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My opinion About TSW

xenptxenpt Member Posts: 430

Just to warn you guys this is my opinion as an hardcore gamer that likes to try all games.

 

The main idea of the game is quite good and the evolving  environment sound music is pretty awesome.

Doing quests gets interesting althought it also gets boring not all quests are interesting like the main ones.

The gameplay is really horrible for a game this big, coming out in 2012 with this horrible gameplay i have no idea what is wrong with Funcom.

PvP is fun but since the gameplay is horrible it will annoy you also if theres lots of people it will give you breaks of lag.

 

For me this game from 0 to 100 in SCORE i will give  a 60 if gameplay was good it would go to the 85/90 but its just horrible.

Because gameplay is everything to a gamer.

I am sad that they made a game this awesome with so much issues and horrible gameplay. Hope they will learn it and make a decent one in the future.

Im a big fan of Anarchy Online and i like AoC.

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  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by xenpt

    Just to warn you guys this is my opinion as an hardcore gamer that likes to try all games.

     

    The main idea of the game is quite good and the evolving  environment sound music is pretty awesome.

    Doing quests gets interesting althought it also gets boring not all quests are interesting like the main ones.

    The gameplay is really horrible for a game this big, coming out in 2012 with this horrible gameplay i have no idea what is wrong with Funcom.

    PvP is fun but since the gameplay is horrible it will annoy you also if theres lots of people it will give you breaks of lag.

     

    For me this game from 0 to 100 in SCORE i will give  a 60 if gameplay was good it would go to the 85/90 but its just horrible.

    Because gameplay is everything to a gamer.

    I am sad that they made a game this awesome with so much issues and horrible gameplay. Hope they will learn it and make a decent one in the future.

    Im a big fan of Anarchy Online and i like AoC.

    kind of a non descriptive opinion.. what about the gameplay do you dislike?

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • ChicagoCubChicagoCub Member UncommonPosts: 381

    I would say that sums it up well.  A great idea, poorly executed.

  • wireyankeewireyankee Member Posts: 36

    Good honest review. I agree with you. Their is no excuse for gameplay to be this poor in 2012. Games like WoW, and CoH's have been out for years with better graphics and gameplay.

  • xenptxenpt Member Posts: 430
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by xenpt

    Just to warn you guys this is my opinion as an hardcore gamer that likes to try all games.

     

    The main idea of the game is quite good and the evolving  environment sound music is pretty awesome.

    Doing quests gets interesting althought it also gets boring not all quests are interesting like the main ones.

    The gameplay is really horrible for a game this big, coming out in 2012 with this horrible gameplay i have no idea what is wrong with Funcom.

    PvP is fun but since the gameplay is horrible it will annoy you also if theres lots of people it will give you breaks of lag.

     

    For me this game from 0 to 100 in SCORE i will give  a 60 if gameplay was good it would go to the 85/90 but its just horrible.

    Because gameplay is everything to a gamer.

    I am sad that they made a game this awesome with so much issues and horrible gameplay. Hope they will learn it and make a decent one in the future.

    Im a big fan of Anarchy Online and i like AoC.

    kind of a non descriptive opinion.. what about the gameplay do you dislike?

    The movement of the characters and when you hit them its like nothing its like weird you don´t actually have that feeling that your hitting on the mobs you know. 

    Its like you are in Mars with low gravity.

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  • xenptxenpt Member Posts: 430

    Funcom has the best ideas for mmorpgs but they just don´t have the skill.

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  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by wireyankee

    Good honest review. I agree with you. Their is no excuse for gameplay to be this poor in 2012. Games like WoW, and CoH's have been out for years with better graphics and gameplay.

    how is this a good honest review? he didn't explain any real reasons he dislikes the game.. basically just said "bad gameplay" and that's it.. I would say it's a pretty lousy review. It's fine if you think the gameplay sucks but at least explain how and why you feel it sucks

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • FredomSekerZFredomSekerZ Member Posts: 1,156

    Well, i can't speak for other people and won't, but i'm playing this game for the "gameplay" aka combata anyway. So i'm all good. Sorry you didn't like. I do agree it's the weakest part of the game and since it's vvery important to you, i can see it being such a deal breaker.

  • xenptxenpt Member Posts: 430
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by wireyankee

    Good honest review. I agree with you. Their is no excuse for gameplay to be this poor in 2012. Games like WoW, and CoH's have been out for years with better graphics and gameplay.

    how is this a good honest review? he didn't explain any real reasons he dislikes the game.. basically just said "bad gameplay" and that's it.. I would say it's a pretty lousy review. It's fine if you think the gameplay sucks but at least explain how and why you feel it sucks

    i already said its like you have no solid feeling your hitting the mobs its l ike your fighting on Mars or on a different planet.

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  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by xenpt
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by xenpt

    Just to warn you guys this is my opinion as an hardcore gamer that likes to try all games.

     

    The main idea of the game is quite good and the evolving  environment sound music is pretty awesome.

    Doing quests gets interesting althought it also gets boring not all quests are interesting like the main ones.

    The gameplay is really horrible for a game this big, coming out in 2012 with this horrible gameplay i have no idea what is wrong with Funcom.

    PvP is fun but since the gameplay is horrible it will annoy you also if theres lots of people it will give you breaks of lag.

     

    For me this game from 0 to 100 in SCORE i will give  a 60 if gameplay was good it would go to the 85/90 but its just horrible.

    Because gameplay is everything to a gamer.

    I am sad that they made a game this awesome with so much issues and horrible gameplay. Hope they will learn it and make a decent one in the future.

    Im a big fan of Anarchy Online and i like AoC.

    kind of a non descriptive opinion.. what about the gameplay do you dislike?

    The movement of the characters and when you hit them its like nothing its like weird you don´t actually have that feeling that your hitting on the mobs you know. 

    Its like you are in Mars with low gravity.

    some weapons yes i agree for whatever reason they don't have correct "feedback" when hit.. although they did fix a lot of this. For example if you shoot a zombie in the face point blank with a pistol it used to do nothing but show a little blood spurt. Now the zombies head flings backward in reaction to the shot so they have improved what you are complaining about... my issue is weight of weapons. It feels no different swinging a sword than it does swinging a giant ass hammer.

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • xenptxenpt Member Posts: 430
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by xenpt
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by xenpt

    Just to warn you guys this is my opinion as an hardcore gamer that likes to try all games.

     

    The main idea of the game is quite good and the evolving  environment sound music is pretty awesome.

    Doing quests gets interesting althought it also gets boring not all quests are interesting like the main ones.

    The gameplay is really horrible for a game this big, coming out in 2012 with this horrible gameplay i have no idea what is wrong with Funcom.

    PvP is fun but since the gameplay is horrible it will annoy you also if theres lots of people it will give you breaks of lag.

     

    For me this game from 0 to 100 in SCORE i will give  a 60 if gameplay was good it would go to the 85/90 but its just horrible.

    Because gameplay is everything to a gamer.

    I am sad that they made a game this awesome with so much issues and horrible gameplay. Hope they will learn it and make a decent one in the future.

    Im a big fan of Anarchy Online and i like AoC.

    kind of a non descriptive opinion.. what about the gameplay do you dislike?

    The movement of the characters and when you hit them its like nothing its like weird you don´t actually have that feeling that your hitting on the mobs you know. 

    Its like you are in Mars with low gravity.

    some weapons yes i agree for whatever reason they don't have correct "feedback" when hit.. although they did fix a lot of this. For example if you shoot a zombie in the face point blank with a pistol it used to do nothing but show a little blood spurt. Now the zombies head flings backward in reaction to the shot so they have improved what you are complaining about... my issue is weight of weapons. It feels no different swinging a sword than it does swinging a giant ass hammer.

    Look maybe its because im used to games like Lineage 2 Guildwars 2, WoW, AoC, etc...   that you actually feel the hit pretty hard.I just think the game makes it smoother when it should be more blasty you know more SOLID.

    Its like your figthing with less gravity.

    I just don´t like it its not a game for hardcore gamers, and its not a game for everyone´s tastes but i gotta to take my hat for the design of the levels environment and music  and quest system.

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  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by xenpt
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by xenpt
    Originally posted by Aerowyn
    Originally posted by xenpt

    Just to warn you guys this is my opinion as an hardcore gamer that likes to try all games.

     

    The main idea of the game is quite good and the evolving  environment sound music is pretty awesome.

    Doing quests gets interesting althought it also gets boring not all quests are interesting like the main ones.

    The gameplay is really horrible for a game this big, coming out in 2012 with this horrible gameplay i have no idea what is wrong with Funcom.

    PvP is fun but since the gameplay is horrible it will annoy you also if theres lots of people it will give you breaks of lag.

     

    For me this game from 0 to 100 in SCORE i will give  a 60 if gameplay was good it would go to the 85/90 but its just horrible.

    Because gameplay is everything to a gamer.

    I am sad that they made a game this awesome with so much issues and horrible gameplay. Hope they will learn it and make a decent one in the future.

    Im a big fan of Anarchy Online and i like AoC.

    kind of a non descriptive opinion.. what about the gameplay do you dislike?

    The movement of the characters and when you hit them its like nothing its like weird you don´t actually have that feeling that your hitting on the mobs you know. 

    Its like you are in Mars with low gravity.

    some weapons yes i agree for whatever reason they don't have correct "feedback" when hit.. although they did fix a lot of this. For example if you shoot a zombie in the face point blank with a pistol it used to do nothing but show a little blood spurt. Now the zombies head flings backward in reaction to the shot so they have improved what you are complaining about... my issue is weight of weapons. It feels no different swinging a sword than it does swinging a giant ass hammer.

    Look maybe its because im used to games like Lineage 2 Guildwars 2, WoW, AoC, etc...   that you actually feel the hit pretty hard.I just think the game makes it smoother when it should be more blasty you know more SOLID.

    Its like your figthing with less gravity.

    I know what you are saying and it is also one of my biggest issues with combat. What Iam saying is it has been improved, probably not enough for what you want but they have been working on this.  I dunno about comparing it to wow though don't remember getting much feedback on most hits in that game unless its changed since I played years back.

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • GreyhooffGreyhooff Member Posts: 654
    Originally posted by xenpt

    Just to warn you guys this is my opinion as an hardcore gamer that likes to try all games.

     

    The main idea of the game is quite good and the evolving  environment sound music is pretty awesome.

    Doing quests gets interesting althought it also gets boring not all quests are interesting like the main ones.

    The gameplay is really horrible for a game this big, coming out in 2012 with this horrible gameplay i have no idea what is wrong with Funcom.

    PvP is fun but since the gameplay is horrible it will annoy you also if theres lots of people it will give you breaks of lag.

     

    For me this game from 0 to 100 in SCORE i will give  a 60 if gameplay was good it would go to the 85/90 but its just horrible.

    Because gameplay is everything to a gamer.

    I am sad that they made a game this awesome with so much issues and horrible gameplay. Hope they will learn it and make a decent one in the future.

    Im a big fan of Anarchy Online and i like AoC.

     

    Pretty much this.

    I wish the game was better because I love the story and setting.

    Unfortunately, the gameplay, the animation, the aesthetics, and oh dear god the PVP are just bad. 

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  • wasim470wasim470 Member Posts: 243
    Originally posted by xenpt

    Just to warn you guys this is my opinion as an hardcore gamer that likes to try all games.

     

    The main idea of the game is quite good and the evolving  environment sound music is pretty awesome.

    Doing quests gets interesting althought it also gets boring not all quests are interesting like the main ones.

    The gameplay is really horrible for a game this big, coming out in 2012 with this horrible gameplay i have no idea what is wrong with Funcom.

    PvP is fun but since the gameplay is horrible it will annoy you also if theres lots of people it will give you breaks of lag.

     

    For me this game from 0 to 100 in SCORE i will give  a 60 if gameplay was good it would go to the 85/90 but its just horrible.

    Because gameplay is everything to a gamer.

    I am sad that they made a game this awesome with so much issues and horrible gameplay. Hope they will learn it and make a decent one in the future.

    Im a big fan of Anarchy Online and i like AoC.

    +10

  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843

    While your review is just fine, even though you don't share the same view as I do, the more prespectives the better.

     

    With all due respect I think it should be said that it looks like you are a big fan of GW2 aswell.

  • AerowynAerowyn Member Posts: 7,928
    Originally posted by bcbully

    While your review is just fine, even though you don't share the same view as I do, the more prespectives the better.

     

    With all due respect I think it should be said that it looks like you are a big fan of GW2 aswell.

    you seem so obsessed in beleiving just because a person likes GW2 they cannot like TSW just is an obsurd perspective. Both are good games. And someone can actually like both of them as I do.

     

    I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  • VagabondLifeVagabondLife Member Posts: 91
    Originally posted by bcbully 

    With all due respect I think it should be said that it looks like you are a big fan of GW2 aswell.

    With all due respect what has that got to do with his review of TSW?? I am glad you found your game and love it so much. I just wish you would quit flame/bashing GW2, and the people who like it. K?

  • MisatoTremorMisatoTremor Member UncommonPosts: 72

    I see where you're coming from. Just I for myself have to disagree to some extend for the current state of the game.

    Your main reason can be agreed upon as this clearly was the case in earlier beta builds. But as it has been said this has already improved for a range of weapon types. It is not prefect currently but it clearly seems that they are working on it.

    Most games (and other media for that matter) tend to overdraw weapon hit effects because - of course - it looks cool. But I like Funcoms more realistic approach.

    I hope they improve the current implementation further to this point, but it looks like this is on a good way. I only doubt this will be done by release, but I doesn't (by far) bother me enough that I won't play and enjoy TSW.

    Misato - TankDoc for Life
  • HorrorScopeHorrorScope Member UncommonPosts: 599
    Originally posted by wireyankee

    Good honest review. I agree with you. Their is no excuse for gameplay to be this poor in 2012. Games like WoW, and CoH's have been out for years with better graphics and gameplay.

    Right, COH is one of the original and the combat/gameplay of it is still one of the best. Puzzling no doubt.

    I agree with OP and others, there are some really cool story ideas here, but heck face it you are gonna be running and gunning forever, that has to be glass and it's not for me. :(

     

     

     

  • Bushi131Bushi131 Member Posts: 62
    Originally posted by ChicagoCub

    I would say that sums it up well.  A great idea, poorly executed.

    quite sharp :)

  • bcbullybcbully Member EpicPosts: 11,843
    Originally posted by VagabondLife
    Originally posted by bcbully 

    With all due respect I think it should be said that it looks like you are a big fan of GW2 aswell.

    With all due respect what has that got to do with his review of TSW?? I am glad you found your game and love it so much. I just wish you would quit flame/bashing GW2, and the people who like it. K?

    No flaming. We all know that a lot of die hard fans of GW2 (not saying you) have been know to have unfavorable views of games other than GW2. No secret there. Not saying that's OP, I don't know him, or that his view is not valid. Which I said in my  post that you edited.  All view points are valued. It's just good to have a point of reference. 

  • Dahkot72Dahkot72 Member Posts: 261
    Originally posted by ChicagoCub

    I would say that sums it up well.  A great idea, poorly executed.

     

    I'll go on record saying that this will be the vast majority of reviews overall tone and statement.

    Short and sweet , it sums up TSW.

  • VagabondLifeVagabondLife Member Posts: 91
    Originally posted by bcbully
    Originally posted by VagabondLife
    Originally posted by bcbully 

    With all due respect I think it should be said that it looks like you are a big fan of GW2 aswell.

    With all due respect what has that got to do with his review of TSW?? I am glad you found your game and love it so much. I just wish you would quit flame/bashing GW2, and the people who like it. K?

    No flaming. We all know that a lot of die hard fans of GW2 (not saying you) have been know to have unfavorable views of games other than GW2. No secret there. Not saying that's OP, I don't know him, or that his view is not valid. Which I said in my  post that you edited.  All view points are valued. It's just good to have a point of reference. 

    I just fail to see what constantly throwing jabs at GW2 in your posts (when not called for) has to do for the good of the forums. Here we have 2 perfectly good games which are trying to expand/refresh the stale/old mmo formats, and all I see are people flaming the 2 games. I am sorry if someone pissed in your TSW cereal and left a bad taste. I just wish the fanbois would give it a rest and leave the game they hate alone......each to his own and all that.

    The OP said nothing about GW2 in his post yet you had to bring it up........give it a rest, please.

  • UsulDaNeriakUsulDaNeriak Member Posts: 640

    well, the way a hit impacts a mob or not is not a part of gameplay imho. its bad animations, which is together with graphics and stuff part of the overall atmosphere.

    gameplay for me means something different (operational flexibility, tactical versatility and in depth strategy).

    but i agree, TSW lacks in both departments. some ideas are really good, no doubt. but i am afraid, i will play this game the same way i played SWTOR. i will check the story (which is the better part of this game) up to the end and quit. it is not worth to be played longer due to the poor gameplay.

    and no, i am not a GW2 fanboi. GW2 is a bit better in this deparment, and also has some refreshing new ideas, but is far away from a  sufficient gameplay, too.

    played: Everquest I (6 years), EVE (3 years)
    months: EQII, Vanguard, Siedler Online, SWTOR, Guild Wars 2
    weeks: WoW, Shaiya, Darkfall, Florensia, Entropia, Aion, Lotro, Fallen Earth, Uncharted Waters
    days: DDO, RoM, FFXIV, STO, Atlantica, PotBS, Maestia, WAR, AoC, Gods&Heroes, Cultures, RIFT, Forsaken World, Allodds

  • illyanaillyana Member UncommonPosts: 614

    TSW is a half baked cake:
    incredible environments but character customization is very limited
    flexible skill system but combat animation is not impressive
    you can wear what you want but there is no dye system
    good job on voice acting but good Lord, my character doesnt talk at all
    fun 3 faction pvp but it's clone wars in Fusang

    Bioware can be understood for the mess that was SWTOR because it was their 1st foray into MMO but this is not Funcom's first time. most of TSWs faults are standard features in most MMOs

    And fans of TSW is too forgiving of TSW's faults, willing to give them money every month, in the hope that they will fix this bug or add this feature in the future.

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  • tank017tank017 Member Posts: 2,192
    Originally posted by wireyankee

    Good honest review. I agree with you. Their is no excuse for gameplay to be this poor in 2012. Games like WoW, and CoH's have been out for years with better graphics and gameplay.

     

    I like TSW,barring an 'AoC Effect',I think it'll do well.The combat could be better than it is, but I don't think its a game breaker.To the quote above, not sure how WoW's or CoH's graphics are better in any way than TSW..scratching my head on that one.
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