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WOW Changed MMOs & GW2 Will Change MMOs
MARTYB2K
Member Posts: 167
in Guild Wars 2
Seriously, this is the first MMO since WOW launched over 7 years ago which will get really big. Here is why:
Very good game that's polished.
Very little technical problems.
Lots of good features from the start.
I predict over 5 million people will be playing soon. ArenaNET is onto a winner. Also it will effect the design of just about every MMO to come out in the coming years.
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WoW brought the genre to the masses. It revolutionzed gaming for many...
GuildWars 2 brings a solid, polished product with features (questing model, crafting) refined from many years of experience. However, it is not in any shape of form a revolution to the MMO genre. It will remain an enjoyable experience for a lot of people and its business model ensures its longevity. But it will not change the genre.
There are a few good things GW2 has brought to the table, but when Anet runs its numbers, they better not include every box sold as a user, since it would be a bit dishonest. Thats why you can't take the numbers of F2P games seriously, because they never count active users. They just count everyone that ever made an account to boost their numbers. Common practice at least in the begining, until its obvious they're lying, since the servers are empty=)
Not saying Anet will do that, but I wouldn't jump to conclusions. I'm certainly having the most fun playing a MMO since WOW.
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this is a great point.
Also, GW2 has some great concepts and features but I don't think any of it is genre defining for mmo's like wow did.
For instance, I'm not sure if i like the lvl scaling. What's the point in getting to 80 and not being able to go back to the Queensdale to obliterate a group of MOA who picked on you when you were lvl 1?
And the "overflow" system, sucks. Yes, it lets me play. But what's the point of a "home" server if I've spent more than 80% of my time in the overflow. And every zone change WILL put you in overflow. Btw, being in overflow means you can't participate in WvW (unless I've missed alternative routes since I just use "B" to queue, though the wait to get into that is another issue)
time will tell. everybody though SWTOR was the 2nd coming and look where that's at.
We know nothing about Titan, so you're a bit hopeful there. You need to realize that you're talking as someone who knows nothing about a game that you just pretty much said will destroy everything.
The way WoW is going makes me lose any interest or faith in Titan. Nah thanks. IF and WHEN it comes out
And to people saying WoW revolutioned MMO gaming, not really. WoW copied elements from other games and 'streamlined' them (or dumbed down, depending on how you look at it)
Unless for 'revolutionise' you mean, "dilute, dumb down and make ultra popular with CS kids"
Please note, because you don't like it doesn't mean it won't be genre defining. Level scaling is an excellent way to keep content relevant and challenging. I see other companies adopting it to some extent. It's not that fun to go back at max level to one shot things after a few times, it's just not. And then all content leading to max level is useless to you.
One other thing off the top of my head that other companies will probably nab from GW2 is shared resource nodes. It's an amazing idea that someone should have thought of long ago.
Sounds exactly like Rift. Polished, few technical options, some new stuff. And Rift also gets constantly tons of new content. Why should GW2 be different than Rift?
GW2 is a good game, like Rift. But I to change MMOs, it has to offer really new stuff.
Let's play Fallen Earth (blind, 300 episodes)
Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)
I didn't say I knew anything about it. I do know the game will be hyped far beyond GW2 was. The name Blizzard and it being the MMO successor to WoW is enough to guarantee billions of profit and millions of users.
actually, I believe he did say "HYPE" so any type of accurate information about titan is not necessary. And yes, the hype alone will crush the competition in the next couple of years. Blizzard knows what's on the line and the expectations set for their wow 2.0.
see this is kind of an iffy area imo because i know first hand the arrogance of the devs at Blizz and even with these changes most likely what they'll do is use it in Titan, they won't bother with WoW revamps unless they start to lose a crapton of people after their newest expansion launch rush is over and the annual passes start expiring.
I don't know. People are starting to question Blizzard's ability to be creative more and more. This is only my opinion, but I'd say if MoP flops, Blizzard will most likely lose what ever shreds of credibility they have left.
Look what they are doing...They are destroying their own IPs left and right. They are wrecking WoW, they killed Diablo. Haven't played SCII, so no persoanl comment there, but It's not like that game is all the rage in the gaming industry. I know a guy who did buy it. He played it for a little while and stopped. So At best the game might be "good" but is it awesome?
Who really has the faith in Blizzard that Titan will live up to WoW? I have all the faith that it won't.
We'll see how it does on release, but yeah, every Blizzard game launch is an "event", I have to agree with that. If it's a sci-fi MMO though, I know a lot of people who won't have any interest in it, myself included. They haven't done well so far.
I appreciate what you say and I agree with you, Blizzard seem to be a bit iffy at the moment. But the shear number of their fans is insane.. lets not forget WoW is estimated to have sold 50-80 million box copies. If you look at Xfire stats, every game in each top category is a title made by Blizzard or Activision. Even if the game is complete crap, their marketing team will do a good enough job of hyping it and selling it to millions of people. Hell.... They stated they are creating a game that they think will dominate for the next 15 years, that alone is enough to get me really interested and I'm currently very critical of Blizzard.
like they do almost with every new mmo and not only
EQ check
Pokemon check
jack black-dreamworks-kung fu panda check
rift check
aion check
etc etc
If i'm not mistaken, FFXIV already have shared resource nodes so someone already have thought of it.
Ill tell you what is see it plausible that gw2 dynamic event system will be copied and cloned for many years. It may in fact come to kill our familiar questing systems.
But will it also kill our formal grouping systems? making mmorpg's casual fests that require no interaction but everyone is entitled to a win - That is my fear.
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keep dreaming blizz fangirl we r not in 2004 anymore...the mmo market is bigger than ever not like back then.
save this message once titan is out and see how many stuff they will steal from gw2.
I appreciate what you say and I agree with you, Blizzard seem to be a bit iffy at the moment. But the shear number of their fans is insane.. lets not forget WoW is estimated to have sold 50-80 million box copies. If you look at Xfire stats, every game in each top category is a title made by Blizzard or Activision. Even if the game is complete crap, their marketing team will do a good enough job of hyping it and selling it to millions of people. Hell.... They stated they are creating a game that they think will dominate for the next 15 years, that alone is enough to get me really interested and I'm currently very critical of Blizzard.
Certainly won't argue. And Titan may very well create another upheaval in the gaming world. But that might come crashing down on them too.
If there is any consistency from their recent releases along with Titan, The backlash will be just as big.
I just hope they "get it" before it's too late. I hope they can realize it was the prioritization of creativity that got them where they are and not the prioritization of profits.
When OH when, will these companies learn that happy customers are paying customers?
save this message once titan is out and see how many stuff they will steal from gw2.
Yes. There is 570 games listed on this site. Go talk to someone on the street and they could probably list 1 - World of Warcraft, (maybe gw2)
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