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GW2 vs TSW
emota
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For me personally I've had GW2 in my sights like many games for a number of years. For me at least it was potentially going to become my MAIN game that I would plan to play for a number of years. This was going to be the game to end my mmo hopping. That was until TSW came along and changed everything.
I've enjoyed all of the BWE as I've sampled a number of different classes a lot of the PvP and content. I must say though it just did not grab me. I think I'm burned out on fantasy mmos because it felt like more of the same. Don't get me wrong the design is good but I didn't feel absorbed. TSW on the other hand picked me up and smacked me in the face. The design, details, atmosphere, real world environment all added to pull me into the world. I really wanted to explore and unearth the mystery within. .GW2 failed to connect me, TSW did it over and over again repeatedly.
Strangely enough I've also enjoyed the depth of mechanic that TSW brings to the fore. The crafting is really well done and a joy, in comparison .GW2 is very dull and it's not at all new. Again TSW scores over .GW2.
Gfx are decent on both games however the package provided by TSW hosts dx11 and the engine is good producing some lush effects and environment, for me personally I hands down prefer the TSW look and feel.
The combat is really nice in both games not much to choose between them, similar systems based on hockey variations however behind the facia of TSW is the skill wheel which boasts over 500 skills the depth and opportunity this provides is outstanding and kudos must go to FC for delivering a skill system.
PvP my true love, well no doubt the reason I will continue to pop in and out of GW2 is for the WvW however it did not shine as much as I hoped and I fear, I hope I'm wrong that repetition will kick in and it will lose its charm. TSW PvP is a lot of fun, however at this point it does not appear to have the same depth as guildwars2, oddly enough though I am enjoying the TSW PvP much more.
Overall I will be playing both games however not as anticipated, TSW has become my main and GW2 will just slot in around it.
TSW is a breath of fresh air for the mmo themepark market and shines like a beacon based on its own merits, blimey after AOC I never thought I would ever say that about a funcom game! GW2 a good game that i will enjoy although not as my main game.
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Stop that, tsw is a joke for pure casuals.
Nice try but TSW is just waste of money. I have much more fun in GW2 and we are still in beta. Cant wait for release.
No idea how you rated your game play between TSW and GW2. But TSW has very poor action animations, as well as they are very vague and boring, GW2 on other hand has way better graphics and more live like action animations and better and more interesting questing than TSW. Yes, riddles in TSW are interesting but at the same time in away dumb because people have to use in game browser to find answers to the riddles. Why would you spend time playing the game and then waste time trying to search the inernet for the answer to the riddle which is simple, all you need to do is think just a bit more and you could solve the riddle.
GW2 has more of a story based quests and side quests which you could do, as well as daylies which are not required at all. You could explore the world and enjoy the game without needing to always level none stop, just so you could continue to the next area. I'd say that GW2 scores way more than TSW, also because it is way more polished out before the release. TSW had way too many glitches and bugs, and probably still has them after the release.
Both games have somewhat awesome graphics if you are focusing on the landscape only, but GW2 has more of optimization towards graphics in the game overall not just the landscape, shadows, lighting, and the animations. All of these in GW2 look way better than TSW that is why I'm sticking with GW2 and not wasting my money on TSW.
good for you. i'm sure funcom will be happy with you as well.
i can think of way better things to waste my money into, instead of playing TSW.
GW2 = MMO B2P, optional cash shop, great looking char models, fun combat, decent animations.
TSW= single player game, B2P, pricey subscription fee, and a cash shop. and fugly char models, horrible combat, animations
i think the answer is very obvious. GW2 wins easy
fact: tsw is a steaming pile of unpolished poop compared to gw2. theyre not even in the same category. tsw is barely AAA, while GW2 pushes the limits of AAA.
I don't knw what OP was expectibg by posting this on GW2 forums. Also repsonses are typical and predictable.
Good job poking the hornet's nest OP.
[mod edit] I own both games and spent today playing TSW instead of GW2. Just sayin'.
OP told us his opinion.
Responses told theirs.
Why do you have problem with that ?
Op gave his opinion.
Responses told theirs
I gave mine too
What do you have problem with that?
Sigh... I wish for once you could read a post and the replies and get some sort of balance.
Quests: TSW quests are far superior to GW2. I find TSW quests involving and more importantly fun.
Graphics: Both games sport very good graphics.
Combat: TSW suffers from 1/2 button meshing because they have decided to go with a resource builder/consumer which quite frankly makes their combat feel not as fluid as GW2 - where you have more freedom in deciding which ability to activate.
Skills: TSW touts an open skill deck, but quite frankly it has a lot of restrictions - in that you can only equip 2 weapons at a time and you have to build your gear around your "spec". So yes you can go Blade for damage/tanking - but if you want to take Fist for healing - you will find you will have to compromise your gear selection and you have to worry about ability synergy. So essentially it's not as "open" as Funcom or it's fan club espouses.
I also find the skill selection in TSW quite run of the mill and "boring". GW2 has a lot of really different skills with a lot better animations.
PVP - TSW is instanced pvp in a can. With people continually running around a giant fish bowl trading caps. Neither one is doing pvp right "for me"; but Shadowbane spoiled me, and I doubt if another game will ever capture the essense of large scale group fights the way Shadowbane did.
I think I may end up playing GW2, just because the pvp is better (imo) and the combat is more interesting and "fun", although if I do I will definately miss the 5 man dungeon runs (very well done).
see i cant really agree with you on quests being way better for TSW as they are still static quests that will have you doing basically the same 5 or 6 different things over and over UNLESS its an investigation quest , they are unique but ive seen quite a few that are just frustating at best. The combat in TSW isnt great for sure and the skill wheel is mostly filler with a few good skills depending on what sort of deck you want to run but i personally prefer the style of guild wars 2 system. Combat animations in TSW are not great and pvp is a laughning joke compared to guild wars 2 for sure. But OP posting in the GW2 forums you already know what sort of answers your going to get.
I think that this topic would be better at place in The Pub section of the forums. This is just asking for flames, even if it wasn't the OP's intention.
Thats all a load of bullcrap if you ask me.... he is fed up with fantasy mmo's? For god sake, one of the main reason i gave up on TSW right on the beta phase was because that crap is a total copy paste of every other fantasy mmo out there in terms of classes, i mean, i could be a melee with swordies, a mage with spellies and a ranger with rifles, even the class names were the exact same...
Just because they try to put it in a modern setting with some horrid animations doesnt make it different. Still, there are some zones with absolutely no connection to the real world which could be taken directly from any other fantasy mmo out there.
So dont buy that attempt to sell TSW as something original because it's not. It does have a slightly different setting and environment but classwise it's the same old same old
Jesus.there are no classes in TSW, the names are there for deck outfits that you unlock nothing more and most of the pre made decks are crap anyways, that you can ask any TSW player.
I said earlier making topics like these on GW2 forums is bad idea. Another gentleman says TSW questing is boring and all you do is kill and collect things while he is happy doing the same in GW2 because they are called DE's.
It is just not possible to have a balanced discussion over here.
I've been playing both games and for me TSW is a much better pve experience.The mission's and ambiance to me are well above GW2.
Tonight I was playing GW2 and basically was bored because it remind's me so much of WAR with it's pq's all over the place.It's just a different spin on the pq system.Now people are going to say how there's exploring and De's and such,but those thing's exist in other games,just under a different mask.To be honest the DE's aren't that great once you've done a few.
What also has me baffled is people bashed TSW saying the 7 active and 7 passive skill's are to bland and just a button mash.Guess what GW2 is even worse imo.
I bought the game and will keep to that,but I won't spend near as much time in this game than I thought.
Dude, don't wander around, you know perfectly what I mean. When I say classes im refering to the general gameplay of each type, melee, ranged and caster. Even if there are no names set you know the gameplay is the exact same as in other fantasy mmo's.
You ppl have this habit of trying to go around the existence of classes with that kind of subterfuge...
Sigh..sorry but this the wrong forum, feel free to make a topic about this on TSW and i will debate with you. But honestly you have no idea what you are talking about.
I also was (and still am) a fan of GW2, have pre-purchased, and have enjoyed every BWE. Other than this one. Why? TSW! Simply just a better all round game, with more depth. Which to be honest has surprised me, as I hated TSW up until its last BWE.
I'll be playing both, as finally there's two good releases. Kind of a shame they are so close to each other, but at least GW2 will be a good break, when feeling a bit burnt out.
Although I'm not fussed on the new beginner areas, we've got to see in this GW2 BWE.
hmmm.. you wont be singing the same tune in a couple of weeks when you reach max lvl with ZERO endgame and ZERO pvp balance. the people who can actually stomach the spastic animations and horrible combat fascinate me. then they go around spewing their crappy opinions over the gw2 forums. hah. enjoy your ride while it lasts, it wont be long. gw2 is here to stay.
I was gign to say soemthign regarding ZERO end game and ZER PVP balance but then i saw your posting history and decided not to take the bait. lol
PVP is not balanced in any mmo, and that includes GW2.Actually content is a bigger problem for GW2 at the moment. People are finding it hard to progress to newer areas, without being below level.
To try and claim TSW has zero endgame, simply demonstrates how little you know about the game.
well to me when i play gw2 for some reason i always feel like logging into wow.
and when i play tsw i feel like i am playing a change from the normal mmos i play.
will be playing both games though has 1 is not subb based
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lifeordinary, I was also going to keep debating TSW with you, but then I saw your posting history and avatar and I decided not to take the bait. lol
Is that your best comeback? i don't think you even know what baiting means. I never said GW2 sucks or is bad by the way. I am looking forward to play it on release. But i do believe in more prudent and balanced discussions without exxageration and hyperbole, which sadly you can not offer.
I've played both but in my opinion GW2 is really lightyears ahead. The sabotage quests and the investigation quests in The Secret World are fun.
The setting and atmosphere is awesome. Lot's of points to funcom for being bold and straying away from the general fantasy settings.
The graphics are quite solid and so is the sound.
The ability weel is a nifty devation from the norm although it has its flaws. For one thing while the game claims to have no levels the item gear system is such that it might as well have levels. There is a huge different between players in pve and pvp.
Speaking of the PVP, the PVP in the secret world is really a bunch of crap. 2 warzones have such big queues that its impossible to play them and the other one, fusang, is fun at first until the difference between item levels starts to ruin it. Furthermore it quickly becomes a boring running around in circles affair as everyone just wants to get their black marks and go. It certainly doesn't stand a chance when you compare it to WvW.
By far however, the weakest link of The Secret World is the combat system. This truly ruins the game for me. A shame really, but gameplay is still king and Funcom is "fired" for developing a simplistic, limited boring combat system that they did. It truly feels like going a few decades back to the past of gaming and is not worthy of a A+ mmo.
Guild Wars 2 by comparison Probably has the most advanced and fun combat system in the market. Guild Wars 2 might not have such a solid atmoshpere and storyline but atmosphere and storyline start to bore after a while anyway and all you have left is the gameplay and combat and Guild Wars 2 delivers that better then anyone. After playing a few weeks of TSW it is truly a relief and a joy to be running, dodging and diving with Guild Wars 2 deep combat system.
Furthermore while the quests of the Secret World are fun, what they lack is the sense of community that GW2 has. In TSW I get that same feeling I had when I was playing SWTOR, having the feeling I'm playing a single player game with occasional help from other players. GW2 on the other hand goes into an entire different direction and not only makes it much easier to group, no Guild Wars 2 actually sort of pushed us together in a natural way, you feel you are constantly part of a raid. It's not like FF11 where you feel you can't do anything without a group, you can in fact solo everything, but Arenanet designed their game in such a way that it makes us want to play togehter and thats why you see giant raids and groups everywhere.
Where SWTOR and TSW feel like single player games with "patches" of MMO, GW2 really feels like the massive massive and social experience ever.
Finally the lack of the healer, tank, dps trinity makes GW2 feel much more like a new experience then any other game including TSW.
So while TSW is a nice in between for me, I can't see many people staying after the story and atmosphere start to bore wereas GW2 has a bunch of innovation and quality combat that will make people spend years in this game.
Finally, in terms of PVP GW2 offers the very best with e-sport type S-PVP (Without queues!) and the amazing massive WvW.