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The Secret World sales at 200,000; Funcom focused on the future
Kuppa
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Doesn't sound great, at least they are optimistic.
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And you already posted about GW2 too?
Next time, my friend, next time, victory shall be mine. *shakes fist in anger*
Currently Playing: World of Warcraft
It was handled badly, I like the game but come on, rushing it out the door just a month ahead of GW2... that is just not smart. Had they waited and launched with a fully working game (bank, chat, quest bugs sorted) in just a few months after people got bored again with GW2 and the WoW expansion, then they could have launched a decent niche game. 200k subs ain't going to set any records BUT that is still a quarter million in subs each month. Eve Online started way smaller and has been doing very well with it.
For the matter "The Longest Journey" was a sleep hit as well. But no, they bet the company on a rush job and lost out. 200k is really bad in this light, SWTOR style bad. And Funcom doesn't have several other mega projects that can compensate for any losses.
The game really deserved better, especially considering the gushing reviews GW2 is getting for a messy launch, crashing servers, constant shutdown, login issues denying people access for hours on end in Europe and A FUCKING MISSING BANK (Is it so hard to write? AoC didn't have it, TSW didn't have it and now GW2 too).
Ah well. Will see how long TSW lasts, don't regret buying it but this is the last change I have given Funcom, they employ some decent designers (who need better coding skills) but their business management sucks.
How is 200k subs not great?
I get sick of these "it must beat wow and cause blizzard to go out of business or its a failure" types...
200k is a good starting point...now they need to add more endgame stuff and more maps and grow that 200k
This is one of the few themeparks that actually insterests me, and as soon as i get a shiney new computer (soon) this will probably be my first themepark install on that system..possibly my only.
Also, just something ive noticed, a whole lot of GW2 players seem to be very focused on this game, perhaps once they grow tired of it youll see more of a sub pick up? Not sure if its just people trying to stomp out percieved competition or whatnot...seems to be the style of posters on this site. I mean i do recognize the OP as a valient defender of GW2 and am a little surprised to see the negative thread here on a game that has nothing to do with the one he plays...eventhough i dont think his "ah ha" negative info is actually negative at all...i think 200k is a great starting point for a new niche game with a touch of sandbox in it.
~200k *sales*. Based on their projections, subs are likely 50-100k - which is not what anyone expected.
It's not great because it's under Funcom's expectations. Their predictions were about selling more than half a million copies, so selling only 200K is most likely very bad from a financial standpoint. That means this game will get less funding. That means fewer updates. That means fewer players. That means less funding. Et cetera. Having too few subs relatively to their budget is how MMOs die.
Yeah, I'm probably going to pick this up in a few months to play through the story, after I've played GW2 so much I don't feel like playing it every day. GW2's B2P model makes playing a second MMO quite easy. Still, even if people stop playing GW2 for one reason or another, there's no guarantee they'll switch to TSW.
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GW2 and MoP would have impacted sales a lot. Just need to look at the number of people who said they held of purchasing, simply because GW2's launch was so near.
A wise move would have been to pushed TSW's launch back to (late) October. Which would have drawn people, after the hype of the other two. It would also have had its raid by then.
Yeah, AoC lost more subs in the first couple of month than TSW sold boxes. Not good news for FC.
It's not 200k subs, it's 200k sales. Even with 60% retention (which would be on the high end) that's 120k subs. It's most likely a bit lower than that, but what exactly it is, we don't know, but we do know it isn't 200k (no game has a 100% retention rate, and many people have admitted on forums that they are leaving, or have left, TSO already). It's a disaster scenario for Funcom, unfortunately, in terms of what they budgeted for the game and targeted for it. It's a fun game, and its fans will always love it, but as an AAA MMO from the financial perspective it's clearly a disaster.
The pvp is a unimaginative wow style gear grind, but the pve is really good, its a good game for a pure pveer.
Sadly I have finished the "leveling" content and am no going gw2 as there is nothing to do in tsw as a pvp guild. But if I was more of a dungeon person there's plenty to do with dungeons, lairs, summonable area & region bosses.
Pvpers apart I don't think retention is the problem, its initial box sales. I don't blame blizzard and arenanet for that though, I blame funcom (for bug ridden Aoc) and bioware (for swtor frightening people off any mmo with a story element)
Gw2 gets the mmo and pvp right
Tsw gets the rpg and pve right
If some future dev could mashup both games and go for an original setting like say steampunk, would be an awesome mmo.
Servers are cheap these days, with virtual servers thier cutting costs they only use what they need. And I think I read they already fired most of the people on the game. What I see is them milking the remaining playerbase with item malls and subs. Funcom is just making a cash grab I doubt they had any idea that people would actually like the game.
200k sales? wow.... that's terrible, even Tera sold more.
The game must have around 50-100k subs... just wait a couple of months.... 30k subs?
It's a complete disaster, i wouldn't be surprised if Funcom goes bankrupt.
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I'm interested in this game, having played in a couple of the beta weekends and the 1 month celebration weekend. The reason I have not purchased the game yet is because I was really put off by the money grab by Funcom. $50 for the client, $15/month subscription, AND an item store.
Plus the bitter taste that lingers from Age of Conan...
where did you get on the Beta weekends?
What do you mean?
how far into the game did you get?
(mah english sux balls)