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Help with new Vid Card and Power Supply
oakthornn
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Hello,
I just purchased, The Secret World... Unfortunately, my video card just falls short of the minimum requirements..
I have a GeForce 8800 GTS, and minimum requirement is the 8800 GTS 512 version.. I'm also running a Antec 550 Watt PSU..
The recommended Vid Card is a Nvidia GTX 460 with 1024 VRAM..
I don't want to spend more than like 250 max, hopefully with an upgraded PSU as well... I see combo deals on Newegg like this,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.998087
Or is my Antec 550 Watt PSU strong enough to run the 560 Ti series?
Thoughts and suggestions from the experts will be much appreciated.
Thank you!!
Rallithon Oakthornn
(Retired Heirophant of the 60th season)
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The PSU should be ok tbh.. But i can recommend Corsair HX or TX series.
You will get a good card for the bucks in the geforce gtx 560 TI or Radeon 7850. >Both very good cards for a good price.
A 550 Watt power supply should be fine for a single Video card system. You should be able to get a number of good cards for that price.
I like Passmarks Video card benchmarks site because the numbers are submitted by real users.
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
Just pick a card in your price range that you like.
Edit. I have the 560TI 2GB and I do like it. I can run TSW fairly high quality.
check your PM:)
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Anyway depends on where you live. I always go AMD because nvidias are ridiculously over priced in the UK. E.g. a 7870 is cheaper than a 570gtx here but is at same performance point of a 580gtx.
says he lives in NJ in his profile so assuming US $
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
may i suggest an 7850, your power supply should be enough to keep up with that card and it runs the game just perfect. With the right kind of CPU.
not knowing your CPU tough makes it much harder to advise somehting like this.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
Graphics cards don't seem to be the porblem for me, the biggest problem is trying to run in on a 32 bit operating system. It keeps crashing all the time. Yes I know they advise Windows 7 64 bit, but to be honest the graphics aren't that amazing and not better than AoC so i'm struggling to understand where all the memory is going. There were posts about this on the TSW forums during beta but i'm not sure if it's still a problem for most.
I seem to remember lack of memory errors early on in AoC as well. Oh well, i'll just have to buy Windows 7 64 bit I suppose...
Exactly which power supply do you have (e.g., Basiq, Neo Eco, TruePower New, High Current Gamer, etc.)? Antec doesn't put fake wattage ratings on their power supplies, so it's highly probable that yours could have handled 550 W when new. But if it's ancient by now and not built to handle a modern rail distribution, that could be a problem.
If your old video card and case can handle it, then this is about as fast of a video card as you'll get on a $250 budget:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150617
One of the best looking games I have ever seen. The lighting and set pieces/environments is jaw dropping at points.
Thanks for all the responses!
First, my PSU is an Antec, 550 Watt Truepower 2.0.. Model: TP2550EPS12V.. It's been running like a champ for 6 years now. :P And It's honestly been the best PSU I've ever purchased.. Hopefully it will be able to handle the 560 TI, but I hear some or pretty much most of the newer cards now need a PSU with two of those 6 prong connectors to run? Mine I believe only has one..
Oh, and suprisingly I was able to run TSW for about 3 hours shortly after rebooting with pretty much no problems, other than a little lag.. But on the character select screen it does say my pc doesn't meet the minimum requirements,, but it's only off by less than 200mb of video ram.. So for now it runs and even on low settings with a LCD 24 inch samsung monitor running at 1980x1024 looks awesome!
Rallithon Oakthornn
(Retired Heirophant of the 60th season)
I was running i5 2500k with 8 gigs, 2 HDD and ATI 6850 for a few months on 3-4 year old 430w Termaltake PSU, so I'm pretty sure you should be ok with 550w Antec.
Thing to watch out for when using new video cards with older PSU are the power connectors for the card. The older PSU may not have them. Mine didn't, however the 6850 came with Molex (which is what you plug into old IDE style HDDs) to the 4 or 6 pin adapter.
I picked up a 550 TI with 2gb of vram recently for like $150... EVGA.
Great value for the money, imo.
If you have $250 to spend I would advise waiting for the GTX 660 and the 660ti to come out this month. The regular 660 is rumored to be around $200-250, and will have very good price/performance. They will both run on a 550W PSU.
Antek is old but good, I wouldn´t want to run a 680 on it. A 560 should be fine though. The model do matter but I am pretty sure it will work fine anyways.
The tip for TSW is that FunComs engine works better for Nvidia cards and 64 bits OSes (other engines do better with ATI, it varies from engine to engine). If you want to buy a card for TSW a 560 GTX (or 460 if you get it cheap) is your best option without changing PSU at your current budget.
Good luck.
Not really, the 560 performs a lot better even if you consider bang for the buck.
To the OP...please please listen to this. I SAY AGAIN please please listen to this. I will take out all the reading and investigating for you. I read benchmarks/spec websites daily as one its my hobby and two...it's my job. You PSU is more then enough to run your system. One single card does not draw that much power. The only exceptions are the top of the line cards. Only specific ones at the. The GTX 480 and GTX 580 are know to be power hogs, but the GTX 680 uses a smaller GPU (so requires less wattages to run).
First off, your 8800 while old was amazing for it's time. So I would just suggest you use that for now. The GTX 660 or 660Ti is going to be able to destroy this game for the budget minded gamer. The BIGGEST reason why is the power for tesselation. THAT is key in this game. While the 600 series cards only offer 20--40 FPS more then the 500 series card counterparts for most games....in this game it MAKES A LOT more of a difference. There are only a few games that support tesselation and TSW is one of them. The processing power of the 600 series cards over the 500 series cards for tesselation is about 40% better. What this means in game is not only will you get 20-40 better FPS but you will get better performance in high tesslation areas (mainly...faction cities and so on).
Be patient and do not regret your purchase. The 560Ti has been out for awhile. Being able to purchase the 660 the week it drops and KNOW that your setup for your game for a long time...will make you feel A lot better. I would also purchase on of the factory overclocked card version when you do purchase it. The extra 15 bucks will give you a decent boost for the price. Also if you are not amazing with computers, having a stable overclock is nice to have.
As a final note....what type of processor and ram do you use. Only reason I ask this if you are useing a CPU that has no chance of pushing one of these cards....my comments above are pointless.
Hope that helped!
Disagree with this. Best option is to wait about 3 weeks when Nvidia releases the 660. The secret world is going to Support TXAA and tesslation and other cutting edge technolgies. BUT only the 600 series cards support most of these features (TXAA and GPU boost). Why buy something now that doesnt support this game fully when you can purchase something a lot better for his budget that supports everything.
It literally is the only winning solution to just wait.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=22
Rather dated, but probably not a danger to your parts. The voltage regulation and ripple suppression are reasonably good even by today's standards, and those are the things that can kill hardware if they're bad. It's only rated at 36 A (432 W) on the +12 V rails, and power supplies do tend to lose some capability as they age. A GeForce GTX 560 Ti would be pushing it, and I'd advise against that.
Fortunately, if you want that level of performance, you can actually get something faster with much less power consumption in a Radeon HD 7850:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150617
Should you replace your power supply? It's awfully inefficient, and they aren't meant to last forever. If you got six good years out of it, that's pretty good, and I'd probably replace it by something more modern--and without the wear and tear on it.
That's actually a remarkably bad value for the money. You could have gotten something about 40% faster for much cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600286767%20600298539&IsNodeId=1&name=Radeon%20HD%207770%20GHz%20Edition
And yes, I'm linking a whole page of cards, not just one, since they're all dramatically faster than what you got, and most of them are a lot cheaper, too.
If you want to protest that there's a difference between 1 GB and 2 GB, then save your breath. The GPU isn't fast enough to handle situations that would put 2 GB of video memory to good use.
Higher end Fermi cards already had vastly more tesselation power than any real games could make use of. If Kepler increased that further (which I'm skeptical of), then that's a stupid waste of die space on Nvidia's part. A GeForce GTX 560 Ti, for example, had 8 tessellators (part of the polymorph engines), while a Radeon HD 5870 had one. Synthetic benchmarks could tell that there was a huge difference in tessellation power, but real games couldn't.
The GeForce GTX 660 was also rumored to launch in May, and it didn't happen then, either. The GTX 660 rumors that I've seen look pretty much like people making things up that seem to make sense, not credible leaks. Rumors so far aren't even converging on whether the GTX 660 will use a further cut down GK104 chip or a brand new GK106 chip.
But even if we knew for an absolute fact that the GTX 660 was going to launch in a week or two (which we certainly don't), I wouldn't see any reason to wait. There's no reason to believe that it will beat Pitcairn-based cards (Radeon HD 7850 and 7870) that you can buy today in either performance per watt or performance per dollar. Indeed, if it's a further cut down GK104, it will probably lose rather badly in performance per dollar to a Radeon HD 7870.
The 560Ti will be more than enough for any of the games coming out this year. Your power supply is fine.
What happens when you log off your characters????.....
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This is the PSU I have,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817103932
Apparantely, It does have two 6 prong connectors. I could only see one in my system, but I didn't look very good I guess.
Umm, My pc is a
AMD 64 Athlon X2 4600,, 2.41 Ghz
4 gigs of Ram
Asus M2N 570 deluxe Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16813131013
This was pretty much beastly in 2006
.. I had this machine built initially to run Vanguard at high settings, with the 8800GTS. It did the job quite nicely and until now I've never had any trouble playing any game on high settings.. It's as If TSW broke the barrier with normal graphical requirements since 2006..
Rallithon Oakthornn
(Retired Heirophant of the 60th season)
And it was a nice computer--six years ago. But that means everything in it is six years old now, so you're probably better off looking at replacing it than upgrading it.