Nope frome what I ve experienced, nothing is hard. Maybe later I ll find some, but the game has no real consequences, so it is opinion. You can argue it all die, but from what I ve exoerienced, it s not hard.
so because you played a VERY tiny portion of the game the entire game is easy.. because you experienced a very tiny portion of the game you feel you know what it's all about.. right... again dislike the game all you want but spreading false information about what the entire game is about is sad.
Beleive it or not I like the game for what it is, to me, wait for it an opinion, a second game to pass time, when I m bored. Now as I said previously, what I ve experienced , it is some of the easiest gameplay I ve ever experienced, hence a good casual second, when I m bored game. Now, i ll explain what I think is a hard game. First hard dungeons to get some , little better then good gear isn t a hard game to me, again opinion. A hard game is harsh death penalty, GW2 death penalty isn t hard. A hard game is mobs can kick your ass , if you re not ready for the fight, or you accidently grab an add or 2. GW2 not so much, at first, when I played a BWE, I though , oh wow a challenging game. Until I figured out the combat, and it became extremely easy. Etc etc/ ALl opinions, like it or not.
I know exactly where you're coming from. I think a ton of us have been feeling like this as of late. We all have our fingers crossed for GW2 and high hopes. Ive played every beta even though and have a hard time putting it down. Cant wait!
Nope frome what I ve experienced, nothing is hard. Maybe later I ll find some, but the game has no real consequences, so it is opinion. You can argue it all die, but from what I ve exoerienced, it s not hard.
so because you played a VERY tiny portion of the game the entire game is easy.. because you experienced a very tiny portion of the game you feel you know what it's all about.. right... again dislike the game all you want but spreading false information about what the entire game is about is sad.
Beleive it or not I like the game for what it is, to me, wait for it an opinion, a second game to pass time, when I m bored. Now as I said previously, what I ve experienced , it is some of the easiest gameplay I ve ever experienced, hence a good casual second, when I m bored game. Now, i ll explain what I think is a hard game. First hard dungeons to get some , little better then good gear isn t a hard game to me, again opinion. A hard game is harsh death penalty, GW2 death penalty isn t hard. A hard game is mobs can kick your ass , if you re not ready for the fight, or you accidently grab an add or 2. GW2 not so much, at first, when I played a BWE, I though , oh wow a challenging game. Until I figured out the combat, and it became extremely easy. Etc etc/ ALl opinions, like it or not.
again your are baising the entire game off a very small portion and the easiest portion at that .. what MMO is difficult at the start? aside from maybe EVE but that's mostly the laerning curve. Hell what MMO is difficult until end-game for the most part? your argument a game needs a harsh death penalty to be considering difficult just makes no sense at all.
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Leucent needs to look up the meaning of opinion....
"Nothing in it is hard" assumes that you have done everything in it. That's not an opinion, that's actually a lie. At best it's an uniformed opinion (meaning he/she is ignorant) and at worst an attempt to rile people who know that this conclusion can't be come to through the BWE's (a troll).
Which is it?
You wonder why fans defend the game when you say things like this? Come on...
Nope frome what I ve experienced, nothing is hard. Maybe later I ll find some, but the game has no real consequences, so it is opinion. You can argue it all die, but from what I ve exoerienced, it s not hard.
so because you played a VERY tiny portion of the game the entire game is easy.. because you experienced a very tiny portion of the game you feel you know what it's all about.. right... again dislike the game all you want but spreading false information about what the entire game is about is sad.
Beleive it or not I like the game for what it is, to me, wait for it an opinion, a second game to pass time, when I m bored. Now as I said previously, what I ve experienced , it is some of the easiest gameplay I ve ever experienced, hence a good casual second, when I m bored game. Now, i ll explain what I think is a hard game. First hard dungeons to get some , little better then good gear isn t a hard game to me, again opinion. A hard game is harsh death penalty, GW2 death penalty isn t hard. A hard game is mobs can kick your ass , if you re not ready for the fight, or you accidently grab an add or 2. GW2 not so much, at first, when I played a BWE, I though , oh wow a challenging game. Until I figured out the combat, and it became extremely easy. Etc etc/ ALl opinions, like it or not.
again your are baising the entire game off a very small portion and the easiest portion at that .. what MMO is difficult at the start? aside from maybe EVE but that's mostly the laerning curve. Hell what MMO is difficult until end-game for the most part? your argument a game needs a harsh death penalty to be considering difficult just makes no sense at all.
Actually, I have to agree. One of the hardest games, because of it s death penalty was FFXI. A hard game to someone, is opinion, so not sure why it doesn t make sense to you. He/she thinks thats what constitutes a hard game, so be it, why does it matter. I myself really like GW2, will it be the one, I doubt it, a couple months fun sure, but not the game to end all games.
Leucent needs to look up the meaning of opinion....
"Nothing in it is hard" assumes that you have done everything in it. That's not an opinion, that's actually a lie. At best it's an uniformed opinion (meaning he/she is ignorant) and at worst an attempt to rile people who know that this conclusion can't be come to through the BWE's (a troll).
Which is it?
You wonder why fans defend the game when you say things like this? Come on...
that's the point I could care less how much people hate or bash any game but spreading lies about it is pretty sad imho
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Nope frome what I ve experienced, nothing is hard. Maybe later I ll find some, but the game has no real consequences, so it is opinion. You can argue it all die, but from what I ve exoerienced, it s not hard.
so because you played a VERY tiny portion of the game the entire game is easy.. because you experienced a very tiny portion of the game you feel you know what it's all about.. right... again dislike the game all you want but spreading false information about what the entire game is about is sad.
Beleive it or not I like the game for what it is, to me, wait for it an opinion, a second game to pass time, when I m bored. Now as I said previously, what I ve experienced , it is some of the easiest gameplay I ve ever experienced, hence a good casual second, when I m bored game. Now, i ll explain what I think is a hard game. First hard dungeons to get some , little better then good gear isn t a hard game to me, again opinion. A hard game is harsh death penalty, GW2 death penalty isn t hard. A hard game is mobs can kick your ass , if you re not ready for the fight, or you accidently grab an add or 2. GW2 not so much, at first, when I played a BWE, I though , oh wow a challenging game. Until I figured out the combat, and it became extremely easy. Etc etc/ ALl opinions, like it or not.
again your are baising the entire game off a very small portion and the easiest portion at that .. what MMO is difficult at the start? aside from maybe EVE but that's mostly the laerning curve. Hell what MMO is difficult until end-game for the most part? your argument a game needs a harsh death penalty to be considering difficult just makes no sense at all.
Actually, I have to agree. One of the hardest games, because of it s death penalty was FFXI. A hard game to someone, is opinion, so not sure why it doesn t make sense to you. He/she thinks thats what constitutes a hard game, so be it, why does it matter. I myself really like GW2, will it be the one, I doubt it, a couple months fun sure, but not the game to end all games.
FFXI wasn't only hard because of its death penatly that just added to it... what I don't understand is how you can say a game is not hard JUST because it doesn't have a steep death penalty
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Nope frome what I ve experienced, nothing is hard. Maybe later I ll find some, but the game has no real consequences, so it is opinion. You can argue it all die, but from what I ve exoerienced, it s not hard.
so because you played a VERY tiny portion of the game the entire game is easy.. because you experienced a very tiny portion of the game you feel you know what it's all about.. right... again dislike the game all you want but spreading false information about what the entire game is about is sad.
Beleive it or not I like the game for what it is, to me, wait for it an opinion, a second game to pass time, when I m bored. Now as I said previously, what I ve experienced , it is some of the easiest gameplay I ve ever experienced, hence a good casual second, when I m bored game. Now, i ll explain what I think is a hard game. First hard dungeons to get some , little better then good gear isn t a hard game to me, again opinion. A hard game is harsh death penalty, GW2 death penalty isn t hard. A hard game is mobs can kick your ass , if you re not ready for the fight, or you accidently grab an add or 2. GW2 not so much, at first, when I played a BWE, I though , oh wow a challenging game. Until I figured out the combat, and it became extremely easy. Etc etc/ ALl opinions, like it or not.
again your are baising the entire game off a very small portion and the easiest portion at that .. what MMO is difficult at the start? aside from maybe EVE but that's mostly the laerning curve. Hell what MMO is difficult until end-game for the most part? your argument a game needs a harsh death penalty to be considering difficult just makes no sense at all.
Actually, I have to agree. One of the hardest games, because of it s death penalty was FFXI. A hard game to someone, is opinion, so not sure why it doesn t make sense to you. He/she thinks thats what constitutes a hard game, so be it, why does it matter. I myself really like GW2, will it be the one, I doubt it, a couple months fun sure, but not the game to end all games.
FFXI wasn't only hard because of its death penatly that just added to it... what I don't understand is how you can say a game is not hard JUST because it doesn't have a steep death penalty
Pretty simple, you don t want to die. When dieing is meaningless, it makes a game easy. Not sure why you can t see that.
For me, GW2 is the first MMO since WoW I can actually picture myself playing over the very long term. I've been pretty good at estimating the longevity of the many other MMOs I've bet tested, then gone on to play, over the years. The estimates have always been a few weeks to two or three months. The flaws that were obvious to me all turned out to limit longevity in the exact ways I predicted.
I'm relieved to finally have an MMO that I feel confident I will still be playing a year after release. A long term commitment and an to the hunt for "the MMO for me", for a while anyway.
The game has many of the things I would want from "The One", but the game is also not perfect, so that "perfect MMO" will still be something I will be hoping to find in my lifetime. However, it's definitely "The One" for me, for now and for the forseeable future. In many ways, this is the MMO I've been waiting for since I started playing MMOs almost 14 years ago. It also points the way towards the next possible evolution of the genre and erases the "lost generations" of MMO design, where too many developers did nothing but try to clone WoW, while never actually succeeding at even that.
Pretty simple, you don t want to die. When dieing is meaningless, it makes a game easy. Not sure why you can t see that.
guess we just have a diffen't idea of what makes a game easy.. if I can't beat an encounter because the encounter is really difficult don't see why it would matter what sort of penalty i got for dying.. hard fights are hard fights.. for me harsher death penalty generally just = more frustration in MMOs.. especially how most do the penalty where you just loose a chunk of your XP bar.
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Pretty simple, you don t want to die. When dieing is meaningless, it makes a game easy. Not sure why you can t see that.
guess we just have a diffen't idea of what makes a game easy.. if I can't beat an encounter because the encounter is really difficult don't see why it would matter what sort of penalty i got for dying.. hard fights are hard fights
Fair enough, hard encounters don t make a game hard to me because you ll eventually beat it. Harsh death penalty is always there and unbeatable. I loved the level down from FFXI death. What it bolils down to is all games nowadays are too easy, and I miss the old days, of everything being a challenge. I guess maybe I don t like the direction MMOs are going, and without WvW in GW2 I find it not the game everyone was talking about. I can see people liking it, but these easy mode MMOs nowadays are really starting to annoy me. Back in the day people wouldn t ask how long will you play an MMO, but now it s a month or 2 of fun. That isn t a long lasting appeal, and I m afraid, I think GW2 is going to be the same for many people, note I didn t say all.
Well Guild Wars 2 be the one (?) Its free to play number one no fees , They well have us do other events and so on there well be lots to do I know some people would just make A toon play for A sec then say meh... ! Then start on another toon try it out then be please on the skills but you guys need to give it A try its new like I played Guild Wars 1 it had issues with builds not compleated the beta was yuck at the first time they made it I was like ok I give it A go still then they fixed it patches made it look better I bought the game for $50.00 at EBgames they told me this is in beta still not full game you still want it yes or no (?)
I said yes please it look sweet the art was sick playing on A 1.3 gig system with 1 gig of memory and A Gforce 4 ti 4400 I was happy then I had to upgrade my pc to play Factions Nightfall And then Eye Of The North . I was happy when they fix the speatch on the cut seens I was glad they did A major fixes on the games its old I still play it time to time I am 50 out of 50 my account is 84 months old I got all my stuff I beaten all campains and now I am ready to throw down in "Guild Wars 2 " look out .. (L O L ) I two played all beta's and stress test Oh its my eye candy open wide I got sweettooth for this game .
Pretty simple, you don t want to die. When dieing is meaningless, it makes a game easy. Not sure why you can t see that.
Being a good Canadian boy and the fact that you appear to prefer pain and punishment to having fun ...Why don't you attach an electrical wire to your testicles and give it a charge each time you have a death in game . Better yet since I'm a good sport how about we hook up for some pvp and perhaps I could help you with the death count a bit
Pretty simple, you don t want to die. When dieing is meaningless, it makes a game easy. Not sure why you can t see that.
guess we just have a diffen't idea of what makes a game easy.. if I can't beat an encounter because the encounter is really difficult don't see why it would matter what sort of penalty i got for dying.. hard fights are hard fights
Fair enough, hard encounters don t make a game hard to me because you ll eventually beat it. Harsh death penalty is always there and unbeatable. I loved the level down from FFXI death. What it bolils down to is all games nowadays are too easy, and I miss the old days, of everything being a challenge. I guess maybe I don t like the direction MMOs are going, and without WvW in GW2 I find it not the game everyone was talking about. I can see people liking it, but these easy mode MMOs nowadays are really starting to annoy me. Back in the day people wouldn t ask how long will you play an MMO, but now it s a month or 2 of fun. That isn t a long lasting appeal, and I m afraid, I think GW2 is going to be the same for many people, note I didn t say all.
guess we will have to agree to disagree.. i feel more people just want to enjoy their games and have a good time.. I have not really met many that feel harsh penalties = fun in most cases. If that was the case think perma death type games would be more popular
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Pretty simple, you don t want to die. When dieing is meaningless, it makes a game easy. Not sure why you can t see that.
Being a good Canadian boy and the fact that you appear top prefer pain and punishment to having fun ...Why don't you attach an electrical wire to your testicles and give it a charge each time you have a death in game . Better yet since I'm a good sport how about we hook up for some pvp and perhaps I could help you with the death count a bit
Pretty simple, you don t want to die. When dieing is meaningless, it makes a game easy. Not sure why you can t see that.
guess we just have a diffen't idea of what makes a game easy.. if I can't beat an encounter because the encounter is really difficult don't see why it would matter what sort of penalty i got for dying.. hard fights are hard fights
Fair enough, hard encounters don t make a game hard to me because you ll eventually beat it. Harsh death penalty is always there and unbeatable. I loved the level down from FFXI death. What it bolils down to is all games nowadays are too easy, and I miss the old days, of everything being a challenge. I guess maybe I don t like the direction MMOs are going, and without WvW in GW2 I find it not the game everyone was talking about. I can see people liking it, but these easy mode MMOs nowadays are really starting to annoy me. Back in the day people wouldn t ask how long will you play an MMO, but now it s a month or 2 of fun. That isn t a long lasting appeal, and I m afraid, I think GW2 is going to be the same for many people, note I didn t say all.
guess we will have to agree to disagree.. feel more people just want to enjoy their games and have a good time.. I have not really met many that feel harsh penalties = fun in most cases. If that was the case think perma death type games would be more popular
Perma death, nope. Hard, where I have to think, worry about my surroundings, make smart decisions, or make smarter decisions next time is what I meant. I Know theres alot of people that like GW2 I m not denying it, but I also know theres alot of people who blow through content, and say "I m bored " faster then most people hit 20% of a games content. This is why I say alot will be bored.
Gw2 will have a huge pop, we know that, but I m not convinced games like GW2, which I think is easy compared to what I like, and opinion, and not lieing, are not the only answer to MMOs..
Originally posted by Eir_S Oh you're one of those death penalty people. What are there like, 10 of you left?
Yep, amongst the millions of lemmings. Really, death penalty is part of it, hard gaems where you have to think, outise 2-3 buttone is what I mean, but whatever floats your boat.
Pretty simple, you don t want to die. When dieing is meaningless, it makes a game easy. Not sure why you can t see that.
guess we just have a diffen't idea of what makes a game easy.. if I can't beat an encounter because the encounter is really difficult don't see why it would matter what sort of penalty i got for dying.. hard fights are hard fights
Fair enough, hard encounters don t make a game hard to me because you ll eventually beat it. Harsh death penalty is always there and unbeatable. I loved the level down from FFXI death. What it bolils down to is all games nowadays are too easy, and I miss the old days, of everything being a challenge. I guess maybe I don t like the direction MMOs are going, and without WvW in GW2 I find it not the game everyone was talking about. I can see people liking it, but these easy mode MMOs nowadays are really starting to annoy me. Back in the day people wouldn t ask how long will you play an MMO, but now it s a month or 2 of fun. That isn t a long lasting appeal, and I m afraid, I think GW2 is going to be the same for many people, note I didn t say all.
guess we will have to agree to disagree.. feel more people just want to enjoy their games and have a good time.. I have not really met many that feel harsh penalties = fun in most cases. If that was the case think perma death type games would be more popular
Perma death, nope. Hard, where I have to think, worry about my surroundings, make smart decisions, or make smarter decisions next time is what I meant. I Know theres alot of people that like GW2 I m not denying it, but I also know theres alot of people who blow through content, and say "I m bored " faster then most people hit 20% of a games content. This is why I say alot will be bored.
Gw2 will have a huge pop, we know that, but I m not convinced games like GW2, which I think is easy compared to what I like, and opinion, and not lieing, are not the only answer to MMOs..
Your definition of hard is quite broad. In fact, looking at that, there might only be about a very select games to your liking at the level difficulty you require. Death is an inevitability in most games, specially games that require skill over button mashing, but to value your life over valuing the combat is 2 different things. If they made death so encombursome as to your liking, then they would have to nerf or even out combat so death is only for those who are careless enough to not take it seriously. So they would have to nerf GW2 combat for the latter, which would annoy the rest of the crowd. Is that fair for everyone? No, so your opinion is fine as it is, but it doesn't hit the community as a whole. The challenge is there in skill for the combat rather than in death, this isn't hardcore mode in diablo, but death penalty is a very hard appraoch for games. Look at Diablo 3, they buffed death penalty to make it more severe, then realized they overdid it and went back a notch. Most people complain about this in a more casual setting that GW2 offers as they do in Diablo 3. Do they complain about death penalties in WoW that they had to nerf it? No, because that game isn't based off skill, it's based off learning and controlling fights for PvE standard and doesn't punish hard at all in PvP. GW2 is a step up in skill from WoW and thus won't overdo the death penalty to keep the community strong and the players from getting frustrated.
How many times do you think people only did Act 1 of inferno because Act 2-4 were not worth the repair cost after the patch? It was seldom done at all since the rewards did not out weigh the cost. People got frustrated that they would end up with a net loss almost every run due to lack of drops and high repair costs. Is that fair for the average gamer? I feel like the average gamer would rather a death by death basis that shows them what they did wrong and what they can improve on over guess what you died now you lose half your gold, half your exp, and you have to wait 10 min to respawn. It's just not a challenge to most of us, it's more of a huge cinderblock held over our head saying "if you dont get it right the first time, you get crushed" instead of a brick falling on your foot that teaches us the lesson without destroying our play experience in the process.
GW2 will be dead for you if you are a PvE, but might last a bit longer if you are into PvP, since 5 man dungeons never last more than a few times. But imo i think it is worth buying no matter what you are into because as a mmo fan, you must buy every over hyped mmo out there, just so there could be a chance for the feeling of domination.
Originally posted by Eir_S Oh you're one of those death penalty people. What are there like, 10 of you left?
Yep, amongst the millions of lemmings. Really, death penalty is part of it, hard gaems where you have to think, outise 2-3 buttone is what I mean, but whatever floats your boat.
The game is not designed for a death penalty, the encounters in dungeons will be far too difficult... after wiping a few times, you wouldn't have the power to finish the dungeon if this were GW1. You're not going to avoid death, no matter how much you "think".
But I can tell by your amazing grammar and logic that you are a real "thinker".
Originally posted by sintenal84k GW2 will be dead for you if you are a PvE, but might last a bit longer if you are into PvP, since 5 man dungeons never last more than a few times. But imo i think it is worth buying no matter what you are into because as a mmo fan, you must buy every over hyped mmo out there, just so there could be a chance for the feeling of domination.
Not into PvP, never really have. Played the occasional BG, played arena, way too selective IMO. Raided for years now. But I'm still buying it. Am I special or something?
Edit: Also not huge into the whole leveling thing in games. Leveled maybe 3-4 chars max in WoW to 80, not 85 only 1 to that. Leveled 1 to max in rift and 1 in swtor, never wanted to level another to max after. So clearly leveling isn't my thing either. I played for raids, so what gets me into this game so much? The hype? pshhhh
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Beleive it or not I like the game for what it is, to me, wait for it an opinion, a second game to pass time, when I m bored. Now as I said previously, what I ve experienced , it is some of the easiest gameplay I ve ever experienced, hence a good casual second, when I m bored game. Now, i ll explain what I think is a hard game. First hard dungeons to get some , little better then good gear isn t a hard game to me, again opinion. A hard game is harsh death penalty, GW2 death penalty isn t hard. A hard game is mobs can kick your ass , if you re not ready for the fight, or you accidently grab an add or 2. GW2 not so much, at first, when I played a BWE, I though , oh wow a challenging game. Until I figured out the combat, and it became extremely easy. Etc etc/ ALl opinions, like it or not.
Play for fun. Play to win. Play for perfection. Play with friends. Play in another world. Why do you play?
again your are baising the entire game off a very small portion and the easiest portion at that .. what MMO is difficult at the start? aside from maybe EVE but that's mostly the laerning curve. Hell what MMO is difficult until end-game for the most part? your argument a game needs a harsh death penalty to be considering difficult just makes no sense at all.
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Ok.
Leucent needs to look up the meaning of opinion....
"Nothing in it is hard" assumes that you have done everything in it. That's not an opinion, that's actually a lie. At best it's an uniformed opinion (meaning he/she is ignorant) and at worst an attempt to rile people who know that this conclusion can't be come to through the BWE's (a troll).
Which is it?
You wonder why fans defend the game when you say things like this? Come on...
Actually, I have to agree. One of the hardest games, because of it s death penalty was FFXI. A hard game to someone, is opinion, so not sure why it doesn t make sense to you. He/she thinks thats what constitutes a hard game, so be it, why does it matter. I myself really like GW2, will it be the one, I doubt it, a couple months fun sure, but not the game to end all games.
that's the point I could care less how much people hate or bash any game but spreading lies about it is pretty sad imho
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
FFXI wasn't only hard because of its death penatly that just added to it... what I don't understand is how you can say a game is not hard JUST because it doesn't have a steep death penalty
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Pretty simple, you don t want to die. When dieing is meaningless, it makes a game easy. Not sure why you can t see that.
For me, GW2 is the first MMO since WoW I can actually picture myself playing over the very long term. I've been pretty good at estimating the longevity of the many other MMOs I've bet tested, then gone on to play, over the years. The estimates have always been a few weeks to two or three months. The flaws that were obvious to me all turned out to limit longevity in the exact ways I predicted.
I'm relieved to finally have an MMO that I feel confident I will still be playing a year after release. A long term commitment and an to the hunt for "the MMO for me", for a while anyway.
The game has many of the things I would want from "The One", but the game is also not perfect, so that "perfect MMO" will still be something I will be hoping to find in my lifetime. However, it's definitely "The One" for me, for now and for the forseeable future. In many ways, this is the MMO I've been waiting for since I started playing MMOs almost 14 years ago. It also points the way towards the next possible evolution of the genre and erases the "lost generations" of MMO design, where too many developers did nothing but try to clone WoW, while never actually succeeding at even that.
Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated
guess we just have a diffen't idea of what makes a game easy.. if I can't beat an encounter because the encounter is really difficult don't see why it would matter what sort of penalty i got for dying.. hard fights are hard fights.. for me harsher death penalty generally just = more frustration in MMOs.. especially how most do the penalty where you just loose a chunk of your XP bar.
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Fair enough, hard encounters don t make a game hard to me because you ll eventually beat it. Harsh death penalty is always there and unbeatable. I loved the level down from FFXI death. What it bolils down to is all games nowadays are too easy, and I miss the old days, of everything being a challenge. I guess maybe I don t like the direction MMOs are going, and without WvW in GW2 I find it not the game everyone was talking about. I can see people liking it, but these easy mode MMOs nowadays are really starting to annoy me. Back in the day people wouldn t ask how long will you play an MMO, but now it s a month or 2 of fun. That isn t a long lasting appeal, and I m afraid, I think GW2 is going to be the same for many people, note I didn t say all.
Well Guild Wars 2 be the one (?) Its free to play number one no fees , They well have us do other events and so on there well be lots to do I know some people would just make A toon play for A sec then say meh... ! Then start on another toon try it out then be please on the skills but you guys need to give it A try its new like I played Guild Wars 1 it had issues with builds not compleated the beta was yuck at the first time they made it I was like ok I give it A go still then they fixed it patches made it look better I bought the game for $50.00 at EBgames they told me this is in beta still not full game you still want it yes or no (?)
I said yes please it look sweet the art was sick playing on A 1.3 gig system with 1 gig of memory and A Gforce 4 ti 4400 I was happy then I had to upgrade my pc to play Factions Nightfall And then Eye Of The North . I was happy when they fix the speatch on the cut seens I was glad they did A major fixes on the games its old I still play it time to time I am 50 out of 50 my account is 84 months old I got all my stuff I beaten all campains and now I am ready to throw down in "Guild Wars 2 " look out .. (L O L ) I two played all beta's and stress test Oh its my eye candy open wide I got sweettooth for this game .
Can't wait for it to go live soon
Being a good Canadian boy and the fact that you appear to prefer pain and punishment to having fun ...Why don't you attach an electrical wire to your testicles and give it a charge each time you have a death in game . Better yet since I'm a good sport how about we hook up for some pvp and perhaps I could help you with the death count a bit
guess we will have to agree to disagree.. i feel more people just want to enjoy their games and have a good time.. I have not really met many that feel harsh penalties = fun in most cases. If that was the case think perma death type games would be more popular
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
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Perma death, nope. Hard, where I have to think, worry about my surroundings, make smart decisions, or make smarter decisions next time is what I meant. I Know theres alot of people that like GW2 I m not denying it, but I also know theres alot of people who blow through content, and say "I m bored " faster then most people hit 20% of a games content. This is why I say alot will be bored.
Gw2 will have a huge pop, we know that, but I m not convinced games like GW2, which I think is easy compared to what I like, and opinion, and not lieing, are not the only answer to MMOs..
Yep, amongst the millions of lemmings. Really, death penalty is part of it, hard gaems where you have to think, outise 2-3 buttone is what I mean, but whatever floats your boat.
Your definition of hard is quite broad. In fact, looking at that, there might only be about a very select games to your liking at the level difficulty you require. Death is an inevitability in most games, specially games that require skill over button mashing, but to value your life over valuing the combat is 2 different things. If they made death so encombursome as to your liking, then they would have to nerf or even out combat so death is only for those who are careless enough to not take it seriously. So they would have to nerf GW2 combat for the latter, which would annoy the rest of the crowd. Is that fair for everyone? No, so your opinion is fine as it is, but it doesn't hit the community as a whole. The challenge is there in skill for the combat rather than in death, this isn't hardcore mode in diablo, but death penalty is a very hard appraoch for games. Look at Diablo 3, they buffed death penalty to make it more severe, then realized they overdid it and went back a notch. Most people complain about this in a more casual setting that GW2 offers as they do in Diablo 3. Do they complain about death penalties in WoW that they had to nerf it? No, because that game isn't based off skill, it's based off learning and controlling fights for PvE standard and doesn't punish hard at all in PvP. GW2 is a step up in skill from WoW and thus won't overdo the death penalty to keep the community strong and the players from getting frustrated.
How many times do you think people only did Act 1 of inferno because Act 2-4 were not worth the repair cost after the patch? It was seldom done at all since the rewards did not out weigh the cost. People got frustrated that they would end up with a net loss almost every run due to lack of drops and high repair costs. Is that fair for the average gamer? I feel like the average gamer would rather a death by death basis that shows them what they did wrong and what they can improve on over guess what you died now you lose half your gold, half your exp, and you have to wait 10 min to respawn. It's just not a challenge to most of us, it's more of a huge cinderblock held over our head saying "if you dont get it right the first time, you get crushed" instead of a brick falling on your foot that teaches us the lesson without destroying our play experience in the process.
The game is not designed for a death penalty, the encounters in dungeons will be far too difficult... after wiping a few times, you wouldn't have the power to finish the dungeon if this were GW1. You're not going to avoid death, no matter how much you "think".
But I can tell by your amazing grammar and logic that you are a real "thinker".
Not into PvP, never really have. Played the occasional BG, played arena, way too selective IMO. Raided for years now. But I'm still buying it. Am I special or something?
Edit: Also not huge into the whole leveling thing in games. Leveled maybe 3-4 chars max in WoW to 80, not 85 only 1 to that. Leveled 1 to max in rift and 1 in swtor, never wanted to level another to max after. So clearly leveling isn't my thing either. I played for raids, so what gets me into this game so much? The hype? pshhhh