Like I said I know it's possible with a pro group, i'm just saying it's probably too hard for the majority and if I could only play with other players that plays well and always listen i wouldnt mind. And even there i'm quite sure deaths happens at least 10-20 times per run
There is no excuse for more than one person to get nuked by a single attack.
I think OP was mostly concerned by this part of it that during some encounters one of you is going to go to a downed state and it often is unavoidable particularly on the trash mob.
Originally posted by Arskaaa did AC 30 min ago, very hard when 3 or more trash mob attack. Bosses where easy imo. just got 1 yellow hat.... not really good exp either. Not gonna do it again.
You do realise that you get to do the dungeon in explorable mode once you hit lvl 35.
That is supposed to be way harder with dungeon armor and better drops as a reward ?
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There is no excuse for more than one person to get nuked by a single attack.
I think OP was mostly concerned by this part of it that during some encounters one of you is going to go to a downed state and it often is unavoidable particularly on the trash mob.
Downed mechanic is part of the game though, it's meant to happen. Dunno what else to say about it other than that. You will get downed from time to time, otherwise whats the point of the downed state in first place?
A mistake a lot of people make in downed state though is to keep attacking. It's best not too, unless a mob is seriously low and you can rally from the kill. Just try using the self revival skills only then there's much less chance you'll hold or get aggro when downed.
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I did Ascalonian Catacombs today with guildies, I was level 29 when I entered (you can enter if you are below level 30) I ended up almost 31, the experience wasn't bad, almost a full level just from one run. I didn't have an elite skill up to the Ranger boss, I still found it quite enjoyable and challenging.
Major Spoilers:
There are 4 major bosses in Ascalonian Catacombs, the hardest one by far are the two lovers Vassar and Relena (the King is harder but hey he is the final boss, he should be)
The two bosses have 2 large white circles below them. If they overlap it means they are affecting each other. It's not hard to split them, just make sure your team focus fire on Vassar while a single person (preferably with defense skills) damages Relena and pulls her. While there is no "regular" aggor mechanic, if only one person damages Relena then he WILL get the aggro.
Relena hits hard with homing shock attacks, they are slow and she has a fairly slow casting speed but they are homing, you can dodge them or go behind a pillar/rock to avoid the damage. She also uses lightning storm which deals insane damage so stay away of the red circles. Finally, if she is near Vassar and low on health he will heal her up to the maximum of her hit points. That's why it is essential to focus Vassar and have someone pull Relena away.
Vassar summons adds which shouldn't cause any serious problems. His most potent attack is confusion which will kill skill1-spammers instantly as each time you use a skill, you are damaged. Wait for it to expire, use long casting time/channeled skills or ask your group to heal confusion before you kill yourself.
They do require some teamwork and a lot of spatial awareness but they aren't impossible. Good luck
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There is no excuse for more than one person to get nuked by a single attack.
I think OP was mostly concerned by this part of it that during some encounters one of you is going to go to a downed state and it often is unavoidable particularly on the trash mob.
Downed mechanic is part of the game though, it's meant to happen. Dunno what else to say about it other than that. You will get downed from time to time, otherwise whats the point of the downed state in first place?
A mistake a lot of people make in downed state though is to keep attacking. It's best not too, unless a mob is seriously low and you can rally from the kill. Just try using the self revival skills only then there's much less chance you'll hold or get aggro when downed.
I agree, and quite like the downed state.
I think I can see where OP might be coming from, if you don't have a coordinated group you end up running around reviving people constantly. I blame too many glass cannon specs for this being an issue though. bring on explorable mode tonight rarrrr!
Yea i personally went in first with full glass cannon, i may retry it with Water/Earth spec for survivability and see how it goes, if i can manage to survive more at least it will tell me that one day we will be able to do runs without always being down. Who knows it's still new
Well, it did get annoying after a while. You can talk about dodging, but if one of those lovers lightnings you, or if the male lover puts confusion and spawns 5 illusionary mages on you followed by an instant aoe, there really isn't much you can do.
Same if trash mobs put poisons or bleeds on you that last for ages while your group has little condition removal, or if the king pulls you in and then instantly casts foefire.
It's not hard because you can keep zerging all the fights, but that does get annoying sometimes. On the other hand I did appreciate finally killing the fuckers.
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AC was great, we died 150 times atleast but it was fun. Can't expect first time through to be a cakewalk. The twins were doable because the rocks made them fly away. Not that hard to keep them seperate.
I did it in the last bwe, and I'm pretty sure they haven't increased the difficulty since then. I didn't die during the two boss fight, we had maybe 2 or 3 deaths total in the whole team during that fight...so I do think you just needed to read just your tactics.
That said I agree the trash mobs were rather hard, nut I wouldn't change that. I liked it.
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I think OP was mostly concerned by this part of it that during some encounters one of you is going to go to a downed state and it often is unavoidable particularly on the trash mob.
You do realise that you get to do the dungeon in explorable mode once you hit lvl 35.
That is supposed to be way harder with dungeon armor and better drops as a reward ?
Don't shoot the messenger.....it will ruin you monitor
Downed mechanic is part of the game though, it's meant to happen. Dunno what else to say about it other than that. You will get downed from time to time, otherwise whats the point of the downed state in first place?
A mistake a lot of people make in downed state though is to keep attacking. It's best not too, unless a mob is seriously low and you can rally from the kill. Just try using the self revival skills only then there's much less chance you'll hold or get aggro when downed.
Yea but between, downed state and trying to res ally, and having a healer, i would pick the healer..
That's my oponion
I did Ascalonian Catacombs today with guildies, I was level 29 when I entered (you can enter if you are below level 30) I ended up almost 31, the experience wasn't bad, almost a full level just from one run. I didn't have an elite skill up to the Ranger boss, I still found it quite enjoyable and challenging.
Major Spoilers:
There are 4 major bosses in Ascalonian Catacombs, the hardest one by far are the two lovers Vassar and Relena (the King is harder but hey he is the final boss, he should be)
The two bosses have 2 large white circles below them. If they overlap it means they are affecting each other. It's not hard to split them, just make sure your team focus fire on Vassar while a single person (preferably with defense skills) damages Relena and pulls her. While there is no "regular" aggor mechanic, if only one person damages Relena then he WILL get the aggro.
Relena hits hard with homing shock attacks, they are slow and she has a fairly slow casting speed but they are homing, you can dodge them or go behind a pillar/rock to avoid the damage. She also uses lightning storm which deals insane damage so stay away of the red circles. Finally, if she is near Vassar and low on health he will heal her up to the maximum of her hit points. That's why it is essential to focus Vassar and have someone pull Relena away.
Vassar summons adds which shouldn't cause any serious problems. His most potent attack is confusion which will kill skill1-spammers instantly as each time you use a skill, you are damaged. Wait for it to expire, use long casting time/channeled skills or ask your group to heal confusion before you kill yourself.
They do require some teamwork and a lot of spatial awareness but they aren't impossible. Good luck
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I agree, and quite like the downed state.
I think I can see where OP might be coming from, if you don't have a coordinated group you end up running around reviving people constantly. I blame too many glass cannon specs for this being an issue though. bring on explorable mode tonight rarrrr!
Well, it did get annoying after a while. You can talk about dodging, but if one of those lovers lightnings you, or if the male lover puts confusion and spawns 5 illusionary mages on you followed by an instant aoe, there really isn't much you can do.
Same if trash mobs put poisons or bleeds on you that last for ages while your group has little condition removal, or if the king pulls you in and then instantly casts foefire.
It's not hard because you can keep zerging all the fights, but that does get annoying sometimes. On the other hand I did appreciate finally killing the fuckers.
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So you don't get that you are down leveled ... and you miss that you can DODGE their nasty moves.....
Hmmm I think the issue is with you padawan.
Honestly if you can't figure out the fight or want to figure it out we probably don't want you.
That said I agree the trash mobs were rather hard, nut I wouldn't change that. I liked it.
This is not your average MMO where you carry the same build from start to finish.
If your party loads up with knockbacks, interrupts and pulls the Mesmer and Elementalist fight is not that difficult (but by no means a cake walk)