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How long until GW2 is proclaimed a failure by the masses?
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Why not? I'm tired of Fantasy. Where are the good sci fi games at? If I see one more Elf or Gnome I'm gonna puke up my Lucky Charms. I don't doubt GW2 is a good gmae, but my god man get off the fantasy kick. It's been almost 20 years. Can we please get some decent variations in the genre?
"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"
I would certainly hope so but i'm not getting my hopes up that high due to personal first hand knowledge of just how crazed SW fans can be. They'd buy anything with SW on the cover just because....
its a good thing there are no elves or gnomes right?
I'd say copies sold, which according to number means that it has already become a success. But I believe the idea here is, when will the fans turn on it?
Oh, I agree that it will be nice to have more sci-fi MMOs. I'm definitely not against variety. That doesn't mean I'm tired of fantasy though. *shrugs* Also, I care more for gameplay than for setting. I wont play a game just because it has a different setting, if I dislike the mechanics.
The masses can suck it. I make my own decisions/opinions when I have the information I need to do so.
Asking to throw wild guesses might be considered thus on THIS site, but on most parts of the internet it's considered a useless and troll~ endeavour.
Amount of copies sold and state of servers population wise I would imagine is what most would use.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
SW:TOR is -----> that way. There's your "Sci-Fi" game. Now that you've seen how horrible it is, that's why they're not made.
Tabula Ras was a Sci-Fi game, a good premise of one at that. However, it's execution was horrible, and the popularity of the game was minimal. Though it had greater dynamic invasions than those of Rift, and a nice aiming 3rd person/1st person shooter mechanic with it. Just if the engine was more evolved and less cloned worlds it would have somewhat worked.
Oh, and on the horizon there is Planet Side 2. Beta is available to those that pre-order and/or have PS1 accounts.
So there you have. An explaination of why Sci-Fi MMO's have failed in the past, as well as some up-coming ones for the future. You can now leave Guild Wars 2 forums to those that actually ENJOY the fantasy genre, please never return.
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I don't hate fantasy, but I mean how many times can I save the kingdom from a Dragon, or fletch arrows? I'm letting my guild field test GW2, but I will probably pick it up just to have on the side. B2P is great and works for every other genre. DayZ finally opened some eyes to the demand for a survival based MMO. I just hope it catches on. I want RISK VS REWARD. I can't stand this gear grind treadmill crap. I'm off to play more Darkwind. I am on a noble quest to capture a De Lorean and re skin it to look like the Time Machine.
"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"
my review of GW2
that's the cop-out so people don't have to deal with it.
Your predictions of failure are shocking and so unlike your other posts.
"Loading screens" are not "instances".
Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.
Is it 20-9 yet and was I proven wrong?
my review of GW2
I doubt "the masses" will even hit lvl 80 in two weeks.
Unless we have different definition of masses. Which is entirely possible considering some of the many replies in this thread.
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Yes, because for some reason MMO's are about "end-game". Oh wait! That's single player games. MMO's are about being part of a living, breathing virtual world. Having adventures in said world. Doing things that are memorable with friends and guildies alike. Getting lost in 4hrs of Keg Brawl for no other reason than to have FUN! (which I've done during BWE3 and several stress tests).
So, to sum it up, take your WoW-definition of MMO's being about end-game raiding and carrot chasing gear tredmills and SHOVE IT!
Oh so you have played the endgame.. Tell us how you have beaten zhaitan, crafted the legendary weapons, completed all Explorable dungeons, conquered wvwvw ladder, fully unlocked pvp lockers, completed all puzzles in all maps, defeated all world bosses, finished personal story for each race's each different story twist, won monthly, yearly tournaments, mastered the mini-games.
Guild Wars 2 is the ultimate end-game game, end game is the whole game. They have even listened to slow-minded people like you and added skill point grind after 80 level.
Your historical knowledge of sci fi mmo's is pretty pathetic. You site the worst one ever made that's a plus. I agree Tabula Rasa had issues, but it was a good game. You may have overlooked the most succesful one... A little game called EvE Online. You explaination hardly even scratched the surface of why the genre has failed. You cited 2 titles... WOW you must've researched so hard to comem up with all of those examples. How about I list off a few for you now....
Starquest Online - Ultima Online meets Star Trek... Horrible Developers who basically extorted the community for patches and content. Game is still up and running, but has under 20 players total.
Shores of Hazeron - Sim City meets Wurm Meets Star Trek... great game, but a little too slow for my taste. Too much city management. It does have an amazing ship builder that lets you create fully customized ships with player crews.
Face of Mankind - Good game, but since I wasn't interested in the political game I found myself just randomly running around shooting people.
All of these games were independent and had any of them had the financial backing of a AAA developer would have blown the competition out of the vacuum.
Then of course you forgot the biggest flop in sci fi... Star Trek Online. This game should have been so much more than an arcade shooter. It could have been the great sandbox that people have wanted. They said it was impossible to have player starship crews, but Starquest Online proved them wrong.
"I am not in a server with Gankers...THEY ARE IN A SERVER WITH ME!!!"
No one knows about engame other than the framework mechanics.
Well, sadly one has to report things like this, but in general i feel sorry for people posting things like this, what in earth can have made people negative like that?
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
Just Sylvari and Asura...
On 09/29/12, the game will be left with ZERO subs. Fail.
Will also fail because it "Failed to kill WoW".
"When you're born you're naked, when you die you're naked again, and in-between all we do is work, eat, and play MMOs." ~Forum Warrior #141