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Guild Wars 2, the most unoriginal game ever.

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  • PieRadPieRad Member Posts: 1,108
    Originally posted by MarXon
    Originally posted by PieRad
    Originally posted by Pilut
    Originally posted by PieRad

     

    Why is it worse if he's serious? Because you think his opinion is wrong, and it hurts you?

    Because of the title of the thread I'd guess. It's a trolling title. Also I dont get this "He's entitled to his opinion but no-one else is, if you express a negative opinion you should take meds". Is only the OP entitled to his opinion in your eyes? Me I mostly reacted to his bad attempt of trolling.

     

    For the record: I will be playing both WoW and GW2 so I'm not a crazy fanboy. (Apparently this is the get-out-of-jail card, since you're then able to label any post as fanboy posts)

    It is kinda of a get-out-of-jail card, since if you don't incl. that in your post, you'll be met with meaningless responses like the OP, "Troll", instead of discussion.

    And now that people are done with calling OP all kinds shit, they turn their evil GW2 fanboy eyes at me, can't have someone on this forum who likes to see both positives and negatives discussed, it's IMPOSSIBLE! :P

    Just because OP didn't follow what you guys appearently think is a correct way to put up negatives to discuss, doesn't mean you can't discuss OP's points in a civil manner, instead of just dismissing it with "Troll", or just leave the thread all together.

     

    You could discuss why YOU think GW2 is original, why it got tactics involved etc. etc.

     

    But he is very much entitled to think GW2 is the biggest turd to ever come out of the gaming industry, if he wants.

     

    So everyone is entitled to an opinion, and we shouldn't post negative comments in response to the op? Yet, our negative comments are our opinions, which we, according to you, are entitled to. So you post negative comments in response to our opinions, in which you state that everyone is entitled to an opinion, while also saying that we shouldn't post our opinion? So is everyone entitled to their opinion, or just you and the op?
    Is that it? A bit hypocritical isn't it?

    He says GW2 is unoriginal, if you made a post expressing your own opinion about why you think it is original, then you got a discussion, or why you think GW2 does have good gameplay and strategies.

    Simple really.

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  • PieRadPieRad Member Posts: 1,108
    Originally posted by seridan
    Originally posted by PieRad
    Originally posted by seridan
    Originally posted by PieRad
    -snip-

    The problem with the OP is he doesn't have ANY POINTS.

    He says GW2 is unoriginal, if you made a post expressing your own opinion about why you think it is original, then you got a discussion, or why you think GW2 does have good gameplay and strategies.

    Simple really.

    So you find it "proper" to go on other game's forums and start posting "this game is unoriginal"? That's your idea of a discussion?

    If that's what he thinks about it, yes.

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  • MarXonMarXon Member Posts: 22

    So all I need to do is to counter his opinion with mine, and use at least as many points and facts as him?

     

    Hmm, ok.

     

    Guild Wars 2 IS original.

     

    Eureka, I got it!

  • NorpanNorpan Member CommonPosts: 319
    Well I preordered GW2, and went into BETA with high hopes. But the BETA has only proven me one thing, and that is that I won´t be playing GW2 when it launches. I already cancelled my preorder. I just thought it was the same ol themeparkish MMO as the rest. Just in new "cloths". Nothing original with it at all. To those that love it. Good for ya. But I´m moving on and will keep on looking. My hopes atm are on The Repopulation, PS2 and Firefall.
  • AlotAlot Member Posts: 1,948


    Originally posted by PieRad
    Originally posted by MarXon Originally posted by PieRad Originally posted by Pilut Originally posted by PieRad  
    Why is it worse if he's serious? Because you think his opinion is wrong, and it hurts you?
    Because of the title of the thread I'd guess. It's a trolling title. Also I dont get this "He's entitled to his opinion but no-one else is, if you express a negative opinion you should take meds". Is only the OP entitled to his opinion in your eyes? Me I mostly reacted to his bad attempt of trolling.   For the record: I will be playing both WoW and GW2 so I'm not a crazy fanboy. (Apparently this is the get-out-of-jail card, since you're then able to label any post as fanboy posts)
    It is kinda of a get-out-of-jail card, since if you don't incl. that in your post, you'll be met with meaningless responses like the OP, "Troll", instead of discussion. And now that people are done with calling OP all kinds shit, they turn their evil GW2 fanboy eyes at me, can't have someone on this forum who likes to see both positives and negatives discussed, it's IMPOSSIBLE! :P Just because OP didn't follow what you guys appearently think is a correct way to put up negatives to discuss, doesn't mean you can't discuss OP's points in a civil manner, instead of just dismissing it with "Troll", or just leave the thread all together.   You could discuss why YOU think GW2 is original, why it got tactics involved etc. etc.   But he is very much entitled to think GW2 is the biggest turd to ever come out of the gaming industry, if he wants.  
    So everyone is entitled to an opinion, and we shouldn't post negative comments in response to the op? Yet, our negative comments are our opinions, which we, according to you, are entitled to. So you post negative comments in response to our opinions, in which you state that everyone is entitled to an opinion, while also saying that we shouldn't post our opinion? So is everyone entitled to their opinion, or just you and the op? Is that it? A bit hypocritical isn't it?
    He says GW2 is unoriginal, if you made a post expressing your own opinion about why you think it is original, then you got a discussion, or why you think GW2 does have good gameplay and strategies.

    Simple really.


    If you honestly believe that the OP has got good intentions, then why hasn't he even bothered addressing any of the criticism? And don't tell me that the so-called hate has scared him off, as he wouldn't gotten this much hate if he hadn't created such an unnecessarily sensationalist thread.

  • seridanseridan Member UncommonPosts: 1,202
    Originally posted by PieRad
    Originally posted by seridan
    Originally posted by PieRad
    Originally posted by seridan
    Originally posted by PieRad
    -snip-

    The problem with the OP is he doesn't have ANY POINTS.

    He says GW2 is unoriginal, if you made a post expressing your own opinion about why you think it is original, then you got a discussion, or why you think GW2 does have good gameplay and strategies.

    Simple really.

    So you find it "proper" to go on other game's forums and start posting "this game is unoriginal"? That's your idea of a discussion?

    If that what he thinks about it, yes.

    There are stickies for a reason:

    http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/473/view/forums/thread/359874/Aerowyns-Video-Compilation-of-ALL-things-Guild-Wars-2.html

    Also there are discussions on various aspects of gameplay on these forums and why the game is not unoriginal. There is NO POINT in making a new thread about it. That's exactly what trolls do. I won't bother with this anymore it will be locked when a moderator awakes

    Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums

  • jdlamson75jdlamson75 Member UncommonPosts: 1,010

    Guild Wars 2 isn't an original concept?  Crap.  This whole time I thought I was having FUN with something completely new in the world of gaming.  Now the FUN I've been having is tainted.  With FUN.

     

     

    And I'm pretty sure DOTA came out before LoL, making your precious unoriginal as well.  =P (Sorry, couldn't resist the childish urge there.  I am a bad person.)

  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,860
    Originally posted by PieRad
    Originally posted by seridan
    Originally posted by PieRad

    It is kinda of a get-out-of-jail card, since if you don't incl. that in your post, you'll be met with meaningless responses like the OP, "Troll", instead of discussion.

    And now that people are done with calling OP all kinds shit, they turn their evil GW2 fanboy eyes at me, can't have someone on this forum who likes to see both positives and negatives discussed, it's IMPOSSIBLE! :P

    Just because OP didn't follow what you guys appearently think is a correct way to put up negatives to discuss, doesn't mean you can't discuss OP's points in a civil manner, instead of just dismissing it with "Troll", or just leave the thread all together.

     

    You could discuss why YOU think GW2 is original, why it got tactics involved etc. etc.

     

    But he is very much entitled to think GW2 is the biggest turd to ever come out of the gaming industry, if he wants.

     

    The problem with the OP is he doesn't have ANY POINTS.

    He says GW2 is unoriginal, if you made a post expressing your own opinion about why you think it is original, then you got a discussion, or why you think GW2 does have good gameplay and strategies.

    Simple really.

    So you are here to moderate the GW2 forums?  Very impressive and good luck in your venture, but if I were you I would not be so hypocritical. If you want to discuss the topic then do so. 

     

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  • sinloisinloi Member UncommonPosts: 201
    Originally posted by PieRad
    Originally posted by Alot

     


    Originally posted by PieRad

    Originally posted by Tawn47

    Originally posted by PieRad He isn't trolling, he's expressing his opinion.. And he has every right to do so, it's a forum. You might not share his views, which is also fine, but why do you guys always stamp negative threads with "Troll", is it to make yourself feel better? If the OP was serious, then that's worse!  Calling someone a troll is actually like giving somebody the benefit of the doubt. I just think you GW2 fans need to take some meds to calm down, it doesn't hurt you that someone doesn't share your view of what is in your eyes, gods gift to gamers. Calm down yourself.  Most of us think silly posts like the OP's are hilarious, we aren't hurt.
     
    Why is it worse if he's serious? Because you think his opinion is wrong, and it hurts you?

     

    PieRad, why are you trying so hard to make that last line of your signature apply to you?

     

    Seems to me it applies more to you, but again, opinions.

    opinions are like assholes everyone has one everyone thinks their's doesnt stink...and steven segal owns a time share in all of them.

     

    however the it's only his opinion does only take him so far, by that I mean you cant say for example, dont attack him for shareing his opinon, because the other people posting here are allowed to post their opinions just as much as he is allowed to post his.

    If you walk into a biker bar say every biker is a *insert colorful defacement of your choice here* the bikers should say

    "well we are all entiteled to our own opinions and while I do think you are wrong I commend you for speaking freely"

    while it would be funny(especially me picturing them drinking tea and wearing monocles as they say that) it's not going to happen.

    at worse they will all as one kick his ass, at best they will insult him back.

    what you are saying is he is allowed to come to a forum and basically insult a game, and that IS what he is doing, he wasnt respectfully ciritsizing he was just insulting, which is why people assumed troll.

    It's like if I went up to trekkies dressed in star wars stuff and started bad mouthing star trek "it's boring and unoriginal and cant compare with Star Wars at all etc etc"

    why is it okay for him to come and insult a game we love but we cant insult him back.

    His opinon is are game is a pathetic unoriginal game while WoW and LoL is master.....while it is the opinion of the people before me who posted that he is a troll, jerk, ignorant, etc.

    see both sides are expressing their opinions, the reason why you are getting hated on is you are saying taht he is allowed to express his opinion but everyone else is not.

     

    me personally I could care less, while I do feel his post is a troll thread(again see the star wars star trek example) I tend to suck at insults and feel there is enough hatred on the interwebs.

    so while I do agree with you, as in it would have been easier if they just ignored his opinion all together, others do have the same right he does to  express opinions, even if they are just has hateful trollish and do not aid the game, forum, internet, or universe in general in anyway

  • dageezadageeza Member Posts: 578
    Originally posted by chadoo2137
    Oh wow, a new "Guild Wars" that looks just like every other 3d fantasy mmo on the market right now. I love how the devs are trying to make it sound like they have invented original items and stories when they will obviously be a re-hash of old items with a new twist. Reagardless of what you think, the only lucartive 3D mmo on the market is "WOW."  Graphics are great when you first see them, but after a week, it's old hat. Gameplay and stratagies are what people are looking for in a PVP or PVE battle mmo. This is what is making "League Of Legends" the power house it is right now and only geeting larger. 

    -10

    One of the most uninformed and unoriginal fail trolls i have ever seen...

    Playing GW2..

  • gexz7gexz7 Member Posts: 131
    Stop feeding the troll
  • MarXonMarXon Member Posts: 22
    Originally posted by gexz7
    Stop feeding the troll

    Actually it seems like the OP just dropped the bomb and got out of here. xD

  • MarXonMarXon Member Posts: 22
    Originally posted by PieRad
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Originally posted by PieRad
    Originally posted by seridan
    Originally posted by PieRad

    It is kinda of a get-out-of-jail card, since if you don't incl. that in your post, you'll be met with meaningless responses like the OP, "Troll", instead of discussion.

    And now that people are done with calling OP all kinds shit, they turn their evil GW2 fanboy eyes at me, can't have someone on this forum who likes to see both positives and negatives discussed, it's IMPOSSIBLE! :P

    Just because OP didn't follow what you guys appearently think is a correct way to put up negatives to discuss, doesn't mean you can't discuss OP's points in a civil manner, instead of just dismissing it with "Troll", or just leave the thread all together.

     

    You could discuss why YOU think GW2 is original, why it got tactics involved etc. etc.

     

    But he is very much entitled to think GW2 is the biggest turd to ever come out of the gaming industry, if he wants.

     

    The problem with the OP is he doesn't have ANY POINTS.

    He says GW2 is unoriginal, if you made a post expressing your own opinion about why you think it is original, then you got a discussion, or why you think GW2 does have good gameplay and strategies.

    Simple really.

    So you are here to moderate the GW2 forums?  Very impressive and good luck in your venture, but if I were you I would not be so hypocritical. If you want to discuss the topic then do so. 

     

    [mod edit]


    And everytime you see a post with a positive spin, you dismiss it with "GW2 fanboy". Still being a hypocrit.

  • timeraidertimeraider Member UncommonPosts: 865

    Everyone has his prejudice ... usually i yust avoid the worst ones.

    I still think GW2 will be quite awesome, but if i want i can back it up with facts and have an objective view on it.

    But well, wouldnt be fun if everyone has exactly the same perspective since only 1 game would exsist then.

     

    Ofcourse this doesnt count for the OP who is yust an random troll..

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  • TardcoreTardcore Member Posts: 2,325
    Originally posted by chadoo2137
    Oh wow, a new "Guild Wars" that looks just like every other 3d fantasy mmo on the market right now. I love how the devs are trying to make it sound like they have invented original items and stories when they will obviously be a re-hash of old items with a new twist. Reagardless of what you think, the only lucartive 3D mmo on the market is "WOW."  Graphics are great when you first see them, but after a week, it's old hat. Gameplay and stratagies are what people are looking for in a PVP or PVE battle mmo. This is what is making "League Of Legends" the power house it is right now and only geeting larger. 

    This is not an opinion, it is an indictment that anyone with a differeing viewpoint is automatically wrong no matter what they may think or beleive. This entire post is not an opinion but a closeminded and antaogonistic rant backed up with zero actual ideas be they opinion or otherwise. Its exactly the same as another thread denouncing a unflattering GW2 bogger as an "idiot" without the accuser bothering to put any effort into explaining why he held this view. As if HIS word was LAW and no other evidence needed to be conveyed.

    Moral of the story, if you decided to make an antagonistic and ego driven rant about a hot button topic, on a two year old account with zero former posts, expect your post to be taken as disingenuous, as its highly likely your post is nothing more than a throwaway used for no other intent than to stir up shit.

    In the unlikely event that the OP is a lurker who finally decided to join in the fray, might I suggest you try to convey your thoughts with a bit more decorum and maturity with future postings. Then people may take your ideas seriously.

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  • PieRadPieRad Member Posts: 1,108
    Originally posted by sinloi
    Originally posted by PieRad
    Originally posted by Alot

     


    Originally posted by PieRad

    Originally posted by Tawn47

    Originally posted by PieRad He isn't trolling, he's expressing his opinion.. And he has every right to do so, it's a forum. You might not share his views, which is also fine, but why do you guys always stamp negative threads with "Troll", is it to make yourself feel better? If the OP was serious, then that's worse!  Calling someone a troll is actually like giving somebody the benefit of the doubt. I just think you GW2 fans need to take some meds to calm down, it doesn't hurt you that someone doesn't share your view of what is in your eyes, gods gift to gamers. Calm down yourself.  Most of us think silly posts like the OP's are hilarious, we aren't hurt.
     
    Why is it worse if he's serious? Because you think his opinion is wrong, and it hurts you?

     

    PieRad, why are you trying so hard to make that last line of your signature apply to you?

     

    Seems to me it applies more to you, but again, opinions.

    opinions are like assholes everyone has one everyone thinks their's doesnt stink...and steven segal owns a time share in all of them.

     

    however the it's only his opinion does only take him so far, by that I mean you cant say for example, dont attack him for shareing his opinon, because the other people posting here are allowed to post their opinions just as much as he is allowed to post his.

    If you walk into a biker bar say every biker is a *insert colorful defacement of your choice here* the bikers should say

    "well we are all entiteled to our own opinions and while I do think you are wrong I commend you for speaking freely"

    while it would be funny(especially me picturing them drinking tea and wearing monocles as they say that) it's not going to happen.

    at worse they will all as one kick his ass, at best they will insult him back.

    what you are saying is he is allowed to come to a forum and basically insult a game, and that IS what he is doing, he wasnt respectfully ciritsizing he was just insulting, which is why people assumed troll.

    It's like if I went up to trekkies dressed in star wars stuff and started bad mouthing star trek "it's boring and unoriginal and cant compare with Star Wars at all etc etc"

    why is it okay for him to come and insult a game we love but we cant insult him back.

    His opinon is are game is a pathetic unoriginal game while WoW and LoL is master.....while it is the opinion of the people before me who posted that he is a troll, jerk, ignorant, etc.

    see both sides are expressing their opinions, the reason why you are getting hated on is you are saying taht he is allowed to express his opinion but everyone else is not.

     

    me personally I could care less, while I do feel his post is a troll thread(again see the star wars star trek example) I tend to suck at insults and feel there is enough hatred on the interwebs.

    so while I do agree with you, as in it would have been easier if they just ignored his opinion all together, others do have the same right he does to  express opinions, even if they are just has hateful trollish and do not aid the game, forum, internet, or universe in general in anyway

    Good post.. You're correct..

     

    Maybe he should have chosen his words better to encourage discussion.. But dismissing everything negative with "troll" is just as bad... It's a forum, and we're here to discuss everything good as well as bad about games, that's how I see it.

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  • DignaDigna Member UncommonPosts: 1,994
    Originally posted by PieRad
     
    I ain't here to moderate anything, I just think GW2 fanboys have blinders on.

    Every single time a thread has a negative spin, you dismiss it with "Troll", if the thread is positive, you're all over it, "omg, omg, omg, YES, you're right!!!"

    And yes, you're one of them old man.

    I agree that people are entitled to their opinions but the ONLY post in 2.5 years is a 1 paragraph negative (highly negative) rag, it does tend to point a finger in the direction of  "troll".

    *shrug* If people would stop posting so the thing rolls to the page 2 dead zone, we'd be done.

  • PieRadPieRad Member Posts: 1,108
    Originally posted by MarXon
    Originally posted by PieRad
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Originally posted by PieRad
    Originally posted by seridan
    Originally posted by PieRad

    It is kinda of a get-out-of-jail card, since if you don't incl. that in your post, you'll be met with meaningless responses like the OP, "Troll", instead of discussion.

    And now that people are done with calling OP all kinds shit, they turn their evil GW2 fanboy eyes at me, can't have someone on this forum who likes to see both positives and negatives discussed, it's IMPOSSIBLE! :P

    Just because OP didn't follow what you guys appearently think is a correct way to put up negatives to discuss, doesn't mean you can't discuss OP's points in a civil manner, instead of just dismissing it with "Troll", or just leave the thread all together.

     

    You could discuss why YOU think GW2 is original, why it got tactics involved etc. etc.

     

    But he is very much entitled to think GW2 is the biggest turd to ever come out of the gaming industry, if he wants.

     

    The problem with the OP is he doesn't have ANY POINTS.

    He says GW2 is unoriginal, if you made a post expressing your own opinion about why you think it is original, then you got a discussion, or why you think GW2 does have good gameplay and strategies.

    Simple really.

    So you are here to moderate the GW2 forums?  Very impressive and good luck in your venture, but if I were you I would not be so hypocritical. If you want to discuss the topic then do so. 

     

    I ain't here to moderate anything, I just think GW2 fanboys have blinders on.

    Every single time a thread has a negative spin, you dismiss it with "Troll", if the thread is positive, you're all over it, "omg, omg, omg, YES, you're right!!!"

    And yes, you're one of them old man.


    And everytime you see a post with a positive spin, you dismiss it with "GW2 fanboy". Still being a hypocrit.

    Not really, I'm gonna play the game myself, there is things I like about the game, but I don't let it cloud my judgement.

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  • IcewhiteIcewhite Member Posts: 6,403

    Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  • MargraveMargrave Member RarePosts: 1,371

    I love GW2, and have no interest in WoW at this point.

    Have tried kung fu panda expansion beta, and it's more of the same to me.

    The GW2 beta felt more new and fresh.

  • CenthanCenthan Member Posts: 483

    This thread is one of the most intelligent, thought provoking, and insightful discussions I have seen in a long time.

    I hope I've added to it with my commentary.

  • TardcoreTardcore Member Posts: 2,325
    Originally posted by Icewhite
    Originally posted by Tardcore

    Sorry, I don't speak "Sockpuppet"

    TC, most folks here have a difficult time with the actual definition of "troll", what makes you think they'll get "sockpuppet"?

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  • RoxtarrRoxtarr Member CommonPosts: 1,122
    So the OP doesn't like Guild Wars 2  It's not like he puched your guys's mom or anything. Lighten up, I don't agree with him either.

    If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game.
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  • HomituHomitu Member UncommonPosts: 2,030
    Really guys?  You grace this one post wonder with 77 responses?  If only you gave well-thought-out, intelligent posts so much attention.  
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