Kali offering planetary exploration?

Phoenixs · September 2005

I recently posted that Eve was never going to have planetary exploration in another thread, because of the number of planets. I guess I was wrong ::::24::

I came across this:

Attendees were also given a sneak peek at Kali the next planned expansion for EVE, which promises to bring in a new Asian-based race line and planetary flight/installation bombardment. Lead Designer Dr. Kjartan LeKjart Emilsson showed us a preview of this and it has to be said it was one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen. The graphics in EVE leave a lot of other games behind in a cloud of dust, but seeing a ship flying over an icy mountainous landscape was just breathtaking. We were given a sneak preview of the concept technology for planetary flight and asteroid dungeons, along with a tentative feature list and a look at a LOT of concept art.

Is it really true? Is Eve going to have planetary exploration in the next expansion?

I ordered the E-ON magazine now, because it has alot of details about Kali. ::::01::

rubydragon5 · September 2005

That looks freakon Awesome!!!

I am seriously looking foward to something like that !!!

Bloodgood · September 2005

This looks promising. EvE will be huge if this gets out. If they also could add the thing with walking in spacestations like in EnB. Walk into the stationbar and have a drink with your pilotmates. That would give this game even more depth and perspective. Well thats what i would like ::::01::

Thoemse · September 2005

This is know for a while now but it got a bit quiet about that topic. DEVs showed a client running this on the last fanfest allready wich is a while ago by now.
It will be a while but we are closing in to this great feature i think.
If i recall it right this will be one of the major goals after Kalit expansion.

rubydragon5 · September 2005

Originally posted by Bloodgood
This looks promising. EvE will be huge if this gets out. If they also could add the thing with walking in spacestations like in EnB. Walk into the stationbar and have a drink with your pilotmates. That would give this game even more depth and perspective. Well thats what i would like

If this happened there is NO limits to what eve could accomplish, they would be able to rival almost any new mmorpg coming out.

The shear fact of the social abilities would be fantastic. An avatar would just be awesome if I could walk around in the station and party with my friends.

pirrg · September 2005

Originally posted by rubydragon5
Originally posted by Bloodgood
This looks promising. EvE will be huge if this gets out. If they also could add the thing with walking in spacestations like in EnB. Walk into the stationbar and have a drink with your pilotmates. That would give this game even more depth and perspective. Well thats what i would like

If this happened there is NO limits to what eve could accomplish, they would be able to rival almost any new mmorpg coming out.

The shear fact of the social abilities would be fantastic. An avatar would just be awesome if I could walk around in the station and party with my friends.

Wont ever happen according to the devs themselves. ::::21::

Elnator · September 2005

Originally posted by Bloodgood
This looks promising. EvE will be huge if this gets out. If they also could add the thing with walking in spacestations like in EnB. Walk into the stationbar and have a drink with your pilotmates. That would give this game even more depth and perspective. Well thats what i would like

This alone would be awesome I could care less about planetary exploration. If I want to trudge around on a planet I can play any number of Sci Fi or Fantasy MMO's. I want to play EVE for space flight. But being able to hang out in a station with friends would be ***cool***

Arathrael · September 2005

On the EVE website, under Patch Notes - The Drawingboard (http://myeve.eve-online.com/updates/plannedfeat.asp) they have this:

Simple Planetary Interaction (Populating, Trading, Manufacturing)
Simple planetary interaction is based on having an Outpost which is based around planets in your Sovereign space. If it's uninhabitable, you need to terraform it, if it's uninhabited, you need to move people there from other planets or systems which they don't want to live. You can do simple upgrades to the infrastructure of the planet and start utilizing the manpower for factories which can make complex reactions and even series of complex reactions. Everything (People, Food, Necessities, Materials, Trade Goods) is demanded through the market in that station and so is the supply from that planet (People, Materials, Garbage). Planets of course have different traits and properties and you need to keep people happy and all that stuff, which can be infinately complex or very simple. In any case, a nice idea. This needs a huge and complex math engine which we'll call Mojo, so there is really nothing simple about this ...
Complex Planetary Interaction (Planetary Flight, Resource Gathering, Combat)
This, in contrast to Simple Planetary Interaction means actually flying around the planet, having encounters which you need to shoot/hack/excavate/mine in. This would take further (and complement) the Simple Planetary Interaction by having already populated planets with infrastructure owned by player Sovereignties which can be attacked. Yay.

So they have some pretty ambitious ideas for doing it, but at this stage, it looks like that's all they are - ideas.

Elapsed · September 2005

So, how is getting to the planet going to be handled? It would be awesome if we could just fly down into the atmosphere, but I seriously doubt the engine could handle that. I bet instead it will be some lame zoning system like docking with a station then (insert load screen) talking a shuttle down to the nearest planet.

StealthKill · September 2005

By the way Friends

Its Immpossible For us as players to walk into a space station mainly cause we are limited to a capsule we are submerged in liquids that sustain our lifesignes and filled with so many plugs and electrodes on our head to control the ships that getting out of said pod would be a many hour process irl

Bloodgood · September 2005

Originally posted by StealthKill

By the way Friends
Its Immpossible For us as players to walk into a space station mainly cause we are limited to a capsule we are submerged in liquids that sustain our lifesignes and filled with so many plugs and electrodes on our head to control the ships that getting out of said pod would be a many hour process irl

EvE is not irl

And even if it is as you say it is, putting it on and taking it off doesnt take much time.. havent you seen "Ghost in the shell"?

Bloodgood · September 2005

Originally posted by pirrg

Originally posted by rubydragon5

Originally posted by Bloodgood
This looks promising. EvE will be huge if this gets out. If they also could add the thing with walking in spacestations like in EnB. Walk into the stationbar and have a drink with your pilotmates. That would give this game even more depth and perspective. Well thats what i would like

If this happened there is NO limits to what eve could accomplish, they would be able to rival almost any new mmorpg coming out.

The shear fact of the social abilities would be fantastic. An avatar would just be awesome if I could walk around in the station and party with my friends.

Wont ever happen according to the devs themselves. ::::21::

People can say something and do something else
And you can always hope... They come to their sences..

Puoltry · September 2005

Ok not JUST walking into a station bar.

How about walking into a station bar and seeing the guy who just quit your corp braggin about now much ISK he has?You know they guy who robbed your corp clean?

Being able to go back to your ship and get out the a "gun" you were smuggling go back to the bar and tap the fellow in question on the shoulder?

Or for that matter a station based on a planet like was being shown on that video screen?

To me that would take the game to the next level and then some.Let my avatar walk around and be involved in PvP outside my ship and id come back in a sec.Then again it would mean clothing options and such.

pirrg · October 2005

Originally posted by Bloodgood
Originally posted by pirrg Originally posted by rubydragon5
Originally posted by BloodgoodThis looks promising. EvE will be huge if this gets out. If they also could add the thing with walking in spacestations like in EnB. Walk into the stationbar and have a drink with your pilotmates. That would give this game even more depth and perspective. Well thats what i would like If this happened there is NO limits to what eve could accomplish, they would be able to rival almost any new mmorpg coming out.
The shear fact of the social abilities would be fantastic. An avatar would just be awesome if I could walk around in the station and party with my friends. Wont ever happen according to the devs themselves.
People can say something and do something elseAnd you can always hope... They come to their sences..

Wont happe since its a clink in the continuity. Like someone said before me all pilots are hooked up to computers inside a pod filled with liquid, there is only one way to get removed from the pod once inside and that is by death. Altough i would love to see something like this, i doubt eves rather simple engine could handle it. Ive also heard that they WONT introduce planeteray flight with kali.

Puoltry · October 2005

You did read the 1st post in this thread right?

You did see the client running a PLANETARY background?

Looks like its possible if you ask me.

Arathrael · October 2005

Originally posted by pirrg
Like someone said before me all pilots are hooked up to computers inside a pod filled with liquid

Right.

Originally posted by pirrg
there is only one way to get removed from the pod once inside and that is by death.

Wrong.

Where did you get that from? I can point you to several of the short stories and chronicles on the eve website describing entering and exiting capsules. e.g.:

Gaspar always hated these moments, he relied heavily on his camera drone to get a sense of his whereabouts and with it gone he always became uncomfortably aware of the sticky goo and the blackness enveloping him in the capsule. But this discomfort was offset by the anticipation that in a few minutes hed be free of the confines of the capsule and his senses would again be allowed to feel and function normally.

scaramoosh · October 2005

The devs said you will never be able to get out your ship and walk around.

It's not something they want to do anyways

panjit · October 2005

Originally posted by scaramoosh
The devs said you will never be able to get out your ship and walk around.

It's not something they want to do anyways

Yeh, in a way im glad they have said that they have no plans to do this. It would be such a drastic change, and in my opinion isnt really suited to Eve, unless of course they found a way to give it the depth and complexity it needs to tie in with the rest of the game. I do think planetary interaction would be fine as long as they keep it similar to how players interact with stations, only with more (planet related) options.

Phoenixs · October 2005

Originally posted by scaramoosh
The devs said you will never be able to get out your ship and walk around.

It's not something they want to do anyways

Yeah and I like that. For me that isn't Eve. But I would love planetary exploration.

LordMagnus · October 2005

Originally posted by scaramoosh
The devs said you will never be able to get out your ship and walk around.

It's not something they want to do anyways

Well, that's exactly the reason why I will never play this game. Not saying the game is bad but I don't like being a spaceship all the time. It takes away from the sci fi feeling.

lukesharpe · October 2005

This year's fanfest is just around the corner. Sould be some interesting revelations about Kali at that!

Also, not sure when Kali is due out. But they try to release a major content patch twice a year. We are due one round December, could be a patch, could be Kali!!

Bloodgood · October 2005

Originally posted by lukesharpe
This year's fanfest is just around the corner. Sould be some interesting revelations about Kali at that! Also, not sure when Kali is due out. But they try to release a major content patch twice a year. We are due one round December, could be a patch, could be Kali!!

Keyword here is "try" ::::14::

"Do or do not... there is no try"

Yoda, Star Wars Episode VI "Empire Strikes Back"

lukesharpe · October 2005

There is a mention of planetry flight in the first editon of Eve Online Magazine EON. But still no confirmation.

Also, for those that can't afford a subscription to Eve, here is an online version of the game that inspired it...

Elite online

squeee · October 2005

Planetary Instalations eh? I wonder what they will do and how many millions per month one will cost me... And I wonder if bombardments will only be able to be performed by dreads. Sounds interesting, yet more isk sinks 4tw!

lemuiexm · October 2005

One would assume that any planetary interaction would be vehicle based simply because its easier to implement. Creating character movement is far more difficult that creating a hovercraft of somesort.

Way back a thousand years ago I played a game on Sega Genesis where you flew around in your ship landing on planets mining resources, fighting off baddies on both planets and space... never once did you "see" your character. You were in essence the ship and/or the ground vehicle.

Its logical to think the same thing would happen here. and thats not even cosidering the sheer quantity of worlds they would have to account for... If I remember correctly the Sega game made you survey the planet for "favorable" conditions i.e. couldnt land on a gas giant obviously.

panjit · October 2005

Originally posted by lukesharpe
This year's fanfest is just around the corner. Sould be some interesting revelations about Kali at that! Also, not sure when Kali is due out. But they try to release a major content patch twice a year. We are due one round December, could be a patch, could be Kali!!

According to the eve mag (which on a different note, is absoloutely awesome) Kali is due early 2006, and Carriers and Titans due to hit live before the end of this year.

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