible naming rule. As long as they allow special characters in names it's not nearly as bad as there are different versions of the english vowels to pick from.