Originally posted by Kjarl I tried the beta, or I tried to try the beta rather. Game lagged to death, graphics were something out of a 5 year old's paint class. I cant belive they are still thinking of releasing this game, if it was a free download with a 5 year free subscription I still wouldnt waste the space on my hard drive for it.
Dude I tried to tell you when you posted last time how to fix the FPS issues, it's by turning view distance to 2k or under if you have a decent system or 1k or under if your system sucks. Doing that alone makes the frame rate go through the roof and the graphics are already better than more than half the games available right now, and once they are done they are gonna compete with the big titles. Anyone who spent 10 seconds in the beta testing forums would be able to figure out how to make it not lag at all.
Originally posted by Krom44 Originally posted by kisheOriginally posted by PeashooterIt's mantra is: "It's ready when it's ready. So stop asking."I actually respect them more for that rather than if they'd make half arsed release. Even DnL has been delayed several times now...nothing new here, move on. Yes, that is true about DnL. But let us all look at the current hype information shall we? Irth Online with 403 VOTES it has a 5.3 HYPE Dark & Light with 2467 VOTES it has a 7.2 HYPE
Neither game has been released so it really doesn't matter now, does it? There is also a key difference: People are able to play and mess with Irth... they are not able to see the condition of D&L since they can't play it. Thus they aren't having any illusions they may have about the game dispelled.
Hype is always higher when it's only based on what you read rather than what you can experience.
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You piss and moan and gripe when a game is released half done and needs months of patching to even be reasonably playable, you complain when a game attempting to be complete pushes back its release dates. What on earth does it take to make some of you happy? For crying out loud which do you prefer a later release date on a game do it can be released right? Or another crap unfinished product shoved out on the shelf to try and scalp people for as much money as possible?
Originally posted by anarchyart The graphics are already better than more than half the games available right now, and once they are done they are gonna compete with the big titles.
Anarchy I agree with everything you said except this. I've played the beta, I'm still in it. I have seen the graphics on max settings and they're just not impressive at all. DAOC has better graphics, IMO and its over 2 years old. SWG, over 2 years old. AO over 2 years old. Ryzom blows it away. EQ2 blows it away. WOW blows it away. GuildWars blows it away.
The environment graphics aren't "bad" but I would hardly call them "better than more than half the games available". They're "adequate" and the character graphics are abyssmal and the animation is even worse. I'm not a huge graphics buff myself. Typically if a game is good enough the graphics don't phase me. But Irth's graphics really pull me out of the game because they're so screwy.
I am glad they are postponing release because right now this game is nowhere near ready to ship. I hope they get the issues worked out and they REALLY need to take a long hard look at the character models and graphics because right now my 10 year old could outdo them for quality using crayons. (Yes I know, that's an over-exaggeration).
As far as having to "tweak settings" to resolve lag issues? I'm sorry.... I can play EQ2 on MAXIMUM settings and get better performance than I can on IRTH. They have performance issues. Yes there are ways to minimize t heir performance issues but you shouldn't have to do THAT much to make the game *playable*. In my opinion.
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Originally posted by Elnator Originally posted by anarchyart The graphics are already better than more than half the games available right now, and once they are done they are gonna compete with the big titles.
Anarchy I agree with everything you said except this. I've played the beta, I'm still in it. I have seen the graphics on max settings and they're just not impressive at all. DAOC has better graphics, IMO and its over 2 years old. SWG, over 2 years old. AO over 2 years old. Ryzom blows it away. EQ2 blows it away. WOW blows it away. GuildWars blows it away.
The environment graphics aren't "bad" but I would hardly call them "better than more than half the games available". They're "adequate" and the character graphics are abyssmal and the animation is even worse. I'm not a huge graphics buff myself. Typically if a game is good enough the graphics don't phase me. But Irth's graphics really pull me out of the game because they're so screwy.
I am glad they are postponing release because right now this game is nowhere near ready to ship. I hope they get the issues worked out and they REALLY need to take a long hard look at the character models and graphics because right now my 10 year old could outdo them for quality using crayons. (Yes I know, that's an over-exaggeration).
As far as having to "tweak settings" to resolve lag issues? I'm sorry.... I can play EQ2 on MAXIMUM settings and get better performance than I can on IRTH. They have performance issues. Yes there are ways to minimize t heir performance issues but you shouldn't have to do THAT much to make the game *playable*. In my opinion.
The lag issue is real and the devs aknoweledge that...This is one of the issues that caused this delay and they have sworn to fix this problem before they launch and has reserved right to delay as many times as needed to fix it.
They want the game to be playable before they release, I'd understand your gripes if this game would have been in development for over 5 years but the first beta did come less than a year ago...so personally I cheer at them for every delay I see.
Originally posted by kishe Originally posted by Elnator Originally posted by anarchyart The graphics are already better than more than half the games available right now, and once they are done they are gonna compete with the big titles.
Anarchy I agree with everything you said except this. I've played the beta, I'm still in it. I have seen the graphics on max settings and they're just not impressive at all. DAOC has better graphics, IMO and its over 2 years old. SWG, over 2 years old. AO over 2 years old. Ryzom blows it away. EQ2 blows it away. WOW blows it away. GuildWars blows it away.
The environment graphics aren't "bad" but I would hardly call them "better than more than half the games available". They're "adequate" and the character graphics are abyssmal and the animation is even worse. I'm not a huge graphics buff myself. Typically if a game is good enough the graphics don't phase me. But Irth's graphics really pull me out of the game because they're so screwy.
I am glad they are postponing release because right now this game is nowhere near ready to ship. I hope they get the issues worked out and they REALLY need to take a long hard look at the character models and graphics because right now my 10 year old could outdo them for quality using crayons. (Yes I know, that's an over-exaggeration).
As far as having to "tweak settings" to resolve lag issues? I'm sorry.... I can play EQ2 on MAXIMUM settings and get better performance than I can on IRTH. They have performance issues. Yes there are ways to minimize t heir performance issues but you shouldn't have to do THAT much to make the game *playable*. In my opinion.
The lag issue is real and the devs aknoweledge that...This is one of the issues that caused this delay and they have sworn to fix this problem before they launch and has reserved right to delay as many times as needed to fix it.
They want the game to be playable before they release, I'd understand your gripes if this game would have been in development for over 5 years but the first beta did come less than a year ago...so personally I cheer at them for every delay I see.
Where did you get the idea that I wasn't agreeing with you? I have posted multiple times that I am glad they delayed and I'm not criticizing them for delaying. Take off your blinders and acknowledge that the game has issues and stop thinking that everyone who posts about it hates it.
I think the game has a great deal of potential but it DOES have issues currently. And Anarchy is wearing rose colored glasses as far as I'm concerned. That was why I responded to his post. He comes off making it sound like he feels the games performance issues are the player's fault and they are most certainly not. As to how long irth has been in development? It's been in development for over 2 years now. I think concerns about quality when they're already trying to announce release dates are valid. Granted they're pushing back and sliding them but announcing a release date was foolish in the first place. It was obvious to ANYONE who spent more than 30 seconds in the game that it isn't ready for release and won't be for quite some time.
Furthermore his post states that the graphics are better than "over half the games out there" I dissagree. Titles that were out before this game even went into development have superior graphics at this point. I don't even think the static "world" graphics are all that impressive at this point. Ryzom's environmental graphics make this game look pedestrian, and it's been out since last year. DAOC's graphics are COMPARABLE and it's been out over 3 years (actually 4 at this point I think?). SWG's graphics are superior and it's been out over 2 years.
I'm not saying it's a bad game. All I'm saying is Anarchy comes across as if Irth is the greatest thing since sliced bread and the 'problems' are in the 'eye of the beholder'. To an extent yes they are. But the graphics are not as good as he makes them out to be and the performance issues are REAL and acknowledged by the developers themselves. Poo-pooing another poster for pointing out the performance issues is silly when the devs themselves have acknowledged that the performance problems are a major issue.
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Originally posted by Elnator Originally posted by kishe Originally posted by Elnator Originally posted by anarchyart The graphics are already better than more than half the games available right now, and once they are done they are gonna compete with the big titles.
Anarchy I agree with everything you said except this. I've played the beta, I'm still in it. I have seen the graphics on max settings and they're just not impressive at all. DAOC has better graphics, IMO and its over 2 years old. SWG, over 2 years old. AO over 2 years old. Ryzom blows it away. EQ2 blows it away. WOW blows it away. GuildWars blows it away.
The environment graphics aren't "bad" but I would hardly call them "better than more than half the games available". They're "adequate" and the character graphics are abyssmal and the animation is even worse. I'm not a huge graphics buff myself. Typically if a game is good enough the graphics don't phase me. But Irth's graphics really pull me out of the game because they're so screwy.
I am glad they are postponing release because right now this game is nowhere near ready to ship. I hope they get the issues worked out and they REALLY need to take a long hard look at the character models and graphics because right now my 10 year old could outdo them for quality using crayons. (Yes I know, that's an over-exaggeration).
As far as having to "tweak settings" to resolve lag issues? I'm sorry.... I can play EQ2 on MAXIMUM settings and get better performance than I can on IRTH. They have performance issues. Yes there are ways to minimize t heir performance issues but you shouldn't have to do THAT much to make the game *playable*. In my opinion.
The lag issue is real and the devs aknoweledge that...This is one of the issues that caused this delay and they have sworn to fix this problem before they launch and has reserved right to delay as many times as needed to fix it.
They want the game to be playable before they release, I'd understand your gripes if this game would have been in development for over 5 years but the first beta did come less than a year ago...so personally I cheer at them for every delay I see.
Where did you get the idea that I wasn't agreeing with you? I have posted multiple times that I am glad they delayed and I'm not criticizing them for delaying. Take off your blinders and acknowledge that the game has issues and stop thinking that everyone who posts about it hates it.
I think the game has a great deal of potential but it DOES have issues currently. And Anarchy is wearing rose colored glasses as far as I'm concerned. That was why I responded to his post. He comes off making it sound like he feels the games performance issues are the player's fault and they are most certainly not. As to how long irth has been in development? It's been in development for over 2 years now. I think concerns about quality when they're already trying to announce release dates are valid. Granted they're pushing back and sliding them but announcing a release date was foolish in the first place. It was obvious to ANYONE who spent more than 30 seconds in the game that it isn't ready for release and won't be for quite some time.
Furthermore his post states that the graphics are better than "over half the games out there" I dissagree. Titles that were out before this game even went into development have superior graphics at this point. I don't even think the static "world" graphics are all that impressive at this point. Ryzom's environmental graphics make this game look pedestrian, and it's been out since last year. DAOC's graphics are COMPARABLE and it's been out over 3 years (actually 4 at this point I think?). SWG's graphics are superior and it's been out over 2 years.
I'm not saying it's a bad game. All I'm saying is Anarchy comes across as if Irth is the greatest thing since sliced bread and the 'problems' are in the 'eye of the beholder'. To an extent yes they are. But the graphics are not as good as he makes them out to be and the performance issues are REAL and acknowledged by the developers themselves. Poo-pooing another poster for pointing out the performance issues is silly when the devs themselves have acknowledged that the performance problems are a major issue.
the first part was ment for you...second for others...
Originally posted by iveria18 honestly i havent try this game yet.....whats good about this Irth Online??? is it interesting? or is it woth ur time?
Give it six more months and then it might be "interesting" for those who are not diehard fans. This game needs a lot of work and I might give it another chance in 2006, probably when it will truly be released.
Originally posted by kishe [quote]Originally posted by Peashooter [b] Originally posted by spydermr2 Tried to try. Sent in to get a key, it never came; emailed to ask, never got a reply. Downloaded the game just in case, tripped my virus scanner as a virus. Nice. Frightening.
Some guy earlier tried to warn everyone about viruses from downloading the Irth Beta, but then the Irth devs came on to deny everything and threatened lawsuits against anyone who mentions that he got a virus from downloading the Irth Beta. Here's the thread:
He doesn't like people making disparaging remarks, so he threatens lawsuits.
And if Specusci isn't a dev, why is he threatening a lawsuit? Hmmmm, is it a coincidence that Specusci and Damian seems to pop up at the same time? Could Damian be making multiple accounts?
Read that second link. It's pretty funny. Your calm, cool, and collected Damian blows a gasket and makes a buffoon of himself. He's pretending to be a lawyer and makes some funny lawyer-like claims. And he's using an estate-planning lawyer to do his IP lawsuit threats. There's more, but I won't ruin it for you. Just read it for a good laugh.
Damian doesn't care enough to threaten a lawsuit? He threatens lawsuits at a drop of a hat. Check out these two threads: http://www.runuo.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-33089 http://www.emuresource.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=685&sid=ac0a7921fb3fa1a15f6a67d619966253 He doesn't like people making disparaging remarks, so he threatens lawsuits. And if Specusci isn't a dev, why is he threatening a lawsuit? Hmmmm, is it a coincidence that Specusci and Damian seems to pop up at the same time? Could Damian be making multiple accounts? Read that second link. It's pretty funny. Your calm, cool, and collected Damian blows a gasket and makes a buffoon of himself. He's pretending to be a lawyer and makes some funny lawyer-like claims. And he's using an estate-planning lawyer to do his IP lawsuit threats. There's more, but I won't ruin it for you. Just read it for a good laugh.
Lol, owned
hahha
Anyone starting to see the behavioral similarities of these guys to the guys that made Mourning?
Hmmm, I wonder if they are going to threaten me with a lawsuit....
Originally posted by Elnator Where did you get the idea that I wasn't agreeing with you? I have posted multiple times that I am glad they delayed and I'm not criticizing them for delaying. Take off your blinders and acknowledge that the game has issues and stop thinking that everyone who posts about it hates it. I think the game has a great deal of potential but it DOES have issues currently. And Anarchy is wearing rose colored glasses as far as I'm concerned. That was why I responded to his post. He comes off making it sound like he feels the games performance issues are the player's fault and they are most certainly not. As to how long irth has been in development? It's been in development for over 2 years now. I think concerns about quality when they're already trying to announce release dates are valid. Granted they're pushing back and sliding them but announcing a release date was foolish in the first place. It was obvious to ANYONE who spent more than 30 seconds in the game that it isn't ready for release and won't be for quite some time. Furthermore his post states that the graphics are better than "over half the games out there" I dissagree. Titles that were out before this game even went into development have superior graphics at this point. I don't even think the static "world" graphics are all that impressive at this point. Ryzom's environmental graphics make this game look pedestrian, and it's been out since last year. DAOC's graphics are COMPARABLE and it's been out over 3 years (actually 4 at this point I think?). SWG's graphics are superior and it's been out over 2 years. I'm not saying it's a bad game. All I'm saying is Anarchy comes across as if Irth is the greatest thing since sliced bread and the 'problems' are in the 'eye of the beholder'. To an extent yes they are. But the graphics are not as good as he makes them out to be and the performance issues are REAL and acknowledged by the developers themselves. Poo-pooing another poster for pointing out the performance issues is silly when the devs themselves have acknowledged that the performance problems are a major issue.
Not sure what got your titties in such a twist Elnator but let me explain myself more.
First off, the water in Irth Onlnie makes WoW's water look like it was drawn with a set of crayolas. The bump mapping is just as refined if not more so than EQ2. Overall I agree with you that WoW and EQ2 and SWG blow it out of the water but it isn't finished yet. If the entire game looked as good as SOME of the elements that are currently in the game, the graphics would be top 3.
There are some parts that are laggier than they should be, but if you set the view distance to 2k or under (good system) or 1k or under (not so good) and turn off names and set shadows to 1 (shadows are always a memory killer, more so in Irth) then the lag COMPLETELY dissappears.
My post was in response to Kjarl who totally bashed the performance, when in another thread, I had already posted a fix to his lag concerns which he either didn't see or totally ignored.
I get a little peeved when someone "Beta"'s a game and then doesn't take the time to actually "Beta" the game; posting on the beta forums about their problems and letting someone help them. His problem was my problem on day 1: a problem that was fixed in about 2 minutes by one of the Irth devs. Incidentally, a more open minded group of developers you will not find. I have changed the world of Irth Online in meaningful ways with my efforts in beta testing. I'll tell you just how when the game releases.
So anyone who gets the major lag issue HERE IS THE FIX: For good systems turn the view distance to 2k or less, shadows and water to 2 or less. For less then superb systems turn the view distance to 1k, shadows and water down to 1 and turn off names. None of which affects the gameplay AT ALL and completely dissolves any lag issue.
Damian doesn't care enough to threaten a lawsuit? He threatens lawsuits at a drop of a hat. Check out these two threads: http://www.runuo.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-33089 http://www.emuresource.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=685&sid=ac0a7921fb3fa1a15f6a67d619966253 He doesn't like people making disparaging remarks, so he threatens lawsuits. And if Specusci isn't a dev, why is he threatening a lawsuit? Hmmmm, is it a coincidence that Specusci and Damian seems to pop up at the same time? Could Damian be making multiple accounts? Read that second link. It's pretty funny. Your calm, cool, and collected Damian blows a gasket and makes a buffoon of himself. He's pretending to be a lawyer and makes some funny lawyer-like claims. And he's using an estate-planning lawyer to do his IP lawsuit threats. There's more, but I won't ruin it for you. Just read it for a good laugh.
Lol, owned
hahha
Anyone starting to see the behavioral similarities of these guys to the guys that made Mourning?
Hmmm, I wonder if they are going to threaten me with a lawsuit....
The first link points to some sort of legal thing saying someone is making disparaging remarks, understandable why someone would want this to cease and desist. The second link returns an error.
The first link points to some sort of legal thing saying someone is making disparaging remarks, understandable why someone would want this to cease and desist. The second link returns an error.
owned
hahha
That second link works. You just need to change your settings. If you set the view distance to 2k or under and turn off names and set shadows to 1 and lower your resolution to 640 x 480 and turn your audio to 1 and dim all your lights to 5 watts and switch from Windows XP to DOS, then the error COMPLETELY dissappears.
Originally posted by kishe [quote]Originally posted by Peashooter[b] Originally posted by spydermr2 Tried to try. Sent in to get a key, it never came; emailed to ask, never got a reply. Downloaded the game just in case, tripped my virus scanner as a virus. Nice. Frightening. Some guy earlier tried to warn everyone about viruses from downloading the Irth Beta, but then the Irth devs came on to deny everything and threatened lawsuits against anyone who mentions that he got a virus from downloading the Irth Beta. Here's the thread:[url=http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion.cfm?load=forums&loadClass=35&loadForum=51&loadThread=49863][/b][/quote] Specusci isn't a dev...and damian said he doesnt care enough...
Damian doesn't care enough to threaten a lawsuit? He threatens lawsuits at a drop of a hat. Check out these two threads: [url=http://www.runuo.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-33089] [url=http://www.emuresource.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=685&sid=ac0a7921fb3fa1a15f6a67d619966253] He doesn't like people making disparaging remarks, so he threatens lawsuits. And if Specusci isn't a dev, why is he threatening a lawsuit? Hmmmm, is it a coincidence that Specusci and Damian seems to pop up at the same time? Could Damian be making multiple accounts? Read that second link. It's pretty funny. Your calm, cool, and collected Damian blows a gasket and makes a buffoon of himself. He's pretending to be a lawyer and makes some funny lawyer-like claims. And he's using an estate-planning lawyer to do his IP lawsuit threats. There's more, but I won't ruin it for you. Just read it for a good laugh. [/b][/quote]
first link...cant see anything wrong with that...
Mythic Entertainment vs Mythica Microsoft vs Lindows
Every company seems quite careful on this...
and second one...
Yes it's amusing...people taunting Damian for him to not want people starting to make Spheres of their own?
commercial product can hold GPL covered code in it as long as it's documented.
As Example Redhat software has kept it's linux distribution as commercial for quite some time now and hasn't published complete sources of their operating system. the GPL parts have their source freely available while code directly coded by Redhat is closed and private..same can be said about Suse.
GPL based code can be used seamlessly with commercial products without need of turning the commercial product free.
I don't blame Damian getting frustraded for trying to teach the dog that the tail the dog's chasing is its own :P
and about Specusci, no he's not damian...unless Damian's seeing whole lot trouble by multitasking two irc clients and chatting with different people on both on same time while routing the other client 100 miles away from another
Damian doesn't care enough to threaten a lawsuit? He threatens lawsuits at a drop of a hat. Check out these two threads:[url=http://www.runuo.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-33089][url=http://www.emuresource.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=685&sid=ac0a7921fb3fa1a15f6a67d619966253]He doesn't like people making disparaging remarks, so he threatens lawsuits.And if Specusci isn't a dev, why is he threatening a lawsuit? Hmmmm, is it a coincidence that Specusci and Damian seems to pop up at the same time? Could Damian be making multiple accounts?Read that second link. It's pretty funny. Your calm, cool, and collected Damian blows a gasket and makes a buffoon of himself. He's pretending to be a lawyer and makes some funny lawyer-like claims. And he's using an estate-planning lawyer to do his IP lawsuit threats. There's more, but I won't ruin it for you. Just read it for a good laugh.
Lol, owned hahha Anyone starting to see the behavioral similarities of these guys to the guys that made Mourning? Hmmm, I wonder if they are going to threaten me with a lawsuit....
The first link points to some sort of legal thing saying someone is making disparaging remarks, understandable why someone would want this to cease and desist. The second link returns an error. owned hahha[/b][/quote]
read before you post man, its getting annoying, you are just responding to respond
Originally posted by disstress [quote]Originally posted by anarchyart [b] Originally posted by disstress
Damian doesn't care enough to threaten a lawsuit? He threatens lawsuits at a drop of a hat. Check out these two threads:[url=http://www.runuo.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-33089][url=http://www.emuresource.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=685&sid=ac0a7921fb3fa1a15f6a67d619966253]He doesn't like people making disparaging remarks, so he threatens lawsuits.And if Specusci isn't a dev, why is he threatening a lawsuit? Hmmmm, is it a coincidence that Specusci and Damian seems to pop up at the same time? Could Damian be making multiple accounts?Read that second link. It's pretty funny. Your calm, cool, and collected Damian blows a gasket and makes a buffoon of himself. He's pretending to be a lawyer and makes some funny lawyer-like claims. And he's using an estate-planning lawyer to do his IP lawsuit threats. There's more, but I won't ruin it for you. Just read it for a good laugh.
Lol, owned hahha Anyone starting to see the behavioral similarities of these guys to the guys that made Mourning? Hmmm, I wonder if they are going to threaten me with a lawsuit....
The first link points to some sort of legal thing saying someone is making disparaging remarks, understandable why someone would want this to cease and desist. The second link returns an error. owned hahha[/b][/quote]
read before you post man, its getting annoying, you are just responding to respond
I did read homey, and as I said the second link now has an error. The first link goes to some legal document which isn't funny in anyway.
Originally posted by anarchyart The first link points to some sort of legal thing saying someone is making disparaging remarks, understandable why someone would want this to cease and desist. The second link returns an error. owned hahha
The second link isn't broken, its a thread about Damians UO emu project. I just tried them both and they both work.
And the legal doc is from an estate planner, you know a guy that makes wills not someone in a position to sue, especially over the context of the threat
To me that sounds like Damian is the only adult on that entire website. When they say he blows his cool, it sounds more to me like he is talking like an adult to a bunch of 12 year olds. The more I read of the attitudes of the cheap bastards on that site who can't afford to play and pay for a game so they steal someone elses code and emulate it, the more I appreciate THIS site and its moderators who defend the people who are right and ban the bedwetters.
Originally posted by anarchyartTo me that sounds like Damian is the only adult on that entire website. When they say he blows his cool, it sounds more to me like he is talking like an adult to a bunch of 12 year olds. The more I read of the attitudes of the cheap bastards on that site who can't afford to play and pay for a game so they steal someone elses code and emulate it, the more I appreciate THIS site and its moderators who defend the people who are right and ban the bedwetters. hahha
You have no idea what those guys were talking about do you?
I couldnt play it for more then 20 minutes cause the UI and the controls where so terrible. But as a good tester I reported it. Here was my report:
"This game is never going to do well you should just give up now. Your using a generic theme, and I literally cannot play the game. The controls are excessively buggy that I cannot even get out of the first room. I really dont see why the system requirements are so high with the puke graphics this game offers. You should just give up and quit."
Originally posted by Cleffy I played Irth Online before I couldnt play it for more then 20 minutes cause the UI and the controls where so terrible. But as a good tester I reported it. Here was my report: "This game is never going to do well you should just give up now. Your using a generic theme, and I literally cannot play the game. The controls are excessively buggy that I cannot even get out of the first room. I really dont see why the system requirements are so high with the puke graphics this game offers. You should just give up and quit."
Good honest opinion.
But watch out. Irth Online considers this a disparaging remark. They threaten lawsuits for disparaging remarks. Here's just two incidents that reveal their MO.
Originally posted by anarchyart Originally posted by Elnator Where did you get the idea that I wasn't agreeing with you? I have posted multiple times that I am glad they delayed and I'm not criticizing them for delaying. Take off your blinders and acknowledge that the game has issues and stop thinking that everyone who posts about it hates it. I think the game has a great deal of potential but it DOES have issues currently. And Anarchy is wearing rose colored glasses as far as I'm concerned. That was why I responded to his post. He comes off making it sound like he feels the games performance issues are the player's fault and they are most certainly not. As to how long irth has been in development? It's been in development for over 2 years now. I think concerns about quality when they're already trying to announce release dates are valid. Granted they're pushing back and sliding them but announcing a release date was foolish in the first place. It was obvious to ANYONE who spent more than 30 seconds in the game that it isn't ready for release and won't be for quite some time. Furthermore his post states that the graphics are better than "over half the games out there" I dissagree. Titles that were out before this game even went into development have superior graphics at this point. I don't even think the static "world" graphics are all that impressive at this point. Ryzom's environmental graphics make this game look pedestrian, and it's been out since last year. DAOC's graphics are COMPARABLE and it's been out over 3 years (actually 4 at this point I think?). SWG's graphics are superior and it's been out over 2 years. I'm not saying it's a bad game. All I'm saying is Anarchy comes across as if Irth is the greatest thing since sliced bread and the 'problems' are in the 'eye of the beholder'. To an extent yes they are. But the graphics are not as good as he makes them out to be and the performance issues are REAL and acknowledged by the developers themselves. Poo-pooing another poster for pointing out the performance issues is silly when the devs themselves have acknowledged that the performance problems are a major issue. Not sure what got your titties in such a twist Elnator but let me explain myself more. First off, the water in Irth Onlnie makes WoW's water look like it was drawn with a set of crayolas. The bump mapping is just as refined if not more so than EQ2. Overall I agree with you that WoW and EQ2 and SWG blow it out of the water but it isn't finished yet. If the entire game looked as good as SOME of the elements that are currently in the game, the graphics would be top 3. There are some parts that are laggier than they should be, but if you set the view distance to 2k or under (good system) or 1k or under (not so good) and turn off names and set shadows to 1 (shadows are always a memory killer, more so in Irth) then the lag COMPLETELY dissappears. My post was in response to Kjarl who totally bashed the performance, when in another thread, I had already posted a fix to his lag concerns which he either didn't see or totally ignored. I get a little peeved when someone "Beta"'s a game and then doesn't take the time to actually "Beta" the game; posting on the beta forums about their problems and letting someone help them. His problem was my problem on day 1: a problem that was fixed in about 2 minutes by one of the Irth devs. Incidentally, a more open minded group of developers you will not find. I have changed the world of Irth Online in meaningful ways with my efforts in beta testing. I'll tell you just how when the game releases. So anyone who gets the major lag issue HERE IS THE FIX: For good systems turn the view distance to 2k or less, shadows and water to 2 or less. For less then superb systems turn the view distance to 1k, shadows and water down to 1 and turn off names. None of which affects the gameplay AT ALL and completely dissolves any lag issue.
Love your terminology there Anarchy...
Let me put it this way. Claiming the graphics are better than most games out there when they clearly are not is silly. They have the POTENTIAL to be that good but right now that's all it is, potential. I have learned a policy after over 20 years of beta testing various video games, MMO's and various other software (I used to do it for a living): Never believe the potential till you see it and never claim as reality what is only potential.
Irth has miles and miles of POTENTIAL but if it released tomorrow it would be one of the worst MMO's on the market. That is why I said I'm glad they postponed release. It's also why I said they were idiots for even thinking about a release date at this stage of things. It's not anywhere near ready for release at this point... Yes, it's a playable beta. And people bashing a beta are silly.
But bashing the company for announcing a release date when they knew the game wasn't nearly ready isn't the same as bashing a beta. Those who bashed Irth for announcing such an unrealistic release date are perfectly valid in their flames. It WAS dumb of Irth marketting folks to try to push a release date that anyone who spent 30 seconds in game would know wouldn't work.
Also: If you BOTHERED to read my post the only thing I had a problem with was you claiming that the game *currently* has better graphics than "over half the games out there". Which it certainly does not. I didn't take issue at all to your correcting him about the performance issues. However I do think that saying there aren't performance issues is silly when you have already admitted that you have to use a work-around to make the game playable.
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Originally posted by Peashooter Originally posted by Cleffy I played Irth Online before I couldnt play it for more then 20 minutes cause the UI and the controls where so terrible. But as a good tester I reported it. Here was my report: "This game is never going to do well you should just give up now. Your using a generic theme, and I literally cannot play the game. The controls are excessively buggy that I cannot even get out of the first room. I really dont see why the system requirements are so high with the puke graphics this game offers. You should just give up and quit." Good honest opinion. But watch out. Irth Online considers this a disparaging remark. They threaten lawsuits for disparaging remarks. Here's just two incidents that reveal their MO. http://www.runuo.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-33089 http://www.emuresource.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=685&sid=ac0a7921fb3fa1a15f6a67d619966253 Read through that second link. Some one says something that Damian (Irth lead dev) doesn't like and he threatens to sue for "liable". He might also sue for "salamander". And if you neglect to remove disparaging remarks, he might sue for "n
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Neither game has been released so it really doesn't matter now, does it? There is also a key difference:
People are able to play and mess with Irth... they are not able to see the condition of D&L since they can't play it. Thus they aren't having any illusions they may have about the game dispelled.
Hype is always higher when it's only based on what you read rather than what you can experience.
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Some of you are unbelievable,
You piss and moan and gripe when a game is released half done and needs months of patching to even be reasonably playable, you complain when a game attempting to be complete pushes back its release dates. What on earth does it take to make some of you happy? For crying out loud which do you prefer a later release date on a game do it can be released right? Or another crap unfinished product shoved out on the shelf to try and scalp people for as much money as possible?
Anarchy I agree with everything you said except this. I've played the beta, I'm still in it. I have seen the graphics on max settings and they're just not impressive at all. DAOC has better graphics, IMO and its over 2 years old. SWG, over 2 years old. AO over 2 years old. Ryzom blows it away. EQ2 blows it away. WOW blows it away. GuildWars blows it away.
The environment graphics aren't "bad" but I would hardly call them "better than more than half the games available". They're "adequate" and the character graphics are abyssmal and the animation is even worse. I'm not a huge graphics buff myself. Typically if a game is good enough the graphics don't phase me. But Irth's graphics really pull me out of the game because they're so screwy.
I am glad they are postponing release because right now this game is nowhere near ready to ship. I hope they get the issues worked out and they REALLY need to take a long hard look at the character models and graphics because right now my 10 year old could outdo them for quality using crayons. (Yes I know, that's an over-exaggeration).
As far as having to "tweak settings" to resolve lag issues? I'm sorry.... I can play EQ2 on MAXIMUM settings and get better performance than I can on IRTH. They have performance issues. Yes there are ways to minimize t heir performance issues but you shouldn't have to do THAT much to make the game *playable*. In my opinion.
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Anarchy I agree with everything you said except this. I've played the beta, I'm still in it. I have seen the graphics on max settings and they're just not impressive at all. DAOC has better graphics, IMO and its over 2 years old. SWG, over 2 years old. AO over 2 years old. Ryzom blows it away. EQ2 blows it away. WOW blows it away. GuildWars blows it away.
The environment graphics aren't "bad" but I would hardly call them "better than more than half the games available". They're "adequate" and the character graphics are abyssmal and the animation is even worse. I'm not a huge graphics buff myself. Typically if a game is good enough the graphics don't phase me. But Irth's graphics really pull me out of the game because they're so screwy.
I am glad they are postponing release because right now this game is nowhere near ready to ship. I hope they get the issues worked out and they REALLY need to take a long hard look at the character models and graphics because right now my 10 year old could outdo them for quality using crayons. (Yes I know, that's an over-exaggeration).
As far as having to "tweak settings" to resolve lag issues? I'm sorry.... I can play EQ2 on MAXIMUM settings and get better performance than I can on IRTH. They have performance issues. Yes there are ways to minimize t heir performance issues but you shouldn't have to do THAT much to make the game *playable*. In my opinion.
The lag issue is real and the devs aknoweledge that...This is one of the issues that caused this delay and they have sworn to fix this problem before they launch and has reserved right to delay as many times as needed to fix it.
They want the game to be playable before they release, I'd understand your gripes if this game would have been in development for over 5 years but the first beta did come less than a year ago...so personally I cheer at them for every delay I see.
Anarchy I agree with everything you said except this. I've played the beta, I'm still in it. I have seen the graphics on max settings and they're just not impressive at all. DAOC has better graphics, IMO and its over 2 years old. SWG, over 2 years old. AO over 2 years old. Ryzom blows it away. EQ2 blows it away. WOW blows it away. GuildWars blows it away.
The environment graphics aren't "bad" but I would hardly call them "better than more than half the games available". They're "adequate" and the character graphics are abyssmal and the animation is even worse. I'm not a huge graphics buff myself. Typically if a game is good enough the graphics don't phase me. But Irth's graphics really pull me out of the game because they're so screwy.
I am glad they are postponing release because right now this game is nowhere near ready to ship. I hope they get the issues worked out and they REALLY need to take a long hard look at the character models and graphics because right now my 10 year old could outdo them for quality using crayons. (Yes I know, that's an over-exaggeration).
As far as having to "tweak settings" to resolve lag issues? I'm sorry.... I can play EQ2 on MAXIMUM settings and get better performance than I can on IRTH. They have performance issues. Yes there are ways to minimize t heir performance issues but you shouldn't have to do THAT much to make the game *playable*. In my opinion.
The lag issue is real and the devs aknoweledge that...This is one of the issues that caused this delay and they have sworn to fix this problem before they launch and has reserved right to delay as many times as needed to fix it.
They want the game to be playable before they release, I'd understand your gripes if this game would have been in development for over 5 years but the first beta did come less than a year ago...so personally I cheer at them for every delay I see.
Where did you get the idea that I wasn't agreeing with you? I have posted multiple times that I am glad they delayed and I'm not criticizing them for delaying. Take off your blinders and acknowledge that the game has issues and stop thinking that everyone who posts about it hates it.
I think the game has a great deal of potential but it DOES have issues currently. And Anarchy is wearing rose colored glasses as far as I'm concerned. That was why I responded to his post. He comes off making it sound like he feels the games performance issues are the player's fault and they are most certainly not. As to how long irth has been in development? It's been in development for over 2 years now. I think concerns about quality when they're already trying to announce release dates are valid. Granted they're pushing back and sliding them but announcing a release date was foolish in the first place. It was obvious to ANYONE who spent more than 30 seconds in the game that it isn't ready for release and won't be for quite some time.
Furthermore his post states that the graphics are better than "over half the games out there" I dissagree. Titles that were out before this game even went into development have superior graphics at this point. I don't even think the static "world" graphics are all that impressive at this point. Ryzom's environmental graphics make this game look pedestrian, and it's been out since last year. DAOC's graphics are COMPARABLE and it's been out over 3 years (actually 4 at this point I think?). SWG's graphics are superior and it's been out over 2 years.
I'm not saying it's a bad game. All I'm saying is Anarchy comes across as if Irth is the greatest thing since sliced bread and the 'problems' are in the 'eye of the beholder'. To an extent yes they are. But the graphics are not as good as he makes them out to be and the performance issues are REAL and acknowledged by the developers themselves. Poo-pooing another poster for pointing out the performance issues is silly when the devs themselves have acknowledged that the performance problems are a major issue.
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Anarchy I agree with everything you said except this. I've played the beta, I'm still in it. I have seen the graphics on max settings and they're just not impressive at all. DAOC has better graphics, IMO and its over 2 years old. SWG, over 2 years old. AO over 2 years old. Ryzom blows it away. EQ2 blows it away. WOW blows it away. GuildWars blows it away.
The environment graphics aren't "bad" but I would hardly call them "better than more than half the games available". They're "adequate" and the character graphics are abyssmal and the animation is even worse. I'm not a huge graphics buff myself. Typically if a game is good enough the graphics don't phase me. But Irth's graphics really pull me out of the game because they're so screwy.
I am glad they are postponing release because right now this game is nowhere near ready to ship. I hope they get the issues worked out and they REALLY need to take a long hard look at the character models and graphics because right now my 10 year old could outdo them for quality using crayons. (Yes I know, that's an over-exaggeration).
As far as having to "tweak settings" to resolve lag issues? I'm sorry.... I can play EQ2 on MAXIMUM settings and get better performance than I can on IRTH. They have performance issues. Yes there are ways to minimize t heir performance issues but you shouldn't have to do THAT much to make the game *playable*. In my opinion.
The lag issue is real and the devs aknoweledge that...This is one of the issues that caused this delay and they have sworn to fix this problem before they launch and has reserved right to delay as many times as needed to fix it.
They want the game to be playable before they release, I'd understand your gripes if this game would have been in development for over 5 years but the first beta did come less than a year ago...so personally I cheer at them for every delay I see.
Where did you get the idea that I wasn't agreeing with you? I have posted multiple times that I am glad they delayed and I'm not criticizing them for delaying. Take off your blinders and acknowledge that the game has issues and stop thinking that everyone who posts about it hates it.
I think the game has a great deal of potential but it DOES have issues currently. And Anarchy is wearing rose colored glasses as far as I'm concerned. That was why I responded to his post. He comes off making it sound like he feels the games performance issues are the player's fault and they are most certainly not. As to how long irth has been in development? It's been in development for over 2 years now. I think concerns about quality when they're already trying to announce release dates are valid. Granted they're pushing back and sliding them but announcing a release date was foolish in the first place. It was obvious to ANYONE who spent more than 30 seconds in the game that it isn't ready for release and won't be for quite some time.
Furthermore his post states that the graphics are better than "over half the games out there" I dissagree. Titles that were out before this game even went into development have superior graphics at this point. I don't even think the static "world" graphics are all that impressive at this point. Ryzom's environmental graphics make this game look pedestrian, and it's been out since last year. DAOC's graphics are COMPARABLE and it's been out over 3 years (actually 4 at this point I think?). SWG's graphics are superior and it's been out over 2 years.
I'm not saying it's a bad game. All I'm saying is Anarchy comes across as if Irth is the greatest thing since sliced bread and the 'problems' are in the 'eye of the beholder'. To an extent yes they are. But the graphics are not as good as he makes them out to be and the performance issues are REAL and acknowledged by the developers themselves. Poo-pooing another poster for pointing out the performance issues is silly when the devs themselves have acknowledged that the performance problems are a major issue.
the first part was ment for you...second for others...
Damian doesn't care enough to threaten a lawsuit? He threatens lawsuits at a drop of a hat. Check out these two threads:
http://www.runuo.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-33089
http://www.emuresource.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=685&sid=ac0a7921fb3fa1a15f6a67d619966253
He doesn't like people making disparaging remarks, so he threatens lawsuits.
And if Specusci isn't a dev, why is he threatening a lawsuit? Hmmmm, is it a coincidence that Specusci and Damian seems to pop up at the same time? Could Damian be making multiple accounts?
Read that second link. It's pretty funny. Your calm, cool, and collected Damian blows a gasket and makes a buffoon of himself. He's pretending to be a lawyer and makes some funny lawyer-like claims. And he's using an estate-planning lawyer to do his IP lawsuit threats. There's more, but I won't ruin it for you. Just read it for a good laugh.
Lol, owned
hahha
Anyone starting to see the behavioral similarities of these guys to the guys that made Mourning?
Hmmm, I wonder if they are going to threaten me with a lawsuit....
Not sure what got your titties in such a twist Elnator but let me explain myself more.
First off, the water in Irth Onlnie makes WoW's water look like it was drawn with a set of crayolas. The bump mapping is just as refined if not more so than EQ2. Overall I agree with you that WoW and EQ2 and SWG blow it out of the water but it isn't finished yet. If the entire game looked as good as SOME of the elements that are currently in the game, the graphics would be top 3.
There are some parts that are laggier than they should be, but if you set the view distance to 2k or under (good system) or 1k or under (not so good) and turn off names and set shadows to 1 (shadows are always a memory killer, more so in Irth) then the lag COMPLETELY dissappears.
My post was in response to Kjarl who totally bashed the performance, when in another thread, I had already posted a fix to his lag concerns which he either didn't see or totally ignored.
I get a little peeved when someone "Beta"'s a game and then doesn't take the time to actually "Beta" the game; posting on the beta forums about their problems and letting someone help them. His problem was my problem on day 1: a problem that was fixed in about 2 minutes by one of the Irth devs. Incidentally, a more open minded group of developers you will not find. I have changed the world of Irth Online in meaningful ways with my efforts in beta testing. I'll tell you just how when the game releases.
So anyone who gets the major lag issue HERE IS THE FIX: For good systems turn the view distance to 2k or less, shadows and water to 2 or less. For less then superb systems turn the view distance to 1k, shadows and water down to 1 and turn off names. None of which affects the gameplay AT ALL and completely dissolves any lag issue.
Lol, owned
hahha
Anyone starting to see the behavioral similarities of these guys to the guys that made Mourning?
Hmmm, I wonder if they are going to threaten me with a lawsuit....
The first link points to some sort of legal thing saying someone is making disparaging remarks, understandable why someone would want this to cease and desist. The second link returns an error.
owned
hahha
The first link points to some sort of legal thing saying someone is making disparaging remarks, understandable why someone would want this to cease and desist. The second link returns an error.
owned
hahha
That second link works. You just need to change your settings. If you set the view distance to 2k or under and turn off names and set shadows to 1 and lower your resolution to 640 x 480 and turn your audio to 1 and dim all your lights to 5 watts and switch from Windows XP to DOS, then the error COMPLETELY dissappears.
[quote]Originally posted by Peashooter
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Originally posted by kishe
[quote]Originally posted by Peashooter[b]
Originally posted by spydermr2 Tried to try. Sent in to get a key, it never came; emailed to ask, never got a reply. Downloaded the game just in case, tripped my virus scanner as a virus. Nice. Frightening.
Some guy earlier tried to warn everyone about viruses from downloading the Irth Beta, but then the Irth devs came on to deny everything and threatened lawsuits against anyone who mentions that he got a virus from downloading the Irth Beta. Here's the thread:[url=http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion.cfm?load=forums&loadClass=35&loadForum=51&loadThread=49863][/b][/quote]
Specusci isn't a dev...and damian said he doesnt care enough...
Damian doesn't care enough to threaten a lawsuit? He threatens lawsuits at a drop of a hat. Check out these two threads:
[url=http://www.runuo.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-33089]
[url=http://www.emuresource.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=685&sid=ac0a7921fb3fa1a15f6a67d619966253]
He doesn't like people making disparaging remarks, so he threatens lawsuits.
And if Specusci isn't a dev, why is he threatening a lawsuit? Hmmmm, is it a coincidence that Specusci and Damian seems to pop up at the same time? Could Damian be making multiple accounts?
Read that second link. It's pretty funny. Your calm, cool, and collected Damian blows a gasket and makes a buffoon of himself. He's pretending to be a lawyer and makes some funny lawyer-like claims. And he's using an estate-planning lawyer to do his IP lawsuit threats. There's more, but I won't ruin it for you. Just read it for a good laugh.
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first link...cant see anything wrong with that...
Mythic Entertainment vs Mythica
Microsoft vs Lindows
Every company seems quite careful on this...
and second one...
Yes it's amusing...people taunting Damian for him to not want people starting to make Spheres of their own?
commercial product can hold GPL covered code in it as long as it's documented.
As Example Redhat software has kept it's linux distribution as commercial for quite some time now and hasn't published complete sources of their operating system. the GPL parts have their source freely available while code directly coded by Redhat is closed and private..same can be said about Suse.
GPL based code can be used seamlessly with commercial products without need of turning the commercial product free.
I don't blame Damian getting frustraded for trying to teach the dog that the tail the dog's chasing is its own :P
and about Specusci, no he's not damian...unless Damian's seeing whole lot trouble by multitasking two irc clients and chatting with different people on both on same time while routing the other client 100 miles away from another
[quote]Originally posted by anarchyart
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Originally posted by disstress
Damian doesn't care enough to threaten a lawsuit? He threatens lawsuits at a drop of a hat. Check out these two threads:[url=http://www.runuo.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-33089][url=http://www.emuresource.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=685&sid=ac0a7921fb3fa1a15f6a67d619966253]He doesn't like people making disparaging remarks, so he threatens lawsuits.And if Specusci isn't a dev, why is he threatening a lawsuit? Hmmmm, is it a coincidence that Specusci and Damian seems to pop up at the same time? Could Damian be making multiple accounts?Read that second link. It's pretty funny. Your calm, cool, and collected Damian blows a gasket and makes a buffoon of himself. He's pretending to be a lawyer and makes some funny lawyer-like claims. And he's using an estate-planning lawyer to do his IP lawsuit threats. There's more, but I won't ruin it for you. Just read it for a good laugh.
Lol, owned
hahha
Anyone starting to see the behavioral similarities of these guys to the guys that made Mourning?
Hmmm, I wonder if they are going to threaten me with a lawsuit....
The first link points to some sort of legal thing saying someone is making disparaging remarks, understandable why someone would want this to cease and desist. The second link returns an error.
owned
hahha[/b][/quote]
read before you post man, its getting annoying, you are just responding to respond
I did read homey, and as I said the second link now has an error. The first link goes to some legal document which isn't funny in anyway.
hahha
The second link isn't broken, its a thread about Damians UO emu project.
I just tried them both and they both work.
And the legal doc is from an estate planner, you know a guy that makes wills not someone in a position to sue, especially over the context of the threat
But I provided two links there so you can read all about it yourself.
http://www.emuresource.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=106
http://www.emuresource.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=135
To me that sounds like Damian is the only adult on that entire website. When they say he blows his cool, it sounds more to me like he is talking like an adult to a bunch of 12 year olds. The more I read of the attitudes of the cheap bastards on that site who can't afford to play and pay for a game so they steal someone elses code and emulate it, the more I appreciate THIS site and its moderators who defend the people who are right and ban the bedwetters.
hahha
You have no idea what those guys were talking about do you?
I played Irth Online before
I couldnt play it for more then 20 minutes cause the UI and the controls where so terrible. But as a good tester I reported it. Here was my report:
"This game is never going to do well you should just give up now. Your using a generic theme, and I literally cannot play the game. The controls are excessively buggy that I cannot even get out of the first room. I really dont see why the system requirements are so high with the puke graphics this game offers. You should just give up and quit."
Good honest opinion.
But watch out. Irth Online considers this a disparaging remark. They threaten lawsuits for disparaging remarks. Here's just two incidents that reveal their MO.
http://www.runuo.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-33089
http://www.emuresource.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=685&sid=ac0a7921fb3fa1a15f6a67d619966253
Read through that second link. Some one says something that Damian (Irth lead dev) doesn't like and he threatens to sue for "liable".
He might also sue for "salamander".
And if you neglect to remove disparaging remarks, he might sue for "n
Getting sued for salamander FTW!
Love your terminology there Anarchy...
Let me put it this way. Claiming the graphics are better than most games out there when they clearly are not is silly. They have the POTENTIAL to be that good but right now that's all it is, potential. I have learned a policy after over 20 years of beta testing various video games, MMO's and various other software (I used to do it for a living): Never believe the potential till you see it and never claim as reality what is only potential.
Irth has miles and miles of POTENTIAL but if it released tomorrow it would be one of the worst MMO's on the market. That is why I said I'm glad they postponed release. It's also why I said they were idiots for even thinking about a release date at this stage of things. It's not anywhere near ready for release at this point... Yes, it's a playable beta. And people bashing a beta are silly.
But bashing the company for announcing a release date when they knew the game wasn't nearly ready isn't the same as bashing a beta. Those who bashed Irth for announcing such an unrealistic release date are perfectly valid in their flames. It WAS dumb of Irth marketting folks to try to push a release date that anyone who spent 30 seconds in game would know wouldn't work.
Also: If you BOTHERED to read my post the only thing I had a problem with was you claiming that the game *currently* has better graphics than "over half the games out there". Which it certainly does not. I didn't take issue at all to your correcting him about the performance issues. However I do think that saying there aren't performance issues is silly when you have already admitted that you have to use a work-around to make the game playable.
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