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500$ budget for a motherboard, cpu and power supply.
dg29031994
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Hey guys 
i just got my new graphic card HD 7950. My computer is while old, i bought it b in 2010 and it was not build for gaming so i will need to upgrade it, i already got new gaming case. I coulda have a bidget of 600$ but i will need to buy new version of window since the one i'm using is Win 7 oem. I will buy another oem version for 100$, so i ended up with a budget of 500$. I need a new Motherboard, CPU and Power Supply for gaming.
I am not planning on playing 24/7. My main game will be GW2 (it will be released this august).
and i want to buy from newegg
Thank you 
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you can get a good CPU for around $200, motherboard 100-150 and PSU for 100 ish, $500 is more then enough
gimme a few mins, and ill see what I can put together for you
Save the $500.00 and wait till you can spend more money. Going cheap will always back fire.
If you want all of the parts you get to be compatible, then you need to give some details. Exactly which case is it, which hard drive, which SSD (if any), which memory (or at least give all of the specs, not just the capacity), and do you already have an optical drive and peripherals that you'll keep?
CPU $219
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
motherboard $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271
PSU $129
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006
total under 500, if you wanted you could actually stretch to an I7
you may well need a new OS as they are keyed to the Motherboard so $100 for that
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986
or more for the retail version
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116716
we have the retail and it gave us three uses before it wouldnt install.don't know if it's suppose to
install on more than this machine, and it onll runs on this one atm, but we did try it on two others temporarily.
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FYI with the OEM windows thing.
On occasion it will work, so try it first, also, I have known plenty of people who have contaced Microsoft and had there OEM version reset. They just said there motherboard died and they had to get a replacement.
Its worth giving those two a shot before forkign over another 100 bucks.
Case:
http://www.tweaktown.com/pressrelease/796/antec_nine_hundred_two_computer_case_announced/index.html
Ram:
Hard drive:
really? The thing is i dont have the Windows CD to install it, but i heard about doing it with a USB, so i might try it out.
So if it works, then all i need to do is ask Microsoft to reset it and then use it to install right? if they reset my current oem windows version, will my old motherboard get affect?
The case should be suitable to what you want to do. I had to ask because sometimes people have ideas about keeping a cheap junk case with little airflow and not necessarily enough space for parts to physically fit, but you won't have those problems.
The memory is a 2 GB module of 1333 MHz DDR3. I take it you have four such modules, to make 8 GB total? That's less than ideal, but I wouldn't spend the $50 to get two 4 GB modules of 1600 MHz DDR3 with heatspreaders, because the difference between what is ideal and what you have barely matters. If it were a $5 difference, I'd say to spend the extra $5, but not $50.
The hard drive is a 7200 RPM 1 TB hard drive. It's SATA 2, which means that the design is probably a few years old. But it should work fine.
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I'm going to recommend that you get a new solid state drive, in addition to the parts you had in mind. That will make an enormous difference in how fast your system feels. If you get the SSD as well as the new processor and so forth, you'll notice that your computer feels vastly faster than the old one. You might think it's the processor or the video card, and for frame rates in games, that would be correct, but for everything else, the speed difference that you'll feel will be almost entirely the SSD. Well, unless you're upgrading from something glacially slow like an Intel Atom or Pentium 4.
Processor and motherboard: $335 before a $15 rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1018353
That's the standard gaming enthusiast processor, together with a motherboard that has all the features you're likely to want, plus some you won't. It should get you a respectable overclock if you want to go that route, too.
Power supply: $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182071
That's Super Flower's gold platform, which is fairly high end. And it's more wattage than you're ever likely to need unless you want to go SLI/CrossFire in the future.
SSD: $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147163
Because a computer without an SSD is slow, no matter what else it has. You can find cheaper for the same capacity, but those are mostly junk. You could also get a Crucial M4 (which is also good) for the same price, but I'd sooner take a Samsung 830.
Total: $515 before a $15 mail-in rebate.
You might also want an aftermarket cooler for the processor if you don't already have one for your current computer. This doesn't have to be expensive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
That's vastly better than the stock cooler that comes with the processor, and like the motherboard, will let you get a respectable overclock if you want to go that route.
It wouldn't hurt to go for more modern parts than that. In particular, the processor and motherboard I linked are both better and cheaper.
But the worst offender is the power supply. That power supply dates all the way back to 2007. It was pretty nice in its day, but by today's standards is merely adequate. And $130 is way too much to spend for merely adequate.
Thanks Quizz, but i think i will need to pass on the SSD for now, i need to make sure i can install OS on the new mobo. I will buy the SSD if Microsoft allow me to reset my OS oem version. And with the cpu fan, i know that the CPU will include a normal heatsink and fan, does that heat sink and fan good enough? All i do is play game, Guildwars 2 mostly, i am not planning to overclock, that for sure
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This is my current system:
AMD phenon II x4 925
8gb memory
1tb hard drive
ATI Raedon HD 7950 3gb
mobo: Foxconn Aloe 1.01
New system after upgrading:
Intel Core i5-3570k Ivy Bridge
8gb memory
1tb hard drive
ATI raedon HD 7950 3gb
mobo: Gigabyte GA Z77X D3H LGA 1155
So my question is, How much of a difference in gaming fps does it make after i upgrade it?
A Phenom II X4 925 is a decent enough processor. I wouldn't replace it just yet unless some particular game is giving you trouble and you know that it's a processor bottleneck. Have you already bought and installed the other parts, and something still isn't running well?
In terms of needing a new OS license, Microsoft doesn't care if you add an SSD. The OEM license is tied to the motherboard.
I will play guild wars 2 this august and currently i'm playing Aion. The problem is, with GW 2, i heard people say it is a CPU intensive. I did not believe them, so i bought a new graphic card instead which is the HD 7950 3GB to replace my old GTX 460 1gb v1. With the old GTX 460, i run at normal setting in GW2 and i get around 30 FPS, i tried to put it to highest setting and i get around 20 FPS, i will need more than that to do Siege. After i changed to HD 7950 3GB which is suppose to be twice as fast the GTX 460, i get 40 FPS in normal setting but not stable, sometime it still drops down to 20. Set it to highest setting and i get 30FPS. That was way lower than my expectation.
With aion, when i have GTX 460, on highest setting i get around 20-30, and i get just a bit better FPS after i changed to HD 7950
I also test it with Cabal online i don't see much difference in FPS. about 5-10 fps difference
I am sure that is not a problem with the graphic card, before i changed to HD 7950, i did test other stuff like heaven benchmark, try out other games like Crysis 2, Dirt showdown, Deus ex: human revolution, the HD 7950 completely out perform gtx 460. In Deux ex, the gtx 460 could not handle highest setting, with HD 7950 i got up to 120 fps.
If your budget still allows you to pick up a SSD than I would argue not to wait. There is no other upgrade that will impact the overall performance of your computing experience than going from an HDD to SSD. You mentioned you plan on playing GW2, if you have played in any of the Betas then you are aware there is a decent amount of zone loading. A SSD cuts overall load times (for all progams installed directly on the SSD) by such a large amount it's hard to explain in a way someone who hasn't experience the difference will understand before they take the jump. I used to be skeptical myself but after taking the plunge I can tell you if the choice was between 10-20FPS in a video game via a GPU upgrade vs SSD over HDD I would choose the SSD EVERYTIME. It's makes that much of a difference.
If all you are trying to do is run Guild Wars 2 you dont need an upgrade.
I had 20-30 fps in gw 2 at high setting, and 30-40 at medium setting ( no WvW ). I need better fps so i can do WvW since i will be doing it a lot.
I reccomend a EVGA MOBO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131835
Corsair PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139022
and INTEL CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
EVGA FTW-3 MOBO X58
EVGA GTX 580
G.SKILL RIPJAW 12GB
INTEL I7 950
CORSAIR H70 CPU COOLER
CORSAIR 1200W 80+GOLD