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Gem Store: My only GW2 concern

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  • DerpybirdDerpybird Member Posts: 991
    Originally posted by Vannor
    Originally posted by Derpybird

    http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Bag_(crafting)

    http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Account_vault

    30 bank slot items, up to 250 of each crafting material, 12 slot bags or boxes = a ton of space without purchasing anything.

    Do people look this stuff up before complaining about it?

     20 slot bags are also there, one example:

    http://www.gw2db.com/data/items/56056-20-slot-invisible-bag

     

    I didn't even know that.

    On my level 35 Char, sadly dead from the last BWE delete, I had 5 crafted 8 slot boxes, stored all my crafting mats, and had more inventory space (and coincidentally cash from DEs, but that's another matter) than I could possibly fill.

    Given that you post items to the AH right from your inventory, salvage items, and store them if they're crafting mats, what are you really carrying around? I had all my weapons, 2 salvage kits, and that's it.

    And BTW, did people see you can access your crafting mats right from the crafting stations? I thought that was totally awesome.

    Do I think the prices for extra storage space are a bit expensive? Sure.

    Do I think I'll need it? Nope.

    "Loading screens" are not "instances".
    Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.

  • Ambros123Ambros123 Member Posts: 877
    Originally posted by terrant
    Originally posted by angzt

    screw the money =)

     

    my main prob is, are those transmute stones only available in the shop?!

    Sorry for the double post but needed to respond here. No, they are not. You can get them from PS quests, explore bonuses, and even mob drops. I can confirm those personally as of BWE3. I had a bunch of the lower grade ones.

     

    I cannot confirm the higher grade ones, but we haven't gotten access to higher level areas yet. We'll see.

    Yeah did the Divinitiy's Reach and Kess-whatever Hills (15-25 Kryta) exploration completion which both gave me 3 transmutation stones each if I recall right for gear lvls 1-79 amoung other goodies.

  • LordOuterLordOuter Member Posts: 6
    Originally posted by Bainwalker

    Love the game.  Love the PvP and what the game has to offer those of us seeking an E-Sport type MMO.

     

    Only concern... the gem store prices.  Seems rather greedy.

     

    Lets break this down shall we?

     

    50 dollars gets you 4000 gems

     

    To get a bag slot is 400 gems.  There are three slots to unlock.  1200 gems right there just for bag slots.

     

    Bank space is 600 gems a pop and I don't even know what the max number of times you'd need to buy bank space.  Lets go with three times just like the bag spaces... 1800 gems

     

    4000 - 3000 = 1000 gems left

     

    Nearly 50 dollars just on bag / bank space... that can't be right... seems so unfair to spend 60 dollars on the game then just to enjoy full usage of storage another 50.  

     

    I won't even get started on the boosters.

     

    Long story short come launch because I'm a competitive gamer I'll be looking to spend another 100 dollars at least on the gem store.  I don't like it but if I am to compete I'll need to.  

     

    Thanks Anet for going against your word on the gem store.

     

    I have 2 concerns about this. First is no bulk buy and second is a bit expensive for European players (at least for must of us).

     

    First: I intended to buy some gems, but wanted some discount for buying in quantity (wich I don´t understand this moves from Anet, unless they become greedy), with no discount at all, I will buy none or just 800 gems if I eventualy needed them.

    Second: The price are just unfair and seems a bit high for Europe in general, if they drop the prices a bit and make a discount for bulk buy, they will certanly have my money. Otherwise I just have to pass it for now, and if I need to buy some gems, I will do so with with the lowest price (since there are no discount).

     

    From the perspective of buying gems from game money, or I am mistaken or the price will touch the stars. Why the hell I will trade real money for in game money. There are allways new stuff they will put on gem stores and besides that, everyone will just keep their gems for tramsmutation stones or other stuff that are usefull in long term. I will not see a lot of people selling gems for ingame money, unless they are rich or need deseperatly ingame money.

     

    Well guys, I admit I am a fanboy but there are limits to greedy. Change the gem store prices, and maybe you will see some real economic on gems trade price, and that my friends, will benefict us all, the guys that don´t have real money for gems, and for us(me) that could buy in quantity and if I have some money problems could allways sell some gems for money.

     

    Change prices and bulk buy for all and I for sure will buy gems in quantity. Till then I won´t touch the gem store.

     

    Sorry Anet, a bit disapointed from you.

  • RamadarRamadar Member Posts: 167
    Originally posted by Bainwalker

    Love the game.  Love the PvP and what the game has to offer those of us seeking an E-Sport type MMO.

     

    Only concern... the gem store prices.  Seems rather greedy.

     

    Lets break this down shall we?

     

    50 dollars gets you 4000 gems

     

    To get a bag slot is 400 gems.  There are three slots to unlock.  1200 gems right there just for bag slots.

     

    Bank space is 600 gems a pop and I don't even know what the max number of times you'd need to buy bank space.  Lets go with three times just like the bag spaces... 1800 gems

     

    4000 - 3000 = 1000 gems left

     

    Nearly 50 dollars just on bag / bank space... that can't be right... seems so unfair to spend 60 dollars on the game then just to enjoy full usage of storage another 50.  

     

    I won't even get started on the boosters.

     

    Long story short come launch because I'm a competitive gamer I'll be looking to spend another 100 dollars at least on the gem store.  I don't like it but if I am to compete I'll need to.  

     

    Thanks Anet for going against your word on the gem store.

    I did some fiddling with the gem store yesterday and was surprise that you only need 4264 gold to buy 999999 gems at the current exchange price and after laughing at that you'll have no reason to spend real cash for gems.

    Evil will always triumph because good is dumb....

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Originally posted by Bainwalker

    Love the game.  Love the PvP and what the game has to offer those of us seeking an E-Sport type MMO.

    Only concern... the gem store prices.  Seems rather greedy

    Lets break this down shall we?

    50 dollars gets you 4000 gems

    To get a bag slot is 400 gems.  There are three slots to unlock.  1200 gems right there just for bag slots.

    Bank space is 600 gems a pop and I don't even know what the max number of times you'd need to buy bank space.  Lets go with three times just like the bag spaces... 1800 gems

    4000 - 3000 = 1000 gems left

    Nearly 50 dollars just on bag / bank space... that can't be right... seems so unfair to spend 60 dollars on the game then just to enjoy full usage of storage another 50.  

    I won't even get started on the boosters.

    Long story short come launch because I'm a competitive gamer I'll be looking to spend another 100 dollars at least on the gem store.  I don't like it but if I am to compete I'll need to.  

    Thanks Anet for going against your word on the gem store.

    You have to pay just under 40 bucks (not 50) if you want to max out your storage and bags, yes. I personally don´t plan to do that unless I get some gems cheap for gold, it is not really something you must have and crafted bags will be fine enough.

    This is perfect stuff to sell in a cashshop since it really doesn´t affect the game balance. The crafting mat store is huge enough and I will simply turn all crap into crafting mats and send them to the bank autmatically.

    I have done the same in GW1 for years except here I can even leftclick and send them for free, it works and my crafters will have plenty of mats or I can sell a stack for a good price on the market later.

    You don't need to carry around and store all #¤%%& you find.

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Originally posted by LordOuter

    From the perspective of buying gems from game money, or I am mistaken or the price will touch the stars. Why the hell I will trade real money for in game money. There are allways new stuff they will put on gem stores and besides that, everyone will just keep their gems for tramsmutation stones or other stuff that are usefull in long term. I will not see a lot of people selling gems for ingame money, unless they are rich or need deseperatly ingame money.

    I am not so sure, the whole pay2win idea so many threads are about are based on loads of people selling gems to get farmed gold. And morons already by gold from the triad and Russian mob in Wow for real money, that have to be worse.

    I think plenty will try to sell gems but they might not get the price they want to.

  • DJJazzyDJJazzy Member UncommonPosts: 2,053

    Well I'm not sure about the OP, I'm sure his concern is a good point. I know that from my own perspective that I saw nothing in the store that had me wanting to spend money at all.

    The only thing that will interest me is another character slot when it comes time to do that. But otherwise I was disappointed in what I saw in the shop, I was prepared to actually spend some money but not after seeing what was in it.

  • LordOuterLordOuter Member Posts: 6
    Originally posted by Loke666
    Originally posted by LordOuter

    From the perspective of buying gems from game money, or I am mistaken or the price will touch the stars. Why the hell I will trade real money for in game money. There are allways new stuff they will put on gem stores and besides that, everyone will just keep their gems for tramsmutation stones or other stuff that are usefull in long term. I will not see a lot of people selling gems for ingame money, unless they are rich or need deseperatly ingame money.

    I am not so sure, the whole pay2win idea so many threads are about are based on loads of people selling gems to get farmed gold. And morons already by gold from the triad and Russian mob in Wow for real money, that have to be worse.

    I think plenty will try to sell gems but they might not get the price they want to.

     

    Why do people sell gems? they will need them sooner or later. They are not cheap, if that was the case I would agree with you Loke.

     

    People will have ingame money for selling loot or craft. Hardcore players will get even more money doing dungeons and playing the game, and this guys are usually the ones who spent real money. Ingame money will be no problem for this guys, so no real advantage selling gems cause they will use them for themselves.

     

    Why I should sell 100 gems for 1 gold coin? sooner or later I will have it. Unless just as I said I need urgent money. It would make sense if I get 100 gold coins for 100 gems, that I would probably sell them (or something like that).

     

    Maybe I am mistake on this one, but not so sure about it.

  • TheDarkrayneTheDarkrayne Member EpicPosts: 5,297
    Originally posted by Ramadar

    I did some fiddling with the gem store yesterday and was surprise that you only need 4264 gold to buy 999999 gems at the current exchange price and after laughing at that you'll have no reason to spend real cash for gems.

    The price of gold --> gems is related to how much it and gems --> gold are used. That means the price of buying gems with gold will change depending on a sort of supply vs demand system. Except, the supply is alway infinate.

    Basically, there are one 'main' way it works...

    The more people using gems --> gold, the more the cost of gold --> gems will go down. But, the cost of gems --> gold will go up. Vice versa applies as well.

    It's an adaptive system that changes the prices over time automatically and is not in any way established in the beta weekends. Thinking you will be able to get about 5 gems for 7 silver once this is released is probably a big WILD mistake. It's going to cost 'a lot' more than that.

    So, ultimately, the more people using gems to get rich on gold.. the more those of us who don't do that will get cheaper gems. The RL money gem buyers are actually helping us out.

    I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
  • loulakiloulaki Member UncommonPosts: 944

    to OP i suppose you dont know that you can salvage everything and then send it directly to your bank ...

    do you know that for materials you dont need space in your bank ? 

    also with 5x8* (at least) you hae 40 slots for your junks and salvage kits, and almost everywhere i was able to find a merchant for the junks ...

     

     

    *the very first crafts are bags ... so before you start your "run" to 80 get prepared man^^

     

     

     

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  • Gaia_HunterGaia_Hunter Member UncommonPosts: 3,066
    Originally posted by LordOuter
    Originally posted by Loke666
    Originally posted by LordOuter

    From the perspective of buying gems from game money, or I am mistaken or the price will touch the stars. Why the hell I will trade real money for in game money. There are allways new stuff they will put on gem stores and besides that, everyone will just keep their gems for tramsmutation stones or other stuff that are usefull in long term. I will not see a lot of people selling gems for ingame money, unless they are rich or need deseperatly ingame money.

    I am not so sure, the whole pay2win idea so many threads are about are based on loads of people selling gems to get farmed gold. And morons already by gold from the triad and Russian mob in Wow for real money, that have to be worse.

    I think plenty will try to sell gems but they might not get the price they want to.

     

    Why do people sell gems? they will need them sooner or later. They are not cheap, if that was the case I would agree with you Loke.

     

    People will have ingame money for selling loot or craft. Hardcore players will get even more money doing dungeons and playing the game, and this guys are usually the ones who spent real money. Ingame money will be no problem for this guys, so no real advantage selling gems cause they will use them for themselves.

     

    Why I should sell 100 gems for 1 gold coin? sooner or later I will have it. Unless just as I said I need urgent money. It would make sense if I get 100 gold coins for 100 gems, that I would probably sell them (or something like that).

     

    Maybe I am mistake on this one, but not so sure about it.

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  • friednietzfriednietz Member Posts: 118

    I hate to bring you down further OP but it's not nearly $50 for max bank and bag slots. It *is* $50 for maxing those two out, because you can never exchange gems back into real world monies.

    As far as Anet is concerned you've spent $50 and those extra gems you think you have to spend on extra pixels or conviences cost them virtually nothing to print.

    My only suggestion is that they go back to the $5 for 400 gems minimum mark. As is they're asking that you spend no less than $10 in the cash shop whether it's the aviator shades or a full costume they call cost $10 at minimum.

    Black Lion Trading Company indeed.

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